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Hi first time poster, please dont flame me if this has been said else where, but most threads have multiple pages with people asking multiple questions and its slightly confusing.
So what i want to ask is....
Im waiting for Android 2.2 to be officially released from HTC OTA (Rumours saying within next 2 weeks) However, im not to confident in HTC as nothing official has been said and i wouldnt be suprised if it got delayed. Now my thinking is, ill root my phone, and install a 2.2 ROM on it, but what i was wondering is, when the official release comes out, could i restore my Desire back to the Stock ROM (Unbranded Desire btw) so i can recieve the update? (I Prefer having everything working over slight improvements in certain aspects + have SENSE although i hate the interfrace. just like the widgets)
Would this be possible?
Thanks for the help.
You won't be able to receive it OTA, but it would fairly quickly make it's way here and you can just flash it from here as you would any other rom.
Edit: Just realisesd you will flash back to stock. If you go back to stock rom then I think you will get it OTA as normal. It's only custom roms that don't get it this way.
So the fact that the phone would be rooted shouldnt cause an issue?
Sorry if these are nooby questions, just scared of breaking my desire haha! cant afford a new
also sorry i think i have seen this else where, just struggling to find it again, but there is an unbranded stock rom available correct? or could i backup my current 1?
wish this was as simple as my g1
There is definitely at least 1 rooted stock rom about, and loads of official stock roms available. I can't remember where I seen the rooted stock one. It's in here somewhere! You can't backup your current rom without root unfortunately.
At the very worst, if you couldn't get the update OTA then you would get it here anyway so there is no problem with that.
Actual rooting will not cause any issues at all. It's fairly safe now.
Sweet! Thanks for the help! Your very kind for not flaming me haha!
Btw nothing against the developers in here! your putting HTC and Google to shame in some places, i just like EVERYTHING working on my phone, dont like broken cameras etc, hence me liking stock
Thanks again!
Lol the devs here are brilliant.
Before you totally decide to go stock, you could try one of pays sense roms. They have everything working perfect, and infact are better than stock for speed, looks, and battery life. There is nothing not working in his roms!
It's really only froyo roms that have bugs so you could just steer clear from them for now.
oh dont get me wrong, im gonna try the froyo, and other roms, i just want to try them out until i settle with 1 for now, i got no problem with them for the short term, just the 1 i stick with i want to work, and to be honest, (going on my g1 root experiance) i never found a rom that worked 100%, but maybe im just being a noob and didnt find any.
Cheers for the advise though, ill have a look for some pays roms now.
Thanks again for help
Hey everyone, I have S off. What Happens if I accept the OTA update from Verizon? Will the phone brick or anything or install just fine? I had root at one point but I did something with HTC Sync and I lost root and I'm thinking of just going the OTA route now.
thanks
Accepting the OTA is completely pointless when you have quality roms to flash, which in turn will be lightyears better then any OTA you recieve from any carrier, on any brand of phone. Just my 2 cents.
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Accepting the OTA is completely pointless when you have quality roms to flash, which in turn will be lightyears better then any OTA you recieve from any carrier, on any brand of phone. Just my 2 cents.
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Well I first flashed CM7 and it didn't work properly. it loaded fine but I had No 3g Service. So I just got fed up with this rooting stuff. But I reflashed it and All is good. I'll stay rooted
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Accepting the OTA is completely pointless when you have quality roms to flash, which in turn will be lightyears better then any OTA you recieve from any carrier, on any brand of phone. Just my 2 cents.
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Good point but I was also wondering the same thing as the op. Everyone knows roms are better but no Rom is without any bugs. I'm new to this phone and not used to sense UI that's why I'd like a good answer to the op's question. I'm currently on 2.2.1 and want to root and if possible do the ota. Then I can remove the bloat apps, get used to the phone some more, and then move on to some roms.
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Go into the Android development thread, flash rmks gingersense ROM, it is completely identical to 2.3.3 but with some bloated removed, but there is a link there to put those apps back if u want and u will have COMPLETELY stock. Then there is a post later in that thread by rmk that gives u a patch to update to 2.3.4, again, IDENTICAL to stock, so why not do that, works great, what I did, and don't even have to worry bout this question u guys seem to always ponder? This will always b the case, there will b a way to flash to latest version like this, especially thanks to rmk, who is awesome, now, go forth, and flash my children! Wait, that sounded so wrong...
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Go into the Android development thread, flash rmks gingersense ROM, it is completely identical to 2.3.3 but with some bloated removed, but there is a link there to put those apps back if u want and u will have COMPLETELY stock. Then there is a post later in that thread by rmk that gives u a patch to update to 2.3.4, again, IDENTICAL to stock, so why not do that, works great, what I did, and don't even have to worry bout this question u guys seem to always ponder? This will always b the case, there will b a way to flash to latest version like this, especially thanks to rmk, who is awesome, now, go forth, and flash my children! Wait, that sounded so wrong...
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thanks, gonna go for it!! I've only been holding back because this phone is not as easy to return to stock, on my old phone i could just use odin to go back to out of the box stock(in case I had to send the phone to vzn)
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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why not wait till we get the ota and someone makes a rom put of it for us (like the same day) root is always better than stock.
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I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
Honoguma said:
I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
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Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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knipp21 said:
Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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knipp21 said:
They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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Ah, thanks for the info. If I'm unable to find a way to get back to stock to do an ota (I prefer official, I have OCD over these things), I'll definitely check it out. Thanks!
Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Thanks. I didn't have the energy to type that all out
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One more thing. From what I've read/heard the Official Dinc II ICS will be Sense 3.6, where as the One V port that is being worked on is Sense 4.0.
I don't know what the differences are, but obviously 4.0 is 0.4 better than 3.6.
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Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Yeah, I don't want to go back to stock now, but rather wait until the update is close to release and restore to stock then. I'd rather not flash a custom from, as I'm kinda OCD about "official" and stuff. I don't mind losing rooting capabilities after the ics update.
As for the rootzwiki restore to stock thread, does it include directions specificially for the Inc 2, or is returning to stock a universal method for all devices? Don't I need specific files, tools, and direction for my phone and its firmware? Can you point me in the direction on where I can find these directions and files? I'm such a noob at this, and I apologize for not knowing anything. I just don't want to stumble across a thread where I download a wrong file and flash something bad and I'm screwed over for good.
Thanks SO much for all the help everyone!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
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Andybonesstock=our current stock rom...100%..someone will do he exact same thing when ics comes out...just trust me..
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Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
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Yes, that's the thread, and it's specifically for the Inc2. AlpharevX and Revolutionary are the same things, so those instructions will work for both.
And yea, I agree about the camera. I recently flashed AndyBone Stock and the camera is definitely better. A shame because I really like stock CM7. I'm really hoping the CM9 based camera is better.
Thank you all for all the help! I'll try and do it once I sort out another problem of mine...
Restoring to stock can be risky. Who wants to brick there device right before the ics ota? But that's just my opinion. Theres a video showing you how to unroot your device by Nat3mil. Type his name in youtube and go to his channel. The video is one of his first videos so it will be on the bottom. He also has a guide showing you how to root, I used it for my phone. Someone will have an ota rooted ics Rom the first day (FYI)
PS. While your rooted you should at least try different Roms. It can be very enjoyable. I know you will like it.
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Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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watch?v=tnlnWW8tsvo <<<< this will help
@ChrisDDD: the CM9 camera isn't very good imo. It doesn't seem to focus as well as stock, and when you zoom in on your pictures taken, they are grainy.
I just got my Epic4G Touch, about a week ago, moved over from the NS4G. My question is, should I go ahead and root/flash a ROM now, or should I wait until after the official ICS release for this phone?
Wondering if there will be more stable ROMs/etc. after the fact?
Well you ran it stock for a week. I say root and flash, I don't see any downside flashing any roms besides ICS bricking phones it's why I just stick to gingerbread for now. I rooted and flashed a custom ROM after after running it stock for 2 hours and couldn't be happier.
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So let me see here your question is do I spend 10 minutes and try ICs or spend another 10 minutes flashing it back.... This thread will take longer to read and type up than you using sfhubs odin tars and trying it out for yourself....
Also complete stock --- really who does that anymore
First thing I did when I got my phone phone was rooted it and flashed a ROM, I spent about 10 minutes with the phone full stock. That was back in November.
I say flash. The official update probably won't be out for a couple more weeks
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First thing I did when I got my phone phone was rooted it and flashed a ROM, I spent about 10 minutes with the phone full stock. That was back in November.
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Wow you lasted 10 minutes.... I felt like I was shooting a Klondike bar commercial... Lets see if he can last 1 minute with his phone not rooted..... LOL
Root! root! root!
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Well you ran it stock for a week. I say root and flash, I don't see any downside flashing any roms besides ICS bricking phones it's why I just stick to gingerbread for now. I rooted and flashed a custom ROM after after running it stock for 2 hours and couldn't be happier.
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ICS isn't bricking phones, trying to use ICS recovery is. There's a difference.
Also, people are bricking their phones because they refuse to read all instructions and follow them to the letter.
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ICS isn't bricking phones, trying to use ICS recovery is. There's a difference.
Also, people are bricking their phones because they refuse to read all instructions and follow them to the letter.
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Ya sorry, could've worded it better, was too lazy to proof read. Well flashing roms in ICS just seems risky, even if it's just 5 percent. I use to go crazy flashing the old galaxy s and never worried about brick, I even flash things recklessly because there was Odin. I slowed down and got paranoid when Odin can't even fix the bricks that's been happening here.
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I just got my Epic4G Touch, about a week ago, moved over from the NS4G. My question is, should I go ahead and root/flash a ROM now, or should I wait until after the official ICS release for this phone?
Wondering if there will be more stable ROMs/etc. after the fact?
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I'd say root, flashing could wait until after the source and OTA is out, unless you want to try some GB ROMs.
Rooting/Flashing GB rom now. That's what was concerning me with the ICS, was seeing the bricking issues some were having. Hadn't really read into it much. I've been flashing and using XDA since my first windows phone HTC Tilt on AT&T. I'm not new to flashing or anything, just came off the NS4G as well.
For some reason I always get weary of rooting the device, and flashing a rom the first time. After that I'm a ROM hopper, but that first time always seems a little daunting.
Thanks for the input everyone.
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Rooting/Flashing GB rom now. That's what was concerning me with the ICS, was seeing the bricking issues some were having. Hadn't really read into it much. I've been flashing and using XDA since my first windows phone HTC Tilt on AT&T. I'm not new to flashing or anything, just came off the NS4G as well.
For some reason I always get weary of rooting the device, and flashing a rom the first time. After that I'm a ROM hopper, but that first time always seems a little daunting.
Thanks for the input everyone.
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Listen to esoteric. If you want to flash an ics rom, do it the right way. I nandroid between ics roms on a daily basis, but that is because i read and do it the right way. Check out reactive disorders thread, i probably flashed his test rom 20 times yesterday alone....and anothe 20 today. My phone works just fine. Just stay away from flashing the international version and everything will be just fine. I say give it a go.
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****Seems like we're getting alot of new users thanks to the price cut on our phones, and while we have an amazing amount of information available it seems that it's overwhelming for new users and they end up posting questions that are answered already in stickies, etc, just because they don't know where to start, hopefully this guide will cut down on that.... please feel free to suggest things that should be added or any changes I should make to make this better and more complete, or if you think this is redundant and a waste of time feel free to flame me, you won't hurt my feelings, just trying to give back to the community, make things easier for new users, and cut down on "how do i..." posts that have been answered elsewhere...thanks!****
Welcome To the Epic 4g Touch
As a new user its probably overwhelming trying to figure out where to start since this is a relativity mature device, most of the existing users are well versed in the more basic tasks, and we have SO MUCH info all over the boards here, this guide should help you get started....
1. The 1st thing you'll probably want to do is root. If you're coming from an HTC device or are new to android you're probably not familiar with Odin. Odin is Samsung's in house recovery tool that leaked a few years ago. It lets you flash rom's via usb connected to a PC. Odin is PC only, if you use linux or mac the easiest way to get root would be to use a PC, however there is a cross platform tool, Heimdall, that allows you to flash on OSX/Linux... Going forward in this guide though I will only be referring to using 1-click Odin's on PC's as i feel this is what the vast majority of people will be using...
- You'll want to first go to Sfhub's stickied thread in the dev section, Sfhub has been kind enough to make rooted 1 click Odin images for us, so especially if you're coming from a HTC device you'll be amazed how easy these phones are to root...(found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728)
- As of today (07/09/12) if you buy an E4GT it'll come with the EL29 gingerbread system, this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101 ) is the appropriate Odin 1 Click for you to get root, again, thanks Sfhub
7/12/12 edit: Sprint is pushing the OTA to ICS as of today. It is build FF18, the rooted odin one click can be found in yet another thread by Sfhub here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229)... as the emmc bug seems not to have been addressed in the kernel I will leave the rest of the post unaltered for now until most roms have been updated to a kernel built from source with the code that triggers the bug removed. Until then, as stated later, some ICS recoveries are considered safe (Agats), but it never hurts to take a few extra minuets when flashing to totally avoid the risk of bricking
7/26/12 EDIT:
ICS flashing is now safe AS LONG AS YOU ARE ON ONE OF AGAT63 OR chris41g's SAFE KERNELS, these are built from source and have the offending mmc_cap_erase code removed/disabled. The kernel repo is found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295) you can mobileODIN the tar's or flash the zip's via cwm
- You can refer to Garwynn's Official ICS OTA update thread for more information on the update (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765953)
-After running the 1 Click Odin for your device you'll want to go back to the main thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728 ) and download the auto root tool and choose option C to install Clockworkmod recovery- a custom recovery that will allow you to flash roms and make nandroid backups- on your phone. Dev VeNuM has posted a very detailed guide explaining what clockworkmod is and how to use it, which is stickied and can be found here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587607 )
- I'm not providing detailed instructions as those are included in the linked to threads... should you find the directions difficult to follow user qbking77 has made really great informative videos, linked to in the directions, detailing the aforementioned processes that should help clarify things further for you.
2. You now have a rooted gingerbread system with custom recovery. You can safely flash any Gingerbread roms from recovery, following the directions posted with the rom of your choice. If you want to flash ICS roms however, you have some more reading to do, as this phone can be bricked if you do not follow directions....
- The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!! (7/26/12 edit: OLD, you can now flash from ICS as long as you are on a safe kernel, safe kernels can be found in the repo linked to earlier this post)
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28609341&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!! (7/26/12 edit: also now outdated, as long as you are on a safe kernel you can just flash via cwm in ICS, no need to ODIN back to EL26)
3. Additional Information...
-modems, there are a variety of modems available for the E4GT, and all can be found in the modem repo ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764210 ). Every phone responds differently to different modems and you may want to try some new ones if you are dissatisfied with the current one you have.
- Jelly Bean... Please do not post asking "Is Jelly Bean available for this phone!1!!!!!" / "when i get jellybean!!!1!!11!!"... we have some awesome dev's for this and there are quite a few working on it currently. It is currently booting with some issues, but should be ready to use as a daily in the coming weeks. DO NOT post asking where to find current builds, dev's will post in the development section once they feel its ready for release, same goes for CM10
- qbking77 has posted videos of reviews and install guides for most of the roms around here. If you find the install directions confusing watch the appropriate video and see if that helps you at all, he does a very good job of walking you through it... Also his reviews are quite helpful as well if you're not sure if you want to flash or not... Please consult these as opposed to starting a thread asking "should i flash XXXX?? is it good?" these things are a matter of personal preference... Also pretty much everything around here these days is good enough to use as a daily driver, all roms will have a working/not working section... refer to that, if everything you use is marked as working and the rom is not labeled "alpha build HIGHLY unstable, etc..." chances are it'll work for you well day to day and does not warrant starting a thread asking if its good enough to use as a daily driver...
- Stock roms/stock leaks are labeled as EL29, FF18, etc... all this represents is the date Samsung compiled the rom... the 1st letter represents the year (E=2011 F=2012) and the second represents the month (January=A all the way through December=L) and the number is the date. Modems follow the same naming scheme. The modems available are not limited to the "matching" rom in any way, ANY modem can be used with ANY rom (thanks to kingdazy for clarification on how the Samsung naming scheme works!)
7/26/12 EDIT:
It's been brought to my attention that we have a lot of people posting asking how to return to stock GB for whatever reason... all that you need to do is ODIN EL29, sfhub's one-click can be found here, its all you need ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101 )
Also if you took the OTA and want root you can just ODIN the FF18 rooted one-click, found here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 )
IF you need to get rid of the yellow triangle on the bootscreen in order to return your phone to sprint/it annoys you or whatever you need to download chainfire's app "triangle away" from the play store, its requires ICS and its like $1.99, buy it even if you don't need it, dude deserves the money for his awesome work on android devices... If you're still on GB you'll need a usb jig
~I will be adding more info to this over the next few days, but I figured this was enough to get started on, again any suggestions or additions are welcome and encouraged! the easier we make it for new users to get started the fewer times we'll all have to answer the same questions over and over again... If i referred to your work without crediting it I assure you it was accidental and if you notify me of my mistake I will make sure to edit the post accordingly to credit you, again thanks for any input!~
will be editing this to bring it current and for style this weekend, overdue for an update
This is very nice.. I wish I read something like this when I first got my phone months back, I had to take pieces of information from "here and there" and put it all together.. It can be overwhelming but it's not impossible to the new users
MiguelHogue said:
This is very nice.. I wish I read something like this when I first got my phone months back, I had to take pieces of information from "here and there" and put it all together.. It can be overwhelming but it's not impossible to the new users
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thanks for your input! i'd actually thank you but have used up my 8 already today! I thought this would be useful as I've been seeing a lot of the same questions all over the place recently which are already answered in various threads, and there are some really good highly detailed guides out there as well, but we're kind of lacking in something that brings them all together in a noob friendly manner, like if you've never had a Samsung phone before its not immediately obvious that you need to start with sfhub's Odin thread since you're all like WTF is a ODIN?!? same with is it safe to flash xxxx from xxxx... those of us that have been around know the drill by now, and i guess it is kind of elaborate vs flashing on most phones, but its bothersome to have to reply to the same question over and over again, so hopefully this helps make it easier... like i said i will continue to add to this and welcome suggestions, again thanks for your input!
Thank you for this excellent guide. I'm a dev coming from the 3D and was about as lost as one can be, and this was a massive help to me. I appreciate it. :good:
No problem man, that's why I took the time to write it, have fun with the phone, its awesome... jet life till the next life
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great post, OP!
perhaps you might consider a concise explanation of build designations/dates (fdxx ffxx, ect) vs modem, and how they are related but not exclusive?
i struggled with that my first few days...
kingdazy said:
great post, OP!
perhaps you might consider a concise explanation of build designations/dates (fdxx ffxx, ect) vs modem, and how they are related but not exclusive?
i struggled with that my first few days...
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I will edit to add that in later today, thanks for the suggestion!
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No problem man, that's why I took the time to write it, have fun with the phone, its awesome... jet life till the next life
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You already know man.
Outstanding write up cp320703 !
Thanks to everyone on this site, all guides were done so well I didn't have any questions and I rooted my phone and installed a custom rom and modem very easily. Thanks to all who made this possible. I was tired of waiting for ICS from sprint, so thank you all very much.
Rafter_Man said:
Thanks to everyone on this site, all guides were done so well I didn't have any questions and I rooted my phone and installed a custom rom and modem very easily. Thanks to all who made this possible. I was tired of waiting for ICS from sprint, so thank you all very much.
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Thanks op.
Thanks for this guide, it has been really helpful. I have had htc phones before, but this is my first Samsung. Just a little bit different.
Great guide, I'm coming over from my evo 4g and was a little worried about rooting my touch. This guide takes away the doubt I had.
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thanks
BigSmoke53 said:
Great guide, I'm coming over from my evo 4g and was a little worried about rooting my touch. This guide takes away the doubt I had.
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thanks for your guide and information; already I do some of the tested Roms and every I test i love it
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thanks for your guide and information; already I do some of the tested Roms and every I test i love it
Thanks my friend sextape recommended me this place as soon as I got the Epic ..
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Thanks my friend sextape recommended me this place as soon as I got the Epic ..
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Ah I See You Finally Came Thru Here Glad To See Ya, People On This Forum Are Great Dude!
Okay, first off thanks for the guide. However for some of us senior posters coming from HTC phones there still could be a clearer clarifications.
You say dont flash from ICS recoveries. That is confusing some of us that are not rookies. I understand much different then HTC phones Samsung has the recovery in the kernal. So are you saying not to flash from the built in phone recovery to another ICS build?
From what I gather and please correct me if I am wrong. If you have a custom agat kernal from 2.1 up you can flash betweeen FF!8 official rom or from custom rom to rom as long as you use ODIN to do it? Or is is ODIN MOBILE only do do it as long as you dont attempt thru stock recovery?
How about if your on stock FF18 kernal. Can you still use ODIN safely to go from ICS rom to rom? Should you always use either SFHUBS or Caulikins format program first?
Sorry to sound stupid but the verbage is new to some of us from other phones.
Thanks a bunch!
iceshark said:
Okay, first off thanks for the guide. However for some of us senior posters coming from HTC phones there still could be a clearer clarifications.
You say dont flash from ICS recoveries. That is confusing some of us that are not rookies. I understand much different then HTC phones Samsung has the recovery in the kernal. So are you saying not to flash from the built in phone recovery to another ICS build?
From what I gather and please correct me if I am wrong. If you have a custom agat kernal from 2.1 up you can flash betweeen FF!8 official rom or from custom rom to rom as long as you use ODIN to do it? Or is is ODIN MOBILE only do do it as long as you dont attempt thru stock recovery?
How about if your on stock FF18 kernal. Can you still use ODIN safely to go from ICS rom to rom? Should you always use either SFHUBS or Caulikins format program first?
Sorry to sound stupid but the verbage is new to some of us from other phones.
Thanks a bunch!
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sorry just saw this post, ODIN is always safe, and now that the emmc bug is understood most all of the kernels in the repo are safe as well, a bit of code just needed removed from stock to make them so. Odin and cwm are two means to the same end for the most part, however outside of official leaks you won't really be flashing roms via ODIN. Basically if you are on stock ff18 rooted you would want to ODIN a safe kernel, then you would be good to flash roms via cwm going forward
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cp320703 said:
sorry just saw this post, ODIN is always safe, and now that the emmc bug is understood most all of the kernels in the repo are safe as well, a bit of code just needed removed from stock to make them so. Odin and cwm are two means to the same end for the most part, however outside of official leaks you won't really be flashing roms via ODIN. Basically if you are on stock ff18 rooted you would want to ODIN a safe kernel, then you would be good to flash roms via cwm going forward
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That perfect! Thanks for clarification on this. I am sure others wondered the same.. Now if there was just a nice Vanilla stock type tweaked non theamed ICS rom I would jump in. I will however ODIN Agats 2.3 to be ready! You rock!