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Anyone interested in helping port Sense to the MI-One?

Howdy All!
You probably don't know, but I am (or was until recently) the dev over at MIUI_Au. About a month ago, MIUI shipped out engineering samples of their MI-One device. All the 'third party' translation effort leaders (except, sadly, our own XJ), including me, received a unit (as well as another 500 lucky Chinese users who had to 'win' one).
So I am in possession of an MI-One, which comes with MIUI as standard (obviously).
The world of Android (and indeed XDA as a whole) wouldn't be what it is unless people had ambition.
MIUI will release the M1 eventually, and it will be priced at around half that of the Evo3D ($350 USD).
What follows seems only logical, then.
I know nothing about porting, by the way. So...the main question: Is anyone game enough to help (or rather me help anyone) with getting a head start on a port?
Cheers,
Josh.

Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.

bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.

bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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Agree, even if porting is possible drivers are a great issue. Maybe its an option to port just the rosie.apk and the framework? (just an idea, my knowledge on this subject is very limit too...)

rafaelegomezb said:
It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.
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Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.

bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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One of the major differences in this situation is that the MI-One is built with same SOC as the Evo3D/Sensation - the MSM8660. All bluetooth, wifi, gps, GPU-related, CPU-related and mmc and storage related drivers would likely be the same (or at least very similar).
It isn't like porting it to a device which has a completely different set of components.
Josh.

rootSU said:
Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.
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So am i. After a while sense starts to show its flaws. Sense is a good experience, but stock is the pure android experience ! And with launcher pro and sense clock (the sense clock is the best thing i've seen!) i've built a better experience than sense itself. This days there're widgets and launcher skins to everything. You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen

Yekxmerr said:
You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen
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Well, not really. Acctually, I really don't like some of the new widgets. The clock, for example - I much prefer the old one which flipped faster.
But also, Sense ROMs are about proper facebook contact synching, synching with outlook and tethering that works well. All of this works out of the box, and all of it is done in style.
Anyway, it is a little off topic.
Kindly respond to the original question if you are interested, developers.

Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...

Mi-One would be awesome with a sense rom imo.

coolexe said:
Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...
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Fair Dibs.
You are probably right - I only posted in the Desire section out of habit. I just updated the index and went from their. Well, that, and I know that there are some very skilled developers here.
You did raise an interesting point though: While the hardware is quite similar, the partition scheme is much more complicated (with two system partitions).
Josh

2? Why?
10char

Anyway, it can be done. But without owning the device, it's impossible to test out ideas. Partition layouts are the simple part. Nothing some smart symlinking can't correct.
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Supernova Extreme Rom - 450 apps and counting. .

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MI-ONE thread
Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..

heidewitzgar said:
Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..
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Am from UK were would be best to buy one of these phones from?

Kernel 3.0?

Hi there,
I've just join this zone for haft a month and wanna to do something with this `Dev Dream Phone`. (I'm talking about G2 & Desire Z in this thread)
I see there are many ICS ROMs ported from CM9, MIUI v4 but not see any kernel 3.0 for it.
I think this thread could help to discuss and help to merge current branch of kernel 2.6.35 to 3.0 then we will have more features from v3, compatible with ICS, less problem and good performance since inherited many improvement from v3.
So, for get started with, I will need someone who know exactly current state of development / port for this device. It will be more easy after we have a clearly view.
Some questions:
- Which is best kernel implemented / tweaked / modded known work for ICS or GB on this device ?
- Where are there repositories?
- Any effort to port kernel 3.0 to make it work on this device?
- Anyone success to boot a ROM with kernel 3.0?
- Any problem we are facing?
Update 1:
- Sensation HTC Kernel HTC 3.0.16: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448799
Thank you for reading and wishing we will have success with this update.
Regard & Cheer from Vietnam
Voice of Uoc Nguyen

We need to wait for a leaked version of a 3.0 kernel for our chipset, don't we ? Maybe the leak of the Sensation XL ROM that was posted about recently might help (Sensation XL has same chipset as DHD, i.e. same as us).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Yeah, I think so, it is easier for us while Sensation has same chipset as our devices.

fyi:
https://github.com/nexx/htc-kernel-msm7x30-3.0
good luck

quote from (today) rmk's twitter
@rmk40
Looks like the release ICS base from HTC is out for the Sensation. Will be working on updating Virtuous Sensation this weekend.
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The Sensation is not msm7x30 and will not help in anyway.

Just check Sensation and see it is using difference chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8260, but at least it is HTC & Qualcomm so, hope it will be not very difficult!

Sensation is a different chipset, but Sensation XL is the same as ours
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

What's wrong?
I browse specs on pdadb.net and see that all Sensation phones are using MSM 82xx while our is MSM 72xx
FYI, http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3094&c=htc_sensation_xl_x315__bass_htc_runnymede

tiger2wander said:
What's wrong?
I browse specs on pdadb.net and see that all Sensation phones are using MSM 82xx while our is MSM 72xx
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Not all MSM82xx are the same as ours. Sensation (Pyramid) uses MSM8260, which is a different chipset (e.g. Adreno 220 GPU vs our Adreno 205). Sensation XE uses that too. Sensation XL uses MSM8255 and that's the same as Desire HD and Desire S, which is also the same chipset (just different clock speed) as our MSM7230.
So ICS for Sensation XL will help us a lot (same chipset). ICS for Sensation or Sensation XE doesn't really help us at all.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Forget about getting kernel source from HTC. It isn't going to happen. This work has to be done the HARD WAY.

dhkr234 said:
Forget about getting kernel source from HTC. It isn't going to happen. This work has to be done the HARD WAY.
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Nope, I have to disappoint you but once htc releases the kernel for the Sensation XL, Desire S or Desire HD, we will be able to reuse most of that for our devices. Also the leak of the XL will be a great base to start building a fully functioning ics rom (with proper gpu and camera drivers). So chin up and be positive
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

???
HTC has already released kernel source for previous releases, so they'll do the same for ICS. Maybe you were referring to the source for proprietary drivers which they won't release, but that's fine because we don't need that anyway, we can just use the compiled libraries etc (e.g. we don't have HTC source code for some of the drivers for Gingerbread for our phone, but we still have lots of great GB ROMs).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

HTC have GB upgrade via OTA then we have a lots of GB ROMs is of course, ICS is a bit harder but we have many ROMs here anyway
And this device is absolutely open everything then it is not very hard to get something work except when we reach limit of technical like memory size, Internal Storage or CPU power...
So, be positive

[Q] One X and CM9...

I'm so, SO interested it swap my SGS2 with a One X. It looks so gorgeous.
My only concern is about the Tegra thing.
I guess how much control / development the amazing CM team will be able to obtain over the phone.
I briefly looked around and only found a port of CM9 for the OneX, while still no official.
If I'm not wrong, US saw the OneX only very recently, so perhaps it's simply too early for that.
What do you guys think about it ?
You feel like Tegra (which is nVidia, one of the most reluctanct player in the market to open up things) could be a major issue for custom developers ? Thinking of CM9 and future CM10...
Best regards

chareos12 said:
I'm so, SO interested it swap my SGS2 with a One X. It looks so gorgeous.
My only concern is about the Tegra thing.
I guess how much control / development the amazing CM team will be able to obtain over the phone.
I briefly looked around and only found a port of CM9 for the OneX, while still no official.
If I'm not wrong, US saw the OneX only very recently, so perhaps it's simply too early for that.
What do you guys think about it ?
You feel like Tegra (which is nVidia, one of the most reluctanct player in the market to open up things) could be a major issue for custom developers ? Thinking of CM9 and future CM10...
Best regards
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I dont think its a big issue, considering the transformer prime is running CM as well.
Plus, the current inofficial CM9 build has full hardware rendering enabled already. There still some small issues with RIL which causes volume issues with the earpiece and non-functional WiFi Hotspot, but everything else works just fine so far.

Thank you for these consolidated infos !
Those made me some more confident

I don't know why it doesn't have cm9 just yet, I think HTC as already outed the sources

How much of the Desire HD is the same to the Xperia 2011 line?

After doing some research I found this phone (desire hd) has many similarities to the sony xperia 2011 line (me personally having an Xperia Ray). So I was wondering which hardware are actually the same like the cpu and the gpu, they both have have an 8.1 mp camera but are they both developed by sony? , I've been looking through this development forum, and have found some interesting roms I would like to port over, as the ray development is quite dry, and if the camera is indeed the same, then I wouldn't have to port over that driver, (which in jellybean roms would mean that the camera would actually work in the ray because jellybean roms for xperia don't), if their are anymore similarities then cross development between xperia 2011 line and the desire hd wouldn't be too hard. I will make a custom rom at some point in the future, but don't have enough knowledge yet for kernel or driver development, or how the android system works yet, but once that time comes, I will seriously consider porting it for this phone!

I think that you've got a long way to go before you just jump in to porting stuff over. As far as the specs go, you can check the Wiki here for some of that, you can also use google for many of the questions you have asked.

I've tried researching, but I haven't found enough detail yet (much like the wiki on here). I have successfully ported a desire s rom, but not a desire hd one, as they have some screen issues, which is too technical for me to get in to at the present time. But camera drivers is one of the key things I wanted to find out about, and there is just nothing I can find out about it. I know the the iPhone 4S camera is exactly the same but not sure about the desire hd.

There are two types of camera for dhd, some are produced by Samsung and some by OmniVision.
So it definitely hasn't the same camera of Ray.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

only processor is the same.
chipset is different. radio is different.
camera is different. source is closed.
-> chance of a working port 0%

Upgrade to Nougat

Hi
I have an old Acer Iconia A100 Tablet, running
Android 4.03
Kernel 2.6.39.4+
Can this tab be updated?
Has anyone tried, was there success?
Any thoughts on how it can, or is it even possible

No one has developed a ROM for the a100 since jellybean. Its close relative A500 hasn't had a Rom developed since Lollypop. You have to develop it yourself or find someone to do so. Lineage aka Cyanogenmod won't support the tegra 2. So if anyone developes one it has to be on a Tegra 2 friendly Rom like OmniRom.
Having said that, Rooting accomplishes a lot, in terms of customization, so unless someone develops a New ROM, you can root it.

ok, thx.
I'll check out omnirom, but it looks like it's time for a new tablet.
it's already rooted

I understand that android has dropped continuing support for tegra processors which is what has left the iconia out in the cold for updates beyond jb. However dev timduru has developed a nougat-based ROM for the Asus tf700t which is another tegra based tablet. Anyone watching this thread capable of seeing if it can be modified for the iconia? It's kisskat's nougatella.