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Hi guys, any news android 3 update and what features it brings for us.
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Darkzen15 said:
Hi guys, any news android 3 update and what features it brings for us.
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Darkzen15 said:
Hi guys, any news android 3 update and what features it brings for us.
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Yes, it works great on my HTC Touch Diamond!
I will send a link for the OTA update to your Desire in a few seconds...
Please wait for it and don't respond to this thread in the mean time...
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This question pops up every few days and the answer is always the same:
You can depend on it that any news on new Android versions will be posted here as soon as it's available!
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There was a rumour that it was due out next month, but the dev's got sidetracked when they inadvertently found an entrance to Narnia

I've heard Google are incorporating a Mind Search for our gingerbreadz, along with a ray gun and a Wally finder.
Makes life easier!
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I heard it has an instant lolcat app!
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Trying the serious take:
It is said [read: rumoured], that Android 3.0 will mostly be about the interface. But one problem is that if you have HTC Sense, it'll be unlikely you will see this native 3.0 interface on your phone. But it should at least bring a lot of new stuff to your Desire. - Of course, it's possible to stop Sense from running, but you won't get exactly what I'm talking about this way.
The jump from a number like 2.1 or 2.2 to 3.0 is a rather big one, so I'm expecting a lot from it.
Also, anyone know of an official confirmation that 'gingerbread' is actually 3.0? Since there are rumours going about saying the next update would be called 'honeycomb'. It'd be too early to know anything about another version of Android if you ask me.
My biggest wish is just that this new interface thing they're working on will add the right amount of polish. That's one little thing I miss of Android, the consistency of applications and stuff - everything is different and there are no apps which share the same smoothness between eachother, but that's also due to how easily people can put something in the Android Market.
I know, if I want consistency and smoothness and the best looking interfaces, I should go for an iPhone. That's my own opinion by the way. It's just that I really like Android phones and the operating system, but dislike how everything looks so different from eachother. (unlike on the iPhone)
Please, Android 3.0, make the wait worthwhile..

Turns out 'Jaffacake' has been leaked and will be in a CM6 nightly soon ;D
http://twitgoo.com/1j4zyx
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prodygee said:
Trying the serious take:
It is said [read: rumoured], that Android 3.0 will mostly be about the interface. But one problem is that if you have HTC Sense, it'll be unlikely you will see this native 3.0 interface on your phone. But it should at least bring a lot of new stuff to your Desire. - Of course, it's possible to stop Sense from running, but you won't get exactly what I'm talking about this way.
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Who said that the desire will get 3.0 in the first place ????

Desire sure not first,but when Nexus will started next will be Desire

lolzzz... really funny replies here does brings smile after hard day's work

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Who said that the desire will get 3.0 in the first place ????
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hensk said:
Desire sure not first,but when Nexus will started next will be Desire
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Yep, as we've seen from the Froyo roms, as soon as Android 3.0 hits the Nexus there will be ports and when it hits the AOSP it'll be compiled for the Desire. It may not ever be officially released for the Desire by HTC, but we'll get it somehow.

From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.

scaryzid said:
From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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And you don't consider a Desire "high end"? Droid X and Evo might have a bigger screen but the resolution is the same as the Desire. The Evo, besides the bigger screen and 4G, isn't more powerful or "high end"-er than the Desire...

scaryzid said:
From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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Erm, Evo, Droid X and desire/n1 are essentially the same hardware underneath I mean 1ghz cpu, 512 ram ..

unrealnet said:
Erm, Evo, Droid X and desire/n1 are essentially the same hardware underneath I mean 1ghz cpu, 512 ram ..
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The Desire has slightly more RAM

scaryzid said:
From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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The Desire fits nicely above the required hardware specifications
Well who knows if they're 100% accurate... Still the Desires probably one of the best Android phones out there so it'll be possible they wouldn't make it so much more needed than what exists now.

Wen can I haz Sense 3.0?

I know there are loads of sense roms out there and there's now a tonne of HD sense roms available too, but I've never really been a fan of sense.... until I saw 3.0.
Anyone know if there are any roms in the works or any ports I can flash?
I have searched and it turned up with nothing. I know it probably won't fit on NAND, but it should work with ext4.
Can't wait to try it out.

HTC have said that Sense 3.0 needs certain hardware to run properly, so it probably won't work 100% on anything other than the devices they've stated.
The Sense 3.0/Sensation ROM port to the DesireHD works to a certain degree but the screen resolution renders it useless IMO.
I'm not sure if Sense 3.0 requires a specific screen res?

I've also heard this. The thing that was giving me hope was that devs can change the resolution. It was done with Honeycomb ports to other smartphones. I suppose someone much smarter than myself could work out a way.
Or I could just wait and buy a Sensation

I have been following the guys over on the EVO section who have been trying to get sense 3 working on the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035350&page=159#
The only differences in the spec of an EVO and a Desire are the screen size 4.3" vs 3.7", EVO has a 8 megapixel vs Desire 5 megapixel. The EVO also has a front facing camera. Same screen resolution at 480 x 800, same 1GHz processor, 512 ram.
I suppose what I am saying is I am sure that once they have it sorted in the EVO forum, one of the devs from this forum might be interested in getting it sorted for us. The lockscreen on sense 3.0 is amazing, so is the 3D like home screens. If we had only those, I would be a very happy chappy indeed. Hint hint. Are any devs going to be looking at it at some point please?

As far as I can see, a leak of Sense 3.0 with the HTC Desire Screen Resolution has been found, so it should be available once the devs have worked on it, etcetera?

desire developer already have the sense 3.0 rom that have the same resolution with desire.. just wait and hoping they will port it into our beloved desire..

That would be sweet, holding thumbs until then

Anyone interested in helping port Sense to the MI-One?

Howdy All!
You probably don't know, but I am (or was until recently) the dev over at MIUI_Au. About a month ago, MIUI shipped out engineering samples of their MI-One device. All the 'third party' translation effort leaders (except, sadly, our own XJ), including me, received a unit (as well as another 500 lucky Chinese users who had to 'win' one).
So I am in possession of an MI-One, which comes with MIUI as standard (obviously).
The world of Android (and indeed XDA as a whole) wouldn't be what it is unless people had ambition.
MIUI will release the M1 eventually, and it will be priced at around half that of the Evo3D ($350 USD).
What follows seems only logical, then.
I know nothing about porting, by the way. So...the main question: Is anyone game enough to help (or rather me help anyone) with getting a head start on a port?
Cheers,
Josh.

Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.

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Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.

bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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Agree, even if porting is possible drivers are a great issue. Maybe its an option to port just the rosie.apk and the framework? (just an idea, my knowledge on this subject is very limit too...)

rafaelegomezb said:
It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.
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Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.

bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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One of the major differences in this situation is that the MI-One is built with same SOC as the Evo3D/Sensation - the MSM8660. All bluetooth, wifi, gps, GPU-related, CPU-related and mmc and storage related drivers would likely be the same (or at least very similar).
It isn't like porting it to a device which has a completely different set of components.
Josh.

rootSU said:
Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.
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So am i. After a while sense starts to show its flaws. Sense is a good experience, but stock is the pure android experience ! And with launcher pro and sense clock (the sense clock is the best thing i've seen!) i've built a better experience than sense itself. This days there're widgets and launcher skins to everything. You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen

Yekxmerr said:
You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen
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Well, not really. Acctually, I really don't like some of the new widgets. The clock, for example - I much prefer the old one which flipped faster.
But also, Sense ROMs are about proper facebook contact synching, synching with outlook and tethering that works well. All of this works out of the box, and all of it is done in style.
Anyway, it is a little off topic.
Kindly respond to the original question if you are interested, developers.

Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...

Mi-One would be awesome with a sense rom imo.

coolexe said:
Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...
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Fair Dibs.
You are probably right - I only posted in the Desire section out of habit. I just updated the index and went from their. Well, that, and I know that there are some very skilled developers here.
You did raise an interesting point though: While the hardware is quite similar, the partition scheme is much more complicated (with two system partitions).
Josh

2? Why?
10char

Anyway, it can be done. But without owning the device, it's impossible to test out ideas. Partition layouts are the simple part. Nothing some smart symlinking can't correct.
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Supernova Extreme Rom - 450 apps and counting. .

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MI-ONE thread
Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..

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Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..
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Am from UK were would be best to buy one of these phones from?

Kernel 3.0?

Hi there,
I've just join this zone for haft a month and wanna to do something with this `Dev Dream Phone`. (I'm talking about G2 & Desire Z in this thread)
I see there are many ICS ROMs ported from CM9, MIUI v4 but not see any kernel 3.0 for it.
I think this thread could help to discuss and help to merge current branch of kernel 2.6.35 to 3.0 then we will have more features from v3, compatible with ICS, less problem and good performance since inherited many improvement from v3.
So, for get started with, I will need someone who know exactly current state of development / port for this device. It will be more easy after we have a clearly view.
Some questions:
- Which is best kernel implemented / tweaked / modded known work for ICS or GB on this device ?
- Where are there repositories?
- Any effort to port kernel 3.0 to make it work on this device?
- Anyone success to boot a ROM with kernel 3.0?
- Any problem we are facing?
Update 1:
- Sensation HTC Kernel HTC 3.0.16: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448799
Thank you for reading and wishing we will have success with this update.
Regard & Cheer from Vietnam
Voice of Uoc Nguyen

We need to wait for a leaked version of a 3.0 kernel for our chipset, don't we ? Maybe the leak of the Sensation XL ROM that was posted about recently might help (Sensation XL has same chipset as DHD, i.e. same as us).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Yeah, I think so, it is easier for us while Sensation has same chipset as our devices.

fyi:
https://github.com/nexx/htc-kernel-msm7x30-3.0
good luck

quote from (today) rmk's twitter
@rmk40
Looks like the release ICS base from HTC is out for the Sensation. Will be working on updating Virtuous Sensation this weekend.
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The Sensation is not msm7x30 and will not help in anyway.

Just check Sensation and see it is using difference chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8260, but at least it is HTC & Qualcomm so, hope it will be not very difficult!

Sensation is a different chipset, but Sensation XL is the same as ours
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

What's wrong?
I browse specs on pdadb.net and see that all Sensation phones are using MSM 82xx while our is MSM 72xx
FYI, http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3094&c=htc_sensation_xl_x315__bass_htc_runnymede

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What's wrong?
I browse specs on pdadb.net and see that all Sensation phones are using MSM 82xx while our is MSM 72xx
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Not all MSM82xx are the same as ours. Sensation (Pyramid) uses MSM8260, which is a different chipset (e.g. Adreno 220 GPU vs our Adreno 205). Sensation XE uses that too. Sensation XL uses MSM8255 and that's the same as Desire HD and Desire S, which is also the same chipset (just different clock speed) as our MSM7230.
So ICS for Sensation XL will help us a lot (same chipset). ICS for Sensation or Sensation XE doesn't really help us at all.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Forget about getting kernel source from HTC. It isn't going to happen. This work has to be done the HARD WAY.

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Forget about getting kernel source from HTC. It isn't going to happen. This work has to be done the HARD WAY.
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Nope, I have to disappoint you but once htc releases the kernel for the Sensation XL, Desire S or Desire HD, we will be able to reuse most of that for our devices. Also the leak of the XL will be a great base to start building a fully functioning ics rom (with proper gpu and camera drivers). So chin up and be positive
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???
HTC has already released kernel source for previous releases, so they'll do the same for ICS. Maybe you were referring to the source for proprietary drivers which they won't release, but that's fine because we don't need that anyway, we can just use the compiled libraries etc (e.g. we don't have HTC source code for some of the drivers for Gingerbread for our phone, but we still have lots of great GB ROMs).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

HTC have GB upgrade via OTA then we have a lots of GB ROMs is of course, ICS is a bit harder but we have many ROMs here anyway
And this device is absolutely open everything then it is not very hard to get something work except when we reach limit of technical like memory size, Internal Storage or CPU power...
So, be positive

HTC Sense 4.0 on Galaxy Nexus?

I know I'm probably going to get shot down but hear me out at least.
Before HTC announced Sense 4.0, I wasn't a massive fan of the sense experience - so much that I was runny vanilla android on my HTC Desire.
However, with the announcement of Sense 4.0 my opinions changed. I didn't think it would be possible to get it on non HTC devices due to how much sense is built into the OS and hardware, but I noticed that someone has successfully managed to port the HTC Endeavour RUU to their Nexus S albeit with not much working. We do however have a newer device, with a 720p screen which the HTC Endeavour RUU uses.
Don't get my wrong I love ICS, but there's something about the new sense incorporated with it.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't know where to begin to do the said work, but I was just wondering how many people feel the same.
What are the chances of a dev taking up the project, I would be more than happy to donate.

Not going to happen.
HTC uses different chipsets than Samsung.
Sense hasn't been run on TI processors, mostly Snapdragons and according to the HTC Endeavor specs, now Tegra 3 is thrown into that mix.
It makes it impossible to port it over to have a fully functioning port with everything working. You may be able to get it to boot, but not too much else.

Makes sense, however if that's the case, why is there is pretty much a working build of Sense 2.1 on the Nexus S?
It must be possible, but I reckon it would take a lot of work.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Thread reported. The search button does function quite well. We have had numerous Sense porting threads that you could have found. Good luck!
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