I could be wrong, but it looks like Sprint/Samsung have put a diagnostic app back in (similar to carrier IQ). Not sure where it is in the app settings, but you can opt out in the about phone settings. Hopefully in the actual eventual ota they let the user choose on first boot instead.
FB17 ICS version
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I think this is their way of using Carrier IQ and the average user wont even think about what it is or disabling it so they win either way.
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If you're referring to com.android.samsungtest.SlateTest, then no it is not CarrierIQ in any form. Slate is a diagnostics tool that we service centers run that tests the radios and basic functions of the phone.
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I am referring to the consumer facing diagnostics tool that comes activated in the fb17 about phone settings. It appears not to be related to the fact that it is a dev build.
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When you click on about it takes u to this page:
http://ccr.samsung.com/ccrweb/docs/PrivacyPolicy.htm
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When you click on about it takes u to this page:
http://ccr.samsung.com/ccrweb/docs/PrivacyPolicy.htm
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So CCR is the app, saw it in the application menu
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So CCR is the app, saw it in the application menu
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I saw that app too in data usage, using 22MB background...wtf? Root uninstalled.
I've always wondered what the hell the letstrypanning.apk was
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I've always wondered what the hell the letstrypanning.apk was
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That is for panning on homescreen when paving a widget
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I've always wondered what the hell the letstrypanning.apk was
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Lol, it's the tutorial for motion actions, like panning between home screens while holding an icon by tilting the phone.
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I know they announced work with Smith Micro, but I think that is only for data offloading, although Smith Micro does something very similar to Carrier IQ.
It is possible that at some point they may also go back to Carrier IQ as well. I think that would take place once all the lawsuits and questions regarding the EULA etc have been answered.
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So what I'm understanding is that some of you are removing the application that Samsung relies on to report app crashes/errors to fix the glitches in ICS?
...Conducive.
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Yes, I don't like being spied on and don't want sprint knowing the apps I use on my phone and how often I use them. Oh, you use a root app, no warranty for you...or you use a tethering app, lets add 20 dollars to your bill.
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Yes, I don't like being spied on and don't want sprint knowing the apps I use on my phone and how often I use them. Oh, you use a root app, no warranty for you...or you use a tethering app, lets add 20 dollars to your bill.
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Sprint doesn't care if you root. They've put out memos saying that it doesn't void warranty ... the tethering ... well, that I'm sure they'd be interested in. That's money out of their pockets. lol
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You realize that application has nothing to do with Sprint, right? It's for Samsung to collect information about crashes and errors so that they can fix their software. But it's cool, not everyone is a team player.
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Lol read the privacy policy posted, not going to argue with your about it, if you are fine with sprint/Samsung monitoring how you use you're phone, good for you, but a lot of people are not, including me, and this thread is for bringing it to the attention of those people, not for you to complain about people caring.
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Lol read the privacy policy posted, not going to argue with your about it, if you are fine with sprint/Samsung monitoring how you use you're phone, good for you, but a lot of people are not, including me, and this thread is for bringing it to the attention of those people, not for you to complain about people caring.
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Just remember however this is a TEST build. right now Samsung is trying to see where things are going wrong as well as Sprint since they are most likely testing this on their network as well. If it's still there come OTA then it's something to worry about but till that point and time it would be nice to help samsung try and fix their issues.
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Just remember however this is a TEST build. right now Samsung is trying to see where things are going wrong as well as Sprint since they are most likely testing this on their network as well. If it's still there come OTA then it's something to worry about but till that point and time it would be nice to help samsung try and fix their issues.
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I disclaimed that in my op, but just the way it links to a consumer privacy policy leads me to believe it is here to stay.
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Just remember however this is a TEST build. right now Samsung is trying to see where things are going wrong as well as Sprint since they are most likely testing this on their network as well. If it's still there come OTA then it's something to worry about but till that point and time it would be nice to help samsung try and fix their issues.
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I'd have to agree with you. While I am completely against spying of any sort without my input, this is a test build. This isn't a required update, nobody is forcing it down anyones throat. Everyone running it choose to install it. It's great that people are keeping a close eye on the movements of these companies but until there is legitimate cause for concern ie. an official release, nobody should get up in arms about this.
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I'd have to agree with you. While I am completely against spying of any sort without my input, this is a test build. This isn't a required update, nobody is forcing it down anyones throat. Everyone running it choose to install it. It's great that people are keeping a close eye on the movements of these companies but until there is legitimate cause for concern ie. an official release, nobody should get up in arms about this.
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What we are saying is it looks like it is consumer facing, which means it will almost certainly be in the final build.
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I disclaimed that in my op, but just the way it links to a consumer privacy policy leads me to believe it is here to stay.
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eh I'm here or there with that part right now. My reason is this with the builds being released (I'm sure some Sprint employees are using the build with devices in a test center) this could very well be to cover Sprints and samsungs butt if someone does see this app installed and it lets them know the reason for it as well. I do agree with you I don't like this stuff on my phone when it comes to an official release however right now most people (I myself till I went back to a Stock rom) were running an Alpha that does have issues so sending the data to Samsung to help them I don't see a problem with as it could work out well for us in the long run with a much better OTA release.
i care more about freeing up RAM (thanks to the commenter that has killed it with no side effects)
but really does everyone think samsung is using the reports from all of us running leaked builds?? righhhhht and dont think they dont know who should and shouldnt be.
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i care more about freeing up RAM (thanks to the commenter that has killed it with no side effects)
but really does everyone think samsung is using the reports from all of us running leaked builds?? righhhhht and dont think they dont know who should and shouldnt be.
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That would be great for new and experienced users. I know I would appreciate it.
I'm sure it is a delicate situation sometimes on forums, especially with one as large as xda.
Please give it a shot. This forum appears to be about spreading knowledge. As long as credit is displayed at the head of the sticky...
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Was just posted to The Verge
I honestly don't even know what to say about this one.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/13/...entionally-collected-encrypted-sms-is-working
So if when I call sprint, they ask for my number shouldn't they tell me my number. Oh and who's has called sprint about Los or battery drain and they told you exactly where and why it happend or those that posted about battery drain we don't need an app just call in and let them tell you what apps are draining the battery .
My phones not working." What seem to be the problem". I don't know you tell me.
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In all the stories and interviews, has anyone even discussed anything about an opt out option?
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That is part of the complaint; there is no opt out option....
neudof said:
In all the stories and interviews, has anyone even discussed anything about an opt out option?
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I think there's a bit more going on than just helping solve 'network issues'
Maybe more to do with the FBI covering it's ass so they don't get caught.
Ever read "1984"? It's a great book, I love it. Uncle Sam does too, it's full of great ideas...
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That is part of the complaint; there is no opt out option....
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Custom ROM's
Obviously Samsung is running scared if they have an update that removes CIQ.
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I think there's a bit more going on than just helping solve 'network issues'
Maybe more to do with the FBI covering it's ass so they don't get caught.
Ever read "1984"? It's a great book, I love it. Uncle Sam does too, it's full of great ideas...
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I found "The Giver" a little better. But I agree with you. 1984 is a good book.
http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/291537-report-google-s-schmidt-condemns-carrier-iq
Wow... according to PC mag CIQ was discovered last month... lol.
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I found "The Giver" a little better. But I agree with you. 1984 is a good book.
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Not to hijack the thread and make it about books but +1
That is a very good book from what I've read. I need to go back and finish it. Off to the app store
My dad made me read 1984, you can find the movie free online too (for educational reasons) , it should be a required reading for all Americans.
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Not to hijack the thread and make it about books but +1
That is a very good book from what I've read. I need to go back and finish it. Off to the app store
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I read about it on last month's edition of Penthouse.
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"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
I know similar questions have been asked before and information won't be easy to obtain from anyone regarding this but I know so many poeple have the knowledge to answer. I obviously don't want to use a subscription service but here is my dilemma.
Yes I am trying to spy, however I own both devices and pay for the entire bill just granting the phone for use as is to my current girlfriend, I'm not accusing her of cheating however she is hiding something and its all within the texts she deletes, those texts are transmitted to and from the device I allow her to use, just looking for any options I have aside from shelling out hundreds or thousands on something that can be easily accomplished, however if the information is sensitive I don't want it uploaded to the web, just more of a forward type of thing I suppose but definately hidden from her view, she isn't tech savvy, but our evos are both rooted and custom Rom etc. If anyone could help me with this, that would be super. App / software / source / service doesn't matter to me.
cool story bro, get a new girlfriend and leave the spying to the spy's. if you do not trust her, let her go.
popper668 said:
cool story bro, get a new girlfriend and leave the spying to the spy's. if you do not trust her, let her go.
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Yeah man what he said
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You can use app called total SMS control..does everything you ask plus record calls...then sent to ur email...clever app
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Do yourself a favor, follow this guys instructions
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cool story bro, get a new girlfriend and leave the spying to the spy's. if you do not trust her, let her go.
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To everyone that replied except for don. Your replies were 100% worthless, unless you are replying to someone with helpful information you shouldn't reply at all that just makes you look worse people asking dumb questions. And thanks to you don I will check that out. And if anyone else has anything useful but don't want to share it publicly feel free to message by email I look forward to hearing.
if somehow...
you could tap into carrier IQ! Sorry bro...had to! I would also use sms control...neat little tool.
If you have access to the gmail account that is used with the phone you could install Google Voice. I noticed the other day that it saves a copy of my texts even though I had flashed multiple Roms since.
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If you have access to the gmail account that is used with the phone you could install Google Voice. I noticed the other day that it saves a copy of my texts even though I had flashed multiple Roms since.
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+1 and you can just tell her its a better vm app lol.
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Those replies were good.
First, you need to get help with your own problems of control and paranoia and forget about attempting illegal and immoral invasions of privacy.
Second, you should let that girl go. One day you might be healthy enough for an adult relationship, but not today.
smedley76 said:
To everyone that replied except for don. Your replies were 100% worthless, unless you are replying to someone with helpful information you shouldn't reply at all that just makes you look worse people asking dumb questions. And thanks to you don I will check that out. And if anyone else has anything useful but don't want to share it publicly feel free to message by email I look forward to hearing.
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Unreasnbl said:
Those replies were good.
First, you need to get help with your own problems of control and paranoia and forget about attempting illegal and immoral invasions of privacy.
Second, you should let that girl go. One day you might be healthy enough for an adult relationship, but not today.
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ROFLMAOF!!!! You nailed it though. In a very honest, serious way, too.
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If you have access to the gmail account that is used with the phone you could install Google Voice. I noticed the other day that it saves a copy of my texts even though I had flashed multiple Roms since.
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huh?
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Hit the nail on the head. If you know she is cheating get rid of her. Why would you want to put yourself through that BS only to get mad at her for something you already know. Once a cheat always a cheat. What are you going to do anyways after you confirm and confront?
This ocean is too big to worry about one little fish.
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You could find yourself in legal troubles if you go thorough with this
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You could find yourself in legal troubles if you go thorough with this
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Could he? He does own the phones and the contract is in his name. Should be able to do whatever he wants with the phone he's "lent" out, right?
A buddy of mine suspected his wife was cheating and she wouldn't admit to it. He decided to sift through her emails. He found she was, had proof, divorced her and is now happily married to a faithful woman. Just sayin.....had he not done that he would be far worse off. There's definately better ways to do it.....but every relationship and every person is different right?
That's weird, I thought he was asking for help with finding an app. Guess I missed the part where he asked for a bunch of relationship advice....
Hold on a sec, lemme put on my flame suit
Once there are trust issues there will always be trust issues.
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Honestly i agree with everyone who said no, but if you have one of the three main cellphone companies (Sprint, Verizion,AT&T) you can log in online and read the sent messages.
recneps5 said:
Honestly i agree with everyone who said no, but if you have one of the three main cellphone companies (Sprint, Verizion,AT&T) you can log in online and read the sent messages.
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No, you cant. Sprint does not make those available online.
LINK: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/samsung-what-did-we-do-to-make-you-hate-us-xda-developer-tv/
I Guess its time to move to SONY Devices.
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LINK: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/samsung-what-did-we-do-to-make-you-hate-us-xda-developer-tv/
I Guess its time to move to SONY Devices.
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Way to completely misunderstand. Those are Exynos devices. We have Qualcomm devices.
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Way to completely misunderstand. Those are Exynos devices. We have Qualcomm devices.
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This.
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So what? Xda community and those who use cyanogenmod are barely 1% of sammy's market share
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So what? Xda community and those who use cyanogenmod are barely 1% of sammy's market share
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Don't be ignorant now. They are the 99% of XDA AOSP Development.
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Don't be ignorant now. They are the 99% of XDA AOSP Development.
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Haha funny kid. Of sammy's market share i said. Yes iknow all xda goes crazy about cyanogenmod and i also think they used to be great but in my opinion this is just a tactic of theirs to get more donations. That is their new motto.
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Haha funny kid. Of sammy's market share i said. Yes iknow all xda goes crazy about cyanogenmod and i also think they used to be great but in my opinion this is just a tactic of theirs to get more donations. That is their new motto.
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Or maybe you could try and do some reading before you post? No amount of donations will improve this situation. Exynos and the Mali GPU have documentation that rivals that of an IKEA instruction booklet.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Or maybe you could try and do some reading before you post? No amount of donations will improve this situation. Exynos and the Mali GPU have documentation that rivals that of an IKEA instruction booklet.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Oh hi there you back from the cave lol? Whatever idc. At the current level that touchwiz is i find cyanogenmod a holdback cuz it misses many features. Couple of years ago when manufacturers' os sucked then yes cyanogenmod was #1 but things have changed now. Probably cave people are 2 years behind and cannot realize it.
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Oh hi there you back from the cave lol? Whatever idc. At the current level that touchwiz is i find cyanogenmod a holdback cuz it misses many features. Couple of years ago when manufacturers' os sucked then yes cyanogenmod was #1 but things have changed now. Probably cave people are 2 years behind and cannot realize it.
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Sometimes I wish I could just understand why you think you are so funny.
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Who cares, we have s4 chips
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BaconStep said:
This.
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+1
Worry about something, else
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Sometimes I wish I could just understand why you think you are so funny.
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Your problem is your farfetched, outlandish assumption that laz is overly full of himself.
However you saying that he think he is so funny" says a bit about your own insecurity/ but more so immaturity.
Especially in his last post there was nothing funny about it, there were facts and opinions..
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Hey guys, nothing against ANY of you, but this is that point where everyone should just stop posting lest it get out of hand and we get more locked threads and banned/suspended members.
No one ever leaves these things happy, so just leave it now, please.
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It may not affect us now but I'm sure in the future all of samsung's devices will contain their exynos chips.
I'm curious if it would affect the next nexus, seeing that is supposed to be a developer phone I don't think it would but I'm guessing Samsung is making the next one
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Oh hi there you back from the cave lol? Whatever idc. At the current level that touchwiz is i find cyanogenmod a holdback cuz it misses many features. Couple of years ago when manufacturers' os sucked then yes cyanogenmod was #1 but things have changed now. Probably cave people are 2 years behind and cannot realize it.
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Your problem is your farfetched, outlandish assumption that laz is overly full of himself.
However you saying that he think he is so funny" says a bit about your own insecurity/ but more so immaturity.
Especially in his last post there was nothing funny about it, there were facts and opinions..
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Yes the above post is overflowing with factual statements. You probably think Codeworkx is soliciting donations and this is all a ploy right? There is no helping these devices save Samsung stepping up. No amount of money wikl magically document Exynos and the Mali GPU.
And my bad, I forgot that calling someone a caveman isn't an immature attempt to be funny.. but then again it's hard for me to argue with all of the facts about soliciting donations!
I'll take Doc's advice and let you two have your little conspiracy theory.
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Yes the above post is overflowing with factual statements. You probably think Codeworkx is soliciting donations and this is all a ploy right? There is no helping these devices save Samsung stepping up. No amount of money wikl magically document Exynos and the Mali GPU.
And my bad, I forgot that calling someone a caveman isn't an immature attempt to be funny.. but then again it's hard for me to argue with all of the facts about soliciting donations!
I'll take Doc's advice and let you two have your little conspiracy theory.
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Dude you should learn to accept different opinions otherwise life gets boring. There is no need u to become cyankgenmod's lawyer because they do not need one. The facts regard my first post and you like it or not that is the truth. Sammy sold 20 million units of this device. Go to the international forum of the s3 and lets say you find 2000 users on that forum. Now do the math, how many percent of the overall share are these users? And that is what i am telling you even if theh stop supporting the galaxy still sammy does not get hurt at all. I said cyanogenmod was great two years ago when the android os was not so developed but now they lack ots of features. And i can give you many examples of what features they lack. Camera?svoice?smart stay? Etc etc. What are your arguments other than attacking me and not the points i make? I do not use most of those features sammy included this time but still that can make somebody think well maybe this cyanogenmod is getting lil bit behind. That is not an attack to cyanogenmod cuz i currently am using codename rom and it is great but for most part of those 20million gs3 owners cyanogenmod is not seen as u see it=god.
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Man. I really hope cyanogen or his team don't come and read this thread.. They've put in a hell of a lot of work for this device, they deserve nothing but thanks, we can't forget all of the great work that has stemmed from their work either... Smh
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I can agree with the statements regarding "missing features" when comparing CM to TW. There are some things that TW has that are very nice, and become features you start to depend on as part of a great user experience.
However, CM10 has allowed me to run Jelly Bean as a reliable DD and use Google Now which completely changes the game for me. Yes, TW will update soon but the point is Cm did it already. That's just a small piece of the picture - CM has provided us with support for our phones for YEARS, and are a HUGE driving force in the Android community.
I think it would be wise for CM to start looking at adding more unique features to their builds, things TW doesn't have. But can they compete with Samsung on the highest level? Maybe.. maybe not. Samsung has really stepped it up with TW, and I applaud them for that. However I am a big fan of Android and this whole Tizen move that Samsung is doing really irritates me. Samsung is just like any other conglomerate, they want to hold all the cards when everything is said and done. Which means they have to eliminate Android to build their OWN ecosystem, and don't think they aren't. Samsung has their own movies to sell. They don't want you buying them from the Play Store.
I'm not too fond of Samsung's long term goals. They do make some of the best phones in the world, no doubt about that.. but I am an Android fan, a Google fan, first.
Which is why I see myself back on a Nexus at some point in the future.. probably whatever the best Nexus is after I get sick of the Note 2 (hey, I DID say they make some great phones..)
But losing CM support would definitely suck.. however I can't say I blame them
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I can agree with the statements regarding "missing features" when comparing CM to TW. There are some things that TW has that are very nice, and become features you start to depend on as part of a great user experience.
However, CM10 has allowed me to run Jelly Bean as a reliable DD and use Google Now which completely changes the game for me. Yes, TW will update soon but the point is Cm did it already. That's just a small piece of the picture - CM has provided us with support for our phones for YEARS, and are a HUGE driving force in the Android community.
I think it would be wise for CM to start looking at adding more unique features to their builds, things TW doesn't have. But can they compete with Samsung on the highest level? Maybe.. maybe not. Samsung has really stepped it up with TW, and I applaud them for that. However I am a big fan of Android and this whole Tizen move that Samsung is doing really irritates me. Samsung is just like any other conglomerate, they want to hold all the cards when everything is said and done. Which means they have to eliminate Android to build their OWN ecosystem, and don't think they aren't. Samsung has their own movies to sell. They don't want you buying them from the Play Store.
I'm not too fond of Samsung's long term goals. They do make some of the best phones in the world, no doubt about that.. but I am an Android fan, a Google fan, first.
Which is why I see myself back on a Nexus at some point in the future.. probably whatever the best Nexus is after I get sick of the Note 2 (hey, I DID say they make some great phones..)
But losing CM support would definitely suck.. however I can't say I blame them
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Very nicely put. I definitely agree
I just followed link and found this going on in another Rom development. The fifth post is the one you want to check out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33673632
I'm not saying anything, just posting what i found.
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Oh yea lol I haven't flashed anything that hasn't been deemed official for fear of messing up my device for this same reason. I suggest you all do the same or be prepared for the worst.
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So, he is JALstudios. Dude should be banned.
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So, he is JALstudios. Dude should be banned.
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Agreed, I always thought his posts were so similar but avoided passing judgment without knowing, but that screenshot proves it. It wouldn't be so bad if he would just own up to it instead of lying.
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yppans said:
Agreed, I always thought his posts were so similar but avoided passing judgment without knowing, but that screenshot proves it. It wouldn't be so bad if he would just own up to it instead of lying.
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No one here wants him to quit developing.. But we want him test his roms himself and only build them if he owns the device.. And I'm sure the Devs here would appreciate it if he wouldn't pull things out of their roms and use it without permission
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No one here wants him to quit developing.. But we want him test his roms himself and only build them if he owns the device.. And I'm sure the Devs here would appreciate it if he wouldn't pull things out of their roms and use it without permission
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Speak for yourself. I'd love it if our dev section didn't have any garbage that bricks peoples phones. This guy's been on a roll for a while. Honestly I'd love it if he'd stop dev'ing it'd save people a lot of time.
VoiD_Dweller said:
Speak for yourself. I'd love it if our dev section didn't have any garbage that bricks peoples phones. This guy's been on a roll for a while. Honestly I'd love it if he'd stop dev'ing it'd save people a lot of time.
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+ a googleplex, this guy wants recognition without putting in work or recognizing anybody else's. He needs to stop pestering us and go get some psychological help.
So anyone know what happened to his "illusuon" ROM post? I was waiting for a mod but went to bed and when I woke up it was gone. I'm guessing he deleted it to avoid the ban hammer that was coming.
I was looking for it too. I think it should have been up so everybody can see it. It was a.nicr entertainmemt for a chance lol Lets just hope that he doesnt come back with another name.
Read it for more details.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/galaxy-s4-galaxy-s3-android-4-3-release-date/
Whatever happened to 4.2.x lol.
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TheLastSidekick said:
Read it for more details.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/galaxy-s4-galaxy-s3-android-4-3-release-date/
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Da Kine said:
Whatever happened to 4.2.x lol.
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Have you guys seen this? https://plus.google.com/113517319477420052449/posts/5ggu7naWtaW
Aerowinder said:
Have you guys seen this? https://plus.google.com/113517319477420052449/posts/5ggu7naWtaW
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Sounds like a problem for the S4 not sure if it will implicate us here on the S3. And yeah, the firmware version is skipping from 4.1.2 to 4.3 and leaving the 4.2.x branch out completely which I think was a genius move. At least we won't be too far behind when Kitkat is released.
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TheLastSidekick said:
Sounds like a problem for the S4 not sure if it will implicate us here on the S3. And yeah, the firmware version is skipping from 4.1.2 to 4.3 and leaving the 4.2.x branch out completely which I think was a genius move. At least we won't be too far behind when Kitkat is released.
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It is a problem on the S4. But it's in the bootloader, just firmware updates.... well update. Just something to watch out for, I guess.
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It is a problem on the S4. But it's in the bootloader, just firmware updates.... well update. Just something to watch out for, I guess.
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Yeah. The weird thing about that bootloader update though is I thought the S4 was meant to be an open device hence the fact there's a Google edition. That's a bit weird. If they keep this up we may see an influx of users continue onward to HTC and Sony which as of late have been working with the community.
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Chainfire warned us about all this two years ago. And I'm sure it'll affect us too.
4.3 will have selinux enabled for us as well. Plus we have had a pretty good view of the fact that Sammys built-in warranty killers have been evolving with each upgrade. We will just have to be careful when updating is all. Dont do the full update. Hopefully most of the restrictions will be in the bootloader...wishful thinking, I know! But not allowing us to downgrade once we've updated??? That's just wrong! What if 4.3 sucks?! As that article pointed out, their reason for updating the S3 in the first place is likely just to sell more Gears.
One things for sure, it ought to be interesting!
I hate when developer friendly companies turn out to be not so friendly.
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I think we can call it confirmed as it every source site i read says about the same thing.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-3-coming-to-samsung-galaxy-s3-and-s4-next-month-263690/
The worst problem we have to face is the fact Samsung is a successful entity in the mobile industry. Will other open-source Android OEM's follow suit in an attempt to stay as close to Samsung as possible and as a result, start closing their sources, and locking down the bootloader?
My hope is that other companies do just the opposite. A smaller company could gain more traction and do it faster if they become known as developer friendly. (As long as the devices are competitive as well of course). Then they'd have people from forums such as these begin to take notice. And how many of us have had friends and family ask for our advice or recommendations? It seems to me that'd be a good start.
Another point against companies such as Samsung doing things like locking us down that I rarely see discussed, is how much free support is given for their products! Turn on the dev community and they lose a lot of that benefit as well! I know there were a lot of people who stopped buying HTC because they made it so difficult to do anything! I know I was one!
I know we are a very small percentage of their overall consumer base, but I do think we still have enough influence that we ought not be ignored! It seems they may disagree though.....Or maybe I'm just wrong!
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DocHoliday77 said:
My hope is that other companies do just the opposite. A smaller company could gain more traction and do it faster if they become known as developer friendly.
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Like Oppo.
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Like Oppo.
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Sony also appears to have taken notice lately.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Chainfire warned us about all this two years ago. And I'm sure it'll affect us too.
4.3 will have selinux enabled for us as well. Plus we have had a pretty good view of the fact that Sammys built-in warranty killers have been evolving with each upgrade. We will just have to be careful when updating is all. Dont do the full update. Hopefully most of the restrictions will be in the bootloader...wishful thinking, I know! But not allowing us to downgrade once we've updated??? That's just wrong! What if 4.3 sucks?! As that article pointed out, their reason for updating the S3 in the first place is likely just to sell more Gears.
One things for sure, it ought to be interesting!
I hate when developer friendly companies turn out to be not so friendly.
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This is why I am usually reluctant to update and try to wait a bit before I do. I think that even before they get an upgrade off the ground there may be workarounds and hacks for all of their insipid douchebaggery. Regardless, you have got to love Chainfire for all his work in making their stupid little efforts come to nought.
Make something hackproof, make better hackers. I'd rather they not lock the bootloaders on the new update, otherwise I may have to just stick with AOSP for new versions. In that case, might as well upgrade my phone to something not so Samsung.
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