So my phone went for a little seem the other day. Amazingly, it stayed on the entire time is was in the water.
I took it apart, dried it off, reassembled and let sit for a few hours. When I rebooted, all but speaker and mic worked fine.
The strange thing us that I now get a screen I've never seen before that pops up seemingly randomly. Had anyone ever seen this screen, to identify what it is?
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I think its dock mode/car mode.
weird that the swim enabled it. but I remove the clock apk from every rom because of this. you can freeze or remove it no problems. just grab a new alarm clock if you need it from the market
I thought dock mode was the big button, vlingo screen. I get that on occasion now too.
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Maybe water grounded the dock sensor?
It's most likely corrosion or some alkaloid residue on the charging port. Buy some denatured alcohol from your local home supply shop, grab a medium bristle tooth brush and lightly coat the brush, then clean the charging port.
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It also wouldn't hurt to disassemble the device once more, and do the same to the motherboard.
Water damage isn't caused by the actual water 9 times out of 10, but by impurities left behind, as residue, acting as a re-routing conduit.
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dock mode is usually one of the tell tale signs that indicates liquid damage on this device. Mine does it anytime I go in the shower with the phone. The steam messes with the charging port and kicks it into dock mode.
on another note. its awesome that your phone likes to swim lol
What your screen is showing is desk clock mode. Found under the stock clock application.
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Tip: When your phone gets wet, throw it in a bath of alcohol. The strongest rubbing alcohol you can find. Leave it in there (with the battery out) for about 10 mins. The alcohol will displace the water and clean any corrosive substances that would have stayed in from normal drying, and then dries out very quickly. This only works shortly after the phone gets wet though. It won't work once you've dried it. Just for future refrence.
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Tip: When your phone gets wet, throw it in a bath of alcohol. The strongest rubbing alcohol you can find. Leave it in there (with the battery out) for about 10 mins. The alcohol will displace the water and clean any corrosive substances that would have stayed in from normal drying, and then dries out very quickly. This only works shortly after the phone gets wet though. It won't work once you've dried it. Just for future refrence.
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This is incorrect. Use "DENATURED" alcohol. Not rubbing alcohol. And submerging it is definitely not the route you should choose.
But, hey, go ahead and try that if you'd like. Paper weights are few and far between, nowadays.
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No one recommends the "Leave your phone in a sealed tupperware contained with a cup of uncooked rice" method anymore?
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No one recommends the "Leave your phone in a sealed tupperware contained with a cup of uncooked rice" method anymore?
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It worked fine for my girlfriends hero... But id just pay the 100 deductible to get a new one
(hint if asurion sends you a refurb. Most likely it still has cosmetic/hardware defects so I usually call and complain and request a NEW device.... Ive done this with the evo 4g and evo 3d)
It's desk clock. Get the app "dock no OP" and the next time desk clock tries to start again set "dock no op" as default and it won't show . Happens to me sometimes because I have one bad USB cable so the next time the pins are miss recognized, nothing will open. That app is so simple yet so effective and doesn't run in the background
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Last night´s party was pretty good, but my beloved kaiser ended in the floor after flying 10ft. Now I am having some issues with the hardware buttons, especially with:
°Camera- just not working, and nedded to bootloader aka tricolor screen
°Phone answer- not really needed, I can answer via touchscreen
°Settings- some times work, some other no.
°D-Pad down - just down not working, center top left and right works well.
°OK- some times work, some other no.
°Keyboard P,O,L, Del not working.
So, I am in deep ****, especially because I want to get a new nbh loadeed, but I cant get in to the bootloader using camera+reboot.
Any Ideas? Thanx!
get a new one? that seems pretty rough. right now on ebay you can find one for around $50 if your patient
You might have loosened the cable, or the cable might be damaged. I've dropped my Wizard once, and this happened. Turns out the cable got loose.
The Kaiser has a cable inside, that moves when you open and close the keyboard. This cable can also easily wear out, or accidentally pulled.
I pulled this image from Kaiser Service manual PDF. You can easily see the connector and cable for the front. As you can see, it's pretty easy to loosen the connector from an accidental drop. BTW, Kaiser Service Manual will tell you step by step in how to take apart the Kaiser. You will need a Torx screw driver T5 and T6, not to forget one extremely small Philips screw driver.
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Just reconnect the cable. I recommend getting contact cleaner to lube and clean it first. You can pick up one of these at your local radio shack. Wonderful stuff. Good idea to spray every connector you come across.
Also, if you damaged any of the plastic (like I did) you can repair it easily with a soldering pen, and extra broken plastic lying around. I dropped my Kaiser once, and chipped off a piece of plastic. Nothing wrong with the phone, but cosmetically it annoyed me. Easily took it apart and repaired it with my soldering iron, and some extra pieces of black broke plastic. Just remember the front bezel (where the screen is) isn't plastic, but metal. The center and back is made out of plastic, that btw melts easily to a soldering iron.
Here's an example of some guy repairing a bike doing this. Do it right, and it's strong. Do it wrong, and it'll break easily under stress.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try it tonight.
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Yesterday I disassembled my Kaiser, and cheched all the cables, but it didn't work. Still the same issues.
So I want to know if there is a way via software thru android to get in to the tricolor screen.
I am using kallt kaffe's nbh and eclair.
Thanks!
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no not with android sorry.
if you know how to solder, try resoldering the leads for the camera button.
If the cable wasn't the reason, then you may have to take apart the front screen itself. The front screen is a mess of connections, so you may wanna check them.
I went the whole way dismembering the Kaiser. Cleaned all the connections, and checked all were in place.
Still no luck.
I believe something went really wrong in the motherboard in the last drop.
It´s a shame 'cause this is a very nice piece of hardware and have been with me for the last 3 years.
Maybe its time to use the AmEx and get a Nexus One.
Thank you guys for all the help.
Just a note on this, if the keypad or dpad were the only things with issues, I'd have suspected the main flex also, however as the camera button is firmly fixed to the mainboard, then the damage must have been more serious.
Afraid it might take a lot of serious disassembly and probably a few hours with a microscope to find any fractured connections, which is the usual type of damage after heavy impact. Also the connector for the main flex and the camera button are both on the same side of the mainboard.
I feel your pain, it's one thing to honourably retire a device for an upgrade, but losing one in action is a different thing altogether
Thank you guys for your help. As we speak I am unboxing mi new x10.
If anyone thinks my old kaiser could be used as a spare parts, i can send it for free, just you pay the shipping fee.
THANKS A LOT. I am moving to the X10 xda forum
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Hey, I'm experiencing the same issue. I can boot to android, but nothing I do will get to the bootloader. Zenity tried to help also (thanks!)
I've got a HD2 for me with WM and 2.2, this is for the boyfriend (his first android).
Hello everyone.
I have a question for you.
I've send my phone back for warranty because one of the leds stopped working.
Problem occured when my upper flash led became blueish and after a while i couldnt even take pictures with flash because it made photo completely blue.
Eventualy, that led died.
Now i got it back from repair and they wrote down something like that:
"Mechanically damaged phone (bruised), consequently damaged rigid flex.."
So, I am asking what exactly is "damaged" rigid flex? As far as I know, rigid flex is some kind of "tape"-like part of motherboard? Some kind of connector? And if this is true, how the hell could rigid flex be damaged INSIDE OF OUR ALUMINIUM PHONE?? The phone was never disassembled neighter dropped. It has 3 scratches on the back above the battery slot. I got them when i was at the beach and phone slided (not dropped or anything) for about 5cm on the little rocks there, nothing MAJOR really, even the scratches are small. Also that couldnt effect that rigid flex.. And if rigid flex would be damaged, as far as i know, both leds would be gone + camera or some stuff??
Thank you guys for your answers and your time spent reading this
With Love,
miHah
I don't know what that means, it sounds made up. I just replaced my upper board with the LEDs on it icant see it getting damaged any way other than a bad led. The board costs $50 on eBay. Did they charge you? I never send back for warranty they always try to back charge. You can always find the parts on eBay. As you can see they are solders to the board. The black cable connector beside them is the power. Maybe that was damaged?
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No they did not charge me anything, they just refused to repair that.
I demanded photos of "damaged" things because I am curious if they even opened the thing. I think they didn't as I am looking at those pics.
Those LEDS and the mainboard looks completely different from yours. Or is it only me?
Also, they provided me the "bruised-phone" photo (reason why they refuse to repair it under warranty). Wanna see?
Thank you for your answers!
They are taking you for a ride, the "Flashlight"/LED cable is under that mylar tape that they didnt even remove. I would complain make them tell you exactly what was damaged. you can see visible damage to the LED.
My phone is a telus the bigger black rubber thing is a noise cancelling mic to the left of the leds you can see the 4 solder points just above your leds.
where the wire i soldered to the board was where the gps antenna connectors was and they are right of the leds on your pic. They are the same board just mine is out on my desk yours was still in the phone.
Those boards are different. Make sure if you have the European DHD that you don't purchase a board for the Telus Desire HD or Inspire.
Is that discolorization on the board from it getting wet or from the LED exploding? Wow, can't believe they refused to repair your phone because of some exterior wear and tear.
It was never exposed to water or steam or anything. The closest incident it could get wet was once when I took a shower it was in my bathroom while there was a little steam on the high level of the room but that couldn't have had any effect on anything.
LED Exploding? How could this happen?
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Those boards are different. Make sure if you have the European DHD that you don't purchase a board for the Telus Desire HD or Inspire.
Is that discolorization on the board from it getting wet or from the LED exploding? Wow, can't believe they refused to repair your phone because of some exterior wear and tear.
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These boards are almost identical. The only difference is the noise cancelling Mic. I have a telus desire hd and replaced the board with a euro. One. It worked perfect.
Just watch the teardown video and replace it your self. It takes awhile, but not real hard to do. Took me about 1/2 hour.
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report them to:
http://www.zps.si/o-nas/zveza-potrosnikov-slovenije/index.php?Itemid=362
http://www.uvp.gov.si/si/
maybe it would work just threatening to do it. it has helped me in the past, but on compleatly different case
I live in Miami and am heading up to Tennessee this weekend to go snow boarding. Wanted to know if there is any danger in s3 + snow as I will be taking pics and such while out there. Right now just have a skinit skin, screen protector and a clear tpu case. I had tried the waterproof seidio but could not handle the terrible screen response with it on so i returned it.
Thanks
They have snow boarding in Tennessee? Lol that's awesome
I'd put it in an inside pocket in my jacket. As long as it doesn't get dunked in snow you'll be good
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Heavy duty zip block bag works in a pinch. Just have to deal with taking it in and out.
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if it's below 30° where you'll be you should be fine to take pics in short bursts of time exposed to the weather, if it's above 32° that means a lot of moisture in the air and that could moisten the internals quickly. The lower temps solidify the moisture in the air making it much less likely to get inside your phone. Also, if you were to place clear tape over your speaker, ear piece, charging port, and headphone jack you'll be far more "ready for the weather" as most of where air\moisture could enter your phone is sealed. If you have a tight rubber case like an Otterbox, with the tape placed as I described, you should be fine to take pictures to your heart's content.
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I live in Miami and am heading up to Tennessee this weekend to go snow boarding. Wanted to know if there is any danger in s3 + snow as I will be taking pics and such while out there. Right now just have a skinit skin, screen protector and a clear tpu case. I had tried the waterproof seidio but could not handle the terrible screen response with it on so i returned it.
Thanks
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zip lock bags are easier lol.. depending how many you put inside of eachother, you may beable to use it through the zip locks although picture quality would suck unless you take it out
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if it's below 30° where you'll be you should be fine to take pics in short bursts of time exposed to the weather, if it's above 32° that means a lot of moisture in the air and that could moisten the internals quickly. The lower temps solidify the moisture in the air making it much less likely to get inside your phone. Also, if you were to place clear tape over your speaker, ear piece, charging port, and headphone jack you'll be far more "ready for the weather" as most of where air\moisture could enter your phone is sealed. If you have a tight rubber case like an Otterbox, with the tape placed as I described, you should be fine to take pictures to your heart's content.
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If the phone gets cold enough while you're outside, then it could also pick up condensation from the warmer air when you go back inside - I recommend putting it in a Ziploc bag before going in, and not taking it out until it is back to room temperature. That way, it is surrounded by the dry air from outside while it warms up.
I learned this from a friend who is a scientist at an ice core laboratory - their freezers are kept around -40°
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I live in tn and lets just say right now it is 70 here...
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I live in Tn also and you might need to drive further north! Even for Ober Gatlinburg... the ONLY place in Tn that could have snow.
Once you find the snow, the ziplock bag isn't such a bad idea if you don't want to buy something like an Otterbox Defender.
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Ober Gatlinburg is the plan, i used to go up around this time every year and when I've been there that it didn't snow they had artifical snow at night for twilight skiing. Thank you all for the advice.
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Been swimming in UK loads and the watch stayed waterproof. Go on holiday to Rhodes and its full of water on the first day. Not happy.
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You need to be very sure that the rubber plug is in all the way.That is the only way water can get in:crying:
The SW3 is not rated waterproof in the case of saline water....
RTFM
Yesterday I went to the sea, I have been in the water more than an hour with the watch and no problem.
I swim and take mine in the jacuzzi daily
I made s6re the seal was on before I went in. Ive had it in a bag of rice since. I tried it this morning and it switches on now but the touch screen isnt working. Ill try to dry it out more.
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You can try to contact sony and tell them it is defective. They should honor the warranty, however they do say never take unrated electronics into salt water. This watch is rated for dips in fresh water up to 1.5 meters. Also, they say once in a while, submersion in a pool is okay if you clean it off afterward.
Rice should work, but will take a while.
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I swim and take mine in the jacuzzi daily
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And this is how you tell people you have a jacuzzi :laugh: smooths
I dropped my SW3 watch in the toilet after I took a massive diarrhea dump... no problems there with it being water proof...
just stinky...; - )
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I dropped my SW3 watch in the toilet after I took a massive diarrhea dump... no problems there with it being water proof...
just stinky...; - )
tvos
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:good: this is the answer!
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:good: this is the answer!
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haha, made my day.
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I swim and take mine in the jacuzzi daily
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I'm too much of a whimp to do that... Cheers to having a jacuzzi though
The IP certifications only covers "filtered" water' like in a pool or like the friend who dropped in the toilet after the diarrhea, sea water is not covered in the waterproof specs.
The IP68 rating on Sony's own web page contains the following footnote:
The SmartWatch 3 is water and dust protected as long as you follow a few simple instructions: you can’t take the SmartWatch 3 deeper than 10m of water and for longer than 30 minutes; and the water should be fresh water. Casual use in chlorinated pools is permitted provided the SmartWatch 3 is rinsed in fresh water afterwards. No seawater and no salt water pools. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate warranty. The SmartWatch 3 has an Ingress Protection rating of IP68.
See: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/smartwear/smartwatch-3-swr50/
Same here, no longer waterproof.
Went swimming last night and water got in, the screen went on and off for a while and after 30 minutes it stayed on. The big problem now is that the touch screen no longer works, making it useless. I think the seal gets lose over time even though it looks fine.
If you take a look at the teardown video, the problem is not with the micro usb connector, it is fixed into a lot of glue so there is no way that water will get in through that part. I bet that the lcd's adhesive loses it's stickiness in time, making tiny holes for the water to get in.
Also, it is forbidden to swim with it in salt water due to the fact that the rubber seal for the usb connector is not waterproof, and the salt water can corrode the contacts in no time.
Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7dp0eysMU
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By the way, what was sony's response for this? Was it covered by warranty?
I'don't swim with it, drop it in the toilet and sh*t on it, I just wash it with soap and water from time to time when it gets dirty so it's good to know their answer.
Thank you!
I was cleaning my phone Google Pixel 2 XL just a bit ago with a soft cloth and a can of compressed air. Now I would like to know why does my screen blow out of the housing when the can of air hits the camera flash. But also if you play music and spary air on the flash it distorts the audio. Now my wife also has the Pixel 2 XL and I tested this with hers and I get the same results. I don't believe for one moment it's water resistance let alone dust resistance. It's as if there is a gaping hole in the back of our phones. In the pic you can see the adhesive that should be holding the screen in place is pushed out by the volume rocker.
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First of all the phones claim is it is water proof, not compressed air proof, and in order to stop the phone going pop at changes in air pressure or temperature it isn't hermetically sealed.
Blowing compressed air at the phone could see much higher pressure than water down to 1 metre could exert, so perhaps you have blown in the flash housing and broken the seal.
Also the picture of your phone looks as though it's been in a trouser pocket or similar or sat on and so has been bent as the glass of the display is lifted away from the frame, it is no longer water proof.
Regards
Phil
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I was cleaning my phone Google Pixel 2 XL just a bit ago with a soft cloth and a can of compressed air. Now I would like to know why does my screen blow out of the housing when the can of air hits the camera flash. But also if you play music and spary air on the flash it distorts the audio. Now my wife also has the Pixel 2 XL and I tested this with hers and I get the same results. I don't believe for one moment it's water resistance let alone dust resistance. It's as if there is a gaping hole in the back of our phones. In the pic you can see the adhesive that should be holding the screen in place is pushed out by the volume rocker.
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What are you doing!
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Hi
First of all the phones claim is it is water proof, not compressed air proof, and in order to stop the phone going pop at changes in air pressure or temperature it isn't hermetically sealed.
Blowing compressed air at the phone could see much higher pressure than water down to 1 metre could exert, so perhaps you have blown in the flash housing and broken the seal.
Also the picture of your phone looks as though it's been in a trouser pocket or similar or sat on and so has been bent as the glass of the display is lifted away from the frame, it is no longer water proof.
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Phil
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the phone has never been in a pocket holster only from day one so it's not bent I promise that. and i understand what your saying but there is no opening in the back. I have a DBrand skin and dust gets built up around camera and flash so I clean my investment cause I like my phone to look good I just stumbled across this and didn't think it was normal.
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The amount of pressure per square inch you are exerting with a point blank blast of COMPRESSED air is FAR greater than the pressure per square inch exerted by 3 feet of water for 30 minutes.
The device isn't compressed air blast proof, it's waterproof
I too use compressed air once in a while... from about 8-10 inches away from the device.
In the photo I am close but normally I'm not I wanted my wife to get the screen
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Bulge on camera. That's the only reason it's very close. But even at a few inches away it still does it. Thank you I understand know. I thought watertight was basically the same as air tight.
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