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Thinking of getting Nexus

So I currently have the Samsung Fascinate on verizon, and it finally running great with latest superclean, gingerbread.
But I am able to upgrade, I went to the store and at first I was not very impressed. Then went back just today, and realized someone made the fonts extra Large, and once I changed it back to normal, wow what a difference. I just thought something wrong with my eyes on that phone.
I was trying to compare the nexus to the razr and htz rezound. After trying all 3 phones for an hour I am 100% sure I don't want the rezound or razr even if they do get ICS. The main reason is I think the screen looked the best on nexus, and bigger. I just liked having more real estate, of course other big reason is it is ASOP Google which is main reason for looking at nexus.
But I was curious do your phones get hot? I noticed after playing with this nexus in the store it got very warm / to hot when I tried to make a call to see sound quality I could barely keep it on my face.
I downloaded the temperature monitor from market and it showed it at 110.
While razr and rezound was mostly cool compared to nexus. I think temp showed around 98-105
Some other concerns is I saw a thread here where getting scratched easily, I refuse to put a screen protector on, I just hate it, I have never had one on my fascinate and not one scratch. So while at the store I tried as hard to scratch with my nails, and bang it, basically doing what I can to see if anything happened, and I did not see one scratch, so I guess that is good, though not sure what happens when I put it in my front pants pocket.
I also made a call from the store and sounded really good, and person on other end said I sounded great, of course in the store I am sure the reception is great. I was curious how is the speakerphone? I use that a lot, since I am always losing my bluetooth.
I tried to it use while in the store but way too noisy to get a good feeling.

A lot of the questions you're having can be answered by watching video reviews on YouTube or reading reviews of the phone.
HTC Rezound vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaVZPH7Sgg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfvUGk63o8Q
RAZR vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZrSYPGn-M
P2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwUQ_LhTBjc&feature=player_embedded
Engadget Review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/verizon-galaxy-nexus-review/
We already knew more-or-less what we were getting with the Verizon rendition of the Galaxy Nexus, and ultimately it delivers. Yes, battery life predictably takes a hit compared to the HSPA+ when you enable LTE, and it's safe to say this version of the phone has a bit more to love than the earlier release, but neither of those are deal-breakers. This, like the other version, is a great phone. At $300 with a two-year contract ($650 without) it is not cheap, but if you must have the best, it's well worth it.
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HSPA+: http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/24/galaxy-nexus-hspa-review/
Let's not beat around the bush. The Galaxy Nexus is definitely the best Android phone available today -- it's possibly even the best phone available today, period. Sure, it's not perfect -- we're disappointed that the camera doesn't deliver the same wow factor as the rest of the handset. It's an alright shooter, but it's just no match for the state-of-the-art. There's also room for improvement in terms of build and materials quality. Still, there's no denying the satisfying look and feel, the stunning display, the impressive performance, the excellent battery life -- the whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.
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.. and yes the phone does get hot when you play games, although it has stopped getting that hot when I started using franco kernel because the phone is being undervolted. GPU is also increased to 386 MHz (or something like that.. a boost from clock GPU). The speaker is kind of low but getting Volume+ (or flashing DSP Manager) will fix that straight up. Set volume+ to +8 and all will be good.
This is a stock Google experience and is a far better experience than what the RAZR and Rezound can offer. ICS 4.0.3/4.0.2 is simply amazing.

Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.

tannor said:
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.

zephiK said:
They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?

tannor said:
Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
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Well Gingerbread (2.3.X) came out a long time ago. And phones said "upgradable to 2.3.X" and didn't get it until 6-7 months later. I mean you can use a custom ROM and all that but development is limited when kernels aren't open-sourced that are used for that specific Android version and blah blah blah (too technical to type out).
I've used a Samsung Vibrant, and it heavily relied on leaked Samsung builds by samfirmwares. It was getting really old.
4.0.3 is officially released on the Nexus S but the update was halted due to bugs. But I've been running 4.0.3 with custom ROMs and battery life has been amazing. I'm currently using a leaked bootloader update (PRIMEKL01) and battery life is even better with this bootloader.
4.0.3 is officially released in AOSP, so anyone can compile AOSP 4.0.3. But the latest OTA is 4.0.2 as 4.0.3 is halted (as mentioned previously). So it's not necessarily leaked in any way.
I'd personally recommend you to use custom ROMs + franco kernel. You can check the GSM/CDMA forums and view users' feedback. Idle is amazing with that kernel. If you wish to not root right away, at least unlock the bootloader first so if you change your mind. You can root it and use Titanium Backup (or any other app that does the same) and backup your stuff. Otherwise you'll lose your data when you do decide to root.
Keep in mind, I believe you should have a 14 (or 30 day) return if you are unsatisfied with the phone.

Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?

tannor said:
Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458

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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Oh that is awesome did not know can get it directly from google.

nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02

aohus said:
nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.

tannor said:
I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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there is no 3G/4G toggle on stock ICS. You can, however, download a widget off the market place and use that as a toggle. you'd have to go to settings -> more -> mobile networks -> network mode to change it otherwise.
hopefully google/verizon will update their baseband firmware and bring better battery life. i think thats whats causing a lot of the battery performance issues on LTE.
thing is, even with good 4G signal, if you watch a youtube video in HD, you'll see the batt % dwindle very quickly. watching a 5 minute hd clip would reduce the battery life by as much as 7-10% give or take.
the saving grace with this phone is the massive support from both google and the community. its the only reason why i'm holding onto this phone over any other 4G phone at the moment.
fyi the users that chime in this subforum either have the gsm or cdma version. depending on who you talk to, the cdma user will most likely ***** more about batt life than the GSM user.

If you are going to stay on Verizon then I personally don't see any other choice Although I would still take a GS2 over the GN in hardware but damn ICS is just such a nice OS.... even when its slow.

tannor said:
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.

tommyz2kool said:
TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.

Battery is affected on all 4G LTE phones for the most part. So it's not just the Galaxy Nexus. With custom ROMs, and kernels they can help to bring out the most of your battery life. But definitely battery will be your biggest issue, if you disable 4G LTE... that may be a way around it and only activate it when you really need it.
Also, the Rezound doesn't have NFC capabilities. NFC will be the future, so this is something to think about if you want to make payments with your phone.
Ultimately the decision is yours, http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Verizon-Galaxy-Nexus-vs-HTC-Rezound_id2938
Google a bunch of "rezound vs galaxy nexus" posts and read them. In the end, you choose which you'd think would fit you.
Latest updates and stock Google experience: Galaxy Nexus for sure.

I'm just gonna root and use a 4G toggle and only use 4G when I'm really trying to do some fast tasks, so otherwise, wifi and 3G for basic stuff like FB should get me some decent battery life.

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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
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I've had both the Rezound and the GNex and didn't think the battery life was any better on the Rezound.

I've gotten better battery life personally with my nexus compared to my brothers Rezound. Rezound was not too good for him.
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I got the Rezound when it first came out. Didn't really have any signal issues like I'm reading most 4G phones have. With that said I did have horrible battery life and usually tried keeping it in CMDA/3G mode unless I was streaming videos.
Gaming or browsing while 4G was on had my Rezound pushing temps of low 140*F...
I also had the famous buzzing issue and the "beats" aren't what they're cracked up to be. The other thing was I got tired of the Rezound looking just like my Incredible.
But the screen was amazing.
It too took awful pic's however. They looked great on screen, terrible when the file was transferred to a computer...
But I will say you don't read about any of the signal issues that you read about with the GNex.

Upgrade is here. Is E4GT worth it?

I know the screen, processor, etc is great...but i'm having doubts about all the radio issues (gps, signal, etc). I checked out the sprint forums and pretty much all of them were about gps and signal pretty much sucking. Are you guys having these issues with custom roms? Should i wait till the issues are cleared (or not)?

Signal is pretty good with custom roms
Idk about gps
I don't use it so often
But battery life is super amazing
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globalninja said:
I know the screen, processor, etc is great...but i'm having doubts about all the radio issues (gps, signal, etc). I checked out the sprint forums and pretty much all of them were about gps and signal pretty much sucking. Are you guys having these issues with custom roms? Should i wait till the issues are cleared (or not)?
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new (SGSIIE4GT) user here, and loving (and I mean LOVING) this phone.
i'm not having those issue on stock, OOTB, even. (meaning, I am rooted, but still on the stock ROM, out of the box. I've only upgraded the modem, and no GPS/signal issues at all)
ever since kern/modem EK02 those were (mostly) non issues.
from what I read, most of the custom ROMs either only improve, or cause no worse.
and yes, CPU/GPU, RAM and storage (internal), screen, lack of Sense, all worth it.

kingdazy said:
new (SGSIIE4GT) user here, and loving (and I mean LOVING) this phone.
i'm not having those issue on stock, OOTB, even. (meaning, I am rooted, but still on the stock ROM, out of the box. I've only upgraded the modem, and no GPS/signal issues at all)
ever since kern/modem EK02 those were (mostly) non issues.
from what I read, most of the custom ROMs either only improve, or cause no worse.
and yes, CPU/GPU, RAM and storage (internal), screen, lack of Sense, all worth it.
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I concur... This phone is SICK! Been through quite a few phones, and this one is bar none the best yet. Haven't had too many issues with the radio, but they are there. Roam control and the 1115 PRL pretty much fixed any issues that I was having though. The only reason I would maybe wait would be for the Galaxy Note, coming out relatively soon. But if you do decide to go with the E4GT you always have 14 days to return if you don't like it.

Phone is awesome. The signal issue is with sprint not the phone....imo. If you already have sprint and are happy you should be fine. Gps works great for me. I use it everyday.
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I thought they still had a 14 day period where you could try it out and still able to return without penalty? If so, why not try it for a week or 2 and see for yourself?
Phone is amazing and I am truly happy with what I have.

So, no one has problems with GPS and loss of signal?

the phone is worth it. I love mine hands down my #1 of phones right now even over the GNexus. I've got a few friends that wish they had early upgrades wanting this thing that are stuck on Evo's
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As for LOS/GPS I had LOS when the phone first came out here and there but with the newer updates it's been fine I've yet to see a LOS sign on my phone. GPs I've never really had an issue with but I do know others have I just have not run into it.

I got my phone 1 Dec and have never had a LOS once. I play "Life is Crime", multiple times a day, which requires GPS and have never had an issue.
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No GPS issues and no LoS here... great phone. Super fast and slick. Do the upgrade, you won't regret it.

Wait for the GSIII.
This phone will be surpassed soon. Also the Galaxy Note may come out for us.
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... the problem with waiting is you will get stuck in an endless loop of waiting. I agree this phone since the updates is now solid. at release it was iffy. but they were mainly software bugs.

Android300ZX said:
Wait for the GSIII.
This phone will be surpassed soon. Also the Galaxy Note may come out for us.
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Wait (at least) 6+ months for possibly a new "better" device that will have almost no dev roms?
No thanks.
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I'm loving this phone too! As you can see in my sig, I've owned many Android phones. This is the best one yet. No signal problems here. I haven't used GPS on it yet though since I got a stand alone one ...

No problems for me at all, for the past 4 months. (That's how long I've had it so far)
It was a transition from my former iPhone 4. I love it greatly. No LoS for me ever, but I do have problems with GPS here and there. Although, as of recent, it's been able to pinpoint where my location is and such.
Have been using Blazer ROM on it as well. I don't think I'd have it any other way. And with counterparts coming out (GSII Skyrocket/Note/etc.) I don't find myself WANTING those handsets. That's how awesome the phone has been to me, I just don't see a need to get anything else than this.

I've had NO problems with this phone. It's great, actually one problem and thats battery life. But thats because i use way too much (i just got an extended battery so that issue was solved). =D!!!! GET IT NOW!!!!

I decided on getting this phone. I had the Epic 4g so i am familiar with roms, kernels , and such. I actually would have stayed with the Epic if I wouldn't have dropped and broken it, but since I have an upgrade I might as well get an upgrade. I honestly thing a single core 1ghz proc was fast enough. A dual core 1.2ghz will last me years. Thanks for all the input!

globalninja said:
I decided on getting this phone. I had the Epic 4g so i am familiar with roms, kernels , and such. I actually would have stayed with the Epic if I wouldn't have dropped and broken it, but since I have an upgrade I might as well get an upgrade. I honestly thing a single core 1ghz proc was fast enough. A dual core 1.2ghz will last me years. Thanks for all the input!
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Awesome! Welcome to the family...

No GPS or LoS here.
Did have some low signal issues in my house but a free airave solved that.
If I were you, and depending on when the Nexus comes out for Sprint, I would wait for that. LTE support and more update support. Although the hardware on the Nexus apparently is lacking compared to this.
Regardless I'm very happy with this phone.

I've had this phone since the first day is was available and its pros far outweigh its negatives. 4G reception is great, but 3G is not as good as it was on my Optimus S. Battery life is fantastic.

Considering an S3, but have questions!

It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.

Bump. Doesn't anyone have any input about this phone? -_-

Most if not all of your question are answered in other post, people just get tired and rewriting everything. So dont expect the same questions to get answered every time.
So your coming from some less desired devices, you will deff see dev support on a much higher level. I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx

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Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
trilaxx said:
I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx
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That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.

I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.

pytyper483 said:
I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.
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Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.

Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.

Ace42 said:
Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.
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Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
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Ace42 said:
Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.
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Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..

1SiK1500 said:
Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..
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Well that is very good news, I prefer to hear experiences from people who have at least owned similar or same phones as myself.
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Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.
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Well I am happy to hear that it's not a mess like the Sensation. It had a nice look to it, but speed wise it was a joke for a dualcore phone. If you say there's no lag on ICS, then I can only imagine what would happen if it got JB+project butter. I guess you have put my fear of lag to rest. However I will wait a little while longer to see if Dev support picks up, right now it seems to be where tmobile's SII+amaze were at in their early life(which was a bad place). Once I see at least 10 active aosp/aopk/CM10 ROMs I will definitely get one. Thanks for everything! :fingers-crossed:

Ace42 said:
It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.
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1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.

elracing21 said:
1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.
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Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:

Ace42 said:
Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:
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You are welcome bro. Don't get me wrong most of the Bronx does have terrible speed in comparison to Manhattan but there are a few areas where the speeds have surprised me. Like a train stop away from here I get great speeds. 10mbps on avg.
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the only problem i had and it happened with 3 from tmobile was the phone was getting very warm. so i got the note from t mobile and the performance difference is very noticable. the s3 is a power house fast internet load speeds smooth and the screen compared to the already beautiful screen on the note is sharper and brighter. I had the black crush issue with the note blacks were horrid so i received another s3 today i have them both in front of me and love em both but am gonna stick with the s3 because of the performance and the screen. If the new note has the inners of the s3 and a 5.3-5.5 inch screen the s3 will be history i love the size of the note..what im trying to say i would not buy a phone with anything less then the s4 snapdragon in .Plus if you want to upgrade the s3 will be desirable and hold its value for a while so you could sell in the future for the next best thing..

Possible to get faster data with GNex and Tmobile US?

So after 2 years of owning a Vibrant, I decided to get a new phone. Was debating getting a SGS2 or a Gnex. Ended up getting a GNex, and I am happy almost every which way, except the one thing that hit me, that I did not know before buying.
The GNex is an HSPA+21Mbps phone, while the SGS2 is a 42Mbps phone. Yes we get nowhere near that anyway, but I cant get more than 7Mbps on my Gnex, while all my friends with SGS2s are easily hitting 12Mbps with 2-3 bars, and up to 20Mbps on full bar.
This is a bit of a deal breaker for me, and now google wants a 15% restocking fee for me returning the phone. Which I am not going to do.
So my question to you guys is, will flashing to another modem or any other rom help me increase my data speeds for Tmobile US? I would be just fine with 7Mpbs, but thats only when it has FULL signal. Anything less and its more like 1.5Mpbs-3Mbps at best.

Its possible a new radio will help. I have never noticed a difference. I always average about 5 mb down with every radio I tried. In comparison I came from a t mobile s2 and only got 7 down at best.
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And I wouldn't worry about being charged a restocking fee. Hit up craigslist and trade it. You could probably even get someone to give you their sgs2 + cash.
Personally I'd stick with the GNex. That's just my opinion though. Its a way better phone.
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I am loving the phone it self, and the screen is just beautiful, everything about it. (other than a sub par external speaker)
I am not worried about data too much, 7Mbps is just fine for me, just that I can only get that with full bar, if I have 3-4 bars, its at like 3-4Mbps, maximum.
All in all it is a better phone that the SGS2, in fact MUCH better, just wish it was HSPDA 42Mpbs compatible.
I am probably just going to keep it and do some flashing to see what happens.

TheProfiteer said:
I am loving the phone it self, and the screen is just beautiful, everything about it. (other than a sub par external speaker)
I am not worried about data too much, 7Mbps is just fine for me, just that I can only get that with full bar, if I have 3-4 bars, its at like 3-4Mbps, maximum.
All in all it is a better phone that the SGS2, in fact MUCH better, just wish it was HSPDA 42Mpbs compatible.
I am probably just going to keep it and do some flashing to see what happens.
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Real world scenarios you are fine with gnex. If you want to impress your friends, that sux!
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Must suck to have such problems. I would LOVE to get 7 mbps!

Impress your friends? How? By a big number from an app? How bout the fact you have JB.....theres alot more that goes into loading a webpage fast than data speed
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What radios are you using???
I know it helped my toro Nexus.
I love this phone. My wife is getting a little jealous.

Knowpig said:
What radios are you using???
I know it helped my toro Nexus.
I love this phone. My wife is getting a little jealous.
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I'm wondering this as well.
I was given a Galaxy Nexus and it has terrible signal strength.
I have tried 3 different radios and two different roms with the same results.
I think there may be a hardware problem.

Yeah reception on it is always one bar less than the SGS2. Buddy has an SGS2 with Milstone 6, and everywhere we go he has at least one bar over me, and I find my self rarely with full signal, and I live in the Atlanta burbs.
Again tho, so many reasons to love this phone over the SGS's even the 3. I had a chance to play with one, its nice, its massive, but having no hard buttons on the screen at all is really nice.
Since I stick with my 2GB limit, i dont think data will be an issue, just sucks that its not, but I'll live.
oh and I am still on JB stock rom, about to go give Milstone 6 a go, I love me my AOKP.

How's the wireless radio on your Nexus? (Verizon Wireless - CDMA)

I've heard the GS3 radio for Verizon wasn't so hot. I use to rock the GS2 on Sprint and that radio was horrible. How is it on the Galaxy Nexus? It's my number one concern for my cell phones.
I also have heard and seen reviews that the battery is really bad? Are there roms out that make the battery life decent on this device?
I love my RAZR Maxx and I do realize the battery life of any other phone can't come close. But I miss flashing roms. I'll be honest I came to Verizon and intended to get the G-Nexus right away but the dude in the store convinced me the battery was so bad it made the phone almost unusable. And I left my previous carrier because of service and radio issues.
I would really like to know from those of you who have the G-Nexus on Verizon Wireless.
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Yep, it's odd how phone reviews rarely focus on radio performance. They're more interested in talking about a hip new operating system, how the phone feels in your hand, screen and camera resolution, etc. But the truth is, erratic data connections and crappy calls make these things difficult to use. Buyer beware.

No experience with the MAXX to compare other than seeing the scary long uptimes people give for it...but I haven't had a ton of problems with my verizon gnex in the end. Radio problems were more prevalent when the phone came out, but mine is fairly solid now. Never had trouble lasting through the day on ICS, a lot of JB roms seem to be getting less battery life for me, but are improving over time with new kernels and such.
In summary, my complaints don't really involve signal strength, they are: limited screen on time (2-3.5 hours of screen on to kill the batt), good but not great camera. Both of which are improved on the S3, along with signal strength improved...if I was picking now I'd go for that. Though maybe not to the tune of $200 more for that phone, hmm...

The GS3 has a locked boot loader, but I saw that it can be unlocked now. If it shipped unlocked I would probably consider that over a G-Nexus , even though Google phones tend to have better development they're falling behind on hardware. Now that I think about it I'll wait a bit longer to see what the next Google phone brings, if Verizon gets it.
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