Unintended side effects of 10 post rule - About xda-developers.com

I understand what the 10-post rule is for - it's to prevent really dumb questions getting in the way of productive work, in addition to preventing spam, obviously. But it can be a big problem for some people.
XDA is pretty much the only forum out there regarding the jailbreak for Windows RT. I'm working on some stuff, including a newly improved jailbreak, but I have no way to talk about it in these forums due to the 10-post rule. I'm a competent programmer who has been reverse engineering for many of her programming years, but can't find anyone to talk to about it. It's clear that I can make some contribution to the RT jailbreak community, as small as it is.
As for trying to get to 10 posts, how can I do that? I have an iPhone, not an Android. I don't know anything at all about Android jailbreaking or flashing, nor would I have any questions to ask about it. The forums I can post to don't really talk about anything outside of Android devices.
By the way, I ported the open source Windows debug tool Process Hacker to Windows RT. Of course, the Process Hacker forum on SourceForge has forced moderation, and apparently their mods haven't been online in a week, so my posts from this weekend haven't showed up yet. Similar situation to here, I guess, except for a different cause.
As for why I'm posting this, well, this is post number 4 out of 10...

You could try pm'ing a senior mod stating and proving that you are a dev and they might lift that restriction off you. But i don't know how long they might take to process that.

Just go to offtopic forum and post anything you want
Hit thanks if I have helped

caponer said:
Just go to offtopic forum and post anything you want
Hit thanks if I have helped
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Nope, its wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773593

Myriachan said:
I understand what the 10-post rule is for - it's to prevent really dumb questions getting in the way of productive work, in addition to preventing spam, obviously. But it can be a big problem for some people.
XDA is pretty much the only forum out there regarding the jailbreak for Windows RT. I'm working on some stuff, including a newly improved jailbreak, but I have no way to talk about it in these forums due to the 10-post rule. I'm a competent programmer who has been reverse engineering for many of her programming years, but can't find anyone to talk to about it. It's clear that I can make some contribution to the RT jailbreak community, as small as it is.
As for trying to get to 10 posts, how can I do that? I have an iPhone, not an Android. I don't know anything at all about Android jailbreaking or flashing, nor would I have any questions to ask about it. The forums I can post to don't really talk about anything outside of Android devices.
By the way, I ported the open source Windows debug tool Process Hacker to Windows RT. Of course, the Process Hacker forum on SourceForge has forced moderation, and apparently their mods haven't been online in a week, so my posts from this weekend haven't showed up yet. Similar situation to here, I guess, except for a different cause.
As for why I'm posting this, well, this is post number 4 out of 10...
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A lot of us understand the issue you are posing here. I'm a Windows programmer, but I still had to follow the 10 post rule too. All of us did. There is a forum somewhere, lord knows there are plenty here, where you can post to help someone else out. I didn't know hardly anything about Android when I signed up here at XDA, but I did manage to contribute, and with out complaining about the rules. And now, a year later, I'm a Recognized Contributor. So, it's not that hard.
Rules are rules. Whether here, or out in the real world, they still stand.

coolsandie said:
Nope, its wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773593
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No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work

caponer said:
No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
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Actually brother, you're wrong. You may barley be a Senior Member, but myself and coolsandie are RC's. I think it's time for you to reread the rules.

caponer said:
No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
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I just LOLed. And I never LOL. Did you read the link? Or is there some type of "best buddie" joke going on here?

thewadegeek said:
I just LOLed. And I never LOL. Did you read the link? Or is there some type of "best buddie" joke going on here?
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Check out his post history. This is why people want the number to be higher.
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shinobisoft said:
Actually brother, you're wrong. You may barley be a Senior Member, but myself and coolsandie are RC's. I think it's time for you to reread the rules.
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Oh yea baby, RC is next on my list

caponer said:
No you are, I am a senior member and I know how things work
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I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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caponer said:
Oh yea baby, RC is next on my list
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Well if those are you're intentions, this isn't the way to get there. Best of luck...
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I'm outta Thanks for the day. I'll get ya tomorrow

conantroutman said:
I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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I believe the words of mtm apply here
DOOOOOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEET!1!!!!1111!1!1!!11
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And op, you're at 10 now. 3 of your posts were spent btching about the rule. Good job. I hope you feel you have contributed to the forum by complaining about a simple request that is made that you make 10 useful posts before posting in the dev area.
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we all know the side effects of the rule. no need for noobs to drone on about it

conantroutman said:
I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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Oh, please do.
The person who reads too much and uses his brain too little will fall into lazy habits of thinking.
—Albert Einstein

conantroutman said:
I'm tempted to put you back to junior member because you clearly have no idea.
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I feel the same way, im an it tech, and consider myself to have pretty good knowledge on roms, rooting, etc. I recently have spent the pass couple of days testing the miui rom for the xperia x10, for trip. I can post and bugs or fixes that ive discovered cause i dont have enough posts. I have to go around looking for irrelevant forums just to be able to post something, which in probably can be considered spamming. I hope Xda finds a better convenient way of controlling spammers but it is unfair for actual techs/future devs.
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Add me to the list I'm to the point of using 2 or 3 different Rom parts to make my own yet can not post in the Android section
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I really don't know xda's policy on making special exceptions, but here's what I did and would recommend to all of you:
Do some charity work by heading over to Q&A and answering some questions people have. Lots of the people there are the newest of the noobs and could really use some help. If you feel qualified to post on dev forums, then you definitely have the skills necessary to solve many of the questions people have there.
Just my 2 cents
UpwardSpiral said:
I really don't know xda's policy on making special exceptions, but here's what I did and would recommend to all of you:
Do some charity work by heading over to Q&A and answering some questions people have. Lots of the people there are the newest of the noobs and could really use some help. If you feel qualified to post on dev forums, then you definitely have the skills necessary to solve many of the questions people have there.
Just my 2 cents
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This ^^^^^
If you make useful posts, then you will be able to post in dev... That's the precise purpose - it's to stop new users joining, and immediately asking questions in dev, or harassing devs for XYZ
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If I can prove that I know how to build the AOSP and know my way around Android builds, do I still have to follow the post limit. At the same token doesn't it require some knowledge of programming in general to be in the devs section. Is there a hidden forum for the real developers also? Anyway I am new here but appreciate everything deeply. The bootloader tools are really appreciated. I don't see much of fastboot or a shell with a linux mini shell like kboot. Maybe I'll post a few more random posts.
Oh come on guys, it's only 10 posts. How hard is it to post something useful or meaningful 10 times?
yea this sucks lol
Product F(RED) said:
Oh come on guys, it's only 10 posts. How hard is it to post something useful or meaningful 10 times?
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Exactly.
Meaningful posts are what counts.
Product F(RED) said:
Oh come on guys, it's only 10 posts. How hard is it to post something useful or meaningful 10 times?
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Your right its not a lot but if i've been reading the forums for months and just need to asking a quick question, it becomes a pain in the ass trying to get to 10 posts
arod404 said:
Your right its not a lot but if i've been reading the forums for months and just need to asking a quick question, it becomes a pain in the ass trying to get to 10 posts
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You just did.
arod404 said:
Your right its not a lot but if i've been reading the forums for months and just need to asking a quick question, it becomes a pain in the ass trying to get to 10 posts
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But your question belongs in Q&A, hence your point is moot.
Questions are not development and belong elsewhere
Do you think a thread for people to post the 10 replys would be deleted? x)
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Do you think a thread for people to post the 10 replys would be deleted? x)
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Yes. I do .

I can't post anywhere it is really annoying!!!

When can do my post anyone knows how i can close this post after i get my 10 posts that it requires me to put, I Put android and windows 7 on my phone and i have put android and wp7, i am not that new!
There was a 10 post limit put in place to prevent a lot of "noobs" posting questions in the development forums, which is the wrong place.
Once you get 10 posts, you can post in any forum. It won't take long to make 10 posts in other forums. We have an off-topic forum where you might be able to find some threads to reply in. It's a good place to start
Got already my 10 posts but still can´t post where ever i want.
I`m new member too, but I think Is good idea apply that rule.
i should get 10 posts as soon ss possible
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I`m new member too, but I think Is good idea apply that rule.
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I totally disagree. A 10 post limit is really rather lame since the noobs that need spoon feeding will post garbage to get to a 10 count, then unleash the hell that is typical of people who are too lazy to read first and ask questions later (don't even get me started on the Search function)
I also understand the irony that this my first post, and yes, its both to berate the noob community and the forum. My intended first post was to give feedback on the stability of CM7 stable in the Dev forum like the other 51 pages of comments, yet here I am, going through the bull**** hoop jumping to even post.
****ing makes my head hurt. FAIL.
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Thanks for the info
Enviado desde el Motorola Milestone 2
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
Hi just seeing if I can post here
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Go to your device support area and start helping people. You'll get to over ten posts in no time, and probably learn lots in the process.
reinbeau said:
Go to your device support area and start helping people. You'll get to over ten posts in no time, and probably learn lots in the process.
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This is good advice
zelenko said:
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
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I agree with you sir its a awful idea
I am unable to post in the dev threads after my 10 posts .. i understand the point of the limit but i merely want to post found bugs ..
Iv also seen people with alot more post who still ask very simple and stupid questions in these threads .. so that kind of defeats the purpouse of the limit ..
drotaru said:
I am unable to post in the dev threads after my 10 posts .. i understand the point of the limit but i merely want to post found bugs ..
Iv also seen people with alot more post who still ask very simple and stupid questions in these threads .. so that kind of defeats the purpouse of the limit ..
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IIRC the forum stats update every hour so it may take a little while after acheiving 10 posts before you can actually post........
Should be soon dont worry
Unfortunately your right, there are members with more than 10 posts who do not seem to be able to differentiate between a development forum and a Q&A forum...
However the 10 post rule has dramatically reduced the clutter in the development sections across the board, trust us on this.
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This is good advice
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I think the idea is to get people to go into the forums of their devices and actually READ SOME THREADS and maybe contribute to the discussion
zelenko said:
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
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nobs shouldn't be on xda anyways.
orangekid said:
nobs shouldn't be on xda anyways.
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So, you were never new, huh?
New people should read and learn and not post without searching, but no one should be saying they shouldn't be here. We were all new once.
Im Getting My 10 Posts In Now
10 posts ?
tbh
the 10 posts don't seem to deter clutter...
also, just coz you haven't posted 10 times doesn't necessarily mean you can't add value !
That the worst bit of resource management I've ever seen - a 'noob' may have something incredibly valuable to add - even if it's a 'dumb' question - it may provoke a non-noob into a new idea.
I have been on several forums - been on Linux, Ubuntu, Maemo devel ( hey they alrready got GB 2.3.3. running on an N900 ! ), Meego devel, iOS.... all can add value as essentially all based on same platform
..... - just wasting one of my 10 posts here as a noob !....
Serialk1llr said:
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I totally disagree. A 10 post limit is really rather lame since the noobs that need spoon feeding will post garbage to get to a 10 count, then unleash the hell that is typical of people who are too lazy to read first and ask questions later (don't even get me started on the Search function)
I also understand the irony that this my first post, and yes, its both to berate the noob community and the forum. My intended first post was to give feedback on the stability of CM7 stable in the Dev forum like the other 51 pages of comments, yet here I am, going through the bull**** hoop jumping to even post.
****ing makes my head hurt. FAIL.
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this!! i've been trying to download some files for a while and cant seem to find any threads to post in

[Q] Blocking PM usage to new members

Recently I've picked up on a trend where people are signing up to the site and then, without searching or reading the threads, they start to shoot off questions via PMs. Is there a way to ensure that new members do not have access to the PM function until they have a certain number of post of have been a member for a specific period of time (if you want to stop spam posting)?
Intratech said:
Recently I've picked up on a trend where people are signing up to the site and then, without searching or reading the threads, they start to shoot off questions via PMs. Is there a way to ensure that new members do not have access to the PM function until they have a certain number of post of have been a member for a specific period of time (if you want to stop spam posting)?
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I wish there were a way as well. I normally just have fun with them when I get a PM from someone who obviously didn't search or read. I've sent two users to lemon party dot com already.
So no reply from XDA?
If we extend the 10 post rule to PMs, that would probably increase the number of junk posts in other forums. The thinking is... "ok, I can't post in any development forum, and I can't PM anyone...I might as well inundate other sections with my question until I get a reply!"
...so, not sure it's the best solution.
How about the second suggestion then? They have to be a member for a certain period of time before the function is available to them?
Intratech said:
How about the second suggestion then? They have to be a member for a certain period of time before the function is available to them?
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I like tat this suggestion!! Set a Certain period of time.
But may I suggest, also implement 10 post. Of course with CAPTCHA implemented. (But implementing CAPTCHA, meant the WHOLE Global XDA posting will have CAPTCHA, will end up a GLOBAL Panic for DEV)
cajunflavoredbob said:
I wish there were a way as well. I normally just have fun with them when I get a PM from someone who obviously didn't search or read. I've sent two users to lemon party dot com already.
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LMAO!
I do know a pretty annoying Rickroll site that could be useful for this.
svetius said:
If we extend the 10 post rule to PMs, that would probably increase the number of junk posts in other forums. The thinking is... "ok, I can't post in any development forum, and I can't PM anyone...I might as well inundate other sections with my question until I get a reply!"
...so, not sure it's the best solution.
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I totally agree. The Q&A and General forums are getting inundated with "I can't post in the dev threads" questions. It's made matters worse. I think new users should be able to post in dev forums, but not create a thread their own in there.
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LMAO!
I do know a pretty annoying Rickroll site that could be useful for this.
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Do tell
johncmolyneux said:
I totally agree. The Q&A and General forums are getting inundated with "I can't post in the dev threads" questions. It's made matters worse. I think new users should be able to post in dev forums, but not create a thread their own in there.
Do tell
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This one is a bit annoying

Are the posting restrictions too strict?

For a long time I've been a 'silent' reader of the XDA-Forum.
Today I wanted to post a question in the development section of a phone. Therefore I registered a new account for me, but unfortunately I was unable to post the question, as there is a restriction saying you need 10 posts before you were allowed to post in a development section.
As the question is quite important to me, I made up my mind and thought: well, then I've to write 10 posts in different forums, so I'm able to post the original question - does that make sense, I guess not?
Luckily I hit another restriction - as a new user you are only allowed to post every 5 minutes
So the question is, is it really necessary to have these strict posting restrictions (10 posts) on the development section?
You would be amazed by the amount of spammers and random posts we got away by these rules.
Well if you have a question it needs to go in the q/a section for your device. The development section is only for development, this is why the rules are in place to try and prevent stuff being posted in the wrong section
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Once you are past the restrictions, you'll find you can do anything. The reason for these restrictions is because the overarching majority of users who are new here refuse to follow the rules on posting. Therefore, the best way to deal with this is to restrict new users from posting in development areas, as these are the places new users tend to abuse with questions or stupid comments.
Once you're past the restrictions you'll find it's OK
oliman99 said:
...I wanted to post a question in the development section of a phone. Therefore I registered a new account for me, but unfortunately I was unable to post the question, as there is a restriction saying you need 10 posts before you were allowed to post in a development section.?
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This is exactly why these restrictions are in place. It is useful when joining a site to learn how it operates first. If you have a question it should go in the Q&A sections, not in Development.
If you post 10 useful and helpful posts then you should be able to move past the restrictions. Pleae don't be tempted to post spam as these posts will be deleted.
All that said, wlcome to XDA!
WB
I understand that these restrictions were put in place to keep spammers and the "of course i used search and googled it" away, but as being a long time silent observer and have tested roms before my first post and didn't feel the need to have someone hold my hand as I flashed away, I felt that I should inform the developers of the bugs I have found or to simply thank them.
But with these restrictions in place it meant I had to spam some threads to get to 10 posts which always kept me away. Well now I decided to get those 10 posts, registered and started (mildly) spamming. Up to three posts now.
What I'm trying to say is that with these restrictions you are also keeping away some people that know what they are doing (when it comes to flashing and testing roms) and don't feel the need to ask questions that have been answered many times before.
Just my two cents.
zer081 said:
What I'm trying to say is that with these restrictions you are also keeping away some people that know what they are doing (when it comes to flashing and testing roms) and don't feel the need to ask questions that have been answered many times before.
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If People know what they're doing then they should be posting with helpful replies instead of spamming. I bet 99% of the questions/comments from People who start these kinds of threads have already been raised on the original thread or is some noob like comment that doesn't need to be posted in the first place.
The fact that you couldn't be bothered to search and find the other 1,000 threads here complaining about the very same thing is proof such restrictions are needed.
XperienceD said:
If People know what they're doing then they should be posting with helpful replies instead of spamming. I bet 99% of the questions/comments from People who start these kinds of threads have already been raised on the original thread or is some noob like comment that doesn't need to be posted in the first place.
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What he said.
Anyone "kept away" by these restrictions is probably better off on another site anyway.
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I went through the same exact frustration with the posting rules. When I read about making meaningful posts vs spam/non-helpful for the first 10 all I could think of was... "well, I want to make a meaningful post in regards to a particular rom in the development area, but to do so I have to find other avenues that could be helpful."
I've got no issue with the tight rules to keep spam down, but I imagine I would have above 50 posts right now in development areas but I always shrugged it off and made no reply, which is not helpful to anyone. Now I'm in the process of getting my posts so I can finally contribute.
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I went through the same exact frustration with the posting rules. When I read about making meaningful posts vs spam/non-helpful for the first 10 all I could think of was... "well, I want to make a meaningful post in regards to a particular rom in the development area, but to do so I have to find other avenues that could be helpful."
I've got no issue with the tight rules to keep spam down, but I imagine I would have above 50 posts right now in development areas but I always shrugged it off and made no reply, which is not helpful to anyone. Now I'm in the process of getting my posts so I can finally contribute.
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I am a new member but I have been lurking for a while. I was just lazy to make an account but now that I want to get involved with helping developers clear up bugs I cant because I need at least 10 posts. kinda sucks
wendys8 said:
I am a new member but I have been lurking for a while. I was just lazy to make an account but now that I want to get involved with helping developers clear up bugs I cant because I need at least 10 posts. kinda sucks
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If you really need to contact a dev you could always pm him
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If you really need to contact a dev you could always pm him
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This is true. I just need to up my post count to 10 I believe anyway so I will just blabber for now lol
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wendys8 said:
This is true. I just need to up my post count to 10 I believe anyway so I will just blabber for now lol
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I think your missing the point, your posts should be useful posts.
Try helping people in the general and QandA sections and not just writing pointless posts
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I think your missing the point, your posts should be useful posts.
Try helping people in the general and QandA sections and not just writing pointless posts
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I'm not missing the point, I understand what you are saying, I just believe I could be much more helpful in the development thread, and besides that's the reason I signed up. Not to be forced to go help somewhere I'm not interested in. I came to consult with others in a particular section of the forum specifically and i can't until I go somewhere else and post, that's all I'm trying to say. It's not a huge deal just don't think it necessarily helps me in this case. Although I could see some good reasons as to why they do this.
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wendys8 said:
I'm not missing the point, I understand what you are saying, I just believe I could be much more helpful in the development thread, and besides that's the reason I signed up. Not to be forced to go help somewhere I'm not interested in. I came to consult with others in a particular section of the forum specifically and i can't until I go somewhere else and post, that's all I'm trying to say. It's not a huge deal just don't think it necessarily helps me in this case. Although I could see some good reasons as to why they do this.
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The 10 post rule is there for a cause.To prevent the spamming of dev section.
How can I post in dev section? Simple, you make 10 meaningful posts by helping others as zacthespack already stated.
If you can help others in the development section, then I am pretty sure you can do the same in the General and Q&A section also..And what is it that you want to consult in?
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True, but for myself as a long time reader I have a bug to report on paranoidandroids recent beta. Instead of posting that observation, I find myself trolling forums looking for meaningful things to say to get my 10 posts. Its funny that dd-wrt forums don't have this restriction, and I don't see these spamming issues or silly restrictions. Basically I feel that the community on here is a bit sanctimonious and pompous.
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Well if you have a question it needs to go in the q/a section for your device. The development section is only for development, this is why the rules are in place to try and prevent stuff being posted in the wrong section
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I don't get it. Why would I want to spend my time replying to someone in a Q&A section when they could look up the answer for themselves? That reminds me of students of mine asking a question that's answered in the book in bold text. Are we just enabling noobish people to remain noobs and not think through problems for themselves?
Prawesome said:
The 10 post rule is there for a cause.To prevent the spamming of dev section.
How can I post in dev section? Simple, you make 10 meaningful posts by helping others as zacthespack already stated.
If you can help others in the development section, then I am pretty sure you can do the same in the General and Q&A section also..And what is it that you want to consult in?
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i have a serious problem
Dear Sir
iam changing my phone sim 3times continue.
after that iam restarting my phone.
buy my phone hanged at samsung first screen,
after i am updating firm ware using odin.
but my phone not turn on.that is sucked at android factory reset window.
the error is cant unmount sdcard...etc
my phone model is samsung si9003
plz can you help me about my phone how to turn on as usual.
plz suggest me about upgrading.
or give any solution for me plz
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True, but for myself as a long time reader I have a bug to report on paranoidandroids recent beta. Instead of posting that observation, I find myself trolling forums looking for meaningful things to say to get my 10 posts. Its funny that dd-wrt forums don't have this restriction, and I don't see these spamming issues or silly restrictions. Basically I feel that the community on here is a bit sanctimonious and pompous.
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I don't get it. Why would I want to spend my time replying to someone in a Q&A section when they could look up the answer for themselves? That reminds me of students of mine asking a question that's answered in the book in bold text. Are we just enabling noobish people to remain noobs and not think through problems for themselves?
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dd probably doesn't have close to 5 million users either
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Well, time to close this one as it's just attracting people who want to make ten useless posts. Which will be deleted by the way.....
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[Q] Now that the root threads have been locked

Should we communicate new ideas and attempts via PMS or email? Did someone have an open thread elsewhere on xda? I check multiple times daily and have been attempting to learn and contribute. .since I am a noob I am typically quiet but I am down to test fur people if need be.
Dude dont even try it , leave it alone , to many emotional people in xda
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Dude dont even try it , leave it alone , to many emotional people in xda
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This is a legitimate question for the q/a forum...if they choose to lock it that is their prerogative. I have never made any trouble on this site...there is little reason. This post is not meantt to be inflammatory, I just genuinely want to know if XDAS part in our quest for root is over or not...I am not breaking any forum rules in posting this.
So do people still plan to work on the note 4 using this forum or is there somewhere else I should be focusing my attention to?
nygrik said:
Should we communicate new ideas and attempts via PMS or email? Did someone have an open thread elsewhere on xda? I check multiple times daily and have been attempting to learn and contribute. .since I am a noob I am typically quiet but I am down to test fur people if need be.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59056078&postcount=4
Because of the nonsense that goes on in root threads, no developer in their right mind will post any efforts in one of the threads in General. This is why developers have taken their efforts off of XDA and in private chats...and now no one learns anything here.
And no, you are not breaking rules by asking but you opened a thread where all the non-helping people from the other threads will have a place to go. So I am sure they will be quite proud to post something here to get this locked too.
Now Root will never be achieved, sadly.
ChefAnt said:
Now Root will never be achieved, sadly.
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Yes. Because closing a thread full of people with nothing better to do than post "are we there yet" and then start flaming each other will totally stop all work on root. Smh....I guess you didn't even bother to read my post above.
Wasnt their a bunch of devs in that thread finding exploits ??? Guess they are pming
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GabrielOspina said:
Wasnt their a bunch of devs in that thread finding exploits ??? Guess they are pming
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As Kenny stated here. This is the best course to take. We know most of you guys think we are being jerks, but the bottom line is that thread is/was and would continue to be out of hand. Just because that thread is locked for now, does not mean devs are going to stop collaborating and find a method.
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Yes. Because closing a thread full of people with nothing better to do than post "are we there yet" and then start flaming each other will totally stop all work on root. Smh....I guess you didn't even bother to read my post above.
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Whoa, excuse me . I read your post and found no value in it. I merely made a statement (not even remotely regarding your profound post.) We paid a substantial amount of money for this phone. I also paid for the stupid XDA premium app to support the XDA community. I also have contributed much money to many devs in the past for previous phones I've owned. I believe I have a right to be kept in the know. Whether the know is what exploit developers are using to find root or useless banter from idiotic foreigners and newbs who have no idea what is going on is completely regardless. It's a public forum. The thread was posted in the general section. There was no warning in the title that it was a "Dev thread only." It wasn't just the idiots who were posting dumb comments, it was a lot of the ATT Note 4 Community that would post 4-5 replies after the "are we there yet?" posts that got the thread shut down. I enjoyed the thread, I learned a lot about exploits that I wouldn't have ever thought to research on my own. It was purely entertainment for me and it was taken away because the moderation can never handle anything properly.
Bridge is closed, troll. Go shake your head somewhere else. Nomsayin?
ChefAnt said:
Whoa, excuse me . I read your post and found no value in it. I merely made a statement (not even remotely regarding your profound post.) We paid a substantial amount of money for this phone. I also paid for the stupid XDA premium app to support the XDA community. I also have contributed much money to many devs in the past for previous phones I've owned. I believe I have a right to be kept in the know. Whether the know is what exploit developers are using to find root or useless banter from idiotic foreigners and newbs who have no idea what is going on is completely regardless. It's a public forum. The thread was posted in the general section. There was no warning in the title that it was a "Dev thread only." It wasn't just the idiots who were posting dumb comments, it was a lot of the ATT Note 4 Community that would post 4-5 replies after the "are we there yet?" posts that got the thread shut down. I enjoyed the thread, I learned a lot about exploits that I wouldn't have ever thought to research on my own. It was purely entertainment for me and it was taken away because the moderation can never handle anything properly.
Bridge is closed, troll. Go shake your head somewhere else. Nomsayin?
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First off as Senior Moderator and Team Leader of this section, I AM NO TROLL! You certainly failed to comprehend my post and have some reading comprehension problems. YOUR post had absolutely no value and made no sense that a closed troll filled thread would stop you from getting root! Wow...just wow.
Now if you had read my post correctly I stated there IS an area for developers ONLY where people can see what is going on and not disturb the developers with useless posts like "Now we will never get root" or "Are we there yet". Try reading the original post a few times...then before you respond read it again. Feel free to take this to PM with me if you have any more criticisms of the avenues presented on this PRIVATE membership only development forum.
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KennyG123
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KennyG123 said:
First off as Senior Moderator and Team Leader of this section, I AM NO TROLL! You certainly failed to comprehend my post and have some reading comprehension problems. YOUR post had absolutely no value and made no sense that a closed troll filled thread would stop you from getting root! Wow...just wow.
Now if you had read my post correctly I stated there IS an area for developers ONLY where people can see what is going on and not disturb the developers with useless posts like "Now we will never get root" or "Are we there yet". Try reading the original post a few times...then before you respond read it again. Feel free to take this to PM with me if you have any more criticisms of the avenues presented on this PRIVATE membership only development forum.
Cheers
KennyG123
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Private?! OK buddy. I could have 4 accounts to this "private" forum in 5 mins. You guys give any moron a membership. You guys even made it easier for morons to join by making them watch a video rather than actually reading the rules before signing up. This is dumb. I have lost interest in all doings on this forum. Thanks for the boost of support from the Mod team. Did you have to watch a video before becoming a mod? Cheers.
ChefAnt said:
Private?! OK buddy. I could have 4 accounts to this "private" forum in 5 mins. You guys give any moron a membership. You guys even made it easier for morons to join by making them watch a video rather than actually reading the rules before signing up. This is dumb. I have lost interest in all doings on this forum. Thanks for the boost of support from the Mod team. Did you have to watch a video before becoming a mod? Cheers.
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Actually yes we do. And please read those rules you so reverently talked about. Having more than one account is a rule violation.
ChefAnt said:
Private?! OK buddy. I could have 4 accounts to this "private" forum in 5 mins. You guys give any moron a membership. You guys even made it easier for morons to join by making them watch a video rather than actually reading the rules before signing up. This is dumb. I have lost interest in all doings on this forum. Thanks for the boost of support from the Mod team. Did you have to watch a video before becoming a mod? Cheers.
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Man I usually don't post but **** I am so glad your gone. Best wishes
Wow...well you were right about having a place for people to cry...I was genuinely looking for a place to go keep learning and hopefully obtaining root...if you want to stop and close this thread I approve. No need for mods and users to be fighting and disrespecting eachother. I will continue my pursuit in other threads this one is finished for me.
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