Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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why not wait till we get the ota and someone makes a rom put of it for us (like the same day) root is always better than stock.
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I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
Honoguma said:
I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
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Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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knipp21 said:
Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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knipp21 said:
They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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Ah, thanks for the info. If I'm unable to find a way to get back to stock to do an ota (I prefer official, I have OCD over these things), I'll definitely check it out. Thanks!
Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Thanks. I didn't have the energy to type that all out
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One more thing. From what I've read/heard the Official Dinc II ICS will be Sense 3.6, where as the One V port that is being worked on is Sense 4.0.
I don't know what the differences are, but obviously 4.0 is 0.4 better than 3.6.
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Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Yeah, I don't want to go back to stock now, but rather wait until the update is close to release and restore to stock then. I'd rather not flash a custom from, as I'm kinda OCD about "official" and stuff. I don't mind losing rooting capabilities after the ics update.
As for the rootzwiki restore to stock thread, does it include directions specificially for the Inc 2, or is returning to stock a universal method for all devices? Don't I need specific files, tools, and direction for my phone and its firmware? Can you point me in the direction on where I can find these directions and files? I'm such a noob at this, and I apologize for not knowing anything. I just don't want to stumble across a thread where I download a wrong file and flash something bad and I'm screwed over for good.
Thanks SO much for all the help everyone!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
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Andybonesstock=our current stock rom...100%..someone will do he exact same thing when ics comes out...just trust me..
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Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
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Yes, that's the thread, and it's specifically for the Inc2. AlpharevX and Revolutionary are the same things, so those instructions will work for both.
And yea, I agree about the camera. I recently flashed AndyBone Stock and the camera is definitely better. A shame because I really like stock CM7. I'm really hoping the CM9 based camera is better.
Thank you all for all the help! I'll try and do it once I sort out another problem of mine...
Restoring to stock can be risky. Who wants to brick there device right before the ics ota? But that's just my opinion. Theres a video showing you how to unroot your device by Nat3mil. Type his name in youtube and go to his channel. The video is one of his first videos so it will be on the bottom. He also has a guide showing you how to root, I used it for my phone. Someone will have an ota rooted ics Rom the first day (FYI)
PS. While your rooted you should at least try different Roms. It can be very enjoyable. I know you will like it.
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Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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watch?v=tnlnWW8tsvo <<<< this will help
@ChrisDDD: the CM9 camera isn't very good imo. It doesn't seem to focus as well as stock, and when you zoom in on your pictures taken, they are grainy.
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Hey everyone, I have S off. What Happens if I accept the OTA update from Verizon? Will the phone brick or anything or install just fine? I had root at one point but I did something with HTC Sync and I lost root and I'm thinking of just going the OTA route now.
thanks
Accepting the OTA is completely pointless when you have quality roms to flash, which in turn will be lightyears better then any OTA you recieve from any carrier, on any brand of phone. Just my 2 cents.
timmay2t said:
Accepting the OTA is completely pointless when you have quality roms to flash, which in turn will be lightyears better then any OTA you recieve from any carrier, on any brand of phone. Just my 2 cents.
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Well I first flashed CM7 and it didn't work properly. it loaded fine but I had No 3g Service. So I just got fed up with this rooting stuff. But I reflashed it and All is good. I'll stay rooted
timmay2t said:
Accepting the OTA is completely pointless when you have quality roms to flash, which in turn will be lightyears better then any OTA you recieve from any carrier, on any brand of phone. Just my 2 cents.
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Good point but I was also wondering the same thing as the op. Everyone knows roms are better but no Rom is without any bugs. I'm new to this phone and not used to sense UI that's why I'd like a good answer to the op's question. I'm currently on 2.2.1 and want to root and if possible do the ota. Then I can remove the bloat apps, get used to the phone some more, and then move on to some roms.
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Go into the Android development thread, flash rmks gingersense ROM, it is completely identical to 2.3.3 but with some bloated removed, but there is a link there to put those apps back if u want and u will have COMPLETELY stock. Then there is a post later in that thread by rmk that gives u a patch to update to 2.3.4, again, IDENTICAL to stock, so why not do that, works great, what I did, and don't even have to worry bout this question u guys seem to always ponder? This will always b the case, there will b a way to flash to latest version like this, especially thanks to rmk, who is awesome, now, go forth, and flash my children! Wait, that sounded so wrong...
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Go into the Android development thread, flash rmks gingersense ROM, it is completely identical to 2.3.3 but with some bloated removed, but there is a link there to put those apps back if u want and u will have COMPLETELY stock. Then there is a post later in that thread by rmk that gives u a patch to update to 2.3.4, again, IDENTICAL to stock, so why not do that, works great, what I did, and don't even have to worry bout this question u guys seem to always ponder? This will always b the case, there will b a way to flash to latest version like this, especially thanks to rmk, who is awesome, now, go forth, and flash my children! Wait, that sounded so wrong...
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thanks, gonna go for it!! I've only been holding back because this phone is not as easy to return to stock, on my old phone i could just use odin to go back to out of the box stock(in case I had to send the phone to vzn)
2.3 is pushing this week, before accepting the update do I need to unroot my phone? It's on Unrevoked at the moment. Or can I push the update and it will magically unroot my phone? If that happens will unrevoked work again or will it be stuck in no root land till someone finds a root for 2.3?
Ugh! There are probably 20 threads that cover this but since there will probably be 20 more... If you want to stay rooted don't update until a Dev has had a chance to release a rooted stock version. Unrevoked will most likely (99%) not work to get you root.
Your best bet is to just be patient and keep an eye on the development section. Someone will definately release a rooted version, relatively quickly. I think the leaked gingerbread was rooted the same day it got leaked.
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Or you could just go to a custom ROM in the meantime... they're so much better than stock anyway
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2.3 is pushing this week, before accepting the update do I need to unroot my phone? It's on Unrevoked at the moment. Or can I push the update and it will magically unroot my phone? If that happens will unrevoked work again or will it be stuck in no root land till someone finds a root for 2.3?
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It will not magically unroot your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16688892&postcount=72
So then I do need to unroot my phone do accept the update?
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So then I do need to unroot my phone do accept the update?
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Yes. That's exactly what thread after thread is saying. Search function bro... Really. Frankly, I think doing such a thing would be pretty stupid, but that's your call. And I'll tell you exactly why it would be stupid......
In a few short days you're gonna see a flood of ADB rooted ROMs in the dev section that will unquestionably be better than the bone stock job you'll be totally stuck with. I can tell you from experience that just because its an OTA doesn't mean its better. And if you're that crazy for the bleeding edge of Android, the version of gingerbread in the OTA will not be as current as CM7. I don't personally like gingerbread much. It hasn't cracked up to be the magic elixir people make it out to be, just like so many new devices that everyone SWEARS will be the next digital Mecha.... Incidentally, I'm typing this on the HTC Mecha, which was swooned over for month, then hated on for all the same weaknesses the dInc has.
Friend to friend here... I wouldn't tell anyone to do what you're think of doing.
I'm being steered in the same direction. On 2.2 rooted with unrevoked. Unrooting is undeniably more complicated than rooting IMO and, as stated, the ROMs that are going to be builted off the 2.3 OTA will be better.
I'm just never flashed a ROM before so we'll see how that goes haha
You can unroot, go that route if you'd like. But there's already 2 rooted, ready to go zips of the OTA in the Development forum you could just download and flash.
I guess what I don't understand is, people seem to think that receiving the OTA you get MORE than just flashing the OTA zip that's been rooted/ready for flashing. IT'S THE SAME THING!
In order to unroot, reload the RUU or PB31IMG.zip file to get to stock, if something goes wrong, you've got a nice brick on your hands. You'll lose root when you unroot and accept the OTA, since Unrevoked's exploit is 99% more than likely patched.
You can do all of that work just to accept the OTA, but remember, you'll need to wait for root. Trust me, any day now you'll be seeing the threads of "I accepted the OTA and Unrevoked doesn't work!"...please don't be in that group of people.
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I'm being steered in the same direction. On 2.2 rooted with unrevoked. Unrooting is undeniably more complicated than rooting IMO and, as stated, the ROMs that are going to be builted off the 2.3 OTA will be better.
I'm just never flashed a ROM before so we'll see how that goes haha
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Dude, use Doug Piston's ROM Flashing Tutorial, here. It's easy.
After the screen shot showing Wiping Cache, also do:
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /data, format /boot
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then resume at the Install zip from SD Card screen shot...
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Yes. That's exactly what thread after thread is saying. Search function bro... Really. Frankly, I think doing such a thing would be pretty stupid, but that's your call. And I'll tell you exactly why it would be stupid......
In a few short days you're gonna see a flood of ADB rooted ROMs in the dev section that will unquestionably be better than the bone stock job you'll be totally stuck with. I can tell you from experience that just because its an OTA doesn't mean its better. And if you're that crazy for the bleeding edge of Android, the version of gingerbread in the OTA will not be as current as CM7. I don't personally like gingerbread much. It hasn't cracked up to be the magic elixir people make it out to be, just like so many new devices that everyone SWEARS will be the next digital Mecha.... Incidentally, I'm typing this on the HTC Mecha, which was swooned over for month, then hated on for all the same weaknesses the dInc has.
Friend to friend here... I wouldn't tell anyone to do what you're think of doing.
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This is wrong..you can stay s-off but you need stock recovery and stock 2.2 rom
/droid3
beard0 said:
This is wrong..you can stay s-off but you need stock recovery and stock 2.2 rom
/droid3
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I appreciate the correction.
I would definitely not root & go to JoelZ's thread & download the rooted version of the 2.3.4 update!!!
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Dude, use Doug Piston's ROM Flashing Tutorial, here. It's easy.
After the screen shot showing Wiping Cache, also do:
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /data, format /boot
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then resume at the Install zip from SD Card screen shot...
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ALRIGHT HERE GOES NUTHIN!
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SUCCESS! Joel's 2.3.4 release flashed! Wow, that really was easy! I got scared when it hung on backup during the generation of the MD5 sum though, took all of like 10 min..... what does that mean anyway?
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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honestly, why did you do that??i just looked at androidcentral.com and the update doesnt fix anything special..anyway im sure a dev will have a rooted version soon..and just like he said, did it change the hboot?
You should always assume that an OTA update will break root (since it will not have Superuser installed) and that it may NAND Lock your phone (take away your S-OFF). If you want the update just wait around for a short time and a rooted version will appear here.
Well, try using an app that requires root permissions to see if it broke it, like titanium backup.
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
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Hboot version is 2.16.0001
It was not clear from your OP if you had already rooted and then took the OTA or you wanted to know if you could still root your phone.
That is the same Hboot as the previous OTA so you may still be able to root with Revolution if you have not already. If you did already root your phone you need to check to see if you still have S-OFF and a recovery that you can use to get CM loaded.
Boot to recovery (hold Vol - and Power button)
What version of HBoot is it?
Cardinal Rule:
Once rooted, never bother accessing the OTA section of your Sense ROM.
Sorry, I have never rooted and am a complete rooting noob.
[my reason is that I've had blown speakers, cracked screens, etc. and have had 5 different replacements from Sprint and don't want to void my warranty unless I can get it back to make it appear as though I've never rooted]
I did find that this Hboot version still seems to be supported with the new root methods. I have one real quick question, and I have a hard time sifting through the posts, threads, forums.
I want to root, flash a new ROM and want to be able to recover my stock Sprint ROM in case I need to send my phone back for the aforementioned issues. If I follow the root procedures and install Amon_RA's backup and backup the current ROM, I should be able to flash that ROM and get back to S-ON? or would I have to go through some procedure to get back S-ON?
Again, my apologies for posting what's been posted probably 1000 times, you can just link me to a thread....I haven't been successful in my searches for a definitive answer. And the "noob guide" sticky on the forum hasn't been updated to the new root methods, so I'm not sure what will brick me and what is usable.
yes, I will never OTA update after rooting, but in case I want to get back to a stock ROM from Sprint for warranty trade in purposes.
follow up noob question to rooting, all the proper radios and account information will be imported into my phone after flashing a new ROM? Or will I have to know specific radios, PRLs or basebands after I root. It's my primary device so I can't afford to be without.
Damn. Just rooted a few days ago under the assumption Sprint has moved on as far as supporting the EVO.... Dig root but I hope this doesn't create a problem when the update is forced on me.
You can always turn off auto update, and you can also hit cancel if the auto updater pops up. You do not Have to ever update your phone if you dont want to
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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*noob alert* Those normally appear in the Development forum, correct? Is there a particular title I should be looking for?
No offense, and I really mean that, but you should not root your phone if you are that worried about the consequences. If you aren't willing to accept that Sprint may be able to tell you rooted you phone then deny you warranty repairs just stick with what you have. Once you get past that point then its time to have some rooting fun.
Seriously though, everyone is going to tell you how great root is, but I bet 60% or better never actually do anything with their phone that would have required root to being with!
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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Using older root methods (pre-Gingerbread), yes. But the new root method for GB/Hboot 2.16 installs a new, non-official hboot - 6.16. No one has been able to get the s-on tool to work or downgrade to a different hboot. You can flash an RUU that will take you back to stock, but you cannot gain s-on. Whether or not Sprint cares about the s-off 6.16 hboot, I don't know. Sprint is supposed to service rooted phones as long as the firmware is stock. If it's not, they'll RUU for you. You may have problems or you may not, kind of depends on who you deal with.
The revolutionary root method is still in a beta phase, what I believe they call a "developer preview" or something. Perhaps once it's released officially there will be an easy way to gain s-on.
I think that if you are worried about rooting or don't know why you would be rooting ("it seems cool" is not a legitimate reason) then you shouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
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my reason is that I'm sick of Sprint/HTC's flaky software that breaks things like wireless-n, my ability to stream music/contacts with my car stereo over bluetooth, icons constantly disappearing after reboot, Sense rebooting itself, etc. I don't care about its "cool" factor, I want control - its android, right? otherwise I'd just go get an ibone.
Thank you for that update on the 6.16 Hboot change and S-off/on status, its very helpful. Any thoughts on my question of new ROMs will know how to contact the Sprint network with all my information properly, or do I have to do something fancy to that.
I don't know...last month I couldn't root 2 or 3 weeks ago root pops up for GB 2.3.3 I rooted my phone and to tell you the truth I ain't gonna lie I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting...but I think once you try it yo ass ain't never goin back lol cuz I've been on CM7 this whole time and I'm blown away I'm gonna try out vaelpak RC2 tonight when I get home there's just so much you can do...but that's jus my opinion
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch, evO²·³·³
does anyone know what sense version this update is or is it still the crappy sense 1.0
I need some help and am sure that some of you have the answers, because I don't fully understand all of this and what my options are, or what the best solution is. I have looked through the different threads and found bits and pieces of some of this, but nothing that specifically answered my situation. I will try to put out all of the pertinent info, but please let me know your thoughts, etc...
I have an HTC Evo. I have root access, from unrevoked 2. Here are the current settings/stats from my phone setup/start screen (or whatever it's called when you hold down the volume button and put the battery in):
Android Version 2.2
Baseband Version 2.15.00.09.01
Software Number 3.29.651.5
Model Number PC36100
I don't care anything about custom roms, etc. The only thing that I did the unrevoked for is to do the wireless tethering and being able to freeze some of the sprint apps. The Wireless tethering is the main need for the root, though. I definitely don't want to lose that.
I haven't done any OTA updates from Sprint since I ran unrevoked. I read at the time not to do them because I might lose root access. It has been over a year since I have updated Android, and my phone is doing some odd things, and acting a litte wierd in some instances. I would also like to upgrade to the newest Android release, and probably to Ice Cream Sandwich, when it comes out. However, I know that it usually takes a little bit after these releases come out for the developers to gain root. I feel like there are probably a good bit of updates and new features that Android has added in the last year that I am missing out on.
So, should I just stick with what I have, so as not to lose root? Or, should I just try the latest OTA update and see what happens? Also, when they release ICS to the Evo, if I run that update, will I lose root? I see that unrevoked has updated to version 3, and that there's also a unrevoked forever. Which of these is what I would need?
Lastly, if I am going to run these updates, do I need to 'un-root' first?
Thank you all so much for any suggestions, helpful hints, etc. I'd rather ask on the front end instead of having to post an 'emergency' thread.
Thanks!
All you need to do is go in the developers section here and download yourself a stock rooted 2.3 rom and flash it. No need to lose root or reroot. Just make sure you wipe everything except the sdcard.
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Ok, thanks. I'll check that out. Again, as a dummy on some of this stuff, is it worth it time-wise to go ahead and do this now, or should I wait until the devs come up with an Evo release of ICS? Just wondering what your opinions on that would be.
Thanks again!
If you have flashed unrevoked forever then doing any ota updates should not affect your s-off status but doing ota updates are not recommended on rooted phones.
Support TrevE!!
Sprint is not going to release an Ice Cream Sandwich update for the EVO 4g.
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I know that they're not going to release it for the Evo, but I've seen it mentioned several places that the developers here will probably create a version for the Evo. I'm just wondering if it makes sense to do the upgrade to 2.3 now, since I'm still on 2.2, or if you all would suggest just waiting to do it until there's a version of ICS to update to...
(I know that some of you are thinking that the update is super simple and easy, but I'm not as familiar with it, so doing something like this takes me forever so that I don't screw up something)
So.....thoughts!???
Thanks!
Yes flash a stock rooted Ginger bread rom and you will not be disappointed. It will be a while for the ics roms to be close to bug free. Flash away and have a nice day.
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THREESTRIPEBRAND said:
Yes flash a stock rooted Ginger bread rom and you will not be disappointed. It will be a while for the ics roms to be close to bug free. Flash away and have a nice day.
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Exactly what he said and there are stock gingerbread roms here on xda that you can flash and that will give you a rooted stock gingerbread rom. It will be just like you get a brand new evo out of the box except it has root access. Flasher the stock rom just like you would any other rom through recovery. It's very easy and good luck man.
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You guys are awesome!
I don't have any idea how to flash a ROM, but I've seen a couple of instructions and FAQs on here that I can follow to learn about that.
One thing that I haven't been able to really get a feel for yet is, how do I know what I'm looking for on a ROM? You both mention a stock, rooted gingerbread ROMs, is there a specific one that you're thinking of? I see different names (swagged out, Sns gingerbread, sense, etc) but don't know what these names mean. How can I tell which one is just basic, but will allow me to do two things, 1-wireless tether and 2- delete the extra crap that sprint puts on the phone????
I'm assuming that I can find these just by looking here in the "Evo 4G Android Development" forum? And hope to also be able to find the steps on how to flash a rom there also...
Thanks again!
If I were u ide check out the classic... By Mr Tommy tomato
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I Found the classic rom and fresh Evo rom...
One thing that I was just thinking about... How do I recover all of the apps that I have downloaded? I have the full version of titanium backup, and just ran the full backup of apps and data. Do I recover them from that? Or Is there a better or different way?
umtigers said:
I Found the classic rom and fresh Evo rom...
One thing that I was just thinking about... How do I recover all of the apps that I have downloaded? I have the full version of titanium backup, and just ran the full backup of apps and data. Do I recover them from that? Or Is there a better or different way?
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Yes restoring apps with TB is fine.
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I read an article earlier today about Sprint putting out ICS at the end of this month (June 30).
On my other phone, it was a huge hassle going back to stock for the ICS update.
So should I just stay with TouchWiz till the end of the month?
So far every prediction and announcement of official ics for this phone has been wrong. If you need root, then go with a rock solid rooted EL29 rom. If you accept an ota of ics, you can't root it. You will have to wait for a pre-rooted build to be released here and flash again. Using sfhub's one click Odin releases, it isn't difficult at all. Just don't be lazy and choose the nodata version. You will most likely have problems eventually if you don't do the full flash version. So many people are wanting help for a multitude of reasons. It usually boils down to do the full version flash and start from the beginning. Also, if you have it, don't be doing titanium backups of gingerbread installs then restoring them in ice cream sandwich, you'll be opening another can of worms with that.
Are you tunning a custom rom or are you rooted now? How difficult was it to root? Have you checked sfhubs thread? Just asking you some questions because honestly rooting and unrooting is probably all of 5 minutes. Also when ICS comes out do you honestly think it won be rooted in minutes. So why stress yourself or start a thread over something you really don't need to worry about... Just Sayin
Stay with stock root with sfhubs method either way its not that big a deal when ICS comes out
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oscarthegrouch said:
So far every prediction and announcement of official ics for this phone has been wrong. If you need root, then go with a rock solid rooted EL29 rom. If you accept an ota of ics, you can't root it. You will have to wait for a pre-rooted build to be released here and flash again. Using sfhub's one click Odin releases, it isn't difficult at all. Just don't be lazy and choose the nodata version. You will most likely have problems eventually if you don't do the full flash version. So many people are wanting help for a multitude of reasons. It usually boils down to do the full version flash and start from the beginning. Also, if you have it, don't be doing titanium backups of gingerbread installs then restoring them in ice cream sandwich, you'll be opening another can of worms with that.
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I appreciate you input and tips!
playya said:
Are you tunning a custom rom or are you rooted now? How difficult was it to root? Have you checked sfhubs thread? Just asking you some questions because honestly rooting and unrooting is probably all of 5 minutes. Also when ICS comes out do you honestly think it won be rooted in minutes. So why stress yourself or start a thread over something you really don't need to worry about... Just Sahib's
Stay with stock root with sfhubs method either way its not that big a deal when ICS comes out
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I have an HTC Dinc2 ATM. I know how to root it, and try out roms and all that.
But on Monday, when UPS delivers my E4GT, I want to be able to jump right into rooting it and putting a good rom on it so I can spend least time learning how to flash a rom onto it and least time running into mistakes and not be a tad bit familiar with what I'm doing and mess up something.
You're reply is sorta idk... I'm not stressing over anything. I want to unbox it, do everything I need to it, and be able to start using it right away. I just want it to be stable and have ics -even if its stock ota or a custom rom.
Edit: Usually I don't start threads because they end up not answered or someone replies not being helpful but being harsh. I'm just trying to have everything situated right.
AndroidRocksSocks said:
I appreciate you input and tips!
I have an HTC Dinc2 ATM. I know how to root it, and try out roms and all that.
But on Monday, when UPS delivers my E4GT, I want to be able to jump right into rooting it and putting a good rom on it so I can spend least time learning how to flash a rom onto it and least time running into mistakes and not be a tad bit familiar with what I'm doing and mess up something.
You're reply is sorta idk... I'm not stressing over anything. I want to unbox it, do everything I need to it, and be able to start using it right away. I just want it to be stable and have ics -even if its stock ota or a custom rom.
Edit: Usually I don't start threads because they end up not answered or someone replies not being helpful but being harsh. I'm just trying to have everything situated right.
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OK then just Odin one of the newest stock ICS roms out there. Agat has some nice ones as well if this is what you are looking for but stable for one may not be for others. I run cm9 with lil to no issues but I see other guys complain. Hey inbox Odin the latest ICS and enjoy
Edit: Sorry if my previous answer was confusing but sometimes people ask questions that have no definitive answers.
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