Possible to block hardware throttling? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Often when you over clock, the phone heats up and starts to slow itself down from getting too hot. Is it possible to bypass that?

Arrio said:
Often when you over clock, the phone heats up and starts to slow itself down from getting too hot. Is it possible to bypass that?
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Which part of TOO HOT is so hard to understand? I'm no ARM CPU expert but heat throttling is usually hard-wired into the CPU. For a good reason.

Arrio said:
Often when you over clock, the phone heats up and starts to slow itself down from getting too hot. Is it possible to bypass that?
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put your phone in the microwave on high for 30 seconds. This will disable the temp sensor......................
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If you haven't seen this yet, you should.
It's a video from a brief period when Intel had reliable thermal throttling, but AMD's wasn't reliable yet:

If you wanna avoid throttling, reduce heat. Could consider picking the phone appart to reapply thermal paste, and or put some extra holes in it for cooling.

SO.... you want your phone to overheat and get damaged?
Good call.

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My GNex has been overheating all the time while watching flash videos for an exclusive time (30 mins) and browser +apps have been crashing quite a lot due to overheat.
I'm running on 4.1.1 with Franco's kernel clocked at 1.3ghz.
I'm thinking of putting thermal paste between the cover and the phone. What are your thoughts?
Arrio said:
My GNex has been overheating all the time while watching flash videos for an exclusive time (30 mins) and browser +apps have been crashing quite a lot due to overheat.
I'm running on 4.1.1 with Franco's kernel clocked at 1.3ghz.
I'm thinking of putting thermal paste between the cover and the phone. What are your thoughts?
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Considering the workload placed on the CPU and GPU in Jellybean, the overclocking will be causing you issues. I think the word FACEPALM comes to mind when saying you've got a overheating problem with a overclocked processor.
Where you gonna put that thermal paste?
butter and jelly please...
Its because your over clocking the CPU. Stock set at 920 MHz.
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I'm thinking of putting thermal paste between the cover and the phone. What are your thoughts?
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I really hope this part is a joke. First, the back of the phone (under the cover) isn't a source of heat generation, but rather heating up due to radiant heat. Second, if it got warm enough, the TIM could leak down into your battery or SIM cavity. Either could potentially be fatal to the phone, depending upon the TIM components (some are partially conductive). Third, the plastic back isn't a great heat conductor. Even if you could somehow channel heat to the back cover (which happens to be the only purpose of TIM... to transfer heat from one area to another), plastic wouldn't properly dissipate the heat. Fourth, if you used the wrong TIM, you'd essentially glue the back cover onto the device.
*TIM = Thermal Interface Material, which refers to any form of "thermal paste", "thermal goo", "CPU paste", or whatever you want to call it.
Flash videos for 30 minutes, huh?
Haha..
Gross.
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again, someone is complaining of overheating, yet not posting cpu or battery temps. overheating can be a relative term meaning something to one person and another thing to a different person. if you are sitting in ac, and you pick your phone up, it might feel quite warm to you. if you are outside in the summer heat, the phone at the same temp might feel cool to you. anyways, the phone getting hot whike watching flash videos for 30 minutes is quite normal. if your phone does "overheat", and you have thermal throttling turned off, itll just shut itself off at 110C as a safety feature.

This phone still overheats in the middle of winter when playing games.

This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
6000 points on Quadrant? The max I got was around 3400...
Anyway, I think it is normal to a device to overheat and lose performance when it gets hotter. Same for too cold (under 0ÂșC). The colder, the better the performance. That's why all eletronics should be kept cool.
I could have excused it for overheating during summer with 35C room temperature, but with less than 20C and after just less than one hour?
How is this acceptable? Seriously, what is wrong with this phone?
I am raging uncontrollably right now. I can't believe I was so stupid to get this turdphone TWICE before realizing it was indeed a massive stinking turd.
And yeah, it's not 6000 points but 3500, when it overheats it gets much less, and I notice it's happening even before the score gets displayed, because usually the planet thingy runs at 60FPS but when it's overheated it runs at around 40.
GOD DAMN.
Oh and by the way, if it overheats during gameplay, it also overheats during web browsing or EVERYTHING really. And EVERY SINGLE XPERIA S IN EXISTENCE has this problem. Yours too.
You better not use it too much, or it might overheat and start running slower than a X10. What, you bought your phone to use it? LOLZ.
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definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
About overheat on my phone, yeah it does sometimes. During summer it can get up to 40C (the ambient, not phone), the phone overheats while using for browsing, but I think it's normal.
It gets hot when playing NFS:MW, the performance drops but I just have to leave there for 30 min and its good again.
The phone generally gets up to 43 C when playing...
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m1st3r1 said:
definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
MarkMRL said:
Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
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If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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MarkMRL said:
Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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I know how to keep the performance as good as it was cold. But the temperature won't drop i meant it's still warm.
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MarkMRL said:
This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. ****ING. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
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Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
MarkMRL said:
I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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um..that's not the case, AT ALL.
The thermal throttling kicked in so that's why the OP seeing lowered performance.
Please read more about hardware before you post these.
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Piyush Rawal said:
Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
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Ooo....Internet smart guy! From India! Wow what a deal!
MarkMRL said:
I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
OP, buy another phone then, problem solved, you're welcome. :good:
God help you it you bought a S3, but seriously time of year is not gonna change a overheating issue and 35-40 is the ideal temp for optimal performance
And I know 4 people in IT, and their knowledge is pretty much on par with yours judging by your posts
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MarkMRL said:
I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
Felimenta97 said:
It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
cracksquirrel said:
If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
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Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
-PiLoT- said:
Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Which temperature separates heating and overheating, then?
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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It's 45 nm, dual core and 1.5 gHz. ofc it got hot. But not overheating. When the hardware is overheating, it'll turn off, u should know that.. I said again, it's the rom/kernel that asked the procie to lower itself when in some temp. mine? I never have this problem since in cm10. Read my posts again. And surely I benchmarked over and over again (antutu) and the scores are vary, but not very much (I even got Max scored at my fifth try, the phone was hot though, but it was alright)
And if u search about xperia s overheating, there are some talks (even here in xda) bout performance hits, etc.. but it was way back there... I thought ppl already learn how to handle this... well, I thought wrong.
Ang if u thought the phone is hot, try playing with HTC one x...
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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i said remove it as a cahed process then run it again.
also why run a benchmark. its a hypothtical scoring number

Is the overheating caused by the 4.4.2 update? will it be fixed when Android L come?

I read many other android device users android device on 4.4.2 was overheating. Maybe thats the cause of it?
raaghul said:
I read many other android device users android device on 4.4.2 was overheating. Maybe thats the cause of it?
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No,its not. Its because the CPU and GPU are having to work harder to render the QHD display,therefore there more heat.
There is no such thing as over heating. People are just crying about stuff.
I wouldn't say over heating, more like generating heat, every LG phone I've had got hot, I had the LG g pro when using gps it reach 120 degrees, that's why I returned this phone gave me sweaty hands
This def doesn't get as hot as the S4, Note 3, or S5 that I've recently had. It even stays cooler than the G2 I had also.
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androidaddict23 said:
I wouldn't say over heating, more like generating heat, every LG phone I've had got hot, I had the LG g pro when using gps it reach 120 degrees, that's why I returned this phone gave me sweaty hands
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How long were you using the GPS, when it got 120 degree?
I see 170* plus sometimes. I use a Xposed add in to display CPU temp in status bar. GPS makes it hot because screen is always on. Lowering the brightness helps, but when using the GPS on a longer trip I try and aim some AC at it and then it cools down to 120-130*. My previous phone Note 3 did the same thing although I think the LG G3 gets a little hotter. Sure I worry about heat damaging components that's why I monitor CPU temp through Xposed.
njcobra10tha said:
I see 170* plus sometimes. I use a Xposed add in to display CPU temp in status bar. GPS makes it hot because screen is always on. Lowering the brightness helps, but when using the GPS on a longer trip I try and aim some AC at it and then it cools down to 120-130*. My previous phone Note 3 did the same thing although I think the LG G3 gets a little hotter. Sure I worry about heat damaging components that's why I monitor CPU temp through Xposed.
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170 F or C??
170* F sorry this silly American forgets the rest of the world is on the metric system.
njcobra10tha said:
I see 170* plus sometimes. I use a Xposed add in to display CPU temp in status bar. GPS makes it hot because screen is always on. Lowering the brightness helps, but when using the GPS on a longer trip I try and aim some AC at it and then it cools down to 120-130*. My previous phone Note 3 did the same thing although I think the LG G3 gets a little hotter. Sure I worry about heat damaging components that's why I monitor CPU temp through Xposed.
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I use GPS mapping apps all the time and don't keep the screen on. Google maps won't query location when the screen is off unless you run something else like Locus in the background to keep the tracking active. Never have any issues with heat.
njcobra10tha said:
170* F sorry this silly American forgets the rest of the world is on the metric system.
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I'm American also but I've gotten in the habit of using metric for phone temps since being on XDA lol.
I think you're ok. I use the same module and every G3 I tested so far (4) have shown up to 80 C (176 F) right after a reboot. It cools down quickly tho.
Skizzy034 said:
I'm American also but I've gotten in the habit of using metric for phone temps since being on XDA lol.
I think you're ok. I use the same module and every G3 I tested so far (4) have shown up to 80 C (176 F) right after a reboot. It cools down quickly tho.
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Hey, I underclocked the cpu with setcpu to 1267mhz, but it still heats like it normally do. do you think it could be battery problem?

I have suffering from the mysterious heating, did anyone had this problem?

Hello everyone, this is my first post.
My phone is LG D855, bought from two years ago.
I know the S801 will running at 2.5ghz as its needed, which will increase the cpu temperature temporary in an acceptable range.
Therefore, I start thinking the problem about the CPU. Then I used the kernel auditor to force down the frequency and the voltage as low as possible.
But the situation still doesn't changed!! And the most weird part is that heating is not continuously but it will burn up suddenly for no reason and no any sign. The CPU temp has been reached around 62-70 degrees, and YES! You got that right, it is hot like I am using the laptop processor on my phone.
The things I had tried before :
Flashed many roms ( Including various stock roms )
Replaced a few new batteries ( Some of those was already dead )
Changing the CPU frequency and voltage ( Minimum 268MHz @650mv , Maximum 1497MHz @840mv)
Force to turn multi-cores off to 2-3 Cores
Apply some heat diffuser tape inside the phone ( Sorry, I don't know the name of that thing, it is black and the iPhone used it too)
After all these messing
Nothings has changed! Yeah! This phone is driving me crazy!
Imagine that something like a fireball burning in your pocket?
I had been suffering from LG G4's CPU issue enough. I was using the G3 before I had the G4
Because of the quality of the G4's camera, and in that time, my G3 just work very well. So I decided to buy G4 at that moment. But the result just told me I had made a wrong decision.
I just go back to G3 since my G4 was died, and now the G3 works very bad...
I am really disappointed on all LG's phones. I will never go there again.
Yeah first of all this is a messed up phone all over place. Heat and CPU throttling because of heat brings lag to phone. 62-70 Celsius us usually became normal for this phone, in summer it becomes worse. I know some people will say install this install that but there is no way. If you have enough money sell this and buy a new phone but if you don't have money try to apply thermal paste to your phone there is instructions in general section about that. Good luck.
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ceza1380 said:
Yeah first of all this is a messed up phone all over place. Heat and CPU throttling because of heat brings lag to phone. 62-70 Celsius us usually became normal for this phone, in summer it becomes worse. I know some people will say install this install that but there is no way. If you have enough money sell this and buy a new phone but if you don't have money try to apply thermal paste to your phone there is instructions in general section about that. Good luck.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but the heat are still there even if I apply some paste on the die, doesn't it?
There seems the problem is just not about the hot air flow won't get out from the device, it's the CPU draining my battery as well, which is mean the heating is just one of those problems. The battery problem is can't be ignored too. When I noticed the phone start burning, I will take it out from the pocket and observe its battery status. And the result is very incredible, it had lost 10% battery life in just 10 minutes!
I had enough money to buy a new one, but just don't want to waste any money on phones until this one die.
I am not a power user or even not a gamer anymore, just used my phone for web surfing or chatting with friends. Although s801 is just way too much performance for me to doing those ordinary tasks, I still keep it for the QHD screen. Those cheap phones, yes, they are already matched my requirement but not included the screen.
cuepudding said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but the heat are still there even if I apply some paste on the die, doesn't it?
There seems the problem is just not about the hot air flow won't get out from the device, it's the CPU draining my battery as well, which is mean the heating is just one of those problems. The battery problem is can't be ignored too. When I noticed the phone start burning, I will take it out from the pocket and observe its battery status. And the result is very incredible, it had lost 10% battery life in just 10 minutes!
I had enough money to buy a new one, but just don't want to waste any money on phones until this one die.
I am not a power user or even not a gamer anymore, just used my phone for web surfing or chatting with friends. Although s801 is just way too much performance for me to doing those ordinary tasks, I still keep it for the QHD screen. Those cheap phones, yes, they are already matched my requirement but not included the screen.
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People say thermal paste help them to get down heat. The problem is that G3 doesn't have any thermal paste to make cpu cool down. Cpu heat directly goes to metal surface so the phone can't cool down itself and sometimes it's so hard to touch it. If you have some hand skill try to apply thermal paste there are enough instructions and discussion in that thread. Also about battery, G3 battery is awful, it gets broken easily phone keeps reboot itself when battery dies, because it has QHD screen battery goes down easily. Make sure some apps don't stuck in background and eat battery. Sometimes when phone in pocket and idle it gets hot because some apps keeps working in background so make phone hot and eats battery.
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ceza1380 said:
People say thermal paste help them to get down heat. The problem is that G3 doesn't have any thermal paste to make cpu cool down. Cpu heat directly goes to metal surface so the phone can't cool down itself and sometimes it's so hard to touch it. If you have some hand skill try to apply thermal paste there are enough instructions and discussion in that thread. Also about battery, G3 battery is awful, it gets broken easily phone keeps reboot itself when battery dies, because it has QHD screen battery goes down easily. Make sure some apps don't stuck in background and eat battery. Sometimes when phone in pocket and idle it gets hot because some apps keeps working in background so make phone hot and eats battery.
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Hi, I did a research about the mod that applying the thermal compound on the CPU die.
Many of people say that is effective to reduce the temperature at least 10 to 20 degrees after they tried that on their G3. Since the thermal paste is not pricey, so I can give it a try. I will try to do anything I can to calm this baby down. And in the future, I will never fall into the LG's phones trap again. (by the way the G5 looks very nice, but it still not my cup of tea.)
cuepudding said:
Hi, I did a research about the mod that applying the thermal compound on the CPU die.
Many of people say that is effective to reduce the temperature at least 10 to 20 degrees after they tried that on their G3. Since the thermal paste is not pricey, so I can give it a try. I will try to do anything I can to calm this baby down. And in the future, I will never fall into the LG's phones trap again. (by the way the G5 looks very nice, but it still not my cup of tea.)
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G3 is the only LG phone I've heard with heat issues.
My old G2 (which is just as fast) never overheated and always remained cool to the touch.
With that said, I just did the thermal pad mod yesterday.
Used some fujipoly 11 W/mK 0.5mm and it worked wonders.
Idle is 35-40C
Normal temps are 45-55C
One day into it and the phone is cool to the touch no matter what I toss at it.
Do the mod bro. 15-20C cooler temps across the board also makes a noticable boost in performance and smoothness.
I really enjoy using the phone like this
D855 CTT mod
1. Thermal paste.
2. CTT Mod : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/wip-2-12-ctt-mod-marshmallow-testers-g3-t3313870.
I had the same problem. I found a youtube video, watched how to break the phone down, and applied the paste. It was important to use a generous (not an insane amount though) bead to ensure contact with the cpu and the frame. The phone temp at idle dropped ~15 to 20 degrees, and it never shuts down from overheating anymore. I can overclock the cpu with a custom kernel now, no heating issues at all.

Screen brightness decreases

Hi all. Recently days my G4 H815 601xxxxx decreases brightness(about 10%) itself while i play games or run many apps. Also i have a problem which when i play high demanding games, cpu reaches about 50-55 degree and it restarts itself. It is my second G4 (first died) and hadn't have these 2 problems. Are these alarm of ILAPO?
Brightness decreases to cool the phone and the CPU throttles to do the same. Keep in mind that the 2 big cores are always throttled to 960Mhz to avoid ILAPO which is not legal ?. Unfortunately the phone is not good at all on handling heat!
pavlosargyris said:
Brightness decreases to cool the phone and the CPU throttles to do the same. Keep in mind that the 2 big cores are always throttled to 960Mhz to avoid ILAPO which is not legal ?. Unfortunately the phone is not good at all on handling heat!
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I dind't know that it decreases brightness to cool phone. Where you know that i reduces Mhz of big cores? If so, why still many g4s dies?
xdaorxan said:
I dind't know that it decreases brightness to cool phone. Where you know that i reduces Mhz of big cores? If so, why still many g4s dies?
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If you download Aida64 you will see ?
I think they do that even on "fixed" G4s to prevent it. Not that it's efficient enough
pavlosargyris said:
If you download Aida64 you will see ?
I think they do that even on "fixed" G4s to prevent it. Not that it's efficient enough
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Thanks! Hope i will not get ilapo
xdaorxan said:
Thanks! Hope i will not get ilapo
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if u can find in the hidden menus thermal mitigation u can shut it off or turn it on which ever it is now u can do the oppisate
i believe turn it on actually unthrottles the device
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Hi all. Recently days my G4 H815 601xxxxx decreases brightness(about 10%) itself while i play games or run many apps. Also i have a problem which when i play high demanding games, cpu reaches about 50-55 degree and it restarts itself. It is my second G4 (first died) and hadn't have these 2 problems. Are these alarm of ILAPO?
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Send it to warranty as soon as is starts to restart, that is all. They will replace the motherboard and you are safe and sound for some time. Best to do it before the warranty time runs out for you.
Moreover, I also suffer from the display brightness decrease, but my problem is not due to heat - it happens even at night with phone completely cooled down. Anyone with the same issue?
kakaovnik said:
Send it to warranty as soon as is starts to restart, that is all. They will replace the motherboard and you are safe and sound for some time. Best to do it before the warranty time runs out for you.
Moreover, I also suffer from the display brightness decrease, but my problem is not due to heat - it happens even at night with phone completely cooled down. Anyone with the same issue?
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My warranty is end. Also i have root

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