Hboot and partial root. - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i rooted my phone last year. and i believe i only have a partial root because i do not have an sdk directory.
also i have hboot 0.97, do i need to update my hboot to the current version?
if so how should i go about doing it
( i am runing cyanogenmod 7)
i have s-off.

There is no sdk directory for the evo as long as you are s-off and recovery have superuser and busybox you are fully rooted s-off is nand unlocked which isn't rooting the phone but root privileges for the bootloader allowing you to flash unofficial PC36IMG.zips in the bootloader recovery is for flashing rom, mod, script, and apk zips. Superuser and busybox give your actual phone partition root privilege to use root only apps so s-off, recovery, superuser and busybox = full root superuser and busybox but no s-off or recovery is temp root, and s-off only is partial root
Edit: cm7 is prerooted so as long ad u have a recovery you are fully rooted if you don't have a recovery you flash that via a pc36img.zip in hboot I recommend flashing the amon RA style supersonic recovery v3.11 as it uses the capacitive buttons for navigation allows u to restore cwm recovery backups and amon RA back ups and is as stable as amon RA, the navigation by capacitives is home=up, menu=down, back=back and searchkey= select
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no_rex4u said:
i rooted my phone last year. and i believe i only have a partial root because i do not have an sdk directory.
also i have hboot 0.97, do i need to update my hboot to the current version?
if so how should i go about doing it
( i am runing cyanogenmod 7)
i have s-off.
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No need to update hboot. Look at post above for more info.

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[q] obtaining newest ota 3.70 with root help & guidance needed

I am rooted with unrevoked with with sprint stock rom on 3.29.651.5 pri version 1.77 003
I tried to unroot using unrevoked forever and flashing the pc36image file therefore I could recieve the ota and reroot: Well it didnt work because I am still rooted and got the error code.I want to flash the stock sprint rom with root and the newest ota,which I'm pretty sure I should go with Sprint Lovers?Problem thought is while messing with the unrevoked forever it put the S-on back on but obviously I am still rooted,so how should I go about this basically obtaining the rom with the ota with super user powers and everything.Is it still possible for me to just flash the rom to my phone as I have a 6 month old who is a major distraction if I have do it manually meaning typing in codes thru cmd prompt . Easiest way is needed { thanks
Go back and mess with unrevoked till you get S-Off again.
There are many roms based off the 3.7 ota.
Just load one into your phone.
If you are using RA1.8 recovery then move the zip to the root of the sdcard.
Use titanium to back up your aps.
Do a nandroid backup.
Follow the flashing directions on the thread with your rom on it.
whats the best rom you would suggest I like the whole htc sense and also I have clockwork mod recovery on now and that what comes with unrevoked,do I have to flash amon recovery perform nandroid backup then I can flash rom and also does amon ra recovery backup wimax keys
I had a much earlier clockwork thoroughly bork my system.
Now I do things manually.
I would install better terminal emulator from market, in order to flash ra1.8 recovery - not 2.1 at this time.
Follow the directions for ra1.8 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
In terminal emulator:
su(press enter)
flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-evo-v1.8.0.img(press enter)
reboot recovery(press enter)
-I use fresh's 3.501 rom. It's very stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743079
Read before you act.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=652
Use the any HBOOT version number as long as it isn't 2.10 or 3.70.651.1
For future reference, once you are rooted just flash the latest ROM to update your version. You do not need to unroot and reroot to use a later version.

Unrevoked forever and 2.10 bootloader

If I am s off and my bootloader is the 2.10 version is there any way to get s on or to flash a new recovery or am I just screwed? Any help appreciated
What are you trying to do exactly? Why do you think you're screwed?
We're comin from a pure power source.
Somehow boot into recovery to turn s on I have no recovery becauseo accidentally did an OTA and upgraded the bootloader to 2.10 after I was already revoked forever
If you are S-Off, you're still Rooted (Well not really rooted, I think, but you can flash recovery and ROMS that have root)
And the 2.10 version is the Hboot you want, too.
The new locked one is 2.16.xx
Seems like you may be confused.
Yes but after the updated bootloader when I boot into recovery all have is a red arrow
Also superuser say I dont have root
As long as you're S-Off, you can flash recovery by putting the Amon Ra (Recommended) PC36IMG.zip on the root of your SD Card, boot up by holding power and volume down at the same time, then when it boots into Hboot, it does it's scan, finds PC36IMG.zip and asks if you want to update. Hit yes, then let it flash, then it will reboot to Hboot again.
It'll scan and find the image again and ask if you want to update again, and this time, hit no, then select recovery and you should be good to go.
Here's the link to Amon Ra: Amon Ra
Thanks I didnt know if that would work since superuser was saying I didn't have root
Realistically, you don't. S-Off isn't root. S-Off means the security is off so you can flash custom images onto your phone, starting with Recovery. Recovery gives you the ability to flash .zip files like ROMS, Mods, Themes, etc. Root is, if I have this correctly, in the ROM you flash.
I know on the Moment, it was in the kernel.
If you took the OTA, you're not rooted despite being nand unlocked (s-off). Flash the recovery of your choice, make a nandroid backup, wipe cache & dalvik cache, then flash the rooted version. However, you said you're on the older hboot, so maybe you didn't take the OTA?
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
The latest ota should have put you to hboot 2.16. Regardless, it doesn't turn you s on. You are still s off which means you are able to flash alternative recovery as previously mentioned. I was able to downgrade from 2.16 back to 2.10 after taking the ota. I was in the process of unrooting to get phone repaired. But I was only able to downgrade due to my security being set to s off. If I had run unrevoked s on tool prior to ota, then I would not have been able to downgrade and would have lost root permanently until a new exploit gets discovered. That is what I ultimately did. I am s on with latest hboot. Unrooted is not really good. Hehe.
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S-Off but on 6.16hboot w/o root access?

okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
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Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!
Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?
grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you
actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.
i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.
popasmurfn23 said:
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.
When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !
hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone

[Q] Installing Custom Recovery after OTA update

I unrooted my evo 4g a week ago because I was going to turn it in to the Sprint store but I turned out keeping my phone. Now I'm trying to root it again and install custom recovery.
I am running the Sprint Stock ROM 2.3.5 but I still have S-OFF when I load into bootloader. I also have HBOOT version 6.16.002
Is there any way I can install a recovery program such as clockwork, etc. with this S off permission?
thanks
Chingon17 said:
I unrooted my evo 4g a week ago because I was going to turn it in to the Sprint store but I turned out keeping my phone. Now I'm trying to root it again and install custom recovery.
I am running the Sprint Stock ROM 2.3.5 but I still have S-OFF when I load into bootloader. I also have HBOOT version 6.16.002
Is there any way I can install a recovery program such as clockwork, etc. with this S off permission?
thanks
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Yes as long as you have S-Off you are rooted,you will be able to install a new recovery.
You're S-OFF (rooted), so you should simply be able to download ROM Manager and Flash CWM. Have fun
yankeeboy254 said:
You're S-OFF (rooted), so you should simply be able to download ROM Manager and Flash CWM. Have fun
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Don't use rom manager,theres too many things that could go wrong,i've had restore problems with rom manager,its better to install a recovery manually.
I don't have superuser anymore though since I'm on the stock rom so I can't use Rom manager to flash the recovery.
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Chingon17 said:
I don't have superuser anymore though since I'm on the stock rom so I can't use Rom manager to flash the recovery.
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Find the recovery of your choosing in zip form, name it PC36IMG, put it on the root of your SD and boot into bootloader.
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Which one do you recommend? I've always used clockwork but I was wondering if there was a better one?
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use "AmonRa Recovery v3.11-gnm" for recovery, it's the best.
http://www.mediafire.com/?w2ycdp38dqfg9
put on sdcard, rename to "PC36IMG.zip", boot into bootloader, say yes to install.
after you have amonRa recovery, goto "Recovery", install from zip "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed" to root device.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ycxavwpcvxq6reh
S-off is not "rooted" s-off is just security off meaning you can install unsigned unofficial software in the bootloader, s-on is security enabled requiring an officially signed HTC soft/firmware to be able to flash. Superuser(SU) and busybox are required to obtain root privileges
Edit: you can get superuser by downloading and installing it from the market and busybox installer which will regain root privileges, you can the use flash image to install a recovery .img or use rom manager(not my recommended method) or prior to installing SU and busybox you can flash recovery thru bootloader as a PC36IMG.zip or a recovery.img using fastboot
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
S-off is not "rooted" s-off is just security off meaning you can install unsigned unofficial software in the bootloader, s-on is security enabled requiring an officially signed HTC soft/firmware to be able to flash. Superuser(SU) and busybox are required to obtain root privileges
Edit: you can get superuser by downloading and installing it from the market and busybox installer which will regain root privileges, you can the use flash image to install a recovery .img or use rom manager(not my recommended method) or prior to installing SU and busybox you can flash recovery thru bootloader as a PC36IMG.zip or a recovery.img using fastboot
We are legion, for we are many.
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I'd recommend downloading busybox installer from the market and su as well, and flashing a recovery VIA PC36IMG; I think fastboot may be a bit too much for the user right now.
I was just giving all options available for regaining custom recovery and full root from s-off *shrugs*
Edit: flashing PC36IMG is my preferred method cuz its quick and easy BTW I recommend Amon RA style supersonic recovery v3.11 since it has full capacitive function home = up menu = down back = back search = select no more raping your hardware buttons
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
no more raping your hardware buttons
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Dude, you're hilarious... And you're right. My buttons took quite the raping before I switched.
xcpefrmreality said:
Dude, you're hilarious... And you're right. My buttons took quite the raping before I switched.
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Thanks lol, my hardware buttons took a beating from flashing so much when I got capacitive function my phone gave me a hug lol
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[Q] how to update hboot?

I have S-off
Hboot 2.10.0001
fastboot returns an error for htcdev unlock
if it matters the radio is 2.15.00.11.19
I have clockwork recovery installed.
But I don't have permanent root or any custom roms yet not sure where to go from here to get the hboot updated so hopefully I can make it permanent root & install a rom.
Supersonic evt3
fenrixarena said:
I have S-off
Hboot 2.10.0001
fastboot returns an error for htcdev unlock
if it matters the radio is 2.15.00.11.19
I have clockwork recovery installed.
But I don't have permanent root or any custom roms yet not sure where to go from here to get the hboot updated so hopefully I can make it permanent root & install a rom.
Supersonic evt3
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Boot into cwm and flash a Superuser zip. Then you will have root and S off.
Running a RUU will be the best way to update your Hboot, firmware, software, etc. As stated above, to obtain root just install the latest version of SuperSU or Superuser via recovery.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Running a RUU will be the best way to update your Hboot, firmware, software, etc. As stated above, to obtain root just install the latest version of SuperSU or Superuser via recovery.
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good good.

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