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Desire 2.4 and 3.0

Hi there. I have been thinking, if there is android 2.4 rom for HTC Desire. I am using cyanogen mod 7 (2.3.3) and I am satisfied with it, but I want the latest one. And also is there any stable release of honeycomb around there?
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The simple answer for both questions is "No".
2.3 is the latest, 2.4 probably won't be out sometime. If it were you'd see it in the dev section.
Honeycomb is for tablets. If you want it, buy a tablet. There are devs working on porting it to the Desire, but to be honest, I don't see the point.

2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3

Thank you very much. I will buy tablet with honeycomb, but I just wanted to try it out on my Desire. And I thought 2.4 was for every phone, but thanks for correcting me.

bob1369 said:
2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3
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¿?
Sorry, but no
Probable, 2.4 will be a first implementation of some of the 3.0 features to phones, not only for dual core phones!! Im pretty sure that HTC will release a 2.4 for Desire.

bob1369 said:
2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3
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Looks to me like thats pure assumption. 2.3 is not 3.0.
Neither is 2.4 2.3 for dual cores.
It is speculated that 2.4 will support dual core phones.
However there is nothing officially stating any of the above, so I'm not sure where this info of yours comes from.

3.0 was built from scratch purely for tablets, it has absolutely nothing to do with any previous version.
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Barnabas4ever said:
Hi there. I have been thinking, if there is android 2.4 rom for HTC Desire. I am using cyanogen mod 7 (2.3.3) and I am satisfied with it, but I want the latest one. And also is there any stable release of honeycomb around there?
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it is possible to flash the honeycomb port to your desire if you desperatelty want 2 test it al though allotta features wont work. but if u r in it just to get a look at honeycomb, give her a try

Terepin said:
3.0 was built from scratch purely for tablets, it has absolutely nothing to do with any previous version.
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Where do you get this from? It's certainly not built from scratch. A couple of devs even think that the reason Google is not releasing the source code of 3.0 is because it's just a bunch of hacks.

2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's

Afaik Google renamed version 2.4 you saw on a device on mwc in Barcelona to 2.3.3 because there were too little changes from the first release of gingerbread on the nexus s to "2.4"
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bob1369 said:
2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's
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Pure speculation.
Source?

mr_norris said:
Pure speculation.
Source?
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Engadget claimed HTC were describing ll their phones as 2.3 when some actually run a version normally referred to as 2.4 they said this was to avoid confusion, personally i would have called them all 2.4

bob1369 said:
Engadget claimed HTC were describing ll their phones as 2.3 when some actually run a version normally referred to as 2.4 they said this was to avoid confusion, personally i would have called them all 2.4
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if im still wrong im sorry but i do know the difference isn't great

bob1369 said:
2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's
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2.4 is nothing more than 2.3 with dual-core support. And it isn't out yet.

Im sure we will get an icecream port which is just like honeycomb for phones.
this is a quote out of some news i read. some of you probably already know this
but for those that dont this could be usefull :
Details on Ice Cream
According to an interview between PhoneScoop and Google Android Engineering Director Dave Burke, Ice Cream will bring Honeycomb's "Action Bar" to Gingerbread. This is the bar that brings the contextual, app-specific buttons to the top of the screen.
Burke also said that Honeycomb's "System Bar" (the bar at the bottom) may not come to phones, but would remain a tablet-only feature. The hologram-esque visual styling found in Honeycomb will arrive in Ice Cream, though, as will Honeycomb's multi-tasking app switcher functionality.

[Q] HTC Sense 3.0 on wildfire S?

Is it possible to port HTC sense 3.0 to the Marvel/Wildfire S? I would love the features of Sense 3.0 on my wildfire S.

Not possible, jikantaru hasn't succeeded porting it from htc explorer.

If he didn't succeed, it doesn't mean it's impossible.

Of course it is possible, Explorer is the same as marvel, only camera is 3Mpixel, not 5 like in WFS. Same means: RAM, CPU, display, radios, etc.
It's a cheaper version( very low end device).

right, maybe any other can try to port.
Hope that anyone can port sense 3.0 to our good wildfire s.
But i think ICS is more important

ok
Thanks for the info guys, I will look into ICS.

ONeill123 said:
right, maybe any other can try to port.
Hope that anyone can port sense 3.0 to our good wildfire s.
But i think ICS is more important
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ICS only from CM team, wait few weeks for it.
Explorer HAS sense 3.5, not 3.0.

only that the explorer has a ARM7 processor, and probably more computing power and WFS only old ARM6
CPU clock can have the same but the technology is newer

buber82 said:
ICS only from CM team, wait few weeks for it.
Explorer HAS sense 3.5, not 3.0.
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and even this 3.5 is a light version, so no full sense like on the flagship phones

buber82 said:
Of course it is possible, Explorer is the same as marvel, only camera is 3Mpixel, not 5 like in WFS. Same means: RAM, CPU, display, radios, etc.
It's a cheaper version( very low end device).
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The Explorer has a better chipset (newer MSM7225A vs. MSM7227) and according to the synthetic benchmarks in this review (near bottom of page), the Explorer "blows past the old Wildfire S" despite having the same CPU and GPU.
I'm not familiar enough with Android to know if different chipset drivers would pose a problem for porting Sense to the WFS.

Is there a chance we could just have the launcher with the transitions, I really like them.

[Q] [IDEA] [ICS] Hardware Acceleration

Hello everyone,
i am a noob here and don't know any coding or development.
When i see ports of rome from one similar device to another like the Htc One V to the Htc Desire S/HD, i think the same can be done for the kindle.
Since the new Samsung GalaxyTab 2, 7.0 (P3110) has almost identical hardware in the CPU/GPU department, would it be easier to port the rom / kernel to get the hardware acceleration in ICS as it is already running ICS. Please tell me if i am correct/wrong in making this assumption.
I don't own a kindle fire, but am going to buy one soon.
The only reason to buy the kindle is because of you developers out there.
Thanks guys, and hope you find a fix for this soon.

mani_raikkonen said:
Hello everyone,
i am a noob here and don't know any coding or development.
When i see ports of rome from one similar device to another like the Htc One V to the Htc Desire S/HD, i think the same can be done for the kindle.
Since the new Samsung GalaxyTab 2, 7.0 (P3110) has almost identical hardware in the CPU/GPU department, would it be easier to port the rom / kernel to get the hardware acceleration in ICS as it is already running ICS. Please tell me if i am correct/wrong in making this assumption.
I don't own a kindle fire, but am going to buy one soon.
The only reason to buy the kindle is because of you developers out there.
Thanks guys, and hope you find a fix for this soon.
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ICS we have its a kernel with all the drivers we dont and there isnt one out for the same chipset and ram size... but hashcode is close on his kernel that will make ICS perfect

Hashcode is developing a 3.0 kernel which features HW acceleration among other things.
Check out his thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591869

[Q] Original sense 4 for desire hd

So I've seen some cool htc one X roms (real sense 4) for other htc devices. My question is can we build a Real sense 4 rom for desire hd I know that it isnt easy but they built a sense 4 rom for mytouch 4g which is not a better phone compared to desire hd.

tugonu said:
So I've seen some cool htc one X roms (real sense 4) for other htc devices. My question is can we build a Real sense 4 rom for desire hd I know that it isnt easy but they built a sense 4 rom for mytouch 4g which is not a better phone compared to desire hd.
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If your question stops at "can we..." then the answer to this is sure, as you can see the devs already developed ics from source (on your face htc devs) meaning it was made from scratch with no help whatsoever from the vendor (htc) now porting sense 4 is possible but it'll take some time before that because the first priority is either to wait for leaked desire hd official update for camcoder to work or coming up with a patch which'll be hard.
Not sure but i think i've seen a port with full sense 4 but not sure if it is for desire hd or did i see it in another phone section.

htc sense 4
there are 2 sense 4 roms at the moment for desire hd based on the htc one s but no camera working yet..se3nse 4 rom is primo 3.3

Its possible to port it but not sure if it will work properly because there is hardware differences the one x is a quad core phone ours is a single core so it will be verry slow however the primo s is a port from one v wich is single core so i think it will be the best

If by original you mean the full sense 4 [One x and s] i believe to have read that apart from the quad-core processor even if the DHD could theoretically run sense 4 the system partition is to small to fit full sense 4 and thats why we only get the [lite] sense 4A that comes with the one v. I might be wrong or there could be compression methods for fitting it in the DHD but it would probably slow things even more.

EVO Design 4G (Boost Mobile) - May 31st - MSM8655 w/ ICS

Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)

dirkdigles said:
Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)
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its possible *something* could come of their kernel source, but who knows
really we will ultimately need our own kernel source (not even our cousin inc s/dhd/desire s source) to build a functional 3.xx kernel with working radio....not that its impossible i guess, but what is actually likely
as for pulling the rom itself, it would have to be resized to scale properly (unless htc included hdpi images in all the apks (unlikely), and if we really wanted sense 3.6 i could have ported it from the sensation xl (didnt seem worth it, since we ll ultimately get our own version at some point, and sense 4 is so much better imo)
but the best take away is what you said: that its good to see htc has ics going on our chipset...which is always a positive