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[Q] CWM recovery and the DHD

Hi guys.
I have some question, mostly out of interest really that may help me understand flashing etal better.
When in CWM recovery, if I want to flash a new ROM, I use a fullwipe.zip that I found on this site, to, well, wipe the phone
The last thing wipe.zip says is make sure you install a new ROM.
Now, as I have, afaik, performed a full wipe, if I were to reboot after the wipe and before flashing a new ROM, would I brick the phone, or would it just boot into bootloader etc...
Would CWM recovery still be present on the phone after the wipe is it just running in ram or something?
I also have a load of other questions. But they can wait.
Cheers dudes.
Greg.
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I've never done this, so I'm curious to know what happens exactly.
But as far as i'm aware if you were to boot the phone without a rom installed, you would just get a blank screen or maybe the splash screen. Recovery stays installed, which is good news because you need to get back there to install a rom or the phone won't work. So to do that you would have to plug the phone in and use adb to get back to recovery with "adb reboot recovery" or if that doesn't work, pull the battery, hold vol down + power to get to bootloader and then get to recovery that way to install a rom.

If you run the phone without os you get stuck in a bootloop i think. After that not sure what happeness. It's always easier to install 4EXT recovery, dowload any ROM you like from here and flash through 4EXT. No need for any full wipe scripts since a full wipe is format data/system/cache, erase dalvik which is very simple in 4EXT.
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answer on your question:
CWM still works, even if you flashed a fullwipe or "superwipe".
But, i just want you to know, that you get other problems if you tried to unlocked your bootloader via htcdev, within flashin new roms.

Lol i dont get it,you wiped her,why would you want to blast off into oblivion
Interesting though,rather start picking my rom out?
Theres so much choice now
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If you do that you will be stuck in boot loop as no OS is installed and yes you will still have CWM available. To get out of the boot loop just remove the battery. And then just press vol down and power to get into hboot and then you can get into recovery from there.
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arknailed7754 said:
Lol i dont get it,you wiped her,why would you want to blast off into oblivion
Interesting though,rather start picking my rom out?
Theres so much choice now
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Hey dude. It was purely out of interest.
I was thinking about this after i flashed the LC ICS ROM.
I used CWM to full wipe and flash the new rom zip, but it seemed to install very quickly.
So quickly in fact I thought that it couldn't have installed correctly.
I didn't want to reboot incase the rom hadn't taken and I bricked my DHD so I ended up restoring a nandroid backup I'd made before wiping the phone.
But if CWM recovery would remain on the phone even after a wipe, then I can take the gamble that it had installed.
Cheers for your answers dudes.

TeamDraven said:
Hey dude. It was purely out of interest.
I was thinking about this after i flashed the LC ICS ROM.
I used CWM to full wipe and flash the new rom zip, but it seemed to install very quickly.
So quickly in fact I thought that it couldn't have installed correctly.
I didn't want to reboot incase the rom hadn't taken and I bricked my DHD so I ended up restoring a nandroid backup I'd made before wiping the phone.
But if CWM recovery would remain on the phone even after a wipe, then I can take the gamble that it had installed.
Cheers for your answers dudes.
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Lords ICS does install pretty fast. But it just works... so there's little/no risk there. I try to always do a full wipe before installing but lately with his builds, I've only been wiping dalvik and cache and updating with the newest build. If something doesn't work, then I wipe and see if I get the same behavior with a full wipe. Multiple Nandroid backup points let me restore to whatever point in time that I want. It's a great approach.
Best of luck and have fun!

djmasoda said:
Lords ICS does install pretty fast. But it just works... so there's little/no risk there. I try to always do a full wipe before installing but lately with his builds, I've only been wiping dalvik and cache and updating with the newest build. If something doesn't work, then I wipe and see if I get the same behavior with a full wipe. Multiple Nandroid backup points let me restore to whatever point in time that I want. It's a great approach.
Best of luck and have fun!
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Cheers dude.
I just flashed it onto my DHD.
Runs well, the otly first poopy impression I have is the pictures from the camera!
Any suggestion on a 3rd party Camera app?
Cheers.
Greg

I've found better luck with Pudding Camera and Camera 360. For me, the camera is the only hit or miss item atm. Folks have been posting ideas to get it working right, such as disabling the flash or putting it in burst mode with on 1 photos set. Also try clearing the data from the app too. Peruse the development thread... There's a lot of camera tweaks being offered here and there.
Another note, video is also problematic in the rom too... Really, so long as I can scan barcodes using amazon, I can get by otherwise. I look forward to your thoughts as you dig in... More updates are coming daily from Lord!
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Hey dude.
The camera is a real deal breaker for me. With two kids and one on the way I want a good camera and camcorder.
Cheers for your comments though guys.
Greg.

New ClockworkMod Touch Recovery

New ClockworkMod Touch Recovery available for HTC Desire.
You can get info from here:
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/N9FpGn2Rq7a
You also get it from here in img format:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

I've been using 4EXT Touch Recovery for a while now and I don't see myself moving to CWM Recovery any time soon. It's nice to finally see CMW go into the touch interface as 4EXT was based on CWM anyway.
More options for us. Fun!

Downloaded and works flawlessly so far, will be great for people who's buttons are faulty , making flashing new roms so much easier and possible.

Paid for premium to support cw team, and now he want money for touch recovery install? No thx...
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andee84 said:
Paid for premium to support cw team, and now he want money for touch recovery install? No thx...
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You can download the thing for free on his site and install it manually yourself.

The interface is more andoirdy then 4next, but yeah, so much used to 4next by now, thinking only serious curiousity might get me to switch and try it out
But way to go!

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You can download the thing for free on his site and install it manually yourself.
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absolutely - its free - no need to complain really.
Theres many people that donate to devs, many people that don't - its the same thing
you pay to get it one way (like a donation) or get it free the other way...

Does anyone have trouble installing this via rom manager? I get this when I try to flash it;
dl.dropbox.com/u/6210453/screenshot-1328112461314 .png
(I'm not allowed to post outgoing links yet so remove the space and copy past it)

Couldn't find any images of the UI on those links. What does it look like, similar to the 4EXT UI?

Is it any better than 4ext? Don't see much point changing if its not
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Donate is good way to support the work of the people that let us play with our devices... so why not donate? Is more or less the price of a coffee...

sintaku said:
Couldn't find any images of the UI on those links. What does it look like, similar to the 4EXT UI?
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No it doesn't. It doesn't look very different from old cwm, text is much bigger, supports touch, that's it. 4ext ui is much, much better.

Rotten Ross said:
Is it any better than 4ext? Don't see much point changing if its not
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4ext has better features such as format boot, format all partions except sd card, etc... No point changing to CWM touch.
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I have a little problem with the 5.8.0.2 version of CWM Touch recovery.
I use an HTC Desire (bravo) and during the nandroid backup the recovery software says that it can't mount the sd-ext and for this reason it can't backup that data.

Worth giving a try?

i dont like it... i preffer 4ext... its my opinion

I agree I tried CWM touch only to move back to 4eXT a few days later
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Looks the same to me... I was on like 2.0.5.7. or something and the new one has blue text instead of purple.
I tried touching the screen and it didn't work.

RealyPssd said:
Looks the same to me... I was on like 2.0.5.7. or something and the new one has blue text instead of purple.
I tried touching the screen and it didn't work.
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of course you tried the latest stable recovery NOT touch...there is an other recovery (beta) with touch support

I noticed that, yeah.
How do I flash the *.img file I've downloaded for the Touch version?
FastBoot?

What's your favourite custom recovery for now guys? ext4 recovery touch or cwm

sorry before, may be this is a stupid thread for asking common stuffs about recovery
but i just wanna know for this time what's your favourite custom recovery between cwm and ext4 recovery touch (include the version) or may be the others that u think the best. thank you guys

Probably ext 4
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Both are awesome, but I like CWM more
I've used both and both are great.
I personally find that CWM (ClockworkMod) is a little more straightforward and has a cleaner look to it. CWM now has touch, albeit it's not as feature or interface rich as 4ext's touch interface.
I should point out, however, that using CWM with some ROM's, I was unable to make selections when the ROM gives you options during flashing. For example, when I was flashing a rom that gave the option of installing the OC daemon, CWM didn't give me the option, it just said installation (of the OC daemon) cancelled, whereas 4ext said yes or no, and I was able to choose.
I use ROM Manager (+ premium) from the market to flash back to clockwork mod when I've had 4ext installed, and use 4ext Recovery Control to flash 4ext back.
I would post the links but xda says I can't yet Not new to android or xda by any means, but new to posting
Hope this helps

The recovery is called 4EXT, and that's what you should refer to it, as to avoid any sort of misunderstanding with the "ext4" filesystem.
With that said, 4EXT Touch is the best you can get. It has a lot of bugs fixed over from CWM. It is also fully compatible with ROM Manager.
Link to the 4EXT site: http://4ext.net/

4ext touch is what I prefer. I started with cwm and have mad love for it, but after one of the updates is was working awkward for me and I tried 4ext and never looked back.
I might add cwm is fixed now, and works flawlessly.
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They both flash roms fine. So to me, eh who cares? I mean no offense to the respective devs, but I compare it to who makes a better key to my car? Who cares as long as it works. Imho.
P.s. I know some people like fancy keyless entry and keyless start and panic mode.... so for them it makes a difference.
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Alternatives to Clockwork recovery

i have used clockwork recovery for a while. But is is old with not much development. is there a alternative that is better with all the functionality and more.

Clockwork mod has set the standard for custom recoveries I wouldn't suggest deviating from it. But if you dont care you can try TWRP its not bad, you can theme it and its touch like Cwm
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Not much development..? There's only so much recovery can do.
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TWRP
That's what I use.
Hoping Maxx brings 4EXT Touch to GNexus eventually. Loved it on my N1.
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lol wow...
Its like asking for a Windows Recycle bin with more functionality... Since its been the same since Windows 95 lol

mellll said:
lol wow...
Its like asking for a Windows Recycle bin with more functionality... Since its been the same since Windows 95 lol
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HAHA I LMAO'd

Might happen with windows 8. They are messing with everything else why stop with the recycle bin lol.
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I'll second TWRP
when playing around with different roms and kernels, it's layout just seems more logical and natural. Didn't have any problems so far with wiping and installing stuff (that wipe cache/dalvik button after install is really handy)
Hope they continue to develop

I also use twrp. Best recovery overall IMO.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not much development..? There's only so much recovery can do.
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clockwork never restores my nandroid backups. it always errors out near the end of the restore. even with a wiped phone and a fresh root and rom. liquid rom

swogg said:
clockwork never restores my nandroid backups. it always errors out near the end of the restore. even with a wiped phone and a fresh root and rom. liquid rom
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Sounds like bad nand memory not a recovery... I could be wrong though. Or your partitions are corrupt.
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ÜBER™ said:
Sounds like bad nand memory not a recovery... I could be wrong though. Or your partitions are corrupt.
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how do you fix a bad nand memory?, or fix the partition?
clockwork finds the nand backup fine and starts the restore process. restores system fine, secure fine, but errors out while restoring data

swogg said:
how do you fix a bad nand memory?, or fix the partition?
clockwork finds the nand backup fine and starts the restore process. restores system fine, secure fine, but errors out while restoring data
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You dont... means busted phone... like i said i could be wrong. Do you have enough space for the nandroid? you need about 2gigs for it to back up properly depending on how much /data you have... like how many apps you have... i have roughly 30-40 and my nandroids are around 800mbs... otherwise yes it will error.

ÜBER™ said:
Clockwork mod has set the standard for custom recoveries I wouldn't suggest deviating from it. But if you dont care you can try TWRP its not bad, you can theme it and its touch like Cwm
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that's crazy to think about. I remember when Koush made it for the D1 just so we could flash CM because SPR used a different format. Thinking back, that guy did a LOT in a short amount of time

uoY_redruM said:
TWRP
That's what I use.
Hoping Maxx brings 4EXT Touch to GNexus eventually. Loved it on my N1.
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+1 on this. I had just started using 4EXT on my Evo 3d, it was great. I think Clockwork mod is great as well but I prefer 4EXT and TWRP's user interface. I would use TWRP but it seems a lot of mods I wanna flash can't be done with it.
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I really liked AmonRA's recovery when I was on the Dream. I was sad when I had to switch to CM. But, now I'm cool with it.
-bZj
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I've gone back to cm touch after using TWRP for a while.
TWRP is great, and I did like the ability to queue zips, but I had trouble with nandroids and with rom manager integration. Basically, I would hit apply in rom manager, and my phone would boot to the menu in TWRP instead of flashing the rom. Ultimately, nothing beats the ease of being able to hit a button in Android, and have the phone reboot and automatically install your updates. (On the other hand, if someone can tell me how to integrate TWRP with rom manager, that'd be awesome...)
With nandroids, the process took about 3 seconds and the files weren't nearly big enough, so I guess it was missing something.

team win recovery project - awesome & advanced recovery!

m.is.for.michael said:
I've gone back to cm touch after using TWRP for a while.
TWRP is great, and I did like the ability to queue zips, but I had trouble with nandroids and with rom manager integration. Basically, I would hit apply in rom manager, and my phone would boot to the menu in TWRP instead of flashing the rom. Ultimately, nothing beats the ease of being able to hit a button in Android, and have the phone reboot and automatically install your updates. (On the other hand, if someone can tell me how to integrate TWRP with rom manager, that'd be awesome...)
With nandroids, the process took about 3 seconds and the files weren't nearly big enough, so I guess it was missing something.
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It's called learn to do the process yourself and not use rom manager...I have not had it on my phone since the evo it has never really worked on a Samsung phone and koush never wanted to fix it...
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Well thanks: I know how to do it myself, but rom manager and CWM is heaps more convenient and works fine for me on my gnex
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Though somebody helpfully just suggested on another thread that I should try goo manager instead of ROM manager. I might give that a go.

backup rom

Hi people.
I was using rom manager for a long time now to backup restore my roms on DHD.
A few days before i try to backup my new rom Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 and my phone freeze.
I went to recovery mode and fix it.
Is there any other app to backup my phone?
Also i notice rom manager update in store.Did they fix this issue ?
Cheers

Use 4ext recovery. It's much better than CWM. It doesn't support as many phones as CWM, but the DHD is one of the few it does. Also any backups you've made with CWM are fully compatible with 4ext. You can get the donation 4ext Recovery Control app from Play Store which has a ton of other features apart from backing up and restoring. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for the app, you can do everything directly in recovery too. The app is just a frontend to make it easier. Hardly anyone uses CWM + ROM Manager for the DHD anymore because this is better.
Instructions -
1) Go to www.4ext.net
2) Download 4ext Recovery Updater from there (free).
3) Run app and flash 4ext Touch Recovery from it. That's all. You can also just get the paid 4ext Recovery Control app from Play Store (worth it bigtime) and flash recovery from there instead of going to the website and doing all that I said above.
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petrose said:
Hi people.
I was using rom manager for a long time now to backup restore my roms on DHD.
A few days before i try to backup my new rom Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 and my phone freeze.
I went to recovery mode and fix it.
Is there any other app to backup my phone?
Also i notice rom manager update in store.Did they fix this issue ?
Cheers
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I Use 4EXT Recovery Updater And 4EXT Recovery Control. Its Really Good And User-friendly.

+1 for 4ext.
I never use rom manager - I've heard of too many problems

I use 4ext and I really like it. You may also try TWRP, which is also a touch recovery. However, it's a flashable zip so it may be easier for you to install compared the 4ext recovery updater package (probably not much, I'm just used to flashing a lot of ROMs).

I don't think TWRP is available for DHD, is it?
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TWRP is available for DHD. I used it for awhile on my Inspire 4G, and it also works for DHD. However, I have had problems installing inspiremod for my Inspire 4G with it. It has Goomanager, which is nice. I use 4ext now though.

Oh cool. I wasn't aware of that. I never saw a thread for it in the development forum. How do you install it? Through GooManager?
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sashank said:
Oh cool. I wasn't aware of that. I never saw a thread for it in the development forum. How do you install it? Through GooManager?
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Yes, through Goomanager.

dude, 4ext is the best and there is alot of support around recent roms and earlier also. go for it