More Carrier IQ information (these guys need to be out of a job seriously) - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Was just posted to The Verge
I honestly don't even know what to say about this one.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/13/...entionally-collected-encrypted-sms-is-working

So if when I call sprint, they ask for my number shouldn't they tell me my number. Oh and who's has called sprint about Los or battery drain and they told you exactly where and why it happend or those that posted about battery drain we don't need an app just call in and let them tell you what apps are draining the battery .
My phones not working." What seem to be the problem". I don't know you tell me.
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In all the stories and interviews, has anyone even discussed anything about an opt out option?
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That is part of the complaint; there is no opt out option....
neudof said:
In all the stories and interviews, has anyone even discussed anything about an opt out option?
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I think there's a bit more going on than just helping solve 'network issues'
Maybe more to do with the FBI covering it's ass so they don't get caught.
Ever read "1984"? It's a great book, I love it. Uncle Sam does too, it's full of great ideas...

jake21 said:
That is part of the complaint; there is no opt out option....
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Custom ROM's

Obviously Samsung is running scared if they have an update that removes CIQ.

KCRic said:
I think there's a bit more going on than just helping solve 'network issues'
Maybe more to do with the FBI covering it's ass so they don't get caught.
Ever read "1984"? It's a great book, I love it. Uncle Sam does too, it's full of great ideas...
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I found "The Giver" a little better. But I agree with you. 1984 is a good book.

http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/291537-report-google-s-schmidt-condemns-carrier-iq
Wow... according to PC mag CIQ was discovered last month... lol.

Shoulon said:
I found "The Giver" a little better. But I agree with you. 1984 is a good book.
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Not to hijack the thread and make it about books but +1
That is a very good book from what I've read. I need to go back and finish it. Off to the app store

My dad made me read 1984, you can find the movie free online too (for educational reasons) , it should be a required reading for all Americans.

KCRic said:
Not to hijack the thread and make it about books but +1
That is a very good book from what I've read. I need to go back and finish it. Off to the app store
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I read about it on last month's edition of Penthouse.
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Privacy screen

Sorry if this is a re-post, search is acting funny, anyone have any of the privacy screens? Which ones allow the 4 buttons to work properly? I need to keep my gf from looking over my shoulder when I'm texting.
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lol at keeping it from your girlfriend. but i haven't heard much of any talk about privacy screens.
i'm interested in trying the clarivue one tho.
http://www.clarivue.com/htc-evo-4g-privacy-screen-protector.html
I read about one on amazon thats too thick for buttons to work, the screens so big people can probably see it from the other side of the room
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if you gotta hide texts from your GF, she wont be your GF for long!!
wase4711 said:
if you gotta hide texts from your GF, she wont be your GF for long!!
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wase4711 said:
if you gotta hide texts from your GF, she wont be your GF for long!!
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Wow, bunch of dr phils, and y'all don't even know me, 3 years deep and I haven't done anything to violate her trust, I just don't like anyone in my business. But y'all are the xda relationship team, so I guess if I don't want her looking at what I text I'm obviously wrong. Y'all must be girls too.
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chandlerw88 said:
Wow, bunch of dr phils, and y'all don't even know me, 3 years deep and I haven't done anything to violate her trust, I just don't like anyone in my business. But y'all are the xda relationship team, so I guess if I don't want her looking at what I text I'm obviously wrong. Y'all must be girls too.
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someone must have struck a nerve here you are super defensive !!
Sporkman said:
someone must have struck a nerve here you are super defensive !!
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Haha no nerves of steel, just didn't like how they turned a joke within a legitimate question into something completely off topic, I don't need girl advice, just privacy screen advice. Read the title of the post.
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chandlerw88 said:
Haha no nerves of steel, just didn't like how they turned a joke within a legitimate question into something completely off topic, I don't need girl advice, just privacy screen advice. Read the title of the post.
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If you want replies to focus on the subject at hand, then don't invite unwanted commentary by including unnecessary details or "jokes". As for your question, I've never tested any privacy screens myself, but you can check out 3M's version at shop3m.com/98044049512.html. Also, you can always trim the privacy screen so that it leaves the capacitative buttons uncovered.
Wow, I really didn't see in the rules where it said no jokes, sorry for having a sense of humor, but alreast you gave an on topic answer, but ill be sure in the future to alreast let people know in the title that my post may contain jokes.
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[Q] spy apps/software??

I know similar questions have been asked before and information won't be easy to obtain from anyone regarding this but I know so many poeple have the knowledge to answer. I obviously don't want to use a subscription service but here is my dilemma.
Yes I am trying to spy, however I own both devices and pay for the entire bill just granting the phone for use as is to my current girlfriend, I'm not accusing her of cheating however she is hiding something and its all within the texts she deletes, those texts are transmitted to and from the device I allow her to use, just looking for any options I have aside from shelling out hundreds or thousands on something that can be easily accomplished, however if the information is sensitive I don't want it uploaded to the web, just more of a forward type of thing I suppose but definately hidden from her view, she isn't tech savvy, but our evos are both rooted and custom Rom etc. If anyone could help me with this, that would be super. App / software / source / service doesn't matter to me.
cool story bro, get a new girlfriend and leave the spying to the spy's. if you do not trust her, let her go.
popper668 said:
cool story bro, get a new girlfriend and leave the spying to the spy's. if you do not trust her, let her go.
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Yeah man what he said
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You can use app called total SMS control..does everything you ask plus record calls...then sent to ur email...clever app
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Do yourself a favor, follow this guys instructions
popper668 said:
cool story bro, get a new girlfriend and leave the spying to the spy's. if you do not trust her, let her go.
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To everyone that replied except for don. Your replies were 100% worthless, unless you are replying to someone with helpful information you shouldn't reply at all that just makes you look worse people asking dumb questions. And thanks to you don I will check that out. And if anyone else has anything useful but don't want to share it publicly feel free to message by email I look forward to hearing.
if somehow...
you could tap into carrier IQ! Sorry bro...had to! I would also use sms control...neat little tool.
If you have access to the gmail account that is used with the phone you could install Google Voice. I noticed the other day that it saves a copy of my texts even though I had flashed multiple Roms since.
Nick N said:
If you have access to the gmail account that is used with the phone you could install Google Voice. I noticed the other day that it saves a copy of my texts even though I had flashed multiple Roms since.
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+1 and you can just tell her its a better vm app lol.
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Those replies were good.
First, you need to get help with your own problems of control and paranoia and forget about attempting illegal and immoral invasions of privacy.
Second, you should let that girl go. One day you might be healthy enough for an adult relationship, but not today.
smedley76 said:
To everyone that replied except for don. Your replies were 100% worthless, unless you are replying to someone with helpful information you shouldn't reply at all that just makes you look worse people asking dumb questions. And thanks to you don I will check that out. And if anyone else has anything useful but don't want to share it publicly feel free to message by email I look forward to hearing.
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Unreasnbl said:
Those replies were good.
First, you need to get help with your own problems of control and paranoia and forget about attempting illegal and immoral invasions of privacy.
Second, you should let that girl go. One day you might be healthy enough for an adult relationship, but not today.
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ROFLMAOF!!!! You nailed it though. In a very honest, serious way, too.
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Nick N said:
If you have access to the gmail account that is used with the phone you could install Google Voice. I noticed the other day that it saves a copy of my texts even though I had flashed multiple Roms since.
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huh?
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Hit the nail on the head. If you know she is cheating get rid of her. Why would you want to put yourself through that BS only to get mad at her for something you already know. Once a cheat always a cheat. What are you going to do anyways after you confirm and confront?
This ocean is too big to worry about one little fish.
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You could find yourself in legal troubles if you go thorough with this
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nlghtcrawler said:
You could find yourself in legal troubles if you go thorough with this
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Could he? He does own the phones and the contract is in his name. Should be able to do whatever he wants with the phone he's "lent" out, right?
A buddy of mine suspected his wife was cheating and she wouldn't admit to it. He decided to sift through her emails. He found she was, had proof, divorced her and is now happily married to a faithful woman. Just sayin.....had he not done that he would be far worse off. There's definately better ways to do it.....but every relationship and every person is different right?
That's weird, I thought he was asking for help with finding an app. Guess I missed the part where he asked for a bunch of relationship advice....
Hold on a sec, lemme put on my flame suit
Once there are trust issues there will always be trust issues.
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Honestly i agree with everyone who said no, but if you have one of the three main cellphone companies (Sprint, Verizion,AT&T) you can log in online and read the sent messages.
recneps5 said:
Honestly i agree with everyone who said no, but if you have one of the three main cellphone companies (Sprint, Verizion,AT&T) you can log in online and read the sent messages.
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No, you cant. Sprint does not make those available online.

who is Nirose? Update he's real!!!

When I check most plps public profile. Most all have Nirose as a recent viewer.
Who is he? Admin/Mod?
Indrid Cole said:
When I check most plps about me page. Most all have Nirose as a recent viewer.
Who is he? Admin/Mod?
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LOL, that is so wierd you said that Indrid. As I was just wondering the same thing today. I was checking out a few peoples info and I noticed the same thing. who is this nirose guy? So I looked him up and he has zero posts. Nor is he listed as a moderator. I do remember though that he was the first person who visited my page. I wonder if its like a tom from myspace thing. Either way kinda creepy.
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No Myspace here but that Tom thing is strange.
Nirose I dare you to make just one post..
No I triple dog dare ya.
Indrid Cole said:
No Myspace here but that Tom thing is strange.
Nirose I dare you to make just one post..
No I triple dog dare ya.
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LOL! He won't do it. He likes to stay mysterious. Check out my page without even introducing yourself, ill show him. Im going to pm him and ask if he wants to flash the brand new ics 4.0.3 ROM that just came out. Then give him the link to the internatoinal version.
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Gotta be a bot..
Rofl that's brutal!
jasone4gt said:
LOL! He won't do it. He likes to stay mysterious. Check out my page without even introducing yourself, ill show him. Im going to pm him and ask if he wants to flash the brand new ics 4.0.3 ROM that just came out. Then give him the link to the internatoinal version.
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Not on my Profile but he was on my fiance's profile. Most likely a bot though
Indrid Cole said:
When I check most plps public profile. Most all have Nirose as a recent viewer.
Who is he? Admin/Mod?
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Remarqued the same thing.
And the most curious is not that he had visited a lot of profiles (he does what he wants OR more likely he is a bot), but that without any post (so no reason a priori to check his profile) his profile has more than 11 000 visites
(Yep I'm adding somes with this link, and somes of us are curious, but this number seems very hight though)
Probably an Apple developer looking for ideas to steal.
He (she?) says he's a tech blogger. Maybe he just lurks around for good stories?
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It doesn't explain why (s)he has so much visits!
Sine. said:
It doesn't explain why (s)he has so much visits!
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My guess would be everyone who sees he visited their page visits his wonder who the eff it is :shrugs:
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I laughed when I saw this thread come back to life.
Who the fuk in Nirose??
Think about it, guys...
He(or she)'s got to be either a Mod or a troll/flamer that uses "nirose" as a throwaway account so he can check you out without you being able to link his curiosity to any "regular" user. So, it could be anyone, really: the fact that he has zero posts only means that he does all of his/her "real postings" under the true account.
(At least, that's my interpretation of the whole thing.)
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I'm Nirose
LOL you guys,
i've not been active until just now since the board is all open for guests. i love the forums and have always been here just not logged in.
The profile thing was just a test bot wandering around profiles a long time ago. No spam and harm intended. it isn't active anymore.
Lots of PM's received of which few from mods as well.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused. lOl
Regards
Holy crap...He's real!!!
Nirose said:
LOL you guys,
i've not been active until just now since the board is all open for guests. i love the forums and have always been here just not logged in.
The profile thing was just a test bot wandering around profiles a long time ago. No spam and harm intended. it isn't active anymore.
Lots of PM's received of which few from mods as well.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused. lOl
Regards
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No inconvenience bro. Thanks for poppin in. Man I would love to see those PM's. Lol. Hopefully not too bad..lol.
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cmdauria said:
Holy crap...He's real!!!
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When I saw this post,I couldn't see the post above yours. So I just thought you were messin around. Just came by to see if any changes. On the XDA app and then I saw Nirose had posted above ya.. I was like Whaaaaaaaaaat. I had to do a double take..lol..
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Oh my god! We met Nirose! Now I can sleep again!
Wow, way to revive a old thread.

ICS Carrier IQ Substitute

I could be wrong, but it looks like Sprint/Samsung have put a diagnostic app back in (similar to carrier IQ). Not sure where it is in the app settings, but you can opt out in the about phone settings. Hopefully in the actual eventual ota they let the user choose on first boot instead.
FB17 ICS version
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I think this is their way of using Carrier IQ and the average user wont even think about what it is or disabling it so they win either way.
newalker91 said:
If you're referring to com.android.samsungtest.SlateTest, then no it is not CarrierIQ in any form. Slate is a diagnostics tool that we service centers run that tests the radios and basic functions of the phone.
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I am referring to the consumer facing diagnostics tool that comes activated in the fb17 about phone settings. It appears not to be related to the fact that it is a dev build.
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When you click on about it takes u to this page:
http://ccr.samsung.com/ccrweb/docs/PrivacyPolicy.htm
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carlangas20 said:
When you click on about it takes u to this page:
http://ccr.samsung.com/ccrweb/docs/PrivacyPolicy.htm
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So CCR is the app, saw it in the application menu
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kingsway8605 said:
So CCR is the app, saw it in the application menu
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I saw that app too in data usage, using 22MB background...wtf? Root uninstalled.
I've always wondered what the hell the letstrypanning.apk was
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I've always wondered what the hell the letstrypanning.apk was
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That is for panning on homescreen when paving a widget
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oscarthegrouch said:
I've always wondered what the hell the letstrypanning.apk was
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Lol, it's the tutorial for motion actions, like panning between home screens while holding an icon by tilting the phone.
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I know they announced work with Smith Micro, but I think that is only for data offloading, although Smith Micro does something very similar to Carrier IQ.
It is possible that at some point they may also go back to Carrier IQ as well. I think that would take place once all the lawsuits and questions regarding the EULA etc have been answered.
newalker91 said:
So what I'm understanding is that some of you are removing the application that Samsung relies on to report app crashes/errors to fix the glitches in ICS?
...Conducive.
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Yes, I don't like being spied on and don't want sprint knowing the apps I use on my phone and how often I use them. Oh, you use a root app, no warranty for you...or you use a tethering app, lets add 20 dollars to your bill.
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kingsway8605 said:
Yes, I don't like being spied on and don't want sprint knowing the apps I use on my phone and how often I use them. Oh, you use a root app, no warranty for you...or you use a tethering app, lets add 20 dollars to your bill.
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Sprint doesn't care if you root. They've put out memos saying that it doesn't void warranty ... the tethering ... well, that I'm sure they'd be interested in. That's money out of their pockets. lol
newalker91 said:
You realize that application has nothing to do with Sprint, right? It's for Samsung to collect information about crashes and errors so that they can fix their software. But it's cool, not everyone is a team player.
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Lol read the privacy policy posted, not going to argue with your about it, if you are fine with sprint/Samsung monitoring how you use you're phone, good for you, but a lot of people are not, including me, and this thread is for bringing it to the attention of those people, not for you to complain about people caring.
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kingsway8605 said:
Lol read the privacy policy posted, not going to argue with your about it, if you are fine with sprint/Samsung monitoring how you use you're phone, good for you, but a lot of people are not, including me, and this thread is for bringing it to the attention of those people, not for you to complain about people caring.
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Just remember however this is a TEST build. right now Samsung is trying to see where things are going wrong as well as Sprint since they are most likely testing this on their network as well. If it's still there come OTA then it's something to worry about but till that point and time it would be nice to help samsung try and fix their issues.
cidica said:
Just remember however this is a TEST build. right now Samsung is trying to see where things are going wrong as well as Sprint since they are most likely testing this on their network as well. If it's still there come OTA then it's something to worry about but till that point and time it would be nice to help samsung try and fix their issues.
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I disclaimed that in my op, but just the way it links to a consumer privacy policy leads me to believe it is here to stay.
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cidica said:
Just remember however this is a TEST build. right now Samsung is trying to see where things are going wrong as well as Sprint since they are most likely testing this on their network as well. If it's still there come OTA then it's something to worry about but till that point and time it would be nice to help samsung try and fix their issues.
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I'd have to agree with you. While I am completely against spying of any sort without my input, this is a test build. This isn't a required update, nobody is forcing it down anyones throat. Everyone running it choose to install it. It's great that people are keeping a close eye on the movements of these companies but until there is legitimate cause for concern ie. an official release, nobody should get up in arms about this.
KCRic said:
I'd have to agree with you. While I am completely against spying of any sort without my input, this is a test build. This isn't a required update, nobody is forcing it down anyones throat. Everyone running it choose to install it. It's great that people are keeping a close eye on the movements of these companies but until there is legitimate cause for concern ie. an official release, nobody should get up in arms about this.
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What we are saying is it looks like it is consumer facing, which means it will almost certainly be in the final build.
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kingsway8605 said:
I disclaimed that in my op, but just the way it links to a consumer privacy policy leads me to believe it is here to stay.
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eh I'm here or there with that part right now. My reason is this with the builds being released (I'm sure some Sprint employees are using the build with devices in a test center) this could very well be to cover Sprints and samsungs butt if someone does see this app installed and it lets them know the reason for it as well. I do agree with you I don't like this stuff on my phone when it comes to an official release however right now most people (I myself till I went back to a Stock rom) were running an Alpha that does have issues so sending the data to Samsung to help them I don't see a problem with as it could work out well for us in the long run with a much better OTA release.
i care more about freeing up RAM (thanks to the commenter that has killed it with no side effects)
but really does everyone think samsung is using the reports from all of us running leaked builds?? righhhhht and dont think they dont know who should and shouldnt be.
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i care more about freeing up RAM (thanks to the commenter that has killed it with no side effects)
but really does everyone think samsung is using the reports from all of us running leaked builds?? righhhhht and dont think they dont know who should and shouldnt be.
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That would be great for new and experienced users. I know I would appreciate it.
I'm sure it is a delicate situation sometimes on forums, especially with one as large as xda.
Please give it a shot. This forum appears to be about spreading knowledge. As long as credit is displayed at the head of the sticky...

Rooting scams

Ok guys, i just wanted everyone to know there are scams going around the internet offering "rooting software" STAY AWAY!! Im hearing about people bricking their phones with this. Just a heads up.
BAleR said:
Ok guys, i just wanted everyone to know there are scams going around the internet offering "rooting software" STAY AWAY!! Im hearing about people bricking their phones with this. Just a heads up.
http://samsunghelp.weebly.com/
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Of course someone is selling root... I knew it was coming. Is there anything we can do to have pay for root sites taken down?
Are you serious!? I can't believe that. I hope no one falls for that.Thanks for the heads up though.
BAleR said:
Ok guys, i just wanted everyone to know there are scams going around the internet offering "rooting software" STAY AWAY!! Im hearing about people bricking their phones with this. Just a heads up.
http://samsunghelp.weebly.com/
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I don't know if it helps but I reported the web site to google as a possible fake/scamming site.
Plus the FB link isn't a face book link. just a dead web page. www h com
I'm not going to put in the link but that's what you get when you click on the "like us on FB banner"
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I don't know if it helps but I reported the web site to google as a possible fake/scamming site.
Plus the FB link isn't a face book link. just a dead web page. www h com
I'm not going to put in the link but that's what you get when you click on the "like us on FB banner"
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I'll do the same. I also noticed the dead fb link.
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When in doubt " qbking77".
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There are phone flashing shops that charge for root and custom ROM flashing, in my opinion they are overpriced scams that target the inexperienced and those that are afraid of bricking or just do not have the time to do it themselves.
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Mattix724 said:
There are phone flashing shops that charge for root and custom ROM flashing, in my opinion they are overpriced scams that target the inexperienced and those that are afraid of bricking or just do not have the time to do it themselves.
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If they do it for you, I understand charging for the service... But to sell what I am positive is software that they did not develop, was built to be free, nor do they have any rights to sell, is wrong and something should be done. This site in question is an obvious scam to get money from stupid/uninformed people.
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Well. I dunno what we can do about this but tell as many people as possible. The sad thing is, they offer such a "low" price that people cant resist. I dont even think its real software at all.
Exactly. Go look at their disclaimer. It's bull****!
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For start, you could remove the link so less people will click on it. Xda is well positioned on google and linking sth to da means higher ranking also
Nothing can be done for real. Same as tons of "we'll scan and clean your PC" sites.
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For start, you could remove the link so less people will click on it. Xda is well positioned on google and linking sth to da means higher ranking also
Nothing can be done for real. Same as tons of "we'll scan and clean your PC" sites.
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Ya but then wont they see my "scam message" also?
That's total bull crap it even says in the terms of use that it might not work
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"125 ways to make money" = find 125 suckers to pay us $4.99 for a prerooted tar file to flash in odin, and/or a oneclick. All the files came from here or sxtp forums. just the unprofessional poorly translated site should scream "STAY THE FORK AWAY!" to anyone with 1 braincell left between their ears
I like to break stuff!
BAleR said:
Ya but then wont they see my "scam message" also?
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No. What he means is you posting a link on a reputable site improves their search engine rankings. This page doesn't have to show in the process.

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