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How do we better our camera?

Is it just a horrible camera or is it something that can be fixed through software? I have 7 friends with evo's we will all put up $50/ea or so some im sure will pay more to the developers paypal account if we can get better picture quality on the front and back cameras.... Please we are begging ANYONE who can do it i will pay the bounty to.

You would probably have better luck spending that $50 on photography lessons or buying some decent post-processing software. Firmware isn't going to make you or your friends any better photgraphers.

I used my Evo while on vacation, and a good quality point and shoot. Both cameras took equally great pictures. Try to limit the use of the zoom, as it doesn't turn out well.
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as a former pro photographer. (not tooting my horn, just explaining)
QUALITY comes from both the photographer and the camera. More megapixels doesnt mean better QUALITY. it means larger IMAGE. you want better QUALITY get a larger SENSOR, notice the words in caps here people.
Some facts about the camera, from what i can tell by use, not spec sheets, if someone wants to provide one that'd be great, i didnt find one, but i didnt look too hard.
Its a telezoom lens, meaning it has focal length (mm #) greater (AFAICT) than that of the human eye. minimum focus distance is about 6-8" and its got a digital zoom (bleh).
Digital zoom for those that dont know will crop out part of the photo and enlarge the rest, digitally. Which is fine up to a point, after this point you end up with pixelation and bleh images.
As for taking better pictures, go read some rules on composition (the rule of thirds) and if its your cup of tea color scheme and color interaction.
Ive taken some nice photos with this camera. Just a nice rooftop with some desaturation. BAM
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i just dont see why we would have to photoshop our pictures to make them look better the brights are to bright the darks are to dark its just foolishness the only downside i have with this phone is the camera/picture quality

mikeyfg said:
i just dont see why we would have to photoshop our pictures to make them look better the brights are to bright the darks are to dark its just foolishness the only downside i have with this phone is the camera/picture quality
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who said anything about photoshop. that was in camera. if the highs/lows are too much, check your settings.
If you want i have plenty of other samples. Go back, read my previous reply, you might learn something.

nenn said:
who said anything about photoshop. that was in camera. if the highs/lows are too much, check your settings.
If you want i have plenty of other samples. Go back, read my previous reply, you might learn something.
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Is there a good online resource for learning to set white balance adjustments and those sort of things on a camera? I've always had a fascination with photography, but I admit I use P&S and automatic settings because I have no idea what those settings do...

fldash said:
Is there a good online resource for learning to set white balance adjustments and those sort of things on a camera? I've always had a fascination with photography, but I admit I use P&S and automatic settings because I have no idea what those settings do...
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the best resource to learn how to change those settings honestly is your camera manual. the next best resource to learn how they work, is to play with them.
a good book will teach you the basics. The Photographers handbook 3rd Edition is the book i used and it will teach you a ton about manual settings and basic SLR/dSLR usage. not to mention film development and i think printing technique.

I leave the iso on 100 all the time (less grain), and toggle back and forth on WB, daytime for outside pics and auto for everything else.

i have no problem with the camera i toy with the settings and take some really good photos with my camera !
not sure what people are *****ing about

Also maybe a higher class memory card

I'll have to agree with the OP. The camera on the Evo is really a let down. They got us excited with the 8 megapixel hype but it really was a let down. Same thing with the camera on the Hero. Honestly I think my Pre takes clearer pictures. It's not even in the same class as the iPhone 4 and this is coming from somebody who has bashed it since day one, but after looking at some pics and videos taken from my friend's iPhone I was literally blown away. Couldn't believe they came from a phone and not a expensive digital camera. HTC dropped the ball in that department.

Iphone has a better screen, have y'all tried cm roms, his camera app is way better than sense

im on cm6 rc2 still grainy no matter what...

My mistake his video camera app is better, there's people working on it I'm sure, I don't think its too bad myself

mikeyfg said:
im on cm6 rc2 still grainy no matter what...
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No way, lower your ISO to 100 (top config button, scroll down). Clean is day.

The camera is that bad? Really?
Here's a pic I took at Niagara Falls:
http://tinypic.com/m/be99qq/3
I'm FAR from a photographer, but some of the pics I get are at least as good as an entry level point and shoot - which is more than I expected out of it.
Some tips I have:
-make sure you are holding the phone still so the autofocus can adjust properly.
-after you hit the shutter button, make sure you hold still until it's really done taking the picture otherwise you may blur the image

fldash said:
No way, lower your ISO to 100 (top config button, scroll down). Clean is day.
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Where do you see ISO?
my top config button displays Focus Mode and Exposure.
I'm also on CM6 nightlies
Thanks

That menu scrolls down.
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Scroll down inside that setting box, there are tons of settings inside that top box...

How good is the camera?

I am thinking of getting a Defy as a free upgrade to my Hero. Reviews of camera seem mixed but general impression is that it's not brilliant, especially in low light. Interested to hear the views of people here.

You can compare the photos from defy with various other phones, including N8, iPhone4 on gsmarena site. Just click on some of the latest reviews, doesnt matter which phone, and go to the camera section of the review. There is a photo compare tool.

Thanks. That was helpful but I am more interested in the low light performance.

Neo Cortex said:
Thanks. That was helpful but I am more interested in the low light performance.
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I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of the flash. up to a metre or 2 it is very effective and doesn't wash out the photo like some others. All in all I am pleases with the camera - thats just my opinion though.

Thanks. I am almost certainly going to get one. The nagging doubt in the back of my mind is the speaker issue. Difficult to know how much of a problem it really is. People who don't have the issue (obviously) don't post to forums

None of those Cell Cameras are that cool in low light compared to a DSLR. What would really help is a camera app that writes out a dng file so that one can properly posprocess this in say Lightroom/Photoshop/Noiseware.
Just for completeness shake, the camera module seems to be a MT9PT012 ...

Higgsy said:
I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of the flash. up to a metre or 2 it is very effective and doesn't wash out the photo like some others. All in all I am pleases with the camera - thats just my opinion though.
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IMHO - flash and camera is pretty awful. Here's a shot with flash, I even gave it +20 brightness in Gimp:
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Then again, I might be spoiled by these babies:
Ironically - That was shot with my HTC Desire
I guess the Defy's camera is just below cell-phone average. It should't be your only camera, but for "Hey this looks fun!" shots it'll do fine.

I really like my defy but, honestly, the camera is not the best part.
Also the display looks not so brilliant as the desire's one.
I'm not saying they're bad, just they're not wonderful, but considering defy's price it's absolutely fair.

Well, one thing none of the others can do is H2Oing it. I just filmed in water, definitely better results than any other phone attempting the same

I'm using the Camera360 app. There is a filter called "Effect enhancement". If i you this one, the pictures look better - the ones taken in short range. Ok, they do look a bit "artifical", but for me its ok. There is a "free" version of that app for trying out...
The Defy is not the first Android i bought, but it will be the first Android, which will not be sold again. I really like this phone...
Maybe there will be some kind of camera-optimization. Until then, i will take my digi-cam for "more important" pictures to make.
Best regards
Stefan

Here is sample picture, resized, with flash and taken with camera360 app.

This was taken with a Galaxy S
This was taken with the Defy, different day so not a direct comparison. The weather was worse and it was cloudy. Hope this give you an idea of comparison though.
Defy on macro with flash
Defy with macro no flash. Shows good detail.
thanks

Photos aren't that great but they're not awful. I do find that the built in editing (kodak perfect touch) does an excellent job though. The macro mode and color reproduction aren't as good as my vibrant. But overall im satisfied.
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disturkis4u said:
Photos aren't that great but they're not awful. I do find that the built in editing (kodak perfect touch) does an excellent job though. The macro mode and color reproduction aren't as good as my vibrant. But overall im satisfied.
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yeah I agree that kodak perfect touch enhancement works well

What about Videos in 720p ?
Anyone succeed to take videos in 720p with Froyo 2.2 ?

have you tryed the kodak perfect touch option?? It's excelent! for night pics, and remember to use the "night" mode in dark places
imo, It's good++

I took pictures with it for the first time today. I did not like the quality of the pictures. My first impressions:
Pros: The LED flash is bright and puts my old BB Curve to shame. You could use it to blind a night time attacker if you could instantly turn it on with an external button.
The interface to take pictures is pretty good and easy to use.
Cons:
-Colors are muddy and off color even when shot outdoors.
-Colors with the flash are not automatically corrected and show up with the blue/white color cast of the LED flash.
-Color space compression is very noticable with banding visible under various conditions.
-Slow to take a picture because it does not focus until you click the onscreen button to take the photo.
I thought video was better on balance than the camera but it is rather poor in low light (as expected). I hope that I will learn to get better results with it after more testing but I'm glad it's not a primary reason for me to own the Defy.
-felipe

What about 720p videos?
Could someone try it?with froyo??

I found the camera pretty good in comparaison of my old phone.
But there's a hudge miss on the native camera app: you cannot change the JPG compression and by default it's very very compressed! Some have their 5Mpxl pictures that takes around 300kB (it should be 1.5MB at least!).
Maybe if someone know a way to change this settings it would be nice for improving the quality of the final picture

I really like the Vignette app for the camera, it's old school styles go rather well with the "performance" of the camear

HTC One X Camera Test Shots!

In case you wondering what kind of picture quality the HTC One X and One S were capable of spitting out, we have a few images here that show off exactly what their new ImageSense technology is all about.
HTC, who has long been known for providing one of the lesser quality cameras on the market, made a pretty big deal about their new camera tech equipping their flagships with with f/2.o aperture/28mm lenses and they even going as far as giving their devices their own dedicated processor for snapping pics, dubbed “ImageChip.” In theory, ImageChip increases image quality while providing super quick autofocus and taking equally fast snapshots on the fly. The LED even features 5 levels of brightness which should eliminate those creepy washed out photos you take in dimly lit areas.
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HTC Official: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150821613873084.501840.101063233083&type=3

It should be mentioned explicitly that those pictures are from HTC and do not come from unbiased sources. I'm still waiting on actual test shots.

Eggcake said:
It should be mentioned explicitly that those pictures are from HTC and do not come from unbiased sources. I'm still waiting on actual test shots.
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These are actual pics taken by the HTC one series, and HTC recently posted them to their official page on the facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150821613873084.501840.101063233083&type=3

yes true but we have no idea of the settings used while taking the shots, and while nice, hoping for some testers to post some more real world shots!!

yes HTC said they gave the One X/S to some local photographers in Barcelona and they took these

Looks like a bunch of post processed shots to me, the color contrasts are way over the top.
Still nice pics regardless.

What's the ppi of the pictures the One X can take?

Third pic from top
guy in the top right
hands yellow?!?! O__o
Camera technology must be in early stage lol

I wonder if the camera will suffer from blurry shots due to the very fast photo capture time? ie similar to galaxy nexus zero shutter lag = blurry photos
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bimmerboii said:
I wonder if the camera will suffer from blurry shots due to the very fast photo capture time? ie similar to galaxy nexus zero shutter lag = blurry photos
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That's a good concern. I'm going to give HTC the benefit of the doubt on this one, based on the terrific camera specs and dedicated imaging chip, but who knows...

Why in the 1st pic there is some Violet-colour on the fish?
Hope that the Audio Beast go with One X

I only hope so that are really photos from one X becouse HTC has horrible camera with pink spot on the screen. My first HTC HD2 and now Desire Z have this

Very nice, it should look like this pictures! I'm fascinated.

In the HTC's facebook page for Spain they have a lot more pictures. Can't post external links, so go check it yourself.

It's actually the HTC France page and I don't know why they would post them to that page and not their USA page...weird. While I enjoy those shots, I wanna see how the camera shoots in Auto mode. Most of those pictures were shot using a filter or edited with some sort of app. Would like to see standard shots...lets go HTC!!

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It's actually the HTC France page and I don't know why they would post them to that page and not their USA page...weird. While I enjoy those shots, I wanna see how the camera shoots in Auto mode. Most of those pictures were shot using a filter or edited with some sort of app. Would like to see standard shots...lets go HTC!!
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Maybe both man... i saw them in the spanish page. And btw the shots were taken in Barcelona during the MWC, so it makes sense.

ohh I couldn't even find their FB spain page, only France. Either way a lot of those pictures have been floating around for a while, but it was nice to see a few more. I guess we will see what happens when the tech sites get their review units

Hopefully you will be able to save photos in RAW format for editing on a pc or at least be able to adjust the jpeg compression .

What's up with the noise/compression in all these pics? Noticeable on blue skies and such.

any nighttime shots.
these daytime shots look great.

One X focusing distance

http://www.cntechnews.info/guild-wars-4slt26i-shooting-tool-for-htc-one-x-shot-evaluation/
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from the above test results, the performance of the HTC One X closest focusing distance above are not excellent. The 8.2cm’s closest focusing distance compared to the HTC One V (approximately 5.5cm). So if you want the Macro mode to take close-up, then the HTC One, X is not necessarily appropriate.
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Both the One S and the One X have the same camera specs and same imaging chip yet the macro focusing distance difference is night and day?
Not slamming on the One X though, I have seen amazing macro photos from the One X
Btw the site above has the review written in totally rotten english. I suspect it was a copy paste chinese to english from google translate. I edited a little of the sentence structure in the above quote. Not that good but it gets the point across

This is because they use difference lens and the sensor crop is probably different too.
What bothers me is that my One X is a noise machine! even at ISO100 I can see similar amount of noise at ISO12800 of Nikon D7000.

I'm very disappointed with micro shots on one x distance is unacceptable tbh
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zoobzone said:
This is because they use difference lens and the sensor crop is probably different too.
What bothers me is that my One X is a noise machine! even at ISO100 I can see similar amount of noise at ISO12800 of Nikon D7000.
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Never knew that HTC used different lens for the One X and the One S.
About the noise, yeah the photos I've seen are pretty noisy. I only wished they have thrown in the Titan II's camera sensor. That thing is capable of pushing the ISO to 1600 lol
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I'm very disappointed with micro shots on one x distance is unacceptable tbh
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Here I am hoping it can be improved with software updates..

Same, even choosing micro option in the camera doesn't improve the distance
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Oh I was actually saying different lens for the iPhone and the One X (looked at the photo above).
I have no idea why the shots for One S and One X are different.

The macro function is not perfect, but 8+ cm??
I took this one with a approximate distance of like 4,5 - 5 cm! And thats with Camera 360 on autofocus, not macro shot.
For reference, thats with my keyboard.
It aint that bad after all, and this one was shot in the office with artificial light.

Try4Ce said:
The macro function is not perfect, but 8+ cm??
I took this one with a approximate distance of like 4,5 - 5 cm! And thats with Camera 360 on autofocus, not macro shot.
It aint that bad after all, and this one was shot in the office with artificial light.
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What firmware version/ROM are you running? I couldn't get it to focus on anything lower than 8cm or so.
Interestingly, setting it to "Macro Shot" increased the focus distance to around 9 - 10cm!

Try4Ce said:
The macro function is not perfect, but 8+ cm??
I took this one with a approximate distance of like 4,5 - 5 cm! And thats with Camera 360 on autofocus, not macro shot.
It aint that bad after all, and this one was shot in the office with artificial light.
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Could it be the stock app at fault?

Try4Ce said:
The macro function is not perfect, but 8+ cm??
I took this one with a approximate distance of like 4,5 - 5 cm! And thats with Camera 360 on autofocus, not macro shot.
For reference, thats with my keyboard.
It aint that bad after all, and this one was shot in the office with artificial light.
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Yes! I experienced Camera360 having better macro-focusing compared to the stock camera app on occasions too! Initially tot it was just my imagination

its not that bad

not sure what you mean by not that bad but your second post seems pretty close. I would take a rough guess that its somewhere around 3~4cm
Stock camera or Camera 360?

just saying that the camera has good macro performance
was with stock cam

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S10+ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Live focus has improved!
https://i.imgur.com/W3dWNlz.jpg

The colours really pop out next to the S9, live focus is great on both cameras, the wide lenses are fantastic.
I'm a little disappointed with the selfie camera, it forces skin smoothing effects and shifts the colour temperature too, trying to make it "pretty" I don't need the AI to pre-edit stuff for me unless I specifically want it to, and there seems to be no way to disable that.

Why HDR+ is always grayed out ?

I can't believe how good the camera quality is coming from a note 9, although it wasn't hard to beat. All photos of my daughter were blurry and looked really bad. On the s10+ they're blur free and also the HDR function works so good, far less blown out highlights and sunny day shots look awesome.
I'm very impressed so far!

Two photos I love taken on my S10+!
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Two photos I love taken on my S10+!
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Looks awesome...

markotix said:
Two photos I love taken on my S10+!
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The dog one looks fabulous.

markotix said:
Two photos I love taken on my S10+!
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Wow those are amazing! You should send those to Samsung

Point and shoot
Ultra wide
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Oahu, Hawaii

Ultra Wide Angle

I had the S8+ and then S9+ before this and I'm really happy with the camera but in my opinion the low light shots on the S10+ actually seem a fair bit more noisy than the S9+. I'm not talking pitch black but just as the sun is starting to drop in the late afternoon.

Live focus mode.

S10+ Macro shots

daveuk87 said:
I had the S8+ and then S9+ before this and I'm really happy with the camera but in my opinion the low light shots on the S10+ actually seem a fair bit more noisy than the S9+. I'm not talking pitch black but just as the sun is starting to drop in the late afternoon.
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Exactly, even indoors shots have this "blurriness". Daytime shots under the Sun look fine.

Is there a big difference between the SD855 and Exynos 9820 camera's?

i dunno how you guys are all getting nice pictures out of the s10 + my s10+ everytime i take a picture of my dog.. the fur is blurry looks like a camera from like 5 years ago.. the selling point was the camera for me and so far it looks absolutely like crap =/

@XDA_RealLifeReview have you noticed that samsung is overexposing the front cam pictures which make it look weird and grainy but as soon as u turn to front cam video it appears much more natural and true to life.
But the back cam is pretty damn good!!
Anyway of reducing the overexposure, i have already disabled all beauty modes and i have tried that brightness slider but it keeps resetting everytime.

Beach day!
Not sure why my pics upload that way. I can't seem to fix the orientation.

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Point and shoot
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Oahu, Hawaii
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This is nice!