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[Q] Recover rom from non-root Desire

Title says it all.
I am new to the android world and the information you get from a google search is convoluted at best.
I have a desire that I rooted using UnRevoked3. I was however misled by all the research I did that I could make a backup of my system and data before the generic rom was flashed. I now have a rooted phone without any backup to revert back to.
My phone is Ntelos CDMA HTC Desire android 2.1
I do however have access to a non-rooted (same phone and network) phone if it is at all possible to recover the recovery and system partitions without rooting the phone my cousin will let me do so.
Can this be done? if so a detailed explanation of how to do it would be helpful.

waynestir said:
Title says it all.
I am new to the android world and the information you get from a google search is convoluted at best.
I have a desire that I rooted using UnRevoked3. I was however misled by all the research I did that I could make a backup of my system and data before the generic rom was flashed. I now have a rooted phone without any backup to revert back to.
My phone is Ntelos CDMA HTC Desire android 2.1
I do however have access to a non-rooted (same phone and network) phone if it is at all possible to recover the recovery and system partitions without rooting the phone my cousin will let me do so.
Can this be done? if so a detailed explanation of how to do it would be helpful.
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If I understand correctly you want to "unroot" you phone. This is done by installing htc Sync and running the appropriate RUU from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667.
Thre is no reason, besides the fact that you want to return your phone for warranty purposes and/or that you want to have stock system, for you to revert to stock.
Copying and pasting backups seems like a very bad idea since there might be subtle differences between phones which thus might generate more problems than it solves.
I'm not saying that it's not possible, it's not recommended. There are a bunch of other safer alternatives.

Yes I want to revert to stock rom which I no longer have. I just wanted to experiment a little. I never would have done in the first place had I known there would be no going back.
There are no stock roms availibe for my phone. I need a RUU from Ntelos not verison or USCC.

No need to, you can't backup a unrooted rom. Since you are already rooted just make a nandroid of that rom to revert to. Only when things go really wrong you need to use the ruu.
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TheGhost1233 said:
No need to, you can't backup a unrooted rom. Since you are already rooted just make a nandroid of that rom to revert to. Only when things go really wrong you need to use the ruu.
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No its just that nobody has sorted out how. I ran the US Cellular update on my phone and got a stock USSC non-root phone working on Ntelos network. I then ran root again to get my data back of course.
Their app runs on windows pc and doesn't require special access such as root. All the capability is there I'm sure. just under lock and key.

waynestir said:
No its just that nobody has sorted out how. I ran the US Cellular update on my phone and got a stock USSC non-root phone working on Ntelos network. I then ran root again to get my data back of course.
Their app runs on windows pc and doesn't require special access such as root. All the capability is there I'm sure. just under lock and key.
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What do you mean by getting your data back ? All your data is lost (contacts, apps, messages, etc) when you flash a new ROM. The only things that stay intact are those which you have saved on your SD.

There are plenty of ways to backup stuff from unrooted devices. However non of them provide any useful safety backup regarding rooting or flashing.
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paul.c said:
What do you mean by getting your data back ? All your data is lost (contacts, apps, messages, etc) when you flash a new ROM. The only things that stay intact are those which you have saved on your SD.
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from a backup that I had made prior to flash.

TheGhost1233 said:
There are plenty of ways to backup stuff from unrooted devices. However non of them provide any useful safety backup regarding rooting or flashing.
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If there are ways then that is what I am looking for. I have no memory of Unix/Linux command line. I'm sure I have a text laying around somewhere and could refresh my memory. However I elect to ask those in the know to guide me.
I simply want to get a stock system rom from the same make and model phone on the same network without voiding the warranty on that phone. My service provider had very little bloat ware and didn't remove apps that I found missing in the verizon/US Cell stock roms. My phone being root or not is not the question. For that I don't care accept if I ever need warranty work done. And that is just my luck sometimes so.. better safe than sorry.

Clockwork Recovery

I have a question on restoring a stock rom with clockwork...
Im going to do a backup of my current stock rom (in case i want to go back from CM7 to what i have now, which is stock...havent even rooted yet)
My problem is that, while searching the forum, i came across this post, which scared me a bit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
So, my question is, if i do a backup of my current situation, and then when i go back i just restore the said backup, do i have any chances of having the problem mentioned in the thread i posted above??
Thanks all in advance!

coldsun15 said:
I have a question on restoring a stock rom with clockwork...
Im going to do a backup of my current stock rom (in case i want to go back from CM7 to what i have now, which is stock...havent even rooted yet)
My problem is that, while searching the forum, i came across this post, which scared me a bit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
So, my question is, if i do a backup of my current situation, and then when i go back i just restore the said backup, do i have any chances of having the problem mentioned in the thread i posted above??
Thanks all in advance!
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What you're talking about is making and/or restoring a nandroid backup of your current system, what that thread is talking about is something entirely different. There's no problem restoring your stock nandroid, I've had to in the past when I've needed to pull some apps out of it.
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OriginalGabriel said:
What you're talking about is making and/or restoring a nandroid backup of your current system, what that thread is talking about is something entirely different. There's no problem restoring your stock nandroid, I've had to in the past when I've needed to pull some apps out of it.
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thanks!!!
one more question though, just to have things clear... if i were to go back to the way i am now, and unroot and everything... i would have no problem in restoring the backup and then just unrooting?? simple as that?
thanks!

It would be slightly different. Firstly I can't imagine you needing to go back to stock unless for warranty cause there are stock rooted Roms available, but there are also instructions for unrooting around here somewhere

noneabove said:
It would be slightly different. Firstly I can't imagine you needing to go back to stock unless for warranty cause there are stock rooted Roms available, but there are also instructions for unrooting around here somewhere
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hey, first things first, thanks for the answer
secondly, i do understand the procedure to be different, what i meant was, if i restore my own nandroid stock backup (the one i created myslef), once restored, i'll still be rooted, right? (with s-off and stuff)
thanks

Well considering you could only actually make the Nandroid backup with a rooted rom, yes it still will be when restored it took me awhile to get used to this too, when you do a restore, save for your SD, your phone will LITERALLY be EXACTLY the same as when you did the backup (also save for any corruption that could occur, but if it's an important backup then put it on your computer )

noneabove said:
Well considering you could only actually make the Nandroid backup with a rooted rom, yes it still will be when restored it took me awhile to get used to this too, when you do a restore, save for your SD, your phone will LITERALLY be EXACTLY the same as when you did the backup (also save for any corruption that could occur, but if it's an important backup then put it on your computer )
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Thanks a lot!! really cleared stuff up!!

noneabove said:
Well considering you could only actually make the Nandroid backup with a rooted rom, yes it still will be when restored it took me awhile to get used to this too, when you do a restore, save for your SD, your phone will LITERALLY be EXACTLY the same as when you did the backup (also save for any corruption that could occur, but if it's an important backup then put it on your computer )
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Sorry, i just have another question (total noob here, hehehe), is root the same as getting s-off? or are they completely different things?
Cause, if i just root (keeping s-on (if its even possible)) and do a nandroid backup, and then i do the s-off... when i restore, id have root, but s-on, right?? and wouldnt that be just the same problem as the one stated in the thread i posted in the first post??
sorry again, i know im probably making a big mess out of something relatively simple...
thanks in advance

No no, it's natural to be worried the problem that what you posted talks about its trying to install the official OTA rom while s-off which you won't be doing anyways and while s-off isn't the same as rooting I believe you need s-off to root.. I'll do a bit of research in the morning but in the mean time take a look an see what you can learn on your own

Great, thanks!!! if u find out anything else, please dont doubt in sharing!! everything is welcome!!

hi
no method for inistall clock work mod wihtout s off phone
my phone are dezair z .htc lookid all phone boot loodor and any apps for rooting not work on the htc phon.
i m very like inistall custom rom but can not let me my phone .
i am iranini citizen one body went help me i very tankou of this person
exuse me i not very best speak or whrit engilsh language . i m sorry of all frend this site active.

[Q] Htc Dezire with no service after rom

So i own a dezire z from vodafone romania mine was factory unlocked so i used the gfree metod for rooting first i downgraded cuz it was 2.3.3 and i was using androdamus build for like a month afetr that i used miui still no problem , and then i tryed lightsense rom and my phone didnt work anymore i mean it start it works bluetooth and wifi but my phone as 3g and signal and carrier is not its just searching and nothing if i search after it manualy it finds the network but it wont connect.
I had a backup of androdamus and i restored it still no luck what can i do to make it work again i really need it anything i just want it to be a working phon e again .
Oh and something that really pisses my of is that all roms now go as ITALIAN the default language and no service whatsoever so please HELP ME

Try updating radio, try changing/adding apn
Very strange that changing roms would effect your phone in these ways but if switching back to roms that worked still won't this would be my best bet. Also if you did a nandroid backupl restore that and see what happens
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thankyou for the fast response im sure that its not from the apn since i manualy added it as my carrier advised me i tryed the same setting on my old HTC tytn 2 and they worked so its the phone that shoud be blamed
aa can u please recommnd me a good radio ....i really dont know from where to download it and whichi one is the good one shoud i search after the one that im currently using ?

Did you try a nandroid yet?
As for the radio there is a thread in the developers section with all the options, just search for it
I can't recomend one for they vary on what works. What is best where you live will be diffrent than for me. Trial and error
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no i didnt tryed that , what do you mean by nandroid backup ?

If you have a custom recovery, clockwork or 4ext, there will be an option for a nandroid backup (some custom recoveries do bart backups) it is highly recomended to do a nandroid before flashing anything to your phone in case something goes wrong. Think of it as a restore point. If you flash a rom or change some setting and you cant/don't want to fix it, you just restore with nandoid backup and all is well
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I still cant use my sim i did full wipe after i rooted it again and im back to androdamus and still i cant make it work what can ido someone please help me

[Q] htc evo 4g to boost reflashed plz help thnx

Hey everyone i need your help. so long story short i got a flashed htc evo 4g to boost already flashed its rooted but they didnt give me the doner phone so 3g doesnt work because the ha/aaa passwords dont work and i cant get them
i have recently gottena incogneto and i want to reflash it my self and i need help doing it. do i need to factory reset it or even reroot it? iam kinda lost please help i always give thanks

Check out the thread HERE.

prboy1969 said:
Check out the thread HERE.
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that is not my question has nothing to do with my question read it again

Hmmm.... well since you have gotten 88 views, and I'm the only one who bothered to answer. I would think that a bit less attitude is in order. The reason I pointed you towards that thread is because it is for Boost Mobile. Which if I am to understand your OP correctly, what you want to reflash your EVO to again. If you look in the thread someone may have had your issue previously, and posted up.

I will help you, just shoot me a pm. It's pretty simple after you do it a time or 2.
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The thread prboy1969 pointed you too has all the tools to get it done. I've used the same thread myself. To answer your direct question, yes you should flash a stock rooted rom to your evo using all the proper wiping procedures like normal..then begin.

what rom do i need to flash or just factory wipe? and if i use titanium back up will it save my contacts?

lowgs said:
what rom do i need to flash or just factory wipe? and if i use titanium back up will it save my contacts?
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thanks to captin throwback..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671395 ..contacts should be saved automatically via google..to my knowledge ti backup doesn't save them. To be safe just go into contacts/menu/import-export/export and save em to your sd. Then transfer that to somewhere else for safe keeping.

nrvlljr said:
thanks to captin throwback..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671395 ..contacts should be saved automatically via google..to my knowledge ti backup doesn't save them. To be safe just go into contacts/menu/import-export/export and save em to your sd. Then transfer that to somewhere else for safe keeping.
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thanks bud

Unlock HTC One (M8) bootloader without data loss

I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader of my HTC One M8 without losing data. I've read HTCDev's route but that wipes the phone. I've gotten upto a point. I just need to unlock it. I've done all the identifier token stuff so I just need to unlock. If anyone has a method (free method) to unlock the bootloader without data loss, please tell me.

Can't be done.

Backup your data, then restore it after the bootloader unlock.
There are a variety of methods to backup data (Gmail to backup contacts, Helium app, copy to computer or SD, lots more), so there really is no excuse to be running around without your personal data backed up (if that is the case).
Data loss can happen anytime (not just unlocking the bootloader). And waiting for a disaster then asking "how do I recover my data" is not the right way to go about things.

Um, if you are willing to shell out $25 and go S-off, you can. In fact, Sunshine leaves your bootloader unlocked as part of the process.
Of course, this isn't free (you have to use Sunshine), and for some variants of the phone King Root is required (and a pain the backside) However, there is a way to do what you are asking.
However, I can't disagree with the idea that you should be making backups anyway, and since you already have a token, it's not like you are saving much at this point by not just unlocking the traditional way and restoring your backups.

redpoint73 said:
Backup your data, then restore it after the bootloader unlock.
There are a variety of methods to backup data (Gmail to backup contacts, Helium app, copy to computer or SD, lots more), so there really is no excuse to be running around without your personal data backed up (if that is the case).
Data loss can happen anytime (not just unlocking the bootloader). And waiting for a disaster then asking "how do I recover my data" is not the right way to go about things.
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I backed up my stuff and unlocked without problem. Problem now is HTC Sync doesn't want to talk to my phone. It gives me a popup saying "This device needs a newer verison of HTC Sync". Im on the latest version but nothing works. I also made an ADB Backup and am slowly resolving the apps it gets stuck on like Fitbit and "com.google.quicksearchbox"

Some posts on this page may help you:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-htc-one/366764-trouble-syncing-phone-htc-sync-manager.html
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c5satellite2 said:
Some posts on this page may help you:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-htc-one/366764-trouble-syncing-phone-htc-sync-manager.html
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Thanks for the help but after I posted this I unlocked, installed TWRP and installed CM12.1.

redpoint73 said:
Backup your data, then restore it after the bootloader unlock.
There are a variety of methods to backup data (Gmail to backup contacts, Helium app, copy to computer or SD, lots more), so there really is no excuse to be running around without your personal data backed up (if that is the case).
Data loss can happen anytime (not just unlocking the bootloader). And waiting for a disaster then asking "how do I recover my data" is not the right way to go about things.
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About what you said, I made a backup and then had to restore my HTC M8 running Android 5. Of course I had recover my apps but not my pictures, they are in Google Photos now but not on my phone.

chapita said:
About what you said, I made a backup and then had to restore my HTC M8 running Android 5. Of course I had recover my apps but not my pictures, they are in Google Photos now but not on my phone.
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Not sure of the point of this post. Is there a question here? Or just sharing your personal experience?

redpoint73 said:
Not sure of the point of this post. Is there a question here? Or just sharing your personal experience?
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The point is that despite making a backup using the Google account I wasn't able to recover my pictures from the memory card. Clearly I misunderstood the "backup concept" here.
Saying that you have two choices here: one of them is to tell me that there is a way (if there is) to recover my pictures from the phone which will become my post a question and myself a happy man. The other one is to leave the post as it is. In that case, it will be just a personal experience.

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The point is that despite making a backup using the Google account I wasn't able to recover my pictures from the memory card. Clearly I misunderstood the "backup concept" here.
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Yes, you misunderstood. Backing up using Google isn't going to save or allow you to recovery anything from the "memory card".
chapita said:
tell me that there is a way (if there is) to recover my pictures from the phone which will become my post a question and myself a happy man.
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What do you mean by "memory card"? Do you mean internal memory, or the removable SD?