If I am s off and my bootloader is the 2.10 version is there any way to get s on or to flash a new recovery or am I just screwed? Any help appreciated
What are you trying to do exactly? Why do you think you're screwed?
We're comin from a pure power source.
Somehow boot into recovery to turn s on I have no recovery becauseo accidentally did an OTA and upgraded the bootloader to 2.10 after I was already revoked forever
If you are S-Off, you're still Rooted (Well not really rooted, I think, but you can flash recovery and ROMS that have root)
And the 2.10 version is the Hboot you want, too.
The new locked one is 2.16.xx
Seems like you may be confused.
Yes but after the updated bootloader when I boot into recovery all have is a red arrow
Also superuser say I dont have root
As long as you're S-Off, you can flash recovery by putting the Amon Ra (Recommended) PC36IMG.zip on the root of your SD Card, boot up by holding power and volume down at the same time, then when it boots into Hboot, it does it's scan, finds PC36IMG.zip and asks if you want to update. Hit yes, then let it flash, then it will reboot to Hboot again.
It'll scan and find the image again and ask if you want to update again, and this time, hit no, then select recovery and you should be good to go.
Here's the link to Amon Ra: Amon Ra
Thanks I didnt know if that would work since superuser was saying I didn't have root
Realistically, you don't. S-Off isn't root. S-Off means the security is off so you can flash custom images onto your phone, starting with Recovery. Recovery gives you the ability to flash .zip files like ROMS, Mods, Themes, etc. Root is, if I have this correctly, in the ROM you flash.
I know on the Moment, it was in the kernel.
If you took the OTA, you're not rooted despite being nand unlocked (s-off). Flash the recovery of your choice, make a nandroid backup, wipe cache & dalvik cache, then flash the rooted version. However, you said you're on the older hboot, so maybe you didn't take the OTA?
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The latest ota should have put you to hboot 2.16. Regardless, it doesn't turn you s on. You are still s off which means you are able to flash alternative recovery as previously mentioned. I was able to downgrade from 2.16 back to 2.10 after taking the ota. I was in the process of unrooting to get phone repaired. But I was only able to downgrade due to my security being set to s off. If I had run unrevoked s on tool prior to ota, then I would not have been able to downgrade and would have lost root permanently until a new exploit gets discovered. That is what I ultimately did. I am s on with latest hboot. Unrooted is not really good. Hehe.
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Theres a new OTA of course that includes gingerbread but I need to download 3.7 in order to get to that. That of course means I need to unroot and thats my problem. I cannot get rid of clockwork recovery and have tried all day to. (Havent showered). I have s-on and used unrevoked 3 to root. Please help me get rid of clockwok recovery.
Why not just flash a rooted version of the update there are a few good ones out and once you unroot it will be harder to root after the update.
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If you don't ever want to root again, or if you don't mind waiting awhile, just run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG of the RUU through the bootloader. This will get rid of your recovery.
If you want to stay rooted, don't accept the update. If you can still get into recovery, flash unrevoked forever through recovery. Or just run unrevoked from your computer. Then download a stock rooted rom from here and flash that. Do a nandroid backup before flashing. Accepting the OTA while s-on will leave you without root until someone finds a new root method for the latest update.
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I tried a PC36IMG and they sad they were invalid. I also tried an RUU and all it did was wipe my phone storage.
Hi,
may be its already known, but i just realized one cool thing - if u have s-off bootloader, u are still be master of your device, even if u have installed Stock RUU or OTA and lost recovery & root. You want to ask how ?
1) Take somewhere CWM image in .img format and rename it to recovery.img
2) Take file android-info.txt from RUU of Stock ROM u have installed
3) Put above 2 files into PC10IMG.zip archive
4) Copy created PC10IMG.zip to root of your sd card
5) reboot into bootloader mode (press and hold 'volume down' then 'power' until u see bootloader screen.
6) be patient while it find your PC10IMG and ask if you really want to flash it. Here should word RECOVERY.
7) Agree to flash (press 'volume up')
8) Wait while it flashes recovery, when it finish - ask you to press 'power' to reboot
9) Woala! Now you have custom recovery and free to flash any custom ROM or just Superuser update to obtain root with stock rom.
As i understand that way will work to flash any part of ROM (system, boot, etc.)
Btw, for those who scare - just tested that twice: 1st time flash old recovery 3.0.0.5, reboot into recovery and checked that version is 3.0.0.5; then flashed latest one 3.0.2.4 - now recovery is of version 3.0.2.4.
I prepared PC10IMG.zip with clockworkmod recovery 3.0.2.4 - http://www.multiupload.com/6LOA99IGW1 .
i got my phone back from repair unrooted and with stock 2.3.3 rom. somehow it had SHIP S-OFF though and this worked for me. right now i'm doing a backup of the rom, and afterwards i'll try restoring cm7 from before i sent the phone in for repair...i'll keep you posted.
I went through this whole ordeal not long ago. I had eng hboot, radio s-off, root, nine yards. Messed up the rom I had, and had the official GB pc10img on the root of my sd card, not thinking (and needing my phone asap) I went ahead and installed it. I ended up just downloading the official ota update pc10img, flashing it, and rerooting/flashing eng hboot.
As long as you have S-OFF in the bootloader, you can flash ANY pc10img meant for the htc vision.
I managed to install CM6.1.1 so that I would have android 2.2 (not sure if this was necessary), got perma root and pushed ENG HBOOT. Now on CM7.1, no issues to report.
So does it work with stock 2.3.3? Great!
edit, where is "android-info.txt" ? Because i upgraded via OTA.
No, it only works with a previously rooted and s-offed phone with latest RUU installed. Then you still have S-OFF but stock firmware without custom recovery. This method will give clockworkmod back.
Can anyone else confirm that the latest OTA update 4.53.651.1 is fully rootable with Revolutionary. It has been mentioned by one member (squidlymandingo) that it is fully rootable (flashes to S-OFF), but it is always better to have at least 2 confirmations.
The phone needs to be S-ON, and on Android 2.3.3 with stock Recovery to fully confirm that it works.
I previously ran Revolutionary on the 4.53 update myself, and it installed the Revolutionary patched Hboot 6.16 just like it was supposed to, however, the phone was already S-OFF from a previous unrevoked-forever flash. I also can confirm from other experiments that updating from 4.24 to 4.53 will break root, but leave an S-OFF phone S-OFF, with unrevoked-forever and Revolutionary.
If there are any other testers out there, the patched file can be downloaded from
http://www.mediafire.com/?bjxvuyc1mupcyzc
Change the name to update. Copy it to the root of your SD card. Boot into your bootloader, then go to your RECOVERY. At the triangle and exclamation point, hit volume up (not down) and the power button at the same time. Choose apply sdcard:update.zip (or whatever it says).
There is no Hboot flash in the update, so I do not expect that it will be patched so that the phone will not root, but hopefully some one else can confirm this, and do not need to experiment, so that accepting the next update will not affect those who plan to have root.
AND OF COURSE IF YOU'RE NOT A TESTER, THEN I DO NOT RECOMMEND ACCEPTING OTAS IF YOU WANT ROOT.
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Can anyone else confirm that the latest OTA update 4.53.651.1 is fully rootable with Revolutionary. It has been mentioned by one member (squidlymandingo) that it is fully rootable (flashes to S-OFF), but it is always better to have at least 2 confirmations.
The phone needs to be S-ON, and on Android 2.3.3 with stock Recovery to fully confirm that it works.
I previously ran Revolutionary on the 4.53 update myself, and it installed the Revolutionary patched Hboot 6.16 just like it was supposed to, however, the phone was already S-OFF from a previous unrevoked-forever flash. I also can confirm from other experiments that updating from 4.24 to 4.53 will break root, but leave an S-OFF phone S-OFF, with unrevoked-forever and Revolutionary.
If there are any other testers out there, the patched file can be downloaded from
http://www.mediafire.com/?bjxvuyc1mupcyzc
Change the name to update. Copy it to the root of your SD card. Boot into your bootloader, then go to your RECOVERY. At the triangle and exclamation point, hit volume up (not down) and the power button at the same time. Choose apply sdcard:update.zip (or whatever it says).
There is no Hboot flash in the update, so I do not expect that it will be patched so that the phone will not root, but hopefully some one else can confirm this, and do not need to experiment, so that accepting the next update will not affect those who plan to have root.
AND OF COURSE IF YOU'RE NOT A TESTER, THEN I DO NOT RECOMMEND ACCEPTING OTAS IF YOU WANT ROOT.
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I haven't looked into the root as I already have root, though just looking at your 'instructions' I see a problem: when you talk about booting into recovery with the triangle and ! mark, to press up - I doubt that will work because I don't believe pressing up does anything to begin with, and you'd already need to have a recovery to run the update.zip. The triangle and ! mark is stock recovery, which is no recovery, and either cwm, amon_ra, or twrp recoveries need to be flashed; unless you can provide some documentation that says otherwise.
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I haven't looked into the root as I already have root, though just looking at your 'instructions' I see a problem: when you talk about booting into recovery with the triangle and ! mark, to press up - I doubt that will work because I don't believe pressing up does anything to begin with, and you'd already need to have a recovery to run the update.zip. The triangle and ! mark is stock recovery, which is no recovery, and either cwm, amon_ra, or twrp recoveries need to be flashed; unless you can provide some documentation that says otherwise.
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I don't have documentation in front of me, but without clockwork or Amon, stock has a hidden recovery. That's why it's volume up not down at the triangle. I've used it for manually installing OTAs.
I have an old stock recovery attached, if someone wants to install and then try the RECOVERY to see what I'm talking about with the volume up + power buttons at the triangle after going to RECOVERY. I don't have the latest one, but it works the same as the old one.
Well, if you get any takers, do let me know the result of it.
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Well, if you get any takers, do let me know the result of it.
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Sure. Many of us would like to know.
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Well, if you get any takers, do let me know the result of it.
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Well, after getting a lot of confirmations, 2, to confirm that the new OTA is rootable and after doing some careful experiments, I decided to give it a go. 4.53.651.1 is rootable the exact same way as 4.24, even with S-ON. So, no one has to worry if they are thinking about updating to the latest 4.53 software build. Also as I said before, updating from 4.24 S-OFF root to 4.53 will break the root, but will leave the phone S-OFF, so that it is easily rerooted. This was tested with both unrevoked-forever and Revolutionary.
I even managed to downgrade the Hboot twice from 6.16, back to 2.10 and then to 2.02, but it was tricky.
Updating and re rooting
I can confirm this works, well I think I went about it alittle differently. I nandroided back to my stock rom, downloaded the ota, installed without unrooting or flashing a different hboot. the update took, the phone was still s-off, all I had to do was use revolutionary to re flash cwm, once that was done. I reflashed superuser zip just in case and flashed amon ra. stock ota rooted and making a nandroid as we speak
I am stuck in Stock "Firmware Version 2.1-update 1" with Software Number 1.47.651.1 and even though I constantly check for OTA updates, the phone says that there are no updates for my phone.
Here is how I got here: I got my Evo 4G a few days after it came out. I was an early adopter of Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever (S-Off). Things were great. Eventually, an OTA slipped by and forced my phone into a boot loop. I was able to use Clockwork to restore one of my backups and then avoid further OTA's.
I decided that I wanted to go stock, and get to the newest OTA. I used the RUU method to get my phone back to its stock rom. Then, the phone found two OTA updates. I thought that it probably had to update in several steps instead of jumping right to the latest update, so I just accepted the first two OTA's that it found. Unfortunately, the phone will not find any more updates and I am stuck with 2.1 (1.47.651.1).
I also noticed that when I boot into recovery, there is no "recovery" there. I see the word recovery, but when I select recovery it takes me to a red triangle with an exclamation point in the middle. I tried to download and install the 2.3.3 OTA Rom by renaming it to update.zip and putting it on my sd card, but I got some errors and it would not install.
I wonder if having S-Off has anything to do with the phone refusing to find the newest OTA updates? Or maybe I need a new radio? But if I reverted all the weay back to stock, wouldn't all of this been taken care of during the RUU method?
If anyone can help me get to the newest official version of Android, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks very much!
You need to install a recovery, I suggest amon-ra, then download a rom and flash it through recovery. Sounds like you just don't have a recovery installed
We're comin from a pure power source.
But am I unrooted now that I went back to stock with the RUU? If so, can I flash a recovery?
Thanks!
once u get to the little evo with the exclamation point, hit volume up and power at the same time. It takes u to a stock recovery. Or just flash a custom recovery as said above as a PC36IMG.zip flash a custom rom and viola! Or the other method u can do is take it to a sprint store and have THEM run the stock 2.2 RUU, get you to 2.3.3 and you should be able to update to the OFFICIAL AOS but of course as with anything stock, you run the risk of losing full root. But I doubt it because I just rooted a stock evo with the latest 4.54 OTA update just fine. hope this helps. Good luck with any way you choose to go.
Whether you are s-off or s-on doesn't matter to run the latest 4. 54 ruu. Download it and run it. U will then have latest software. Then if ur not s-off go to revolutionary.io and get s-off'ed
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Whether you are s-off or s-on doesn't matter to run the latest 4. 54 ruu. Download it and run it. U will then have latest software. Then if ur not s-off go to revolutionary.io and get s-off'ed
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I will agree with this person. Sounds easier than my post lol google-foo will prove to be a useful tool young grasshoppa -_- (goooong) no racial slur intended ppl
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
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Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!
Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?
grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you
actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.
i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.
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okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.
When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !
hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone