evo 4g slid off my lap wall turning a corner and landed in my 1qt 3/4s full cup of water. it wasn't till my second twitter text that i finely figured out were the fancy lights were coming from. i pulled the phone had my fiance take the cover and battery out instantly.
when i got home we took the phone, with no battery and back and submerged it in rice. after three days the phone seamed dry except for a small amount of water trapped between the digitizer and the screen. after another two days in rice i tracked down the tools needed to disassemble my phone to let out the trapped water.
while letting out the trapped water i broke the ribbon cable for the digitizer and had to order a replacement. 5 days later i installed the new digitizer only to find that my phone would not boot past the white EVO 4g Sprint screen. (given normal time)
over the days and mostly after rooting my replacement Evo i managed to get the swimming one to boot into Hboot/fastboot. from there it froze before booting into recovery. so i flashed a new recovery. then after letting it boot for 15min i got into recovery were i flashed a new rom.
where i stand now.
the phone takes a 20+ to boot then once it does i cant unlock the phone or get any indication that the touch is working. additionally when i hit the power button and wait a solid minute it brings up the lock screen again, shows the lock screen then immediately goes black again.
im running out of things flash. any ideas.
The phone has hardware damage. Sry boss.
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Hey,
Yeah unfortunately you probably fried the electronics and corrupt the data, water damage kills phones and if you dont dry it out in rice until its all done your probally going to fry your phone! so you should be lucky if your sd card still works after this!
But this is all hardware and you will need to get your phone replaced hopefully you have TEP!
I wish you the best of luck!
Stevo
I will reinforce the above statements. If your SD card doesnt work then plug it into your computer, enter disk manager, and see if your system at least sees that the disk is present. If it does then you can run File Scavenger and save your files. If not....then toss it in the trash with your phone.
i don't think it is a hardware issue. i have examined the board and can find no evidence of a short. also the phone boots, it takes a while but it boots, Hboot and Recovery (now) are fully functional. if it was hardware seams i would have less than i have.
is there a way to get a hardware error log or report through fastboot or adb? I'm not going to replace any components but it would be nice to at least know for sure what the final nail is/was.
O the SD card never gave me an issue. have been using it in both my temp phone and the replacement evo mentioned in the original post.
Ok, this is what you do....unless you have a great knowledge of microcircuits and boards, water damage repair is not an exact science.
I own a repair shop and this is what I do and I have about a 70% success rate.
Take apart your whole phone again, go to the store (K-Mart, Walmart, Drug Store and get a bottle of atleast 92% Isopropyl Alcohol. Submerge only the logic board in the alcohol and let it sit 2-3 hours. Then while still in the container of alcohol take a soft bristle toothbrush and clean all the contacts.
Take the logic board out and let dry (Should only take about 30 mins, alcohol dries very fast)
Reassemble and try to boot!!!
Best of luck to you!!!
it worked
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Ok, this is what you do....unless you have a great knowledge of microcircuits and boards, water damage repair is not an exact science.
I own a repair shop and this is what I do and I have about a 70% success rate.
Take apart your whole phone again, go to the store (K-Mart, Walmart, Drug Store and get a bottle of atleast 92% Isopropyl Alcohol. Submerge only the logic board in the alcohol and let it sit 2-3 hours. Then while still in the container of alcohol take a soft bristle toothbrush and clean all the contacts.
Take the logic board out and let dry (Should only take about 30 mins, alcohol dries very fast)
Reassemble and try to boot!!!
Best of luck to you!!!
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so this worked. the phone boots, unlocks, and does all the basic things i would expect it to for not having all of its screws
NewTalk said:
Ok, this is what you do....unless you have a great knowledge of microcircuits and boards, water damage repair is not an exact science.
I own a repair shop and this is what I do and I have about a 70% success rate.
Take apart your whole phone again, go to the store (K-Mart, Walmart, Drug Store and get a bottle of atleast 92% Isopropyl Alcohol. Submerge only the logic board in the alcohol and let it sit 2-3 hours. Then while still in the container of alcohol take a soft bristle toothbrush and clean all the contacts.
Take the logic board out and let dry (Should only take about 30 mins, alcohol dries very fast)
Reassemble and try to boot!!!
Best of luck to you!!!
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Very cool. In case I ever drop mine in some water I'll try this.
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long term affects
the phone takes forever to boot. i'm talking 10 min at the minimum. i have installed several ROMs, upgraded the recovery, no matter what i do this phone takes 100 200 % longer to boot than any of my other evo 4gs running the same rom, kernel, and recovery.
any ideas?
it really slows down my testing.
I want to test ROMS and use as a remote for my XBMC setup.
Did this work?
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Did this work?
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YES IT DID.
I use it as a network remote and for games, so i haven't tested the cell phone aspects of the phone but i don't see why they wouldn't work.
the long boot time is only draw back i have found.
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I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.
When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.
It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
you get points for positive thinking.
sorry to say, but your toy has had it.
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Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
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Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2.
I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...
If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much
Wow! got to be more careful next time. This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care"
I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.
btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.
One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.
A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture
Damn, that's a bummer...
I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...
how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it
White rice trick
Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.
This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.
Hope it helps.
dam man! thats bad luck!
i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege
one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type] after a day drying it worked just fine.
some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.
My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.
The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.
Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)
The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.
My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.
Good luck.
Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.
Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.
Ok preparing
Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)
To dry(cook
Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).
OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.
Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.
Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.
Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.
Whole phone 1-2 days.
Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.
I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/
Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water
IT'S ALIVE!
There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?
Hello,
I accidentally jumped into the water with my desire in my pocket.. I realized it soon so it was underwater just for a few seconds.. It turned itself off straight away.. I quickly took out battery, sim and sd card and let it dry up for about 40 hours. Now I tried to put it together and turn it on but nothing has happened, it seemed dead.. Then I tried to charge the phone, and it managed to turn on right after I plugged it in. Fortunately everything seems to work so far but one thing.. As soon as I unplug it from the charger, it turns off.. The battery is almost fully charged so I suspect I'll need a new one.. Is there something that can be done to save this battery?
btw, it was a normal lake outside, not see or thermal water..
Thanks for every answer in advance,
Adeon
HTC Desire with water
Mate
First thing you should not do, would be to charge your HTC,
as it was full of water inside and therefore you can damage
main board, the heart of your phone.
Now, follow the article included, dismantle your HTC as in
the article, dry everything with a hairdryer and be carefull
with flat cables or with board components.
In both boards carefully remove the small metal covers,
as it can retain water inside, you also use a tooth brush
to clean those areas, but again carefull with components.
Leave digitizer in place and remove display, with hair dryer
try to dry as much water as you can, otherwise, later you
will see spots when display is working.
Try it out and then let me know results.
Regards
John
Please help what do i do get back to me asap! Comment please!
Take out the battery and put it in a bowl of dry rice with a lid and leave it there for 24 - 48 hours !!!!!!!!! Hurry!!!!
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Ok im doing now!!!!!!!!!
Should I turn it on? Or what?
CyanogenMod 8 said:
Ok im doing now!!!!!!!!! God my dad will be soooooooooo mad!
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Do not attempt to turn it on until its been there for a couple days or 2
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U got a hair dryer? If you do after its been in rice 24 hrs open container and blow it dry for 10-15 mins replace for another 24hrs then blow dry another 10-15mins ON LOW then try powering it up
Turning it on can cause something to break internally in the phone
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MAKE SURE TO SEPERATE THE.BATTERY FROM THE PHONE IMMEDIATELY, DO NOT TURN ON FOR ATLEAST 48 HRS sorry for caps want to make sure u see this
Don't use a blow dryer if the temperature on it is too hot. I did that to a keyboard... it can melt the parts... use a cold fan or a blow dryer that has a button for cold air (like mine). My mom recently washed her phone... no luck if you leave your phone in a pocket. The SIM card and SD cards should be fine even if they go for a long swim. My wallet, with my SD cards, have endured such a thing many times.
I turned on once so *grrrrrrrrrrr* But battery no work and idk bout sd card also phone works and only had on for about 1 min and turned off immeadiatly so were good guys soo far i post video to youtube now. Will give link in a min
That's y I said make sure its set on low you only want slightly warm moving air 24hrs AFTER its sat in dry rice to remove the slight moisture left then you should put it back in fresh dry rice for another 24hrs then blow dry on low again for a few mins and let sit for 20 or so mins after blow dry then put back together and test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60RaMOQs-vs&context=C300cffeADOEgsToPDskLZPlw8-rHRgrxN2SrH86W8
This happened at about 9:00 PM today Pacific time. So I should blow dry tomorrow?
Yeah, remove battery, 24hrs in fresh dry rice; blow dry on low or cool air setting 10-15mins; place in fresh dry rice for 24hrs again; blow dry 10-15mins; let sit 20-30mins; replace battery, test
you can look in some of your other products around the house and pull the little packets of beads that say do not feed to children. place them with the device. Be very careful with a hair dryer as it is used in screen replacement to heat the glue around the screen. if your battery/sd card show signs of corrosion on the leads use a new pencil eraser to clean them. good luck.
Just remember when using the hair dryer to help dry the phone out u don't want to do it first. EVER. And you don't want it to be hot, u only use it after sitting in the rice to help push and evaporate the minute amount of moisture left inside the housing after its sat in the dry rice which will pull the large amounts of water and moisture out mostly the hairdryer method is to push some warm air thru the phone to help move the moisture that's left towards the openings and off the logic board and other electronics inside and at the same time the warmth from it helps evaporate some moisture u can't see the other option besides a hair dryer if you have the tools(and skills) is to take the phone completely apart as broken down as u cab and use qtips and a shamwow type of cloth to carefully dab up any moisture u see on the boards and connectors and u can use 91% isopropyl alcohol to clean any corrosion you see starting to form alcohol fully emulsifies meaning it evaporates to nothing and wont cause corrosion, I've actually soaked logic boards from printers in dishes of alcohol to remove ink debris that leaked from bad cartridges onto the print controller clogging the ink ports and been able to save the parts with out having to replace them, I was really skeptical the first time anyone told me to actually submerse the boards in a liquid thinking it would cause some irreparable damage but as long as u let it sit out for an hour or so after the alcohol is like it was never there. Now I couldn't even tell u how many times I've used the alcohol to clean electronics I've accidentally spilled soda or something sticky on and managed to save them with no signs of damage or ill behavior afterwards
Its about 2:30 Pacific Time and it looks like nothings bad! Phone looks dry but should I take it out and Blow Dry it? It looks like nothing/no water is there!
Oh and just tested battery and sd card those are working (tested them on my Touch Pro 2) I'll make video now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-1Z...xt=C384d5ceUDOEgsToPDskLCrR01u0_kS_sNk9Wwouyo
I would dry if u want then replace in rice for atleast until morning before attempting to power on
Edit: memory cards are usually a non issue good quality cards are waterproof and have gold contacts which wont corrode my SD card has gone for a swim a few times
So I dropped my phone in my bath
It was in the bath like literally 1 second or such and I grabbed it out real quick. The screen was on all the time until I pulled the battery
I immediately pulled the battery out and cleaned the outisde with a towel.
After an hour or so I inserted the battery and it came up with the white screen itself(i didn't have to push the power button myself)
Then i waited and it got stuck on the second bootscreen(past the white HTC logo)
Then i pulled the battery out and back in, now the only thing it does is give me a red led.
Have I killed it by trying to power it on? I should've had put the phone in a bowl of rice.
Thanks in advance, any help is welcome but i think it is already dead.
Let the device dry with the lid and battery taken off, preferably near a heater or something.
Or use a dryer with lowest heat setting.
After you have dried it, put it in the freezer for 30 minutes. That should freeze the remaining water particles. Try to boot afterwards.
Thanks, I already dried it with my hairdryer. The phone is now in a bowl of rice.
After I dried it with the hairdryer I 'accidentally' put the battery back in and the screen turned on.(first I had no screen, only red led).
But I immediately pulled the battery out again. Does the fact that the screen still turns on indicate that it is probably possible to make it work again? So you say put it near a heater and then 30 minutes in the freezer? With that you mean without battery, sd card and sim card?
I'm gonna try that after I take it out of the rice.
Thanks again
Rice? Nice. Didn't think of that.
I mentioned putting the phone in the freezer without the battery because extreme temperatures damage them.
Off-topic:
This reminded me of my retarded friend who tried to dry his phone using a microwave. It didn't work... at all.. and neither does the microwave since.
Haha, it blew up? I see people recommend putting a phone with water damage in the oven though(on 50 degrees celsius it is)
I think a microwave is hotter than that. I'll let you know if I can get my phone to work.
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Haha, it blew up? I see people recommend putting a phone with water damage in the oven though(on 50 degrees celsius it is)
I think a microwave is hotter than that. I'll let you know if I can get my phone to work.
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Not sure if you guys are kidding about putting electronics in a microwave...
The only proper way is to disassemble the phone and let it dry. Then clean it with a contact spray maybe.
I dropped my DESIRE 3-4 weeks ago in the f*cking toilet.
What i did was:
pulling out the batt
cleaning the phone with antibacterial wipes
cleaning the phone with contact spray
leave it for 2 days(just in case) to dry
..and now my phone works fine.
PS: you have NO idea how much water was inside the phone, despite it was with TPU cover, and dropped in the water for not more than a 1-2 sec.
NEVER EVER rely on drying it just like that
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Haha, it blew up? I see people recommend putting a phone with water damage in the oven though(on 50 degrees celsius it is)
I think a microwave is hotter than that. I'll let you know if I can get my phone to work.
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I somehow don't think its the heat the key is in the name MICROWAVE
There'd of been sparks flying everywhere in the microwave.
Dried out Desires
Congrats on drying it out.
Be VERY careful with heat -- that's what kills things worse than water IMHO
I also have a "Drowned Desire" (cdma kind) my freind gave it to me she dropped it in sink.
Instead of rice I used the dessicant packs you get @ the ammo store. Set the phone battery out open side down on top of the dessicant and another pack on top then set the shoe-box on top of the hot water heater (it's warm-ish, and dry, area)
Left it for 5 days and it worked
Still tryin to get the rootkit out of it
Virginwidow
Here I am again, after a week in a bowl of rice the desire is working perfectly again,I was surprised that it even booted up.
I got a friend's desire so now I have two of them. Anyway, it is working again thanks to the rice.
Thanks for your help.
My mom dropped her Note 3 in water a couple days ago. I've dried it, soaked it in 91% alcohol and dried it again, but the screen won't work(Doesn't respond to touch input or show an image). I can connect it to my laptop, but it won't be able to load all the files. It will show a couple files before it stops loading, the phone vibrates, and it attempts to reconnect with my laptop.
Seeing as it's almost impossible to retrieve the photos the "normal way," is there any alternative to accessing the memory?
Wow. What kind of water did she drop it in? Did you let it soak in the alcohol for at least 30 min.? I hope you didn't try to power it back up whole components were still damp.
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Wow. What kind of water did she drop it in? Did you let it soak in the alcohol for at least 30 min.? I hope you didn't try to power it back up whole components were still damp.
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No, I let it dry over night, soaked it for a couple minutes(I didn't have the time to watch it for 30 mins cause I had to leave for work) and then let it dry overnight again. I mean, I can hear the bootup song, the volume keys work, and she still gets notifications from her wechat or w/e. Maybe I'll soak it for 30 mins .-. Unless you advise against using excessive alcohol. .-.
Aside from soaking it for 30 minutes again, do you have any other suggestions as for my next course of action?
Did you completely disassemble the phone to ensure all areas dry out?
Did you try installing a custom recovery such as TWRP and then booting into TWRP and mounting the data partition?
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Did you completely disassemble the phone to ensure all areas dry out?
Did you try installing a custom recovery such as TWRP and then booting into TWRP and mounting the data partition?
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It has a custom recovery. I just don't know exactly how to navigate to that option because the screen isn't functioning >.<
Aaand I didn't completely disassemble the phone. I got as deep at the motherboard(Which isn't very deep) because I didn't want to deal with the adhesive in the device.
PS- is it safe to re-soak the device in the alcohol a second time? Is it too late to fix it?
It's possible that there is still moisture inside the phone and is causing a short when powered on. Have a look at some teardown websites for the phone. Don't remove parts that have been attached with adhesive.
Once disassembled, place all of the items in a plastic bag with uncooked rice or desiccant and seal it for a couple of days. I would not soak the phone anymore.
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It's possible that there is still moisture inside the phone and is causing a short when powered on. Have a look at some teardown websites for the phone. Don't remove parts that have been attached with adhesive.
Once disassembled, place all of the items in a plastic bag with uncooked rice or desiccant and seal it for a couple of days. I would not soak the phone anymore.
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Thanks! Just out of curiosity, what is the danger in submerging the parts in alcohol a second time?
Alcohol that is less than 100 percent will have a distilled water component so soaking the phone again may not help.