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My touchscreen has stopped working and I have upgraded to WM6. Due too "illegal" software on my phone it bounced at the service with a message that my warranty is not valid.
How can i downgrade my phone back to WM5?
Depending on your country/network, you may find an original WM5 rom on Wiki... this problem have ocurred a few times already, so do some searching... there's other threads out there on the subject already
search first then ask
PLZ search first then ask. Several times members discuss this issue.
READ and READ all about downgrade 2 WM5
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26
good luck
You have posted this same question in TWO THREADS! Quit being such a ****wit and actually SEARCH and READ!!!
LegolasTheElf said:
You have posted this same question in TWO THREADS! Quit being such a ****wit and actually SEARCH and READ!!!
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If you can't control your language stay off the Forum.
The The Trailer Park or the Jerry Springfield show is where that talk belongs - not here.
This is my second warning to you.
You constant barrage of swearing is more irritating than the Noob's stupid questions.
basilrsa said:
If you can't control your language stay off the Forum.
The The Trailer Park or the Jerry Springfield show is where that talk belongs - not here.
This is my second warning to you.
You constant barrage of swearing is more irritating than the Noob's stupid questions.
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My "second" warning? You mean you're cross-posting between threads like a n00b? Come on, actually engage your BRAIN before you post this type of drivel.
LegolasTheElf said:
My "second" warning? You mean you're cross-posting between threads like a n00b? Come on, actually engage your BRAIN before you post this type of drivel.
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I brought my Legolas secret decoder ring today... and what lego really meant to say is this " Your right, my language was offensive and i apologize, i would like to hop the first plane so that we can kiss make up!"
@lego.. play nice or i will edit your post's again i didnt do it this time but its a warning.. im watching you...
Now play nice people or dont play at all.... If you see a post that you feel is not intelligent or the OP didnt bother to search, then simply dont reply... IF no one replies it will force the OP to search for their answer...
fair thread plz
LegolasTheElf said:
You have posted this same question in TWO THREADS! Quit being such a ****wit and actually SEARCH and READ!!!
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Hi LegolasTheElf
If u mean me u r right, but not exact the same question.
Any how this thread for me is learning & updating my knowledge.
I learned me & just wane share my experience with another friends.
Thanx for your very nice word choice
I think members like Lego think they're doing people a favour by making such comments and that people will agree or praise them for their intervention, but as a member previously stated; it's more irritating and forum ban worthy than newbies just not bothering to search.
MrSmith22 said:
I think members like Lego think they're doing people a favour by making such comments and that people will agree or praise them for their intervention, but as a member previously stated; it's more irritating and forum ban worthy than newbies just not bothering to search.
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Odd, a quick scan of your 16 posts reveals that you've called people idiots, laughed at them, and a few other niceties. It's so nice to know that the people throwing stones at me at so pure of heart themselves.
All i want to say is thaT the guy who sent of his phone for repair with Wm6 on it, is an idiot. It wouldnt surprise me if M$ went after you. And as far as legolas i dont think he's that bad. Maybe the way hes acting will deter noobs away and prevent them from posting useless threads and force them to start using the search button more often. . But anyways hope everyone is having an awesome day
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and force them to start using the search button more often. . But anyways hope everyone is having an awesome day
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Hi dev
He answered me by this kind of words and heard me cos I just said “search then ask” #3
So I don’t know what’s wrong with this. NOW CALM DOWN and just go on friends
What the heck is this place coming to?
basilrsa said:
If you can't control your language stay off the Forum.
The The Trailer Park or the Jerry Springfield show is where that talk belongs - not here.
This is my second warning to you.
You constant barrage of swearing is more irritating than the Noob's stupid questions.
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Thank you, basilrsa. Hope there's a substantial 3-strike penalty.
LegolasTheElf said:
Odd, a quick scan of your 16 posts reveals that you've called people idiots, laughed at them, and a few other niceties. It's so nice to know that the people throwing stones at me at so pure of heart themselves.
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Err... I called one person an idiot for making a joke which I thought was funny. The other posts were about people like you. Quit whining.
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I brought my Legolas secret decoder ring today... and what lego really meant to say is this " Your right, my language was offensive and i apologize, i would like to hop the first plane so that we can kiss make up!"
@lego.. play nice or i will edit your post's again i didnt do it this time but its a warning.. im watching you...
Now play nice people or dont play at all.... If you see a post that you feel is not intelligent or the OP didnt bother to search, then simply dont reply... IF no one replies it will force the OP to search for their answer...
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Thanks Shogunmark,
I really think it's time for an overhaul of this Forum.
This Forum should be representative of decent individuals who know how to behave.
Should the Moderators not start taking strict control of the postings on the various threads, XDA-Developers will loose credibility and become a circus.
Stupid questions must simply be removed and misbehavers banned.
I for one would not like to be associated with the kind of behaviour that certain senior members display.
@pvs - Thanks
@devius- A foul mouther never solved a problem
@MrSmith - Agreed
NOW LET'S STICK TO THE RULES OF COMMON DECENCY
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Thanks Shogunmark,
I really think it's time for an overhaul of this Forum.
This Forum should be representative of decent individuals who know how to behave.
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Good. I agree. The n00bs should leave, and you with them. Go to HoFo or some other dumb site where everyone can have a great love-in and chat about all the different ways you can change your wallpaper, and how the Telco's charge you to change the wallpaper, because, well, it must be true because they sell it themselves online!
I'm not interested in group-think and silliness like this. The true thinkers understand the issue. All the little sheep on here that can't see past the drivel that's been force-fed to them by the state, the church, or whatever the hell nonsense you're believing, don't see it as an issue. They also don't see their actions as selfless. No, not selfless in the common sense. But in the sense that they have lost their sense of self. It's no longer decent for me to attack them, but it is decent for them to waste everyone's time by not searching themselves.
Everyone on here that is screaming that I and others like me are doing something wrong, while essentially condoning the actions of those who have no respect for anyone else, have got it wrong. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that you, the whining masses, telling me that I am doing something wrong, are the victims here. Victimized not by me or the noobs, but, by the very nature of society that says that it is better to be polite than to be honest. That it is far more valuable to be a sheep than a leader. Take a few seconds to think about what I'm writing, not merely to dismiss it. You'll see I'm right. You may disagree with the method, but, you can't disagree with the opinion.
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Thanks Shogunmark,
I really think it's time for an overhaul of this Forum.
This Forum should be representative of decent individuals who know how to behave.
Should the Moderators not start taking strict control of the postings on the various threads, XDA-Developers will loose credibility and become a circus.
Stupid questions must simply be removed and misbehavers banned.
I for one would not like to be associated with the kind of behaviour that certain senior members display.
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Or you COULD do what I've begun doing. The forums have a neat feature called an "Ignore List". Mine currently has three individuals who have earned acceptance status, and yes, a couple of them are sadly regular contributors and senior members.
I also boycott their threads, and thus, I rarely see any of their posts. The only time it happens is when somebody Quotes their childish vitriol in his/her own posts.
Shogunmark has the best solution to the underlying problem, though. Simply DON'T ANSWER any ridiculous posts that show no-effort on the part of the poster. If you ignore something, it tends to go away. But any response (even a negative one) tends to be a positive reinforcer for the behavior you're trying to reduce.
At any rate, bringing the entire forum's professionalism down by showing how many four-letter words your can string into a sentence is not the solution. But as the members who practice this are limited in number and predictable, the Ignore Lists work a treat.
-pvs
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Thank you, basilrsa. Hope there's a substantial 3-strike penalty.
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I agree. Definately. The third useless and irrelevant post made by a n00b on the same question should result in a ban.
Legolas,
You are right, the true thinkers do understand the issue. There are two issues though...the n00b questions and the pompous, intellectual snobs such as yourself who regularly ignore simple courtesies. If I wanted what is essentially verbal abuse, I'd go visit my in-laws.
I don't think anyone wants MORE n00b/repeated/irrelevent questions, but your delivery kills the message.
It's not better to be polite or honest but last time I checked, the two are not mutually exclusive.
I understand what the 10-post rule is for - it's to prevent really dumb questions getting in the way of productive work, in addition to preventing spam, obviously. But it can be a big problem for some people.
XDA is pretty much the only forum out there regarding the jailbreak for Windows RT. I'm working on some stuff, including a newly improved jailbreak, but I have no way to talk about it in these forums due to the 10-post rule. I'm a competent programmer who has been reverse engineering for many of her programming years, but can't find anyone to talk to about it. It's clear that I can make some contribution to the RT jailbreak community, as small as it is.
As for trying to get to 10 posts, how can I do that? I have an iPhone, not an Android. I don't know anything at all about Android jailbreaking or flashing, nor would I have any questions to ask about it. The forums I can post to don't really talk about anything outside of Android devices.
By the way, I ported the open source Windows debug tool Process Hacker to Windows RT. Of course, the Process Hacker forum on SourceForge has forced moderation, and apparently their mods haven't been online in a week, so my posts from this weekend haven't showed up yet. Similar situation to here, I guess, except for a different cause.
As for why I'm posting this, well, this is post number 4 out of 10...
You could try pm'ing a senior mod stating and proving that you are a dev and they might lift that restriction off you. But i don't know how long they might take to process that.
Just go to offtopic forum and post anything you want
Hit thanks if I have helped
caponer said:
Just go to offtopic forum and post anything you want
Hit thanks if I have helped
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Nope, its wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773593
Myriachan said:
I understand what the 10-post rule is for - it's to prevent really dumb questions getting in the way of productive work, in addition to preventing spam, obviously. But it can be a big problem for some people.
XDA is pretty much the only forum out there regarding the jailbreak for Windows RT. I'm working on some stuff, including a newly improved jailbreak, but I have no way to talk about it in these forums due to the 10-post rule. I'm a competent programmer who has been reverse engineering for many of her programming years, but can't find anyone to talk to about it. It's clear that I can make some contribution to the RT jailbreak community, as small as it is.
As for trying to get to 10 posts, how can I do that? I have an iPhone, not an Android. I don't know anything at all about Android jailbreaking or flashing, nor would I have any questions to ask about it. The forums I can post to don't really talk about anything outside of Android devices.
By the way, I ported the open source Windows debug tool Process Hacker to Windows RT. Of course, the Process Hacker forum on SourceForge has forced moderation, and apparently their mods haven't been online in a week, so my posts from this weekend haven't showed up yet. Similar situation to here, I guess, except for a different cause.
As for why I'm posting this, well, this is post number 4 out of 10...
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A lot of us understand the issue you are posing here. I'm a Windows programmer, but I still had to follow the 10 post rule too. All of us did. There is a forum somewhere, lord knows there are plenty here, where you can post to help someone else out. I didn't know hardly anything about Android when I signed up here at XDA, but I did manage to contribute, and with out complaining about the rules. And now, a year later, I'm a Recognized Contributor. So, it's not that hard.
Rules are rules. Whether here, or out in the real world, they still stand.
coolsandie said:
Nope, its wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773593
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No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
caponer said:
No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
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Actually brother, you're wrong. You may barley be a Senior Member, but myself and coolsandie are RC's. I think it's time for you to reread the rules.
caponer said:
No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
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I just LOLed. And I never LOL. Did you read the link? Or is there some type of "best buddie" joke going on here?
thewadegeek said:
I just LOLed. And I never LOL. Did you read the link? Or is there some type of "best buddie" joke going on here?
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Check out his post history. This is why people want the number to be higher.
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shinobisoft said:
Actually brother, you're wrong. You may barley be a Senior Member, but myself and coolsandie are RC's. I think it's time for you to reread the rules.
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Oh yea baby, RC is next on my list
caponer said:
No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
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I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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caponer said:
Oh yea baby, RC is next on my list
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Well if those are you're intentions, this isn't the way to get there. Best of luck...
@conantroutman
I'm outta Thanks for the day. I'll get ya tomorrow
conantroutman said:
I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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I believe the words of mtm apply here
DOOOOOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEET!1!!!!1111!1!1!!11
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---------- Post added at 02:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 PM ----------
And op, you're at 10 now. 3 of your posts were spent btching about the rule. Good job. I hope you feel you have contributed to the forum by complaining about a simple request that is made that you make 10 useful posts before posting in the dev area.
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we all know the side effects of the rule. no need for noobs to drone on about it
conantroutman said:
I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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Oh, please do.
The person who reads too much and uses his brain too little will fall into lazy habits of thinking.
—Albert Einstein
conantroutman said:
I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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Resisting temptations is the sign of good people
Man I like this forum but don't at the same time.. I love the fact there's so much stuff on here that's so helpful to everyone but at the same time the people on here are 50/50 meaning about 50% you are nice and do realize a beginner has to start somewhere and learn as they go and are willing to help as much as possible you also realize you were once there yourselfs mean while there's the other 50% forget they where beginners and noobs at one point and still think that everyone shouldn't ask questions and automatically think you know the answer as well as give rude and smart butt answers or links... uncalled for is about the best way to describe those answers its amazing that the admin allow these people to give rude and uncalled for comments but when someone responds with a rude or smart butt comment that person either gets a warning or banned and the other person gets nothing kind of interesting to me .... everyone should be treated fairly and evenly .. but had to say something from a lot of posts I've been reading
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I'm probably one of those guys that sometimes gives snarky responses. I really am trying to be nice and help the person find what they are looking for. That's 90% of the reason I post on here: I remember what it's like to not know much and to come to this community with very little knowledge.
That being said, I also hope people would follow the rules when posting, one of which is to search before starting a thread. I completely understand the complaints of people saying that there's too many threads on this site and it's difficult to find what you're looking for with search, but making a thread that's identical to an existing one is compounding the problem.
The way I try to help out with the problem is to take the time to write out a full response (not just give a link) and to (hopefully gently) point out that this topic has been covered and to look at the correct thread. I know Cnexus and I have been pretty good about this, although sometimes the deluge of MB1 update threads do make me a little short-tempered, and for that, I apologize.
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You fine man I understand the rules and read them so I know personally to search before asking and when posting make sure its in the right section.... as far as posting links example I was referring to about smart butt links is the google one I've notice is when you click on link takes you to google it automatically writes in the question the person would ask then at bottom it would say " now was that so hard " kinda funny but smart butt to I'm its a simple question that person could of easily just said hey man look please go read the forum rules and make sure you post in the right section simple and nicely said you know
But yes it is annoying when people ask / post same stuff that's been posted already 400 times before them again people should just be nice " hey man that question / concern / opinion has been posted already please search google and forums thank you "
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otterboxfan4l said:
You fine man I understand the rules and read them so I know personally to search before asking and when posting make sure its in the right section.... as far as posting links example I was referring to about smart butt links is the google one I've notice is when you click on link takes you to google it automatically writes in the question the person would ask then at bottom it would say " now was that so hard " kinda funny but smart butt to I'm its a simple question that person could of easily just said hey man look please go read the forum rules and make sure you post in the right section simple and nicely said you know
But yes it is annoying when people ask / post same stuff that's been posted already 400 times before them again people should just be nice " hey man that question / concern / opinion has been posted already please search google and forums thank you "
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I know that the user is traditionally at fault (the old IT adage of PBMAC - the Problem Between Monitor and Chair), but I also think it's partially the fault of the xda app on the phone. The search function on there is so woefully inept that I have only used it once or twice (and have never found what I was looking for). On the other hand, when creating a thread on the PC, the website even gives you a list of similar threads that might help you out. There are many times where I've been creating a thread and when I put in the title, a half dozen similar threads popped up with the exact answer I was looking for. I know coding this into the android app would be difficult (if not impossible), but it must be noted that almost all of the MB1 update threads had the "sent from the XDA app..." tag at the bottom. I still tell them to search before posting, but I honestly can't blame them because of the apps search function's shortcomings.
Hi
To respond to the first part about allowing abuse...we don't. But bear in mind we have 5 milllion users, 50000 new posts a day and moderators that are constantly moving questions from the wrong section, breaking up childish nerd fights, responding to reported posts, investigating kang issues, and trying to have a job, family and life. We are not reading every post that enters XDA. We respond to reports by users. And every mod action requires several minutes of "paperwork" to document what was done.
Now to the post about searching, yup app search stinks, however if you switch to browser view there are more search options available as well as googling and adding XDA in the search parameter. The phone is quite large so searching through browser view or just with google is a lot easier than in days past.
In most cases like with football, the person throwing the last punch draws the penalty. It takes 2 to argue but just one is needed to keep it going.
Thanks
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
I don't care about noob questions. what make me mad is when there is 5 "what is the best rom" threads on the first page. Stuff that you could easily flip through a couple pages and find an answer to is what angers me.
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CrfEpic4g said:
I don't care about noob questions. what make me mad is when there is 5 "what is the best rom" threads on the first page. Stuff that you could easily flip through a couple pages and find an answer to is what angers me.
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I agree. I hate that question just for the fact what I like you may not like. Just take a hand full of roms and test them out. Lol
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Dude..........
otterboxfan4l said:
Man I like this forum but don't at the same time.. I love the fact there's so much stuff on here that's so helpful to everyone but at the same time the people on here are 50/50 meaning about 50% you are nice and do realize a beginner has to start somewhere and learn as they go and are willing to help as much as possible you also realize you were once there yourselfs mean while there's the other 50% forget they where beginners and noobs at one point and still think that everyone shouldn't ask questions and automatically think you know the answer as well as give rude and smart butt answers or links... uncalled for is about the best way to describe those answers its amazing that the admin allow these people to give rude and uncalled for comments but when someone responds with a rude or smart butt comment that person either gets a warning or banned and the other person gets nothing kind of interesting to me .... everyone should be treated fairly and evenly .. but had to say something from a lot of posts I've been reading
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The only thing I find aggravating here or ANY forum is the word "respect". Much respect......have respect......yo bro respect to this guy or that guy! What freakin ever! We aren't 1% bikers here. So why are we throwing that word in every sentence. We are all men amongst men(or women). Respect is a given. Let's quit with the manzy panzy complaints and start tweaking our phones to the fullest.
Just my two cents.......do I need a paypal for that? LMAO!]
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Hi
To respond to the first part about allowing abuse...we don't. But bear in mind we have 5 milllion users, 50000 new posts a day and moderators that are constantly moving questions from the wrong section, breaking up childish nerd fights, responding to reported posts, investigating kang issues, and trying to have a job, family and life. We are not reading every post that enters XDA. We respond to reports by users. And every mod action requires several minutes of "paperwork" to document what was done.
Now to the post about searching, yup app search stinks, however if you switch to browser view there are more search options available as well as googling and adding XDA in the search parameter. The phone is quite large so searching through browser view or just with google is a lot easier than in days past.
In most cases like with football, the person throwing the last punch draws the penalty. It takes 2 to argue but just one is needed to keep it going.
Thanks
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
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Do you mods get paid by XDA or something? Lol I always wondered that...
Joe0113 said:
Do you mods get paid by XDA or something? Lol I always wondered that...
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No, its a volunteer system basically :beer:
jpgranger said:
If I may, I think we are all big boys and girls on this website. I would never take anything said here offensively. I will forget about all of you as soon as I log off.
The only thing I find aggravating here or ANY forum is the word "respect". Much respect......have respect......yo bro respect to this guy or that guy! What freakin ever! We aren't 1% bikers here. So why are we throwing that word in every sentence. We are all men amongst men(or women). Respect is a given. Let's quit with the manzy panzy complaints and start tweaking our phones to the fullest.
Just my two cents.......do I need a paypal for that? LMAO!]
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You say that, but you'd be surprised at some of the things I see posted here every day
And its difficult NOT to take offense when you find your mental capacity, ability to do something, or your integrity insulted. And the majority of the time, people will attack one of above
Joe0113 said:
Do you mods get paid by XDA or something? Lol I always wondered that...
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The only payment they get is that lovely thanks button at the bottom of every post.
Oh forgot about the most important perk of being a mod
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The only payment they get is that lovely thanks button at the bottom of every post.
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This^
Joe0113 said:
Do you mods get paid by XDA or something? Lol I always wondered that...
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Bwahahaha! Thanks for that laugh!
No. All volunteer because we care about the site and helping others.
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
What's frustrating is all of these rule quoters that do nothing but add to the spam. Just answer the question then point them in the right direction or just ignore the post...
There is a saying you can led a horse to water but you can't force them to drink. But if can shoot the f*cker if he is too stubborn
I know sometimes when I was new to this forum (i am not a developer), I would get irritated when posting a question and you would see a lot of "views" but no replies/posts with any help. But you have to realize (as I did), as smart as these guys are, sometimes, nobody knows the answer to your question! So posting "crickets crickets" or something else snarky to that effect won't help you get an answer either. Most people are nice enough to help and will either post a link that you may have overlooked, or a real answer (or at least acknowledge your existence)...so in that case just be patient for an answer. Alot of the times when you google search, maybe you did not type in just the right terms and didn't get the link you were looking for.
otterboxfan4l said:
Man I like this forum but don't at the same time.. I love the fact there's so much stuff on here that's so helpful to everyone but at the same time the people on here are 50/50 meaning about 50% you are nice and do realize a beginner has to start somewhere and learn as they go and are willing to help as much as possible you also realize you were once there yourselfs mean while there's the other 50% forget they where beginners and noobs at one point and still think that everyone shouldn't ask questions and automatically think you know the answer as well as give rude and smart butt answers or links... uncalled for is about the best way to describe those answers its amazing that the admin allow these people to give rude and uncalled for comments but when someone responds with a rude or smart butt comment that person either gets a warning or banned and the other person gets nothing kind of interesting to me .... everyone should be treated fairly and evenly .. but had to say something from a lot of posts I've been reading
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Ok I'm going to be the other "other" 50% whose pet peeves is when people author forum posts with little to no punctuation, commas, apostrophes, structure, periods, capitalization, etc.
LordLugard said:
Ok I'm going to be the other "other" 50% whose pet peeves is when people author forum posts with little to no punctuation, commas, apostrophes, structure, periods, capitalization, etc.
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Lol i thought that was just me
otterboxfan4l said:
as far as posting links example I was referring to about smart butt links is the google one I've notice is when you click on link takes you to google it automatically writes in the question the person would ask then at bottom it would say " now was that so hard " kinda funny but smart butt to I'm its a simple question that person could of easily just said hey man look please go read the forum rules and make sure you post in the right section simple and nicely said you know
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So it bothers you that they held your hand instead of spoon feeding you the answer? Talk about first world problems... If they were really being anal about the rules then that link would take you to www.google.com and you'd be on your own for the search terms - be grateful that they held your hand as much as they did
Ascertion said:
What's frustrating is all of these rule quoters that do nothing but add to the spam. Just answer the question then point them in the right direction or just ignore the post...
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If we just answer the question, we encourage further infractions... It would be kind of like banks taking a policy of giving money to anyone who threatens to rob the bank - we would have more robbers, not less...
Ignoring them almost inevitably leads to more noise from them, not less, so that won't fix their broken understanding of the rules...
But if we add to that spam now, there is a chance that someday, maybe it will end... It isn't likely, but I would rather have the rules on my side
I don't enable people to hide behind excuses - every search on the Internet isn't broken, they just require a little effort (almost as much effort as creating a new post, lol)
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styles420 said:
So it bothers you that they held your hand instead of spoon feeding you the answer? Talk about first world problems... If they were really being anal about the rules then that link would take you to www.google.com and you'd be on your own for the search terms - be grateful that they held your hand as much as they did
If we just answer the question, we encourage further infractions... It would be kind of like banks taking a policy of giving money to anyone who threatens to rob the bank - we would have more robbers, not less...
Ignoring them almost inevitably leads to more noise from them, not less, so that won't fix their broken understanding of the rules...
But if we add to that spam now, there is a chance that someday, maybe it will end... It isn't likely, but I would rather have the rules on my side
I don't enable people to hide behind excuses - every search on the Internet isn't broken, they just require a little effort (almost as much effort as creating a new post, lol)
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How about just showing people how well searching works and provide them proof of it's efficiency by linking them to your search results. This both; enlightens the user of search functionality, while also assisting them with their question.
Should we communicate new ideas and attempts via PMS or email? Did someone have an open thread elsewhere on xda? I check multiple times daily and have been attempting to learn and contribute. .since I am a noob I am typically quiet but I am down to test fur people if need be.
Dude dont even try it , leave it alone , to many emotional people in xda
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GabrielOspina said:
Dude dont even try it , leave it alone , to many emotional people in xda
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This is a legitimate question for the q/a forum...if they choose to lock it that is their prerogative. I have never made any trouble on this site...there is little reason. This post is not meantt to be inflammatory, I just genuinely want to know if XDAS part in our quest for root is over or not...I am not breaking any forum rules in posting this.
So do people still plan to work on the note 4 using this forum or is there somewhere else I should be focusing my attention to?
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Should we communicate new ideas and attempts via PMS or email? Did someone have an open thread elsewhere on xda? I check multiple times daily and have been attempting to learn and contribute. .since I am a noob I am typically quiet but I am down to test fur people if need be.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59056078&postcount=4
Because of the nonsense that goes on in root threads, no developer in their right mind will post any efforts in one of the threads in General. This is why developers have taken their efforts off of XDA and in private chats...and now no one learns anything here.
And no, you are not breaking rules by asking but you opened a thread where all the non-helping people from the other threads will have a place to go. So I am sure they will be quite proud to post something here to get this locked too.
Now Root will never be achieved, sadly.
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Now Root will never be achieved, sadly.
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Yes. Because closing a thread full of people with nothing better to do than post "are we there yet" and then start flaming each other will totally stop all work on root. Smh....I guess you didn't even bother to read my post above.
Wasnt their a bunch of devs in that thread finding exploits ??? Guess they are pming
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Wasnt their a bunch of devs in that thread finding exploits ??? Guess they are pming
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As Kenny stated here. This is the best course to take. We know most of you guys think we are being jerks, but the bottom line is that thread is/was and would continue to be out of hand. Just because that thread is locked for now, does not mean devs are going to stop collaborating and find a method.
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Yes. Because closing a thread full of people with nothing better to do than post "are we there yet" and then start flaming each other will totally stop all work on root. Smh....I guess you didn't even bother to read my post above.
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Whoa, excuse me . I read your post and found no value in it. I merely made a statement (not even remotely regarding your profound post.) We paid a substantial amount of money for this phone. I also paid for the stupid XDA premium app to support the XDA community. I also have contributed much money to many devs in the past for previous phones I've owned. I believe I have a right to be kept in the know. Whether the know is what exploit developers are using to find root or useless banter from idiotic foreigners and newbs who have no idea what is going on is completely regardless. It's a public forum. The thread was posted in the general section. There was no warning in the title that it was a "Dev thread only." It wasn't just the idiots who were posting dumb comments, it was a lot of the ATT Note 4 Community that would post 4-5 replies after the "are we there yet?" posts that got the thread shut down. I enjoyed the thread, I learned a lot about exploits that I wouldn't have ever thought to research on my own. It was purely entertainment for me and it was taken away because the moderation can never handle anything properly.
Bridge is closed, troll. Go shake your head somewhere else. Nomsayin?
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Whoa, excuse me . I read your post and found no value in it. I merely made a statement (not even remotely regarding your profound post.) We paid a substantial amount of money for this phone. I also paid for the stupid XDA premium app to support the XDA community. I also have contributed much money to many devs in the past for previous phones I've owned. I believe I have a right to be kept in the know. Whether the know is what exploit developers are using to find root or useless banter from idiotic foreigners and newbs who have no idea what is going on is completely regardless. It's a public forum. The thread was posted in the general section. There was no warning in the title that it was a "Dev thread only." It wasn't just the idiots who were posting dumb comments, it was a lot of the ATT Note 4 Community that would post 4-5 replies after the "are we there yet?" posts that got the thread shut down. I enjoyed the thread, I learned a lot about exploits that I wouldn't have ever thought to research on my own. It was purely entertainment for me and it was taken away because the moderation can never handle anything properly.
Bridge is closed, troll. Go shake your head somewhere else. Nomsayin?
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First off as Senior Moderator and Team Leader of this section, I AM NO TROLL! You certainly failed to comprehend my post and have some reading comprehension problems. YOUR post had absolutely no value and made no sense that a closed troll filled thread would stop you from getting root! Wow...just wow.
Now if you had read my post correctly I stated there IS an area for developers ONLY where people can see what is going on and not disturb the developers with useless posts like "Now we will never get root" or "Are we there yet". Try reading the original post a few times...then before you respond read it again. Feel free to take this to PM with me if you have any more criticisms of the avenues presented on this PRIVATE membership only development forum.
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First off as Senior Moderator and Team Leader of this section, I AM NO TROLL! You certainly failed to comprehend my post and have some reading comprehension problems. YOUR post had absolutely no value and made no sense that a closed troll filled thread would stop you from getting root! Wow...just wow.
Now if you had read my post correctly I stated there IS an area for developers ONLY where people can see what is going on and not disturb the developers with useless posts like "Now we will never get root" or "Are we there yet". Try reading the original post a few times...then before you respond read it again. Feel free to take this to PM with me if you have any more criticisms of the avenues presented on this PRIVATE membership only development forum.
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Private?! OK buddy. I could have 4 accounts to this "private" forum in 5 mins. You guys give any moron a membership. You guys even made it easier for morons to join by making them watch a video rather than actually reading the rules before signing up. This is dumb. I have lost interest in all doings on this forum. Thanks for the boost of support from the Mod team. Did you have to watch a video before becoming a mod? Cheers.
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Private?! OK buddy. I could have 4 accounts to this "private" forum in 5 mins. You guys give any moron a membership. You guys even made it easier for morons to join by making them watch a video rather than actually reading the rules before signing up. This is dumb. I have lost interest in all doings on this forum. Thanks for the boost of support from the Mod team. Did you have to watch a video before becoming a mod? Cheers.
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Actually yes we do. And please read those rules you so reverently talked about. Having more than one account is a rule violation.
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Private?! OK buddy. I could have 4 accounts to this "private" forum in 5 mins. You guys give any moron a membership. You guys even made it easier for morons to join by making them watch a video rather than actually reading the rules before signing up. This is dumb. I have lost interest in all doings on this forum. Thanks for the boost of support from the Mod team. Did you have to watch a video before becoming a mod? Cheers.
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Man I usually don't post but **** I am so glad your gone. Best wishes
Wow...well you were right about having a place for people to cry...I was genuinely looking for a place to go keep learning and hopefully obtaining root...if you want to stop and close this thread I approve. No need for mods and users to be fighting and disrespecting eachother. I will continue my pursuit in other threads this one is finished for me.
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Hi I am a note 7 owner that has made it through all this mess wwith my device rooted and charging 100 percent.I am reaching out to find out if anyone has any options on changing device information so carrier can not see. I have researched imei all imei changers are temporary is there any that are more permanent. I Also also would like to know if there is any way to change all other Info device I'd. The serial I have another device that is not a note 7 to swap it with it is a device u previously own any help would be greatly appreciated there are a lot of people looking for answers to this if you had some help thanks again
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Hi I am a note 7 owner that has made it through all this mess wwith my device rooted and charging 100 percent.I am reaching out to find out if anyone has any options on changing device information so carrier can not see. I have researched imei all imei changers are temporary is there any that are more permanent. I Also also would like to know if there is any way to change all other Info device I'd. The serial I have another device that is not a note 7 to swap it with it is a device u previously own any help would be greatly appreciated there are a lot of people looking for answers to this if you had some help thanks again
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Be advised, most of the stuff is illegal [emoji12] they might ended the thread.
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I have checked on the law it is only illegal in america if your device is stolen or your using it to do something illegsl
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garyinskeep1 said:
I have checked on the law it is only illegal in america if your device is stolen or your using it to do something illegsl
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Perhaps, but it's illegal in many other countries and this is an international forum is it not? Personally, I think banning any such discussion is too heavy handed based on the fact that it is NOT illegal everywhere. But the mods/site owner has taken a different view.
So are you saying nobody can answer or the mods wont let anyone answer
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So are you saying nobody can answer or the mods wont let anyone answer
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The latter. No such discussion is allowed on the forum.
I appologies not my intent to cause any problems not doing aything to harm anyone.I am not doinv anything illegal thank You was not aware will not be brought up here again have a good day and thanks for the great website
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Perhaps, but it's illegal in many other countries and this is an international forum is it not? Personally, I think banning any such discussion is too heavy handed based on the fact that it is NOT illegal everywhere. But the mods/site owner has taken a different view.
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Ok, question, is there "Freedom of Speech" in the country where the xdadevelopers servers are located?
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Ok, question, is there "Freedom of Speech" in the country where the xdadevelopers servers are located?
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What are you asking me for? It's got nothing to do with me. I just visit here, I don't make the rules
Maybe you should PM one of the mods, or raise this on another board or thread?
This is a common misconception, there is no "Freedom of Speech" outside of the government trying to restrict it. This forum is provided by a company who make rules about whatever is discussed here, this applies to all other social communities as well such as Facebook, Tumbler, Twitter, etc. They can make whatever rules they like, ban people for breaking them, delete posts that break the guidelines etc, and you have zero recourse other than leaving the group.
I'm fine with it like I said sorry for posting will no happen again was just looking for information did not mean to stir anything up will not ask about it again. I respect your decision. Thanks again
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I'm fine with it like I said sorry for posting will no happen again was just looking for information did not mean to stir anything up will not ask about it again. I respect your decision. Thanks again
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I don't think you will have upset anyone mate. Chill
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Ok, question, is there "Freedom of Speech" in the country where the xdadevelopers servers are located?
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this is a bit of a pointless comment, freedom of speech is a lie people like to believe, as soon as you enter private premises (web sites fall under the same heading) you have to follow the "house rules" so you may have freedom of speech by local law but the rules of the establishment they can kick you out and ban you for saying the wrong thing. as the people who own/run these establishments are held acountable for what they allow in their establishment, so really freedom of speech is nothing more than an idea used to make people think they have the right to say what they want, if there truly was freedom of speech there would never need to be a language rating on TV and Movies as people would have the right to say what they want when they want. it's the same as you wouldn't be able to be prosecuted for things like racial abuse as freedom of speech would protect your right to voice your opinion on those groups.
funny part is there is info on doing this so google play will see your phone as a different phone so you can download more apps but we cant help someone out that wants to use his phone and not show what he is using. Great.. Who ever asked the main question just search for the info by looking on how to change your phones info to download stuff i dont know if that will work but i hope it does.
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funny part is there is info on doing this so google play will see your phone as a different phone so you can download more apps but we cant help someone out that wants to use his phone and not show what he is using. Great.. Who ever asked the main question just search for the info by looking on how to change your phones info to download stuff i dont know if that will work but i hope it does.
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It's a completely different thing though.
Changing the phone "type" so that you can download different apps, is not contentious and doesn't have any sinister undertones. Changing the IMEI is what criminals will try to do with a stolen phone. Blocking the IMEI number on the network is the only way the network operators have to block stolen phones. That's why it's illegal in most territories, because it's synonymous with criminal activity. Yes there are non-criminal circumstances where a genuine user may wish to change the IMEI number for his phone, but they are usually out of luck. I'd like to own a hand gun here in the UK, but I am out of luck with that too!
Discussion of changing IMEI is prohibited on XDA.
Freedom of speech does not apply here as this is a private site operating under its own rules and guidelines.
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