This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
6000 points on Quadrant? The max I got was around 3400...
Anyway, I think it is normal to a device to overheat and lose performance when it gets hotter. Same for too cold (under 0ºC). The colder, the better the performance. That's why all eletronics should be kept cool.
I could have excused it for overheating during summer with 35C room temperature, but with less than 20C and after just less than one hour?
How is this acceptable? Seriously, what is wrong with this phone?
I am raging uncontrollably right now. I can't believe I was so stupid to get this turdphone TWICE before realizing it was indeed a massive stinking turd.
And yeah, it's not 6000 points but 3500, when it overheats it gets much less, and I notice it's happening even before the score gets displayed, because usually the planet thingy runs at 60FPS but when it's overheated it runs at around 40.
GOD DAMN.
Oh and by the way, if it overheats during gameplay, it also overheats during web browsing or EVERYTHING really. And EVERY SINGLE XPERIA S IN EXISTENCE has this problem. Yours too.
You better not use it too much, or it might overheat and start running slower than a X10. What, you bought your phone to use it? LOLZ.
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definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
About overheat on my phone, yeah it does sometimes. During summer it can get up to 40C (the ambient, not phone), the phone overheats while using for browsing, but I think it's normal.
It gets hot when playing NFS:MW, the performance drops but I just have to leave there for 30 min and its good again.
The phone generally gets up to 43 C when playing...
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m1st3r1 said:
definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
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If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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I know how to keep the performance as good as it was cold. But the temperature won't drop i meant it's still warm.
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MarkMRL said:
This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. ****ING. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
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Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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um..that's not the case, AT ALL.
The thermal throttling kicked in so that's why the OP seeing lowered performance.
Please read more about hardware before you post these.
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Piyush Rawal said:
Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
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Ooo....Internet smart guy! From India! Wow what a deal!
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
OP, buy another phone then, problem solved, you're welcome. :good:
God help you it you bought a S3, but seriously time of year is not gonna change a overheating issue and 35-40 is the ideal temp for optimal performance
And I know 4 people in IT, and their knowledge is pretty much on par with yours judging by your posts
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
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Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
-PiLoT- said:
Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Which temperature separates heating and overheating, then?
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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It's 45 nm, dual core and 1.5 gHz. ofc it got hot. But not overheating. When the hardware is overheating, it'll turn off, u should know that.. I said again, it's the rom/kernel that asked the procie to lower itself when in some temp. mine? I never have this problem since in cm10. Read my posts again. And surely I benchmarked over and over again (antutu) and the scores are vary, but not very much (I even got Max scored at my fifth try, the phone was hot though, but it was alright)
And if u search about xperia s overheating, there are some talks (even here in xda) bout performance hits, etc.. but it was way back there... I thought ppl already learn how to handle this... well, I thought wrong.
Ang if u thought the phone is hot, try playing with HTC one x...
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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i said remove it as a cahed process then run it again.
also why run a benchmark. its a hypothtical scoring number
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So I was wondering what temps you guys are seeing when your phone overheats.
My phone reboots when it hits 37 C, which seems awful low. Anyone else seeing such low reboot temps?
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So I was wondering what temps you guys are seeing when your phone overheats.
My phone reboots when it hits 37 C, which seems awful low. Anyone else seeing such low reboot temps?
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Mine doesn't reboot that low, the highest I have seen it go was like 43.7 or something
I've never had my phone reboot due to overheating even at 42°C. Running CM6.01
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Hmm, this is getting frustrating. I've begun to reboot at around 37 C. Is there any way to change that number? Anything to reset?
Is that CPU or battery temperature? If battery then the CPU would be much hotter.
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Battery... but it's weird. The battery temperature gets to 37 C, and then reboot. When I very distinctly remember it before going 45+ C without a problem.
And now I'm bootlooping. Seems to start up, and is still too hot, then reboots again. Anyone have this happen to them? Lower temp reboots?
Sounds like you may have permanently damaged your device, if your battery temp were 40+ degree celsius your CPU temp would be a sustained 15+ degrees hotter. Running your device this hot often certainly could damage it over time.
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Try a standard or increasing voltage kernel if possible.
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fivefour said:
Sounds like you may have permanently damaged your device, if your battery temp were 40+ degree celsius your CPU temp would be a sustained 15+ degrees hotter. Running your device this hot often certainly could damage it over time.
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No no, my battery isn't that hot for long amounts of time, just, like when I'm surfing for a long time or something. Trying an undervolted kernel now.
Do you have a backup battery that you can try - see if you get the same results? Batteries do occassionally stop working properly.
My phone would reboot when using GPS in the car if it was on the dashboard or mounted - I checked the temperature when it booted and didn't get stuck in a boot loop and it was around 45c.....
I returned the phone to stock and brought it back to vzw, they gave me a new battery, phone still runs somewhat hot even stock.
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My phone would reboot when using GPS in the car if it was on the dashboard or mounted - I checked the temperature when it booted and didn't get stuck in a boot loop and it was around 45c.....
I returned the phone to stock and brought it back to vzw, they gave me a new battery, phone still runs somewhat hot even stock.
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But mine is rebooting at 37-38 C. Which is awfully low. I'm RUU'd, S-oned, and factory-resetted and STILL it happens. So it's a hardware problem.
Gonna take it into a Verizon store and demand a replacement on the spot x]
I can advisr from personal experience on your symptoms that you have one choice ... Return to verizon for a refurb. This is what happens when you have an early incredible with a faulty hardware radio. It gets to the point where it starts trying to compensate and super heats. You must return.
Every other suggestion would be a mask to an existing well known hardware problem.
I once left my phone in a black bag on a hot summer day. It went up to 50 C with no problems. It didn't reboot or anything.
I have one of the original Incredible's from launch day, it is usually around 43-45. Sometimes it gets warmer than that playing games. Never actually had any problems. The hottest it ever gets is on Z rom's. Those things have gotten it to 50 .
I'm on CM7 W/Slayher's 2.6.37 kernel, and it's at 42 just on the home screen. Mind you this is all on stock speeds. My phone doesn't like to overclock. Regardless of kernel. It can go to 1.113 sometimes, but any more = reboot.
On the HTC Incredible site, there is a FAQ which states the maximum recommended operating temp is ~60C.
I'm relatively sure there is no problem with the battery or the CPU doing up to ~90 for awhile because that's a fairly common temp for CPUs and Batteries to withstand. I'm sure that like most batteries , at >~50C it is less efficient, but I doubt the CPU is presented with any problems in that range.
Phones present a unique set of high-temp problems. Cooling sucks in those little enclosed boxes, and manufacturers definitely don't want your hand or ear burned, and are terrified of having a battery burn up in your hand or pocket, so that is probably why 60 is said to be max. I don't like picking up my phone when it's at all hot (~40C or more) but while experimenting with my own kernels and voltages and overclocking, I've had it reboot somewhere around 60C. Was it the temp, or was it overclocked too far? I have no idea, but I lowered both and stopped taking stupid chances with it.
This thing of rebooting at 37C seems nuts, inappropriate, and most likely a defective part, or one of the many services or apps that perhaps does the wrong thing (accesses verbotten memory, bad ptr, etc..)
A bad example for sure, but at work, many of our HP or Dell Racked servers (DL380's etc), are too hot to touch while running. They have enough fans to power a 747, and it just makes it pretty clear that in some cases, processors and other components can run at amazing temps.
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I was just curious to know if someone else's phone is over heating. Yesterday I was watching a boxing match on youtube with 4G on and it reached to a scary 121°. 4 hours later I was playing the nova demo with the screen at 45% brightness, played for like 20 minutes or so and it reached 112°. Just whanted to figure out if this is normal that personallyI think is not, and also if someone else it's experiencing the same issue. Thanks
Edit: Both of times I was indoorsjust in case someone is wondering.
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Mine can get much hotter than that but it pretty much hovers around the 120 range when I'm browsing the web.
I also get this message when charging and watching a video. I need to exchange it. Just need to find a Best Buy store that has one in stock.
What do you use to check the temp?
mine gets real hot as well.. I think it has to do with charging while using though.
Woow thats amazing. Im guessing that those temperatures can be harmful to the phone right?
I use system info from the market to check my phone status very useful
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mine gets real hot as well.. I think it has to do with charging while using though.
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It could be that and the stock charge pushed a lot of power in to charge quicker... But my input is that my phone hasnt even gotten very hot at all..
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I was just curious to know if someone else's phone is over heating. Yesterday I was watching a boxing match on youtube with 4G on and it reached to a scary 121°. 4 hours later I was playing the nova demo with the screen at 45% brightness, played for like 20 minutes or so and it reached 112°. Just whanted to figure out if this is normal that personallyI think is not, and also if someone else it's experiencing the same issue. Thanks
Edit: Both of times I was indoorsjust in case someone is wondering.
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My phone was just laying in shotgun of my car with the car charger plugged in and the display on, then all of a sudden I picked it up and it was hella hot! 120° read SetCPU and I got shook, ripped the battery out and threw the phone in front of an AC but then I got worried that the extremities could possibly warp the board, so now Im thinking Im going to return my phone! In no way can this be good for the phone, I don't see how it can not get affect it when reaching 120, 130, 140 degrees!!! Im worried that in a week, a month, a year from now something will go terribly wrong and I really don't want to risk it, so I'm real close to returning this phone and just waiting for the Nexus!
I am amazed that a phone getting hot after heavy use is such a surprise to everyone. See any fans? see any ventilation? Here you are using a dual core 1.5 GZ processor, what were you expecting, ice water?
Ahh... Set CPU. So you can't really find the temp until you're rooted?
Hmm
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I am amazed that a phone getting hot after heavy use is such a surprise to everyone. See any fans? see any ventilation? Here you are using a dual core 1.5 GZ processor, what were you expecting, ice water?
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Who mentioned anything about heavy usage and overclocking? CPU is 1.2Ghz stock buddy and I wasn't doing anything on my phone at the time it overheated...I have a Droid Incredible 2, and I run its CPU OC to 2.035Ghz and its never once gone over 105 degrees, so before you go getting all amazed, get your facts straight!
I have noticed this too.
With the phone simply in my pocket, my leg would feel warm. I could grab the phone and the phone would feel quite hot. Not so hot that it would burn my ear, but warm enough that it would feel like there's some kind of problem. Usually, heat = battery getting drained. When I check to see if there's anything running, there's nothing...
Right now, have been listening to Spotify for over 2 hours, and it's cold as ambient temperature. Will try installing some monitoring program and report if I notice more heat issues. I know the Evo3D used to get "burns my ear" hot when using it as GPS while connected to the car charger. My guess was that if the screen is on, and there's power going to it, it'd always get hot. Maybe it wasn't supposed to and that was just my assumption. However, same thing happens to this one; watching netflix, or playing a game, or anything demanding, and if I'm plugged, it will get really hot, really fast. If not connected, it won't get as hot, but "normally" hot nonetheless.
http://an.droid-life.com/2011/09/21/is-your-samsung-epic-4g-touch-getting-too-hot-to-handle/
Feel free to stop by and comment if you're having similar problems.
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I have noticed this too.
With the phone simply in my pocket, my leg would feel warm. I could grab the phone and the phone would feel quite hot. Not so hot that it would burn my ear, but warm enough that it would feel like there's some kind of problem. Usually, heat = battery getting drained. When I check to see if there's anything running, there's nothing...
Right now, have been listening to Spotify for over 2 hours, and it's cold as ambient temperature. Will try installing some monitoring program and report if I notice more heat issues. I know the Evo3D used to get "burns my ear" hot when using it as GPS while connected to the car charger. My guess was that if the screen is on, and there's power going to it, it'd always get hot. Maybe it wasn't supposed to and that was just my assumption. However, same thing happens to this one; watching netflix, or playing a game, or anything demanding, and if I'm plugged, it will get really hot, really fast. If not connected, it won't get as hot, but "normally" hot nonetheless.
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That you know of, did they ever fix the issue on the Evo3D?
Let me put it another way. I don't see any process or feature that will cool down the phone when in moderate to heavy use. I expect it to get hot. I have always thought, how are they going to disperse the heat?
LouieGrandie said:
Let me put it another way. I don't see any process or feature that will cool down the phone when in moderate to heavy use. I expect it to get hot. I have always thought, how are they going to disperse the heat?
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I don't know dude but what I do know is that I have the Incredible 2 overclocked to over 2Ghz!!! and my Xoom at 1.7Ghz and neither one of them has every gotten this hot before!!
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I don't know dude but what I do know is that I have the Incredible 2 overclocked to over 2Ghz!!! and my Xoom at 1.7Ghz and neither one of them has every gotten this hot before!!
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Ill second this srongly, I think than anything over 107 with this technology is NOT friendly at all.
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Mine got hot on day 1 from youtube and general setup but after a full nights charge it has been great for 2 full days, no heating up or anything weird.
But man did it get hot!
Edit: I turned off gps the night this happened. I have been using my phone alot and have not experienced this again.
You need a dose of Penicillin and Cortizone. The burning sensations should clear up. In the mean time, stay away from strange phones and turn off the vibration loop - LOL
Sorry, but I've done quite a bit with my phone (videos, NetFlix, etc...) and it doesn't get warm enough to burn.
An Intel CPU (i7, for example) can run at 200 degrees Fahreneheit. In fact, the roof is about 100 degrees Celsius. To protect the CPU, there are heatsinks, fans, water cooling, etc. Video cards can also go up to 70 degrees celsius before showing artifacts; some can do much better.
We're commenting a heat that is not nearly that much for a phone. IF the SOC gets to 100 degrees celsius, that's one thing; 100 degrees fahrenheit...that is the temperature in many places around here.
These SOC don't need such fans, heatsinks, etc, because they're not supposed to reach temps of 200 degrees. They should be self contained.
On my Evo3D, which I passed on to my father, I could smell like something was burning. It wasn't, but it smelled like if it were, around the battery. Yeah, it still gets hot when in use, and specially if connected.
I believe there's also comments that on all new phones, the first few charges, while the battery adapts, the phone may be hot. Of course it had been over 2 months on my Evo3D and it still gets hot.
The E4gT is doing better today, but I haven't thrown any video/games at it yet; nor has it been in my pocket.
I'd say give it a couple days. I know I've reported my own concern, and I'll be checking it to make sure the "hotness" is within reasonable limits.
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Ahh... Set CPU. So you can't really find the temp until you're rooted?
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you can check it using this add on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809588
Everywhere I looked they said that the OnePlus 3 has the least thermal throttling and best sustained performance of any phone out there. But nobody discussed why exactly it did not throttle while other phones did. Everyone simply said "Oh they must have very good thermal management or something". Then I saw a video comparing the temperatures of the ZTE axon 7 and the OnePlus 3 (google "Zte axon 7 vs OnePlus 3 antutu thermal throttling"), it turns out the reason the OnePlus 3 doesn't throttle isn't some magical thermal dissipation and management, it's solely because they raised the temperature at which the phone would throttle to beyond comfortable zones. In the video with just a few iterations of Antutu CPU test, the OnePlus 3 metal skin's temperature reached a scorching 47 degrees Celcius. Google shows that holding anything metal at 50 degrees Celcius for more than a brief moment can cause tissue damage (1st degree burns). And this phone was just shy of that temperature during Antutu's benchmarks when only the CPU was running, so can you imagine what temperatures it would reach when you're playing a highly graphical game where both CPU and GPU are being taxed at the same time? Why does nobody talk about this?
nothing to worry about IMO
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nothing to worry about IMO
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Thank you for your useless opinion friend.
The only game i play on the one plus it's hearthstone but I don't notice an high temperature during session ... I think a benchmark it's one of the most stressful things you can do with your smartphone...
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The only game i play on the one plus it's hearthstone but I don't notice an high temperature during session ... I think a benchmark it's one of the most stressful things you can do with your smartphone...
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No actually Hearthstone is not a demanding game at all, not even remotely. In fact an iphone 4 could run it without busting a sweat. And many games can actually be more stressful than a benchmark because you would be running both CPU and GPU at the same time and would likely be running the GPU at 100%. Most GPU benchmarks run the GPU at 100% too but without using the CPU at the same time.
A non issue imo
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=CrK3C9VLuTg
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A non issue imo
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=CrK3C9VLuTg
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I can't figure out why the hell that idiot in the video used real racing as a benchmark. Do these people even know what a GPU or CPU is?
Anyway, that video is not reliable, especially since the OnePlus 3 uses a 1080p display and has to push far less pixels than those other phones, that game does not tax the phone's hardware in any way shape or form.
The CPU starts throttling at 75°C like pretty much any other phone out there... This thing just dissipates heat better than any other Android phone out there which is why the chassis heats up a bit more. Don't worry it doesn't get that hot at all
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This thing just dissipates heat better than any other Android phone out there which is why the chassis heats up a bit more. Don't worry it doesn't get that hot at all
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Proof?
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Proof?
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The fact that there's a lot of us out here using the phone, but as far as I've seen zero reports of people getting burnt by hot phones, in. Y experience it stays way cooler to the touch than either of my last two phones (Xperia z2 and Samsung s3).
Attached below is a picture of my Hardware activity while playing Power Rangers Legacy Wars which admittedly is a graphically intense games but I'm worried that the temperature of the GPU and or CPU is getting too high. I want to make sure my Note 4 isn't getting too hot here is the picture:
I need somebody's help. The coolest my Note 4 seems to get is about 53 degrees C and that's when I turn it on after it's been asleep on my desk. It is not a rogue app or anything like that because I have done both Factory resets and I have install custom roms, so everything has been factory reset multiple times. The water damage sticker indicates no water damage whatsoever. I know phones can get hot when gaming, my Note 4 gets to anywhere between 70 to 85 degrees Celsius and I am just wondering if that's normal I reduced my screen resolution to 720P and disabled two cores of the quad core processor and it does not seem to help one bit. Is this temperature normal or do I need to get rid of the phone?
PS when doing normal browsing it seems to hover around 60 to 67 degrees C
And the battery does not seem to go over 37 degrees Celsius
If you're worried about high temps during games I'd recommend turning the max GPU frequency down. It significantly reduced my temps and I didn't notice a significant difference in gameplay.
Thank you for your response. I have done that and it does not seem to make a difference I'm still getting CPU and GPU temperatures in the high 70s to low 80s
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Thank you for your response. I have done that and it does not seem to make a difference I'm still getting CPU and GPU temperatures in the high 70s to low 80s
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Would you mind posting a screenshot as above with the same overlay? How long are you playing before it gets to this point? Have you adjusted throttling temperatures?
Edit: Saw your other post and wanted to add some troubleshooting. When you open up TWRP and do a file transfer or backup how hot does your phone get? Mine would get pretty hot to the touch, but I don't remember it getting above 80 C.....
The temps you showed in the other thread are definitely not "normal" from my experience with day-to-day use. Did you ever look at the task monitor app I linked to?
Sure I can take another screenshot. How do you want it? I did check out that app and the only thing that I saw was that it seems as though my CPU cores were always running pretty high but I didn't see any applications taking up and unusual amount of processing power. The temperature ranges to about 60 as soon as I open a game for the most part and continues to slowly rise from there. Yes that's about the temperature I get everytime I go into TWRP. I don't even have to be doing anything I'm just open TWRP work and that's about the temperature I get
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Sure I can take another screenshot. How do you want it? I did check out that app and the only thing that I saw was that it seems as though my CPU cores were always running pretty high but I didn't see any applications taking up and unusual amount of processing power. The temperature ranges to about 60 as soon as I open a game for the most part and continues to slowly rise from there. Yes that's about the temperature I get everytime I go into TWRP. I don't even have to be doing anything I'm just open TWRP work and that's about the temperature I get
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Sorry, I posted that before I noticed your updated screenshot. I was just curious if limiting the GPU made any difference.
Honestly I'm running out of software suggestions. Do you have some sort of case/screen protector that could be affecting it? How hot us your screen (qualitatively)? I just looked at an old video I made and my phone was 52 C in TWRP, which isn't too far off from yours so it might be fine (as I said my phone screen would get too hot to touch at times during intense games). But if you look at kernel adiutor and see that the CPU rarely drops to the lowest frequency/deep sleep there's probably something wrong (unless your screen is constantly on). You could try a different kernel or governor, or check an app like gsm battery monitor to see if GPS or something us hogging CPU time, but I don't really have any more ideas. (Although I did used to cool off my screen with a wet towel when it got really hot)
Just to confirm: you're running a Verizon note 4 right? (Have to ask)
You've updated the modem to the correct version through Odin?
You're on the proper bootloader?
First of all thank you for your help once again. I don't know how to measure how hot my screen gets I don't have any tools that would allow me to do that I do have a case and screen protector on but it doesn't seem to be any worse than it was before I put them on. Yes I am on the correct bootloader and I do have a Verizon Note 4 running the nseven ROM and I am on the correct modem. I'm willing to do anything at this point. This is the second note 4 I've had with this issue and I just want to be able to use it. I want to be able to play my games and stuff you know. So if there's a literally anything I can do . plus I don't really have money for a replacement
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First of all thank you for your help once again. I don't know how to measure how hot my screen gets I don't have any tools that would allow me to do that I do have a case and screen protector on but it doesn't seem to be any worse than it was before I put them on. Yes I am on the correct bootloader and I do have a Verizon Note 4 running the nseven ROM and I am on the correct modem. I'm willing to do anything at this point. This is the second note 4 I've had with this issue and I just want to be able to use it. I want to be able to play my games and stuff you know. So if there's a literally anything I can do . plus I don't really have money for a replacement
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I found this: https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...bout-cpu-temperatures-according-cpu-z-s6.html
Which shows some pretty high temperatures during heavy and normal loads for a G4 and some other forum discussing how their note 4 would reboot due to overheating. Since you're not experiencing that issue I'm not sure you need to worry too much. Your processor should be throttling itself if it's getting to hot to make sure it doesn't get damaged. I'd try to make sure that you limit your gpu to around 300 and then just make sure your CPU isn't overclocked and you will probably be fine. My note 4 would get so hot that I couldn't touch the screen, but it still ran like a champ and never rebooted on me. The only thing that is concerning is that your CPU clock specs aren't sticking, but you'll need to read around for how to fix that since I've never had an issue.
Okay well that makes me feel a whole lot better thank you. According to GSMArena the processor speed of the Note 4 is 2.7 gigahertz and mine is currently running at 2.4 so while it is a little upsetting that I can't bring it down any further, at least I know again according to GSMArena that my processor is not overclocked. Thank you for everything
Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
Return it as defective and get another.
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Return it as defective and get another.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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I've heard that too on the 7900 but its the first time I heard about it on a mobile device, hence am wondering how gaming performance are faring for others with OP11.
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Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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This is in LA, so around 50-70 F or 10-20C. CPU runs at fairly okay temperature around 30-40C for normal day to day use (texting, redditing...). It's just a stark contrast from my OP8T or S23U since I pretty much don't notice those phones heating up but with OP11 I can consistently feel it gets warm.
My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chamber is used to spread heat. It is not some magic material which makes heat disappear.
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My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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The best solution i can give u is to buy a peltier cooler i.e Oneplus 18W freezing point, Oneplus 11 has a very good passive cooling and with a good peltier you wont have such issues
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thanks for the solution but dont think i do enough serious gaming on the phone to warrant a cooler. Just a bit disappointed and surprised at the overheating and throttling despite oneplus touting it having one of the better cooling systems out there. Since it happened on both OP11 I got my hands on, I'm going to attribute this to more of a software than hardware issue as other phones with same chipsets don't seem to have overheating problems.