2.3 is pushing this week, before accepting the update do I need to unroot my phone? It's on Unrevoked at the moment. Or can I push the update and it will magically unroot my phone? If that happens will unrevoked work again or will it be stuck in no root land till someone finds a root for 2.3?
Ugh! There are probably 20 threads that cover this but since there will probably be 20 more... If you want to stay rooted don't update until a Dev has had a chance to release a rooted stock version. Unrevoked will most likely (99%) not work to get you root.
Your best bet is to just be patient and keep an eye on the development section. Someone will definately release a rooted version, relatively quickly. I think the leaked gingerbread was rooted the same day it got leaked.
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Or you could just go to a custom ROM in the meantime... they're so much better than stock anyway
Aptalmagest said:
2.3 is pushing this week, before accepting the update do I need to unroot my phone? It's on Unrevoked at the moment. Or can I push the update and it will magically unroot my phone? If that happens will unrevoked work again or will it be stuck in no root land till someone finds a root for 2.3?
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It will not magically unroot your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16688892&postcount=72
So then I do need to unroot my phone do accept the update?
Aptalmagest said:
So then I do need to unroot my phone do accept the update?
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Yes. That's exactly what thread after thread is saying. Search function bro... Really. Frankly, I think doing such a thing would be pretty stupid, but that's your call. And I'll tell you exactly why it would be stupid......
In a few short days you're gonna see a flood of ADB rooted ROMs in the dev section that will unquestionably be better than the bone stock job you'll be totally stuck with. I can tell you from experience that just because its an OTA doesn't mean its better. And if you're that crazy for the bleeding edge of Android, the version of gingerbread in the OTA will not be as current as CM7. I don't personally like gingerbread much. It hasn't cracked up to be the magic elixir people make it out to be, just like so many new devices that everyone SWEARS will be the next digital Mecha.... Incidentally, I'm typing this on the HTC Mecha, which was swooned over for month, then hated on for all the same weaknesses the dInc has.
Friend to friend here... I wouldn't tell anyone to do what you're think of doing.
I'm being steered in the same direction. On 2.2 rooted with unrevoked. Unrooting is undeniably more complicated than rooting IMO and, as stated, the ROMs that are going to be builted off the 2.3 OTA will be better.
I'm just never flashed a ROM before so we'll see how that goes haha
You can unroot, go that route if you'd like. But there's already 2 rooted, ready to go zips of the OTA in the Development forum you could just download and flash.
I guess what I don't understand is, people seem to think that receiving the OTA you get MORE than just flashing the OTA zip that's been rooted/ready for flashing. IT'S THE SAME THING!
In order to unroot, reload the RUU or PB31IMG.zip file to get to stock, if something goes wrong, you've got a nice brick on your hands. You'll lose root when you unroot and accept the OTA, since Unrevoked's exploit is 99% more than likely patched.
You can do all of that work just to accept the OTA, but remember, you'll need to wait for root. Trust me, any day now you'll be seeing the threads of "I accepted the OTA and Unrevoked doesn't work!"...please don't be in that group of people.
GinNjoose said:
I'm being steered in the same direction. On 2.2 rooted with unrevoked. Unrooting is undeniably more complicated than rooting IMO and, as stated, the ROMs that are going to be builted off the 2.3 OTA will be better.
I'm just never flashed a ROM before so we'll see how that goes haha
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Dude, use Doug Piston's ROM Flashing Tutorial, here. It's easy.
After the screen shot showing Wiping Cache, also do:
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /data, format /boot
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then resume at the Install zip from SD Card screen shot...
loonatik78 said:
Yes. That's exactly what thread after thread is saying. Search function bro... Really. Frankly, I think doing such a thing would be pretty stupid, but that's your call. And I'll tell you exactly why it would be stupid......
In a few short days you're gonna see a flood of ADB rooted ROMs in the dev section that will unquestionably be better than the bone stock job you'll be totally stuck with. I can tell you from experience that just because its an OTA doesn't mean its better. And if you're that crazy for the bleeding edge of Android, the version of gingerbread in the OTA will not be as current as CM7. I don't personally like gingerbread much. It hasn't cracked up to be the magic elixir people make it out to be, just like so many new devices that everyone SWEARS will be the next digital Mecha.... Incidentally, I'm typing this on the HTC Mecha, which was swooned over for month, then hated on for all the same weaknesses the dInc has.
Friend to friend here... I wouldn't tell anyone to do what you're think of doing.
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This is wrong..you can stay s-off but you need stock recovery and stock 2.2 rom
/droid3
beard0 said:
This is wrong..you can stay s-off but you need stock recovery and stock 2.2 rom
/droid3
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I appreciate the correction.
I would definitely not root & go to JoelZ's thread & download the rooted version of the 2.3.4 update!!!
RMarkwald said:
Dude, use Doug Piston's ROM Flashing Tutorial, here. It's easy.
After the screen shot showing Wiping Cache, also do:
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /data, format /boot
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then resume at the Install zip from SD Card screen shot...
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ALRIGHT HERE GOES NUTHIN!
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
SUCCESS! Joel's 2.3.4 release flashed! Wow, that really was easy! I got scared when it hung on backup during the generation of the MD5 sum though, took all of like 10 min..... what does that mean anyway?
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Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)
It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.
jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
SantinoInc said:
Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?
SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B
I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.
I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol
I want to Root my Evo,but i have no idea if i will be able to get my gingerbread or even honeycomb OTA update.
i really dont know how to do manually updates,i dont know if its even hard to do.
What is a good/reliable team to get my rooting access from?
in Mind is the UnrEVOked team.
please give me your opinions to help me make the right decisions.
and threads or anything useful for me to have.
If you stay on the stock ROM you should still be able to get ota's but you might loose your root. The cooked ROMs will be updated usually before the official updates are even rolled out, and most likely tweaked and improved. I wouldn't even worry about sprints updates. As far as choosing a ROM, just read through the development forum and read what the ROM offers and the comments through the thread of users reporting bugs (if any) and opinions of performance. Baked snack, CM, and fresh seem to be the most popular and stable. Start with one of those. I used calkulin and frost, both work well too if you like vanilla Android, fresh was the only sense ROM I used and it was very nice. Its all about what look you want and customization. Thats the beauty of Android.
There are plenty of tutorials on the process, read the useful threads and links thread. Thats a good place to start. When ROMs get updated just flash over the previous unless the dev says a wipe is needed, which is rare.
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
Sent from my PC36100
Caspers25 said:
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
Sent from my PC36100
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Custom recovery will either be "R.A." or "ClockworkMod." They are a little different from each other. People usually use R.A. They say that clockworkmod doesn't delete cache right, but I personally use clockwork. What a recovery is, is a menu outside the phones system that allows you to install flashable zips. It also allows you to wipe anything, format anything and create & restore nandroid back ups.
There are tons of Roms. Roms are the system of your phone. Usually flashed from the SD card.
Sent From My HTC Evo Using Tapatalk Pro!
If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
_MetalHead_ said:
If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
tomh1979 said:
The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Hmm... I haven't heard of that but don't doubt it.
The thing is, the devs here usually get their hands on OTAs before they are rolled out, then they make them better and package them into their ROMs. I see no reason to even care about receiving OTAs at all, tbqh
Well i was reading about it and from what I gathered up.
It tells me that if you have a custom Rom you aren't able to accept OTAs,I don't wanna manually update my phone. I don't even know how.
But I need to know of a custom recovery with disable me from getting OTAs,help?
If I should use any custom recovery or any team who should I get my root from? I have a unrooted 2.2 sense.
I need a guide and video tutorial,ha.
I'm on my girls MAC,so no windows stuff please.
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Referring to your original post here, I wouldn't root until you are fully comfortable with getting down and dirty with your phone. You say you don't want to or even know how to manually update your phone, well that is Android 101. If you aren't fully familiar with everything that rooting entails (custom recoveries, kernels, ROMs, SU permissions) then you need to keep reading. I spent weeks reading everything I could find before I rooted my phone and I suggest doing the same so you don't potentially fark things up.
Read the wiki, read through the rooting threads in development and really try and build a full understanding of what you're doing before you make the leap.
Well I've rooted my g1 way back then. But I know its not the same concept anymore,but they really never had an update it was just 1.6 so yeah.
I just want OTAs still.
Does any one know what is an Nandroid?
Sent from my HTC EVO
I agree with _MetalHead_ . You really need to read more on rooting, ROMS (and in the process, you'll learn about Nandroid!) before proceeding. I also spent weeks reading and then I didn't go full root - just enough to get wireless tether. Then, I read some more. There are some incredibly helpful people here as well as some incredibly rude people.
While unrevoked can get you started, learn adb and get comfortable pulling and pushing apks. Get very comfortable with Nandroid because it's going to save you.
My lessons learned are 1) NEVER accept an OTA update because it can take devs a long while to gain root, and 2) be patient and NEVER pull the battery while the Evo is doing something - like updating.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
Sent from my HTC EVO
A nandroid backup can be done from the recovery screen and it essentially backs up your phone EXACTLY as it is when you run it. So if you want to change something, you nandroid backup (which includes contacts, themes, settings, everything) and if your change doesn't work out, you can boot into recovery and restore your nandroid backup.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Just did a little research. The reason why the updates won't take is because of the custom recovery. You need to flash a stock recovery in order to accept updates. It's on Unrevoked's website.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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Google is your friend. Nandroid is a way to backup and restore your phone.
I already posted the link to the wiki, that is the first place you should start. Next, read through a lot of rooting threads in the development forum here on xda. If you still have questions use the forum's search tool and use google. You gotta do the legwork.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nandroid+Backup
this should help... teach a man to fish...
So, my evo is rooted with unrevoked. Im running 2.2 right now and want the 2.3.3.
If i do the update through sprint that it keeps telling me to download EVERYDAY...will it mess up my phone cause of the root..or what will it do?
IF i accept it...
please let me know. Its starting to annoy me lol
;15115565 said:
So, my evo is rooted with unrevoked. Im running 2.2 right now and want the 2.3.3.
If i do the update through sprint that it keeps telling me to download EVERYDAY...will it mess up my phone cause of the root..or what will it do?
IF i accept it...
please let me know. Its starting to annoy me lol
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Unless u ran unrevoked forever and have s off forever than by running the update u will lose root. Even if ur s off forever u run the risk of losing root as well. At best u can flash one of the gb roms in the dev section.
what if it is s-on?
<h1> said:
what if it is s-on?
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Then you're kinda outta luck til they find a root for the new OTA.
i used unrevoked3. does that make a difference between the forever? im kinda new at this stuff. my roommate is the whiz at this **** lol so ya. im tempted to unroot it and forget it all cause its actually messing up my phone more than ive used the gratefullness of the root
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what if it is s-on?
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If ur s on then ur not rooted. If u haven't taken the update then rerun unrevoked. If u have run update then u sol till new root method is found.
;15115922 said:
i used unrevoked3. does that make a difference between the forever? im kinda new at this stuff. my roommate is the whiz at this **** lol so ya. im tempted to unroot it and forget it all cause its actually messing up my phone more than ive used the gratefullness of the root
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If I had to make a choice I'd go to the dev section and choose a rom that I liked and flashed that. Then u don't have to wireless bout it anymore. With root u unlock things but also can get alot better battery life and can customize things like percentage battery and different lock screeens and lots more. Just look around and test things out before u give up. Its not as hard as u think to get the hang of it.
ok wow im stupid.
unrevoked forever is what i used. my bad lol sorry.
s-off
we tried 3 but it wouldnt work for some reason so we did the forever.
phone is rooted for sure.
so if i did the sprint update from the "update phone" section on the phone...i would lose root? would it flash phone too? honestly at this point idc about the root anymore really. i am about to upgrade to the Evo 3D next weekend
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ok wow im stupid.
unrevoked forever is what i used. my bad lol sorry.
s-off
we tried 3 but it wouldnt work for some reason so we did the forever.
phone is rooted for sure.
so if i did the sprint update from the "update phone" section on the phone...i would lose root? would it flash phone too? honestly at this point idc about the root anymore really. i am about to upgrade to the Evo 3D next weekend
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If ur upgrading to 3vo then no big deal. Upon reading u might have to unroot phone to get update to work. If ur selling ur evo back to sprint when u get new phone then run the s on from unrevoked and then unroot and take update. If ur putting it on eBay or craigslist or selling to a friend u can unroot and leave it s off so other person can reroot if they want
ok. so where is the best instructions on how to unroot?
i seen one in the dev section near the top (Unroot in 2 steps)<---that one?
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ok. so where is the best instructions on how to unroot?
i seen one in the dev section near the top (Unroot in 2 steps)<---that one?
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Yeah prob ur best bet is there.
Why take the update when there are optimized ROMs based on the update that work better and have in them than what you'll get from the OTA??
Papa Smurf151 said:
If ur s on then ur not rooted. If u haven't taken the update then rerun unrevoked. If u have run update then u sol till new root method is found.
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Correct yourself and stop spreading wrong information.
S off does not mean you are rooted nor does it have any correlation with being rooted.
S off is the security flag which allows the bootloader to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions.
An evo can be rooted and still have the security flag s on.
Even the installation instructions for unrevoked forever state you have to be rooted FIRST WITH A CUSTOM RECOVERY ALREADY INSTALLED in order to apply the unrevoked forever patch.
You should get your information straight before you start to put it out.
lovethyEVO said:
Correct yourself and stop spreading wrong information.
S off does not mean you are rooted nor does it have any correlation with being rooted.
S off is the security flag which allows the bootloader to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions.
An evo can be rooted and still have the security flag s on.
Even the installation instructions for unrevoked forever state you have to be rooted FIRST WITH A CUSTOM RECOVERY ALREADY INSTALLED in order to apply the unrevoked forever patch.
You should get your information straight before you start to put it out.
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Wow post like this deserve to go in the shutter. I was helping the Guy out. If he was s on then there is more than a large percentage chance that he isn't rooted. Instead of getting technical I decided to help out in q way he'd understand. So quit being a douche.
Papa Smurf151 said:
Wow post like this deserve to go in the shutter. I was helping the Guy out. If he was s on then there is more than a large percentage chance that he isn't rooted. Instead of getting technical I decided to help out in q way he'd understand. So quit being a douche.
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I wasn't being a douche. You ever heard of constructive criticism? Op stated he was still rooted and didn't take the ota. He was wondering what would happen if he did. He was also unsure if he was s on or not which has nothing to do with being rooted. You gave wrong information about the security flag when you should have told him to verify if he is s off even though he has a rooted rom. If he was s on then you could have told him to flash unrevoked forever and then he can accept the ota if he wanted.
Helping is one thing, helping with wrong information is another.
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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honestly, why did you do that??i just looked at androidcentral.com and the update doesnt fix anything special..anyway im sure a dev will have a rooted version soon..and just like he said, did it change the hboot?
You should always assume that an OTA update will break root (since it will not have Superuser installed) and that it may NAND Lock your phone (take away your S-OFF). If you want the update just wait around for a short time and a rooted version will appear here.
Well, try using an app that requires root permissions to see if it broke it, like titanium backup.
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
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Hboot version is 2.16.0001
It was not clear from your OP if you had already rooted and then took the OTA or you wanted to know if you could still root your phone.
That is the same Hboot as the previous OTA so you may still be able to root with Revolution if you have not already. If you did already root your phone you need to check to see if you still have S-OFF and a recovery that you can use to get CM loaded.
Boot to recovery (hold Vol - and Power button)
What version of HBoot is it?
Cardinal Rule:
Once rooted, never bother accessing the OTA section of your Sense ROM.
Sorry, I have never rooted and am a complete rooting noob.
[my reason is that I've had blown speakers, cracked screens, etc. and have had 5 different replacements from Sprint and don't want to void my warranty unless I can get it back to make it appear as though I've never rooted]
I did find that this Hboot version still seems to be supported with the new root methods. I have one real quick question, and I have a hard time sifting through the posts, threads, forums.
I want to root, flash a new ROM and want to be able to recover my stock Sprint ROM in case I need to send my phone back for the aforementioned issues. If I follow the root procedures and install Amon_RA's backup and backup the current ROM, I should be able to flash that ROM and get back to S-ON? or would I have to go through some procedure to get back S-ON?
Again, my apologies for posting what's been posted probably 1000 times, you can just link me to a thread....I haven't been successful in my searches for a definitive answer. And the "noob guide" sticky on the forum hasn't been updated to the new root methods, so I'm not sure what will brick me and what is usable.
yes, I will never OTA update after rooting, but in case I want to get back to a stock ROM from Sprint for warranty trade in purposes.
follow up noob question to rooting, all the proper radios and account information will be imported into my phone after flashing a new ROM? Or will I have to know specific radios, PRLs or basebands after I root. It's my primary device so I can't afford to be without.
Damn. Just rooted a few days ago under the assumption Sprint has moved on as far as supporting the EVO.... Dig root but I hope this doesn't create a problem when the update is forced on me.
You can always turn off auto update, and you can also hit cancel if the auto updater pops up. You do not Have to ever update your phone if you dont want to
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
m20120 said:
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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*noob alert* Those normally appear in the Development forum, correct? Is there a particular title I should be looking for?
No offense, and I really mean that, but you should not root your phone if you are that worried about the consequences. If you aren't willing to accept that Sprint may be able to tell you rooted you phone then deny you warranty repairs just stick with what you have. Once you get past that point then its time to have some rooting fun.
Seriously though, everyone is going to tell you how great root is, but I bet 60% or better never actually do anything with their phone that would have required root to being with!
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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Using older root methods (pre-Gingerbread), yes. But the new root method for GB/Hboot 2.16 installs a new, non-official hboot - 6.16. No one has been able to get the s-on tool to work or downgrade to a different hboot. You can flash an RUU that will take you back to stock, but you cannot gain s-on. Whether or not Sprint cares about the s-off 6.16 hboot, I don't know. Sprint is supposed to service rooted phones as long as the firmware is stock. If it's not, they'll RUU for you. You may have problems or you may not, kind of depends on who you deal with.
The revolutionary root method is still in a beta phase, what I believe they call a "developer preview" or something. Perhaps once it's released officially there will be an easy way to gain s-on.
I think that if you are worried about rooting or don't know why you would be rooting ("it seems cool" is not a legitimate reason) then you shouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
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my reason is that I'm sick of Sprint/HTC's flaky software that breaks things like wireless-n, my ability to stream music/contacts with my car stereo over bluetooth, icons constantly disappearing after reboot, Sense rebooting itself, etc. I don't care about its "cool" factor, I want control - its android, right? otherwise I'd just go get an ibone.
Thank you for that update on the 6.16 Hboot change and S-off/on status, its very helpful. Any thoughts on my question of new ROMs will know how to contact the Sprint network with all my information properly, or do I have to do something fancy to that.
I don't know...last month I couldn't root 2 or 3 weeks ago root pops up for GB 2.3.3 I rooted my phone and to tell you the truth I ain't gonna lie I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting...but I think once you try it yo ass ain't never goin back lol cuz I've been on CM7 this whole time and I'm blown away I'm gonna try out vaelpak RC2 tonight when I get home there's just so much you can do...but that's jus my opinion
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does anyone know what sense version this update is or is it still the crappy sense 1.0
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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why not wait till we get the ota and someone makes a rom put of it for us (like the same day) root is always better than stock.
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I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
Honoguma said:
I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
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Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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knipp21 said:
Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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Ah, thanks for the info. If I'm unable to find a way to get back to stock to do an ota (I prefer official, I have OCD over these things), I'll definitely check it out. Thanks!
Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Thanks. I didn't have the energy to type that all out
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One more thing. From what I've read/heard the Official Dinc II ICS will be Sense 3.6, where as the One V port that is being worked on is Sense 4.0.
I don't know what the differences are, but obviously 4.0 is 0.4 better than 3.6.
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Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Yeah, I don't want to go back to stock now, but rather wait until the update is close to release and restore to stock then. I'd rather not flash a custom from, as I'm kinda OCD about "official" and stuff. I don't mind losing rooting capabilities after the ics update.
As for the rootzwiki restore to stock thread, does it include directions specificially for the Inc 2, or is returning to stock a universal method for all devices? Don't I need specific files, tools, and direction for my phone and its firmware? Can you point me in the direction on where I can find these directions and files? I'm such a noob at this, and I apologize for not knowing anything. I just don't want to stumble across a thread where I download a wrong file and flash something bad and I'm screwed over for good.
Thanks SO much for all the help everyone!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
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Andybonesstock=our current stock rom...100%..someone will do he exact same thing when ics comes out...just trust me..
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Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
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Yes, that's the thread, and it's specifically for the Inc2. AlpharevX and Revolutionary are the same things, so those instructions will work for both.
And yea, I agree about the camera. I recently flashed AndyBone Stock and the camera is definitely better. A shame because I really like stock CM7. I'm really hoping the CM9 based camera is better.
Thank you all for all the help! I'll try and do it once I sort out another problem of mine...
Restoring to stock can be risky. Who wants to brick there device right before the ics ota? But that's just my opinion. Theres a video showing you how to unroot your device by Nat3mil. Type his name in youtube and go to his channel. The video is one of his first videos so it will be on the bottom. He also has a guide showing you how to root, I used it for my phone. Someone will have an ota rooted ics Rom the first day (FYI)
PS. While your rooted you should at least try different Roms. It can be very enjoyable. I know you will like it.
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Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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watch?v=tnlnWW8tsvo <<<< this will help
@ChrisDDD: the CM9 camera isn't very good imo. It doesn't seem to focus as well as stock, and when you zoom in on your pictures taken, they are grainy.