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[COMP]Google N1 vs HTC Desire

So, what do you think about this battle?) Who'll win?
The only things that I don't like in N1 are: display with strange colour rendition, camera which is pink maniak (hey, like pink panther) and silent ring.
Will these thing be removed in HTC Desire?
Or maybe it's better to wait for Samsung Wave (super AMOLED display, but strange OS)

Honestly the Desire imo, fm radio, wm playback and ram/rom are just a few of the things that make it ahead of the N1 for me.

For me, the N1 is clearly the better Phone with the Noice Cancellation and way faster Software/Firmware-Support from Google.
I will never again use a Phone with Sense because of the lazy HTC-Support.
I believe the Community-Support will be much better for the N1, just look whats done so far. It was a nice Idea from Google to gave the N1 to many Android-Software-Developres for free.
And my personal Opinion: I couldnt believe my eyes when i saw a picture from the Desire at MWC. It looks much cheaper in real life than on the leaked Promo-Shots from last year. For me, the N1 looks better.

Currently have a N1, but "broke" it (still working, apart from few sensors),
with the insurance money, I will buy a Desire, since it will be available here.
No contenst unless theyll start also selling N1 straight to Finland.
HW buttons are better, going to miss notification led thou. And will cry if fastboot unlock is disabled.

i prefer Desire,because i don't like N1's track-ball....

Desire ROM on Nexus hardware
Get the best of both the worlds

It's not a case of which one is better, the desire will sell more purely because it's avaliable in store and it's avaliable on all 5 UK Networks.
People can walk into a store not knowing who HTC are and walk out with a Desire, for the Nexus you have to be specifically wanting the Nexus and then go online and pay a lot of money to get one shipped over.

Same screen as nexus?
Wonder if it will have the same screen as nexus ... if so that will suck.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/02/the-nexus-ones-dirty-display-secret/

Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.

mbomberz1 said:
Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.
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What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?

I'm thinking the desire may be better quality build (minus the dust prob and hardware buttons which some may view as a plus or minus, I having lived with capacitive buttons for a year, despise them). Although I would much prefer the option to have either sense or the standard android, and as I'm not familiar with android and their homescreens, is this possible on a stock desire rom?
From what I can tell, sense is mostly just a theme along with widgets, so change the theme and then don't use the widgets right?

It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root

brummiesteven said:
It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root
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Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......

OnlinePredator said:
Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......
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Technically you should just be able to install Launcher2.apk and switch between Sense home and Stock Android Home. Although you'd still have all the Sense apps ie contacts etc but you'd be able to replace these too.

brummiesteven said:
What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?
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Well i have not actually used Sense, just some of the Roms on my Fuze that try to mimic it. It might just be the Windows Mobile underlying that makes me hate the HTC skin, im just annoyed with it all. Using the stock android on my phone, even with the odd glitches here and there due to the early port, leaves me feeling much more free and happier with my phone.

I'm thinking nexus, purely as I don't want to root my device (hehehe root my device.....)
Although I do prefer the optical trackpad and the hardware buttons.......grrr hard decisions...

For me, it will come down to which one I can get AT&T 3G on. The phones are almost identical, and I will surely root/flash it, so the stock ROM won't matter. I do think the Nexus looks better, and will probably get better support from Google.

Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?

htc Desire^^ because I dont like the trackball, and I LOVE the Sense UI

OnlinePredator said:
Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?
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Just looked up the Motoroi for the 1st time... looks kinda pathetic next to the Desire and Nexus..
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2067&id2=2251&id3=2218

Nexus One envy...it's misplaced.

I've just come from Engadget where an announcement of Gingerbread has been leaked. This is forecast for Q4 2010 and the consensus is collective pity for anyone "saddled" with HTC's Sense UI or similar manufacturer skins.
But what is the pity about? Apparently our inability to update to the latest and greatest firmware instantly leave us at a disadvantage. We miss out.
On what?
So far I've seen these features that may be in 2.2:
USB tethering
Wifi hotspot
Enabling of FM radio
JIT processing for more speed
Install apps to SD
Flash 10.1
OK, a couple of those are big news..but we've had no details on Flash and so far from all the demos it seems to run on 2.1 just fine.
Many have already gotten apps to SD by whatever means, and others are yet to face it as an issue.
We could all use the extra speed, but the Desire is hardly slow.
I personally have no need for a portable hotspot as bluetooth tethering works fine for me...it's no big loss.
The rest of the additions HTC has already been including for quite a while now. Where is the equal envy of all the features people with Sense have been enjoying while stock Android users have gone without? It all seems rather childish to cling to numbers when in reality stock 2.1 has less features than 1.6 with Sense on top.
For the majority you're happy with your phone right now. An extra feature added elsewhere should not suddenly make you think your phone is rubbish if it still performs the same functions you were happy with yesterday.

Gingerbread is 2.3.
FroYo is 2.2 and comes with all the stuff you listed. It's due next week.

mcgon1979 said:
Gingerbread is 2.3.
FroYo is 2.2 and comes with all the stuff you listed. It's due next week.
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Yes...you're telling me this because?

Aitese said:
Yes...you're telling me this because?
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I think he is saying it because 2.2 FroYo should be coming to the Desire, which includes all the features you listed above so we don't miss out of anything. Maybe a slight delay while they work Sense UI into 2.2

Yes, I know this...but I was talking about the general sense that the delay is some sort of disadvantage...no one sees Nexus Not having all the features we have as a disadvantage.

Aitese said:
Yes...you're telling me this because?
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sorry. your post was unclear. It seemed you were referring to Gingerbread as 2.2.
so I guess your just saying that your happy enough with 2.1 with sense and not having 2.2 is no big loss? Ok I understand.
I really don't think it will be too long before Desire gets 2.2 anyway. Not like the HERO update. I think this will happen faster due to the promise of 10.1 Flash etc. I agree with you though about your comparison of 1.6 with sense having more than 2.1 vanilla android. I have used the Nexus one and I found it very plain compared to the Desire. I think Android is an excellent OS, but it really is like a scaffolding. The Sense widgets and UI make the experience in my opinion.

Aitese said:
Yes, I know this...but I was talking about the general sense that the delay is some sort of disadvantage...no one sees Nexus Not having all the features we have as a disadvantage.
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Fair point, i would personally hate not having Sense in exchange for being able to upgrade firmware a few days/week early.

Marvinfin said:
Fair point, i would personally hate not having Sense in exchange for being able to upgrade firmware a few days/week early.
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But that is exactly the sort of attitude I'm questioning. You'd rather you didn't have Sense now (so in other words you would rather have not had the features Sense gave you) so that you could have those same features tomorrow? Despite the fact you;d been enjoying said features for weeks before?

Not what i'm saying, i said i would "hate not having sense" instead of being unable to upgrade a few days quicker. I don't mind having to wait, never said i did. But if it came down to never being able to upgrade firmware or keeping Sense, i would almost defiantly prefer a up-to-date and newer firmware which like you said might include feature we already had plus likely to include even more features and additions.

Ah yes...I misread.
Also, I wonder where this belief that the 2.2 update will hit phones next week comes from. The history of Android has shown the SDK is released first for devs and manufactures WELL before the OS ever hits a handset.

Aitese said:
no one sees Nexus Not having all the features we have as a disadvantage.
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That's because the Nexus One can quite easily gain pretty much all of the features we have by flashing a Desire ROM.
There is only one real reason for Nexus One envy, and that is its unlocked bootloader.
Regards,
Dave

I tried using a couple of different launchers recently, and I just couldn't live without the sense widgets. They're cool.
My only issue with sense is the dock at the bottom of the screen. Could be a lot more functional and less ugly... I really like the one in LauncherPro.
That said, if a 2.2 update is not forthcoming in a timely fashion I'll be ditching sense and flashing a custom rom.

foxmeister said:
That's because the Nexus One can quite easily gain pretty much all of the features we have by flashing a Desire ROM.
There is only one real reason for Nexus One envy, and that is its unlocked bootloader.
Regards,
Dave
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And which Nexus One features have we not been able to get by similar means? I have voice search, we've striped out the 3D gallery and had a hacked Navigation app well before Google turned on the UK servers. Hence my belief the moaning about HTC is misplaced.

I just recently returned the Nexus One because -
1 - Didn't like the stock Android UI.
2 - The tactile buttons were not as great as having the hard buttons on the Desire.
3 - Sense UI IMHO is a lot better then having to flash ROMs.
4 - Bluetooth is a must for me.
5 - Immediately had some reboot problems out-of-the-box
If it came down to up-to-date software (FroYo 2.2) over Sense UI...I would chose Sense, but everyone has their preference.

Aitese said:
And which Nexus One features have we not been able to get by similar means?
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As I said in my post, the unlocked bootloader! It is the only one that matters.
Regards,
Dave

For every man that uses the Desire ROM on his Nexus One, the nexus one users give in that the Desire is a superior overall experience (due to sense.)
IMHO.

Just by the way, has HTC ever released an updated official ROM with a new version of Android for any of its handsets?

for me, the nexus one is still superior to the desire.
only the ability to unlock the bootloader on the nexus beats all the advantages of the desire ( if it has any).
Seriously, i believe sense is a more polished UI but some are so useless. Examples are the messages and mail widgets. who actually reads sms and mails by swyping to the screens for the corresponding widgets . or do you actually click on the respective icon on the homescreen.
The extra ram on the desire shouldnt be taken into consideration as the bloated sense accounts for that.
For some of you who say that custom 2.2 will be there for desire before htc. well i kinda agree but i am also sure that most of them would be full of bugs. having the kernel source doesnt necessarily mean that porting the froyo would be a piece of cake!
and that too only if a stable root is achieved. Cause if things stays like how it is, i am sure that most of us will end up with the USB/SD..... brick problem. This is just a question of time.

Just by the way, has HTC ever released an updated official ROM with a new version of Android for any of its handsets?
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Yes.
The G1 and the Magic got upgrades to 1. 6, and the Droid Eris and Sprint Hero upgrades to 2. 1 (with the GSM Hero coming June).
Regards,
Dave

What's the use of this unlocked bootloader for most / average users?
Why is it a big deal for you?
About 2.2, I like the ability to run apps from SD Card ... Flash 10.1 is a nice bonus if the hardware acceleration works.
foxmeister said:
As I said in my post, the unlocked bootloader! It is the only one that matters.
Regards,
Dave
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The Htc Sensation Rom is Simply Beautifull !!!

hi everybody .. just finished to look the video of the Htc Sensation and i hope someone will port this rom on the DHD ..
PS : sorry for my english

The DHD questions section isn't really the best place to post a thread about how beautiful a rom for a completely different device is

Lol. It's possible.. but will take some time for sure.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

https://twitter.com/htc/statuses/58287330590601216
You got to be kidding me..... How can something like 'Sense' be to heavy to run on a 1ghz processor? Most app's don't even require this.

mesut19 said:
https://twitter.com/htc/statuses/58287330590601216
You got to be kidding me..... How can something like 'Sense' be to heavy to run on a 1ghz processor? Most app's don't even require this.
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Sense 3.0 will run on a 1ghz processor, its just marketing.

mlenderink said:
Sense 3.0 will run on a 1ghz processor, its just marketing.
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+1 its all about the business tactics.

we are building the sensation rom for dhd, will take some time though.....lots to do

Yup, you can follow the devs working on it in the dev thread! They have it sort of working now, although the different screen resolution seems to be a problem. However, they say it's working very smooth! No lag at all! So the 1Ghz is not a problem.
Just have to be patient for the resolution to be fixed... which seems to be a not so easy fix...

It runs fine on a DHD, I loaded the sense 3 alpha rom and it ran perfectly fine. It's currently non-functional and the resolution isn't ported yet.
+1 It's just marketing.

Maybe HTC is thinking on the battery life of their old phones.
Our 1GHz CPU has alot more work to do for the Sense 3.0 UI and they can't just shrink the already bad battery life.
That would make sense, as the Flyer is getting the new UI right? And it has the same CPU/GPU but a way bigger battery

now take a look at it again..
what is so special or surprising in this?

Could be to do with the current battery, but if you look at the improvements CoreDroid have made to their ROM, they have managed to get a much faster Sense ROM, but with much better battery, so surely HTC would be able to do this? CoreDroid claim to have better battery by 50%, if HTC managed to do the same, running a ROM made originally for a dual-core processor would result in the same battery life that we have now. Just think about it and you'll understand.
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It's HTC marketing, for people who don't know much about phones to make them upgrade.

True, but most people that get Android tend to know what they are doing, am I not correct? If you have never used Android before, and your phones due an upgrade, surely you would go for an iPhone, due to the ease of use and the general market share the iPhone has. And even if you did go for a top spec Android phone such as the Desire HD, why, just a few months after you have bought it, would you go out and buy a new phone just because if a software update and a few internal changes? As far as I'm concerned, if it is HTC using ways of Marketing, then they will be loosing me as a customer. I've gone from a Desire to a Desire HD on a contract upgrade, I only chose the Desire HD due to the updated sense, and that's gods honest truth, and now, 5 months later, I'm being told that my phones spec doesn't match up to that required of the new update, despite the fact that to-date the DhD is the most powerfules phone on sale in the UK. HTC's gonna loose customers if they keep showing off shiny new things, and not giving it to so-called 'respected customers'.
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jaaystott said:
True, but most people that get Android tend to know what they are doing, am I not correct? If you have never used Android before, and your phones due an upgrade, surely you would go for an iPhone, due to the ease of use and the general market share the iPhone has. And even if you did go for a top spec Android phone such as the Desire HD, why, just a few months after you have bought it, would you go out and buy a new phone just because if a software update and a few internal changes? As far as I'm concerned, if it is HTC using ways of Marketing, then they will be loosing me as a customer. I've gone from a Desire to a Desire HD on a contract upgrade, I only chose the Desire HD due to the updated sense, and that's gods honest truth, and now, 5 months later, I'm being told that my phones spec doesn't match up to that required of the new update, despite the fact that to-date the DhD is the most powerfules phone on sale in the UK. HTC's gonna loose customers if they keep showing off shiny new things, and not giving it to so-called 'respected customers'.
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Yeah I know what you mean, but 5 months is a long time in the technology world. Their marketing will try to convince anybody to upgrade since old stuff is not "good enough".
Desire HD is a SICK phone, I don't really see why to upgrade from it and that's maybe what they are tying to achieve with this marketing?
As you've said, noobs don't usually buy an android and if they do they probably go back to a iphone, so who are they trying to fool?

ErOR22 said:
Yeah I know what you mean, but 5 months is a long time in the technology world. Their marketing will try to convince anybody to upgrade since old stuff is not "good enough".
Desire HD is a SICK phone, I don't really see why to upgrade from it and that's maybe what they are tying to achieve with this marketing?
As you've said, noobs don't usually buy an android and if they do they probably go back to a iphone, so who are they trying to fool?
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Thanks for helping confirm what I put, HTC are fooling nobody because I doubt a lot of people are going to get the Sensation despite the beautiful UI. W have already proven it can work on the Desire HD, and your right it is a sick phone! I reckon HTC will eventually release the full 3.0 update, due to demand, but it will be well after the Sensation release.

gekrem said:
we are building the sensation rom for dhd, will take some time though.....lots to do
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POKER FACE..... really? it´s great!!!!! and thank´s of course gekrem!!!
pd: i think that there´s no problem with the processor we can do OVERCLOCK and set up performance!!!! only a little condition... bad battery drain..

[Q] Android 4.0

Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom

should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
without the source it looks for me that it won't be possible to boot the emulator image on our hero, because it is compiled for armeabi-v7a (snapdragon cpu) only.

thank you for your post
booooo sounds like time for an upgrade

a1Pha said:
should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
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I think source code was already released
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html

That's different. SDK is not kernel source. That's why most honeycomb Ports aren't complete. No source was released.
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Loxxy said:
Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom
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Maybe someone can get it to run. but I don't get my hopes up if I where you. if you look at 2.3 how that runs on the hero comparing to 2.2 and mostly 2.1. And 4.0 even more stuffed then I guess not

touch wood, 2.3.7 is working well for me on my Hero (dont really to upgrade just to get Android 4.0)
But keeping an eye on some HTC Desires on ebay nonetheless

Lirasina said:
Maybe someone can get it to run.
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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.

I hope for a Vanilla 4.0, with no heavy CM mods

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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.
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I thinks so too.
I remember when on this forum we were discussing about porting Froyo 2.2. on the Hero...lol...

Its not long since the GB rom's were considered too fat for the hero. Look at us now..... mines has never been so quick.
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I completely agree with Prof Peach. GB was slow on first releases and now it flies so maybe it's hope for 4.0 too when the sources come out and them maybe it will boot on our Hero after the devs cast their magic.

yea, but don't forget the one and only honeycomb rom for gsm hero which JieeHD (I think) created from the sdk...
YES it was from sdk and so it was a miracle it ran at all, but it was SO slow that you couldn't even try the UI features of the rom. No the hardware didn't work at all, no data, wifi, etc, and that is all because it came from the sdk. That wasn't the purpose of the sdk build. It was just to play with the honeycomb UI, but even then the UI should have run alright if it was ever going to run on the hero.
However that rom (which I still have kicking around somewhere) showed me just how honeycomb was clearly made to run on much more powerful hardware than even gingerbread requires.
So I personally will be very surprised if it works well enough for daily use.
But then I'm running a gingerbread rom that is fast enough for daily use and perfectly stable... and I bet against that every happening back in teh day LoL.
I've been wrong before, and I hope you guys can prove me wrong again. I'm always happy to be wrong when I'm being pessimistic!

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To upgrade or not to upgrade?​ This is the big question for the android community!!!!
It will run on the hero, but since phones are getting bigger, i think it's gonna be kind of weird to run 4.0... We will have to see it ported firts
As far from what i see and what the google guys reported...every phone that can run GB can run ICS... so that means that there can't be a big problem to run the os, and since the nexus S will receive the update, that means that there is a way to disable the on screen buttons...
For the moment we stick with what we have !!! And we have to THANKS the devs that keep this phone alive. As for the part with upgrading to a new phone, i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core) or buy phones like nexus S that now are on slim prices
PS: since i got my tablet, i'm not so much into getting a new phone
Stefan

yea, tablets are awesome. Same here - I've used many android tablets and my employer supplies apple devices for my dev work at one company.
Tablets are awesome if you truly embrace them and buy whatever options you need to use them as virtual laptops effectively.

Agree with dkelley...if you have places where you can use them, it's better to have one...i use mine all the time, from movies and finishing with reading stuff.
I have to admin i was thinking on to buy a desire Hd / Nexus S...but not so shure
Stefan

yeah i love my Hero to bits, cost me £50 with Android 1.6 pre installed on it from some guy at work lol.
Whilst i can appreciate its an old handset etc etc, its running gingerbread like a dream, so would love to see the 'consolidated' release of 4.0 on there, i feel google will have dropped a legacy beat if only snapdragon cpus are supported.
admins feel free to move this to the Q&A sub-forum if required

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This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...

yukinok25 said:
This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...
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For me the Hero is a phone. and nothing more. It is a little smarter phone then my moms. She can text and call. I can do that and I can also send mail check agenda and navigate some. That is what I use my phone for. If I need more then I will use my laptop anyway. So the Hero with some easy rom is fine for me.
Android 4.0 will bring problems and stuff that I will never use anyway. If you look at most devs on the Hero forum. They are good porters and breakers of things. I am the last one, a breaker XD There are still a half hand full of devs for the Hero.
I think the CDMA will have 4.0 sooner then the Hero. But that is just my oppinion. If they ever get it...

And is there an upgrade for sgs2?
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Will we ever get Sense 3.0?

Well the HTC Incredible S seems like they are getting Sense 3.0 according to this.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/htc-incredible-s-to-get-official-sense-3-0-update.html
Does that mean the HTC Incredible 2 will also be getting it?

I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases

No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.

The Desire S is older than the 3Dvo and the Sensation and it got Sense 3.0. Also, if you ask on HTC's facebook wall something along the lines of "Is the Incredible 2 getting Sense 3.0", the response is something like "We are working to bring at least parts of the new version of Sense to older devices."

They're probably making an official skyraider like update.
Sent from my Droid Incredible 2 HD courtesy of Newt

Berzerker7 said:
No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.
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really? cuz the desire s, desire hd, and inspire 4g all phones *older* than the inc2 and running very similar if not more outdated hardware and wvga res all have it officially by ota with the last 2 months...where do you think we've been getting the sense 3 roms to port from?
now official sense 3.5 will never happen id imagine for this phone...but if the inc s gets it via ota, we will as well (probably not til 2012 though when we ll be complaining about no ics yet)

PacerguyDon said:
I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases
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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.

frankspin said:
If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.
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htc is generally pretty good about updates (i really didnt think the og inc would get gb officially which it did...boads well for eventual ics sense on this phone)
with the exception of the tbolt gingerbread disaster of course
my only gripe would be that they tend treat similar devices a tad differently...we were getting a sense 2.1 ota to 2.3.4 while the desire hd and desire s had already gotten a 2.3.5 sense 3.0 ota
i guess we could put the blame on verizon for that (hey why not) but idk