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S-Off but on 6.16hboot w/o root access?

okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.

First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
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Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!

Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?

grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you

actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.

i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.

popasmurfn23 said:
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.

When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !

hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone

[Q] Rooting help!

So I decided to try and unroot my htc evo 4g with this tutorial i found:
[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141&highlight=unroot
I began with the steps that just involved transferring PC36IMG.zip onto my root folder and booting into boot loader. I ran the update and everything and rebooted and my phone seemed to have factory reset. i went back to my bootloader tho to find that it still says "s-off" so i guess its still rooted? I then installed rom manager and when i go to app it says im not rooted. Im so lost and confused I assumed i need to flash a recovery so i used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026 and tried each way. none have worked.
Please help!!
Thanks

Your not rooted just s-off which makes it possible to root.. If you get s on and update your phone to a newer hboot then you can't root.... If you want to be rooted again and have a custom recovery your gonna have to flash a recovery and flash su
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

steviee7 said:
Your not rooted just s-off which makes it possible to root.. If you get s on and update your phone to a newer hboot then you can't root.... If you want to be rooted again and have a custom recovery your gonna have to flash a recovery and flash su
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
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soo how do i go about flashing a recovery and su?
also when i go to bootloader and try to enter recovery i get a black screen with a phone and red caution symbol. is this because i dont have a recovery?

itscuzimazn731 said:
soo how do i go about flashing a recovery and su?
also when i go to bootloader and try to enter recovery i get a black screen with a phone and red caution symbol. is this because i dont have a recovery?
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recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
superuser http://androidsu.com/superuser/
make sure you download the one for gingerbread and also download the su-bin and flash both via recovery

evo4gnoob said:
recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
superuser http://androidsu.com/superuser/
make sure you download the one for gingerbread and also download the su-bin and flash both via recovery
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hrm ive been to the recovery forum and tried all ways to install and none worked. im scared to try the bootloader because last time i updated all it did was erase everything.

itscuzimazn731 said:
hrm ive been to the recovery forum and tried all ways to install and none worked. im scared to try the bootloader because last time i updated all it did was erase everything.
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the only thing that can be flashed in the bootloader that will wipe your phone is a RUU. Flashing a recovery wont erase anything

I also did the bootloader thing and ended up getting a big "**unlocked**" and "**relocked**" symbol above the regular Supersonic EVT3 S-ON. So I dont where this leaves me when its talking about my warranty and getting the device repaired. I wanted to re-root my device but nothing is working now that I am HBoot 2.18

Hey all) Maybe someone knows where to get information on how to write scripts for root.
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium

P. Dexter85 said:
I also did the bootloader thing and ended up getting a big "**unlocked**" and "**relocked**" symbol above the regular Supersonic EVT3 S-ON. So I dont where this leaves me when its talking about my warranty and getting the device repaired. I wanted to re-root my device but nothing is working now that I am HBoot 2.18
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unlock bootloader then downgrade to a earlier version of android like 2.3.3 then accept the OTA and it will say LOCKED s-on http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-) dont do the root part after you downgrade to a earlier version

I just tried this today and it should work.. Use the "HEX" zip file from this forum. Rename it PC36IMG and place it on the root of your SD card..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245649&highlight=how+to+unroot+revolutionary+root
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

Don't do anything else but that and let me know how it goes.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

Such a pain in the butt now. I tried to get s-off for my nephew earlier this month but I threw in the towel. Thought it would be as easy as my phone but it was too late as he had updated his bootloader. My phone was rooted back in January, nice and easy.

Flashing recovery with Revolutionary hboot and S-off (NO ROOT)? [SOLVED]

Hi.
While back I ran Revolutionary tool to S-off and root + CWM recovery.
Recently I ran official 2.3 RUU and used stock ROM. Now I want to try ICS, but I don't have CWM anymore. Revolutionary hboot and S-off is still ok. Tried running Revolutionary tool again, but it says I'm already S-off and tries to install CWM, but fails. Tried to install CWM manually through fastboot, but it hangs on sending file. I can still see the device with "fastboot devices".
Since I used a RUU, I don't have root access anymore.
Any idea on how to flash CWM?

IF u are still s-off u can flash a new recovery, click 4ext recovery on my sig, download and install the 4ext recovery updater app then flash recovery. to get root just flash superuser zip file
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
IF u are still s-off u can flash a new recovery, click 4ext recovery on my sig, download and install the 4ext recovery updater app then flash recovery. to get root just flash superuser zip file
Sent from my HTC Desire
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The 4EXT recovery updater app says it requres root access to function. But it don't have root

install superuser
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
install superuser
Sent from my HTC Desire
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How can that help me, when I don't have root access? The superuser apk itself does no good without root access. The 4EXT app need busybox, and busybox needs root.
This is the situation:
I want a custom recovery. But for that, I need root. And to get root, I need a custom recovery. It is an evil circle! But since I have Revolutionary hboot and S-OFF, there must be some way I can get a custom recovery.

Kresstian said:
How can that help me, when I don't have root access? The superuser apk itself does no good without root access. The 4EXT app need busybox, and busybox needs root.
This is the situation:
I want a custom recovery. But for that, I need root. And to get root, I need a custom recovery. It is an evil circle! But since I have Revolutionary hboot and S-OFF, there must be some way I can get a custom recovery.
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The first step:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
Download recovery image and flash it via fastboot, or using some flasher.
Then like you did before flash Superuser .zip:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
After that you'll have root access and you can flash 4ext recovery as well.

nlooooo said:
The first step:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
Download recovery image and flash it via fastboot, or using some flasher.
Then like you did before flash Superuser .zip:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
After that you'll have root access and you can flash 4ext recovery as well.
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I quote myself from my initial post:
"Tried to install CWM manually through fastboot, but it hangs on sending file. I can still see the device with "fastboot devices"."
So that don't work for me, sorry. Seems I can't write to recovery partition. Didn't work with the Revolutionary tool either. The only thing I can think of, that could work, is if the Revolutionary tool could see the device as untouched by the tool, and start the process from the beginning.

Did you try with erase recovery command, and then flash recovery?
If that doesn't work, 2.3 RUU and start from scratch.

nlooooo said:
Did you try with erase recovery command, and then flash recovery?
If that doesn't work, 2.3 RUU and start from scratch.
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Seems to hang on erase command too. Screenshot:
I'll try to do another RUU.

I managed to flash CWM! Just had to change computers. Weird, since my Windows is fairly fresh and had all the right drivers.

Help! Droid Incredible "Half-Way" Rooted

Hey all,
So I upgraded to a Droid DNA a couple of months ago, so I decided to root my OG Droid Incredible (SLCD).
I followed the guide here: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351) to the letter. When I got to the step where I ran unrevoked, it flashed ClockWorkMod recovery, but didn't finish the process. So what happened is now I have ClockWorkMod recovery, and a Stock ROM that doesn't have Root access. (I downloaded a couple of different root checkers from the market and I got "no root access" results".
I tried flashing the stock recovery using the PB31IMG.zip method, but in HBOOT my phone won't recognize the file on my Micro SDcard, even though it's on the root, and properly named.
Can anyone help me get my phone completely rooted, or at least back to stock-stock so I can use a different method?
P.S I did check all MD5 sums, and the phone still works perfectly....it's just in a weird "limbo" state of rooted or not.
Thanks!

FCO2011 said:
Hey all,
So I upgraded to a Droid DNA a couple of months ago, so I decided to root my OG Droid Incredible (SLCD).
I followed the guide here: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351) to the letter. When I got to the step where I ran unrevoked, it flashed ClockWorkMod recovery, but didn't finish the process. So what happened is now I have ClockWorkMod recovery, and a Stock ROM that doesn't have Root access. (I downloaded a couple of different root checkers from the market and I got "no root access" results".
I tried flashing the stock recovery using the PB31IMG.zip method, but in HBOOT my phone won't recognize the file on my Micro SDcard, even though it's on the root, and properly named.
Can anyone help me get my phone completely rooted, or at least back to stock-stock so I can use a different method?
P.S I did check all MD5 sums, and the phone still works perfectly....it's just in a weird "limbo" state of rooted or not.
Thanks!
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If you have cwm flashed then just flash superuser http://dinc.does-it.net/Superuser/SuperUser_3.1.1.zip, thru cwm. Then you will be rooted. Also remember to install busybox from the market.
Alternativley you could just flash a rom of your choosing, as roms come pre rooted and with busybox.

cmlusco said:
If you have cwm flashed then just flash superuser http://dinc.does-it.net/Superuser/SuperUser_3.1.1.zip, thru cwm. Then you will be rooted. Also remember to install busybox from the market.
Alternativley you could just flash a rom of your choosing, as roms come pre rooted and with busybox.
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Alrighty,
So I tried this just now, and it still didn't work. It flashed SU successfully, but two different root checkers I DL'd told me I still don't have root access. I'm also s-on still, I forgot to mention. Busybox was also telling me it didn't have proper access.

FCO2011 said:
Alrighty,
So I tried this just now, and it still didn't work. It flashed SU successfully, but two different root checkers I DL'd told me I still don't have root access. I'm also s-on still, I forgot to mention. Busybox was also telling me it didn't have proper access.
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Strange, is the superuser app in the app drawer? Your bootloader is unlocked right? You may need to do an ruu and start over.

cmlusco said:
Strange, is the superuser app in the app drawer? Your bootloader is unlocked right? You may need to do an ruu and start over.
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Yeah Superuser is in my app drawer. I'm not sure about the bootloader. How can I check? I've tried doing an RUU, didn't work either of the times I tried to.

FCO2011 said:
Yeah Superuser is in my app drawer. I'm not sure about the bootloader. How can I check? I've tried doing an RUU, didn't work either of the times I tried to.
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Boot to hboot (vol down + power), it should say at the top. Give me all the info there. You may need to reformat your sdcard fat32 to get the ruu to work. Try going to menu settings applications manage applications all tab find superuser and clear its data. Then open superuser go to preferences and select binary update.

cmlusco said:
Boot to hboot (vol down + power), it should say at the top. Give me all the info there. You may need to reformat your sdcard fat32 to get the ruu to work. Try going to menu settings applications manage applications all tab find superuser and clear its data. Then open superuser go to preferences and select binary update.
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This is the information from hboot:
LOCKED (OOW)
INCREDIBLE XD SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.02.0000
MICROP-0417
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16AC
RADIO-2.15.10.07.07
DEC 12 2011,23:37:16
I'm guessing my bootloader is still locked then.
I've did reformat my sdcard when I was going to do the RUU but it still didn't work , but I will try that again anyway.
Cleared SU's data and did the binary update, no change. Doesn't recognize that busybox is installed, even though it's installed. Does BB have to be flashed? Because I DL'd busybox from the market.
Thanks for all the help so far!
EDIT:
I was able to RUU, using the most recent GB OTA RUU from here: http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22 Didn't look like anything changed. I also tried flashing the stock recovery through HBOOT but I got this message:
Main Version is older!
Update Fail!
Do you want to reboot device?
<VOL UP> Yes
<VOL DOWN> No

ok first of yu should unlock ur bootloader via htcdev unlock method...then downgrade bak to froyo gingerbread for what i remember didn't allow us to have soff via unrevoked. what android version are yu running? try to ruu via desktop if nothing works :/
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elzimmer said:
ok first of yu should unlock ur bootloader via htcdev unlock method...then downgrade bak to froyo gingerbread for what i remember didn't allow us to have soff via unrevoked. what android version are yu running? try to ruu via desktop if nothing works :/
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Would the HTCdev method work even though I'm running CWM recovery?
I'm running 2.3.4 stock nonrooted
Tried RUU'ing already, didn't work, at least it didn't change anything.

so u can downgrade to froyo u have to follow a different guide to downgrade soff root upgrade to gingerbread (if thats ur preferred rom) or because if ur son u cant flash the boot.img in any rom and will be needed if u wanna flash something like cm or any thing else
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elzimmer said:
so u can downgrade to froyo u have to follow a different guide to downgrade soff root upgrade to gingerbread (if thats ur preferred rom) or because if ur son u cant flash the boot.img in any rom and will be needed if u wanna flash something like cm or any thing else
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Alright, so you're saying I should downgrade to froyo first, then achieve s-off and root?

FCO2011 said:
Alright, so you're saying I should downgrade to froyo first, then achieve s-off and root?
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You need to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash cwm , flash superuser thru cwm, fastboot flash froyo misc img thru hboot, flash froyo ruu thru hboot, reunlock bootloader, fastbootflash cwm, flash superuser or a rom of your choosing. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258.

cmlusco said:
You need to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash cwm , flash superuser thru cwm, fastboot flash froyo misc img thru hboot, flash froyo ruu thru hboot, reunlock bootloader, fastbootflash cwm, flash superuser or a rom of your choosing. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258.
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Haha, I actually just found your guide too, right before I checked this thread. Alrighty, going to go through this guide.
Quick question, since I already have CWM recovery, do I need to reflash it? it is the same version (5.0.2.0). I also flashed the super user zip you posted earlier. should I reflash the one in the guide?
Thanks again so much for your help!

FCO2011 said:
Haha, I actually just found your guide too, right before I checked this thread. Alrighty, going to go through this guide.
Quick question, since I already have CWM recovery, do I need to reflash it? it is the same version (5.0.2.0). I also flashed the super user zip you posted earlier. should I reflash the one in the guide?
Thanks again so much for your help!
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I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.

cmlusco said:
I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
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Thanks! Will do.

cmlusco said:
I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
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Alright,
So I unlocked successfully, flashed su.zip, reflashed CWM recovery, and got to the busy box step.
I'm using jrummy's installer from the market, and it's telling me I have root access. But when I try to install it, it doesn't work. It just sits there "installing busybox". I also used a rootchecker app and that one says I still don't have root access, even though the busybox installer says I do. Superuser also tells me I don't have root access when I go to update the binaries.

FCO2011 said:
Alright,
So I unlocked successfully, flashed su.zip, reflashed CWM recovery, and got to the busy box step.
I'm using jrummy's installer from the market, and it's telling me I have root access. But when I try to install it, it doesn't work. It just sits there "installing busybox". I also used a rootchecker app and that one says I still don't have root access, even though the busybox installer says I do. Superuser also tells me I don't have root access when I go to update the binaries.
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Try doing a full wipe and then flashing a rom.

cmlusco said:
Try doing a full wipe and then flashing a rom.
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oh, nevermind, busy box installed. It just took a really, really, really long time. Thanks though!

[q] s-off reroot...

Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!

jay-walker said:
Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!
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You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.

ssooo bananagranol...
bananagranola said:
You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.
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tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!

jay-walker said:
tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!
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You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.

OK - kewl!
bananagranola said:
You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.
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I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!

GuyInTheCorner's ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF
jay-walker said:
I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!
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For anyone else interested in S-OFF REROOT...
GuyInTheCorner gives instructions on how to do this... ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF (with no custom recovery)
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair! Its a relatively easy fix, all you need is a little time. . Now you'll have to have a card reader for this part. Using a card reader, place a PD198IMG.zip on the root of your SD Card (this means directly onto the SD Card, NOT IN A FOLDER) that contains a custom recovery. What you want to do now is to boot into HBOOT (Volume up+Power). Once you've done that it will automatically try to detect a PD198IMG.zip (which is already on your SD Card). It will flash it and you'll have yourself a custom recovery. Now using the volume buttons to navigate up and down respectively navigate to the RECOVERY option and press the power button. Now you're in your custom recovery, open the mounts section and mount your SD Card to your PC. Now download a SuperUser.zip and flash it in recovery. Congrats! You've flashed a custom recovery and are now rooted! Enjoy
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here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37500024&postcount=1349

jay-walker said:
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair!
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You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.

HTCDEV...
bananagranola said:
You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.
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banana g.... point taken!
I didn't use HTCDEV to unlock the bootloader I used AAHK to achieve S-OFF! So, I should be OK with the procedure you and GuyInTheCorner refer to - yeah?

Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.

glevitan said:
Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.
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easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,

jay-walker said:
easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,
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if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI use 4ext updater.

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glevitan said:
if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI .
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tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I flash CWM or install SuperUser?

jay-walker said:
tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I install SuperUser - anyone?
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What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.

What happened?
bananagranola said:
What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.
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I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!

jay-walker said:
I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!
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ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.

glevitan said:
ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.
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I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?

bananagranola said:
I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?
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Yeah, that is one of the possiblities. However, he should be able to flash CWM in fastboot, SU and then flash 4ext as he is S-OFF.