Quick question before root. - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi first time poster, please dont flame me if this has been said else where, but most threads have multiple pages with people asking multiple questions and its slightly confusing.
So what i want to ask is....
Im waiting for Android 2.2 to be officially released from HTC OTA (Rumours saying within next 2 weeks) However, im not to confident in HTC as nothing official has been said and i wouldnt be suprised if it got delayed. Now my thinking is, ill root my phone, and install a 2.2 ROM on it, but what i was wondering is, when the official release comes out, could i restore my Desire back to the Stock ROM (Unbranded Desire btw) so i can recieve the update? (I Prefer having everything working over slight improvements in certain aspects + have SENSE although i hate the interfrace. just like the widgets)
Would this be possible?
Thanks for the help.

You won't be able to receive it OTA, but it would fairly quickly make it's way here and you can just flash it from here as you would any other rom.
Edit: Just realisesd you will flash back to stock. If you go back to stock rom then I think you will get it OTA as normal. It's only custom roms that don't get it this way.

So the fact that the phone would be rooted shouldnt cause an issue?
Sorry if these are nooby questions, just scared of breaking my desire haha! cant afford a new
also sorry i think i have seen this else where, just struggling to find it again, but there is an unbranded stock rom available correct? or could i backup my current 1?
wish this was as simple as my g1

There is definitely at least 1 rooted stock rom about, and loads of official stock roms available. I can't remember where I seen the rooted stock one. It's in here somewhere! You can't backup your current rom without root unfortunately.
At the very worst, if you couldn't get the update OTA then you would get it here anyway so there is no problem with that.
Actual rooting will not cause any issues at all. It's fairly safe now.

Sweet! Thanks for the help! Your very kind for not flaming me haha!
Btw nothing against the developers in here! your putting HTC and Google to shame in some places, i just like EVERYTHING working on my phone, dont like broken cameras etc, hence me liking stock
Thanks again!

Lol the devs here are brilliant.
Before you totally decide to go stock, you could try one of pays sense roms. They have everything working perfect, and infact are better than stock for speed, looks, and battery life. There is nothing not working in his roms!
It's really only froyo roms that have bugs so you could just steer clear from them for now.

oh dont get me wrong, im gonna try the froyo, and other roms, i just want to try them out until i settle with 1 for now, i got no problem with them for the short term, just the 1 i stick with i want to work, and to be honest, (going on my g1 root experiance) i never found a rom that worked 100%, but maybe im just being a noob and didnt find any.
Cheers for the advise though, ill have a look for some pays roms now.
Thanks again for help

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2 n00b questions. please help me out.

Hey all. Droid n00b here with a couple questions I was hoping someone could help me out with. Anyway I just rooted my phone and am using the stock rooted rom but I would like to put Froyo on it. I have seen a LOT of custom ROMs but all have different names and I am not sure how to tell if they are the FROYO kernel or the 2.1. So what is the best Froyo rom to flash ( I hope I am saying this right haha) Also is it true that the camera wont work?
Oh and for the second question. I have major light leakage around the left side and the bottom of the device and have already ordered my replacement and was concerned about turning it in rooted. Can I get into trouble? Is it illegal or anything if it is rooted?
Anyway, I have downloaded the RUU : The RUU_Supersonic_1.32.651.6_Radio_1.39.00.05.31_release_171253_signed file but it keeps telling me that it cannot see the Evo. And to make sure that it is connected.
Anyone else had this problem?
Anyway as I am new here and have no idea how long response time will take, I'll wait a couple hours before i cross post over to andriodforums.
Thanks so much for all your help,
BTW I did see the Roms page and that page but 2 of the Froyo Roms are designated as Dev. Does that mean that I shouldnt use those? maybe there are ones that arent dev that I can use?
and last point the reason that I am thinking about the froyo rom is becasue my battery life is attrocious. I am talking 4 hours moderate usage and its gone.
I have tried the Hard reset. I have tried the supposed HTC on off on off on off change. I have also done the CDMA "fix" as well and still it is terrible.
You should probably not root if you are going to return the phone because they might be a bit upset. It's not illegal, but they may charge you for the phone. If you've already rooted, just install the stock RUU and it should take care of it.
As for Froyo, the one from Avalaunch is really the only usable one right now. However, as it is a dev ROM it has some issues and there are some things that aren't working. If you are a self-described "n00b", you'll probably want to hold off until things get a bit more stable.
If you are having battery life issues, try any of the 2.1 ROM's that are more stable. Almost all of them offer better battery life than the stock ROM. I think the best ROM in this sense is the non-Sense ROM since it has almost all of HTC's battery-sucking elements removed.
OK I cannot seem to get the RUU to work. I keep getting:
Errror [170]: USB Connection Error
The ROM Utility cannot connect to your android phone etc....
I have tried all 4 of my USB slots and I am running windows 7. Anyone have any ideas? Or other ways to get the EVO back to stock?
Thanks
Try a different RUU. If you tried .6 use .1, and vice-versa. Both are stock and should be fine. If you still have the issue, try Google. There are a whole bunch of different things that can cause this issue from a bad RUU to antivirus, firewalls, etc., so there are a whole bunch of different fixes.
EDIT: Also check out the way to bypass RUU at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700680&page=2
If you have any more questions about this you should probably post to that thread as this is basically a duplicate.
rdude said:
You should probably not root if you are going to return the phone because they might be a bit upset. It's not illegal, but they may charge you for the phone. If you've already rooted, just install the stock RUU and it should take care of it.
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Yeah thanks for the response but see my above post.
rdude said:
As for Froyo, the one from Avalaunch is really the only usable one right now. However, as it is a dev ROM it has some issues and there are some things that aren't working. If you are a self-described "n00b", you'll probably want to hold off until things get a bit more stable.
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Ok cool. I think that I will wait for the froyo that is more stable.
rdude said:
If you are having battery life issues, try any of the 2.1 ROM's that are more stable. Almost all of them offer better battery life than the stock ROM. I think the best ROM in this sense is the non-Sense ROM since it has almost all of HTC's battery-sucking elements removed.
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Ok again thanks. Good news. I'll try that one as soon as i pick up my new EVO that they just called and said they have. Perfect. Now all I need to do is restore this back to factory settings.
I have a mac in the other room. Is there an RUU that i can run off of the mac, maybe?
rdude said:
Try a different RUU. If you tried .6 use .1, and vice-versa. Both are stock and should be fine. If you still have the issue, try Google. There are a whole bunch of different things that can cause this issue from a bad RUU to antivirus, firewalls, etc., so there are a whole bunch of different fixes.
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do you happen to have a link to the .1 version?
grabbed the .1 version as well as the .6 and niether can communicate with my Evo. hmmmm

I'm scared about rooting my HTC Desire.

I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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1. if u follow the steps exactly as explained, and never touch the phone when it is installing flashing formatting etc etc then u get 99.9% u wont brick it
dont worry im also a student and i bet theres more of us here
2. hmm not sure how to explain what a radio is
3. yes u can, but dont see a reason why, cuz devs update roms quicker and add more functions to them
4. if you just root then no you wont loose your stuff, if you want to install a custom rom then yes you will loose it but you can always back it up using free rommanager back up
This is the main reason why I haven't rooted my Desire yet, despite 1 or 2 friends urging me to. They have Heros. I haven't got the money to replace it and seen as it's on contract I'd be pretty screwed for the next 13 months or something.
Don't worry
Understandable.
I was thinking the same.
It was when I run out of space to install apps and gmail stop working bcoz of low memory space warning.
I decided to take the plunge.
Used unrevoked to root my desire and installing my second rom today lol.
Oh and the radio is the file that contains radio setup for froyo roms.
the one you need for froyo rom is version 5.xx. eg. 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08.
so if you are going to install froyo based roms then you need the radio file update or all hell breaks loose.
you can update the radio then install the rom or the other way around up to you.
have fun and ask if you need help.
Was in a similar situation and finally took the plunge today.
Was 10x easier than I thought it would be. Follow the guides and you can't go wrong.
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Radio is the part that handles WiFi, gps, 3G and all that stuff. E.g. you have low WiFi signal, you can update the radio to fix it.
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Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App (thanks for the tip due this app )
The ROM's here don't include the radio hence why you need to update the radio seprately, most, if not all, the froyo ROM's will need the latest radio.
Peelypeel said:
Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App (thanks for the tip due this app )
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Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
jacketyjoe said:
Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
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Is this Neophyte?
showthread.php?t=732246 (i cant post links yet, im sure you can work that out though)
and how do i flash the radio with unrevoked3, where do i even get the radio... file?
Sorry about the questions, normally id just go barrelling into to something like this and work it out as i went, but this is serious stuff this time. I want to be sure.
Thanks again
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
Peelypeel said:
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
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i think it means you just locked your phone to the simcard that was in your phone at the time. Rooting it should unlock it again though
BTW here is an unrevoked guide, neophytes ROM and the radio (use the latest, not the leaked one), follow all the instructions to the letter and you should be fine (follow unrevoked's rom flashing instructions for the radio though, thats how i did it and gawd was it easy)
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
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Peelypeel said:
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I'd tried the other way first and my phone wouldn't root (i was really really frightened when a HTC logo came up and stayed on for a whole 24hrs) so i tried unrevoked and it worked like a charm
Lets hope everything goes a bit smoother for you than me
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
Peelypeel said:
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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no trouble then, nice to hear
Have fun, i love it
Sorry to ask a stupid question, can i root my desire, keep my current OS as it is and still get the OTA update to 2.2 as it would if my phone wasn't rooted?
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
SteveEdson said:
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
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Agree, also have the modaco ROM. Best thing is that you bake your own rom and only put items that you really need.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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Well mate.. I was pretty much in the same boat as you.. Student, wanting to root my phone, didn't know what all the stuff was.. And I'll try and rectify it for you as much as possible, following your points .
1. If you follow the guides which have been put up by unrevoked, or the guide on this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 or our lovely friends over at android.modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ then you shouldn't have a problem at all. I was feeling the same way, was confused and really didn't want to risk the rooting process.
2. The Radio.. It's not like a Radio which we use to tune in to FM and AM, think of it as something to help other processes work in the phone. Be it Wifi, 3G, HSDPA, GSM.. All these get updated with the new ROM's (Froyo) and they need the Radio to make them run smoother, and better. Think of a Radio as a driver when you're updating something on a computer. But BE CAREFUL when flashing the Radio, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT touch the phone until it has completely finished booting (2 or 3 times, you'll know when it's finished).
3. You can put it back to normal any time, just by flashing an older ROM on to it, just have a look at some of the official RUU's on this forum.
4. The sort of stuff which you're worried about are photos, text messages and apps? Best way for this is to invest in MyBackupPro, where you can back up all of your texts online etc. For apps and all, why not download ASTRO from the Market? It can back up all your apps and install them again no problems.
I hope this helps
Dan

[Q] Any way to re-install OTA Froyo ?

I see I'm not going to get any help with my bluetooth issues, and since the problem only started AFTER Sprint pushed 2.2 to my EVO, I can deduce something got f'd up during the flash.
HTC has washed their hands of the problem because apparently, I'm special and am the only one complaining.
So my question is, can I re-install 2.2, and if so, how?
I thought about rooting, but I'm happy with the phone and doubt I'd use many of the benefits other than WiFi tethering.
Besides, it's too confusing. Nand? NAN back up? MSL? dalvik? RUU? Blah?
Not to mention root guides dated weeks b4 2.2 was even officially rooted! Try to follow one guide, and it describes a step you must do first by following another link.
Ask a noob question and you're likely to get an unrelated answer (Why would you want to do that?).
I just want to fix my fu*ing bluetooth!!!
Will this accomplish what I want, as far as re-installing 2.2 (even though I'm not rooted)?
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
leebo said:
Will this accomplish what I want, as far as re-installing 2.2 (even though I'm not rooted)?
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
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Looks like it should-- everything except doing a NAND backup first, of course.
Although if Bluetooth performance is what you want, you really should root and install CM6 or some other ROM that actually uses a decent BT stack. It's really not that hard-- the stickied thread in the Development forum for rooting OTA 2.2 explains everything in real basic terms and works perfectly.
Many thanks.
So, I don't have to go back to 2.1 to re-install 2.2?
I'll try it this weekend. If it doesn't fix my BT problem, I'll try another ROM.
It's just, like I said. My BT worked perfect with 2.1. As far as other ROMS, maybe someday, but right now Android Market And AppBrain keep me busy.
Whoops! Forgot to ask, when they say "stock" RUU, does that include HTC Sense? I know a lot of people don't like it, but I do.
Well, now, I made the "mistake" of doing more reading, and now I'm more confused than b4.
So b4 you flash or restore a RUU (ROM?), you're supposed to do a "nand backup".
Someone suggested Amon_RA , so I went to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026&highlight=Amon_RA
There it says installing it will wipe all your info. But I thought this was supposed to let you back up?
Somewhere else I saw this:
Boot into recovery. Select Backup/Restore. Select Nand Backup.
How exactly? How do you boot into recovery mode? I found bootloader mode, but not reovery. I found a post where someone asked that same question, of course it wasn't answered.
The problem with forums is that everything is all over the place. People get tired of answering the same questions over and over, yet the reason most people ask the same questions is... everything is all over the place!
Forget about doing a NAND backup... you need root to restore it anyways, which you don't have, so it's pointless.
Just run the RUU. It will basically give you clean 2.2 image.
I am not worthy.
Do what Sohr said you will lose everything but you will have a clean image. When it comes to recovery to get to it you must first be rooted and have a custom recovery either Amon Ra( the link you left earlier) or Clockwork Mod recovery. To get into it you could use a free app from the market called quick boot that would bott you into recovery without using the bootloader...
It all seems complicated for the first week then it becomes natural on how to do it all. If you need help with anything PM me and maybe I can help you.
Thanks. Well, I did the deed yesterday. I will take anywhere from a few minutes to a couple of days to see if my problem is fixed.
Thanks for the help. I will probably try another ROM if this didn't work. At least now I have a sense of how to do it.
Well, it took minutes. Crap. Same problem (bluetooth audio cuts in and out on my end, but not on the other persons end).
HTC told me to go to hell. I wonder if Sprint has any units in yet. I con't believe I'm the only one with this issue!

[Q] Wait and Stay with Un-rooted Stock?

I read an article earlier today about Sprint putting out ICS at the end of this month (June 30).
On my other phone, it was a huge hassle going back to stock for the ICS update.
So should I just stay with TouchWiz till the end of the month?
So far every prediction and announcement of official ics for this phone has been wrong. If you need root, then go with a rock solid rooted EL29 rom. If you accept an ota of ics, you can't root it. You will have to wait for a pre-rooted build to be released here and flash again. Using sfhub's one click Odin releases, it isn't difficult at all. Just don't be lazy and choose the nodata version. You will most likely have problems eventually if you don't do the full flash version. So many people are wanting help for a multitude of reasons. It usually boils down to do the full version flash and start from the beginning. Also, if you have it, don't be doing titanium backups of gingerbread installs then restoring them in ice cream sandwich, you'll be opening another can of worms with that.
Are you tunning a custom rom or are you rooted now? How difficult was it to root? Have you checked sfhubs thread? Just asking you some questions because honestly rooting and unrooting is probably all of 5 minutes. Also when ICS comes out do you honestly think it won be rooted in minutes. So why stress yourself or start a thread over something you really don't need to worry about... Just Sayin
Stay with stock root with sfhubs method either way its not that big a deal when ICS comes out
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oscarthegrouch said:
So far every prediction and announcement of official ics for this phone has been wrong. If you need root, then go with a rock solid rooted EL29 rom. If you accept an ota of ics, you can't root it. You will have to wait for a pre-rooted build to be released here and flash again. Using sfhub's one click Odin releases, it isn't difficult at all. Just don't be lazy and choose the nodata version. You will most likely have problems eventually if you don't do the full flash version. So many people are wanting help for a multitude of reasons. It usually boils down to do the full version flash and start from the beginning. Also, if you have it, don't be doing titanium backups of gingerbread installs then restoring them in ice cream sandwich, you'll be opening another can of worms with that.
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I appreciate you input and tips!
playya said:
Are you tunning a custom rom or are you rooted now? How difficult was it to root? Have you checked sfhubs thread? Just asking you some questions because honestly rooting and unrooting is probably all of 5 minutes. Also when ICS comes out do you honestly think it won be rooted in minutes. So why stress yourself or start a thread over something you really don't need to worry about... Just Sahib's
Stay with stock root with sfhubs method either way its not that big a deal when ICS comes out
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I have an HTC Dinc2 ATM. I know how to root it, and try out roms and all that.
But on Monday, when UPS delivers my E4GT, I want to be able to jump right into rooting it and putting a good rom on it so I can spend least time learning how to flash a rom onto it and least time running into mistakes and not be a tad bit familiar with what I'm doing and mess up something.
You're reply is sorta idk... I'm not stressing over anything. I want to unbox it, do everything I need to it, and be able to start using it right away. I just want it to be stable and have ics -even if its stock ota or a custom rom.
Edit: Usually I don't start threads because they end up not answered or someone replies not being helpful but being harsh. I'm just trying to have everything situated right.
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I appreciate you input and tips!
I have an HTC Dinc2 ATM. I know how to root it, and try out roms and all that.
But on Monday, when UPS delivers my E4GT, I want to be able to jump right into rooting it and putting a good rom on it so I can spend least time learning how to flash a rom onto it and least time running into mistakes and not be a tad bit familiar with what I'm doing and mess up something.
You're reply is sorta idk... I'm not stressing over anything. I want to unbox it, do everything I need to it, and be able to start using it right away. I just want it to be stable and have ics -even if its stock ota or a custom rom.
Edit: Usually I don't start threads because they end up not answered or someone replies not being helpful but being harsh. I'm just trying to have everything situated right.
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OK then just Odin one of the newest stock ICS roms out there. Agat has some nice ones as well if this is what you are looking for but stable for one may not be for others. I run cm9 with lil to no issues but I see other guys complain. Hey inbox Odin the latest ICS and enjoy
Edit: Sorry if my previous answer was confusing but sometimes people ask questions that have no definitive answers.
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Scared of Rooting

Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.
Wilks3y said:
Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.
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All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard
The-Last-Hylian said:
All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard
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Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?
Wilks3y said:
Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?
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unlocking your boot loader will void you warranty, but if you have a fault less hox like i got then go for it
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Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.
Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...
Huubs said:
Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.
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My HOX is about 2 months old now, and seen no issues what so ever. I want to be able to customise it to be honest, thats about it. It runs smooth and fast as it is, but I get bored of things so easy and the Sense UI etc is boring me to death now .
And thats another thing putting me off rooting mate, JellyBean is (Should be) just around the corner? So don't know whether to wait, or Root
Flo95 said:
Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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I have had my phone longer than that, but still very very worried about rooting.
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It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...
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Ah I see, do you know of any cases where the hardware has gone wrong, and HTC have still honored the warranty even though they were rooted?
Was reading a thread of someone having a convo with HTC, and they adimantly stated that if the bootloader is unlocked you are not covered by warranty, and my understanding is that the bootloader HAS TO BE LOCKED to be rooted?
Thanks all !
It is worth doing it, yes.
I waited tree months staying on stock, but rooted, then i decided to install ARHD 2.3.2. Stock was already very good but a custom rom gives the HOX the rest to be the best phone on market. Battery life increases, the handling is even more fluid and laggless as before.
What can going wrong? Well, the most common failure is to forget flashing boot.img as a separate step, because this is unusual against the procedure done with desire or others.
Also restoring a nandroid backup also requires to flash boot of the backup separately. If you keep the boot images at your PC and the ROM Zips on your device, you are well prepared to do this.
Hi mate,
Yes I will make sure to back EVERYTHING up. I have a couple more questions.
I have seen people saying flash RUU, Flash Kernal, etc.
I don't know what the RUU is and im not very informed about Kernals, I know the ROM is the OS, the Kernal is the Driver? I think (NOT A CLUE ABOUT RUU)
And I have heard of battery life getting drained much quicker etc after root? Or people developing signal problems etc.
Finally, if I do root, and decide I don't like it, can I revert to stock and retain warranty?
Again thanks for all the help so far guys !
had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to
Goku80 said:
had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !
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no problem my friend. here is a good start up guide for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_One_X
Wilks3y said:
Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
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All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.
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All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.
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Don't suppose you know what happens when / if they release the official JB Rom,
Can you go back to stock roms, cuz I think when JB is released, I would want to go back to stock.
I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!
Huubs said:
I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!
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Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?
Wilks3y said:
Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?
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I know exactly what you mean. It took me a year before i rooted my desire. You root when you are ready for it.
Here's i.m.o. the best guide for rooting your One X: http://onexroot.com/one-x-root/how-to-root-one-x/
Step 18: go to your location where you put the onexroot-folder
Step 39: Download cwm 5.8.4.0 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819 and place it in the onexroot-folder and flash it with fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.0-endeavoru.img
After flashing cwm, make a nandroid backup from your stock rom. Then you continue with step 40.
If you're ready with the guide and it's not ok, you missed something. This almost can't go wrong.
Goodluck :good:
Go for it
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Go for it
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See, this morning I was all up for it.
I was like "Yeah, what can go wrong, the ROM's look brilliant, you've rooted and flashed a phone before and it was better after flash".
Now I'm like "No DONT DO IT, if something goes wrong then you'll have to pay for repairs, when you've already spent 500£ on the phone".
BAH why does Vipers ROM exist, I would be able to stay away from rooting without that ROM, I just love the red/blue themes where its all black etc.

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