I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.
When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.
It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
you get points for positive thinking.
sorry to say, but your toy has had it.
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Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2.
I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...
If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much
Wow! got to be more careful next time. This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care"
I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.
btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.
One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.
A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture
Damn, that's a bummer...
I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...
how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it
White rice trick
Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.
This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.
Hope it helps.
dam man! thats bad luck!
i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege
one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type] after a day drying it worked just fine.
some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.
My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.
The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.
Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)
The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.
My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.
Good luck.
Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.
Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.
Ok preparing
Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)
To dry(cook
Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).
OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.
Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.
Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.
Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.
Whole phone 1-2 days.
Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.
I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/
Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water
IT'S ALIVE!
There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?
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My Touch Pro 2 is currently sitting in a bowl of rice while I gather the courage to install the battery and test my methods of drying it out.
Yesterday, my sister walked into the swimming pool with the phone in her back pocket. It only took her a second to realize her error and thankfully I was right there. I popped the battery out without turning on the screen and layed the seperate parts out in the sun for a few hours. When I got home, I dumped the phone into a bowl and filled it with rice in the hopes that the rice would absorb any excess moisture.
This morning, I broke out my tools and broke the phone down, looking for water damage. I found some residual water under the screen, but with so many layers of plastic, I would rather not take it completely apart. To help with this little bit, I placed the phone screen up on the dash of my car for 1 hour. Since sunlight is deadly to a phone, I didn't dare leave it longer.
We have a central heating and air unit outside, so I placed the phone atop the unit outside (it blows warm air from the top) for another hour.
I checked the screen for moisture and can't see any now, but with all of the various layers, it is hard to say for certain.
The last thing I will try is to hook up a universal air pump used for blowing up air mattresses and such to the bowl of rice. With a cover on top and a few vents on the side, I am hoping to blow dry air in and the last remaining moisture out.
If anyone has any other tips or tricks to add, I would be happy to give 'em a shot. I am in no hurry and a few days is worth the wait if it means the chances of the phone recovering are greater with other methods.
If you can create a vacuum (use duct-tape creatively to form a seal between the container* and the universal blower, and have the suction end of the blower making the connection) that would probably be best. Water between button contacts and on the circut board, in my past experience, has been the most lingering after-water problems.
When my blackjack ii took a dive in the doggy dish, it was about a week before it was completely dry, as evidenced by the lack of odd behaviour from the power button. I considered myself pretty lucky in that one. Good luck.
*The best you can probably do for a vacuum container would be to use a good-quality plastic baggy. Cut the zip-lock part off, insert the phone and a folded piece of cardboard to keep the bag from completely colapsing/getting-sucked-up, and duct tape it to the suction end of the universal blower, or even better, the suction end of a cleaned electric leaf blower. -Just a thought.
Update
After allowing the phone to spend yet another night in the bowl of rice (I decided against introducing forced air out of laziness), I plugged the battery back in and tried to boot it up.
The phone did not respond, at all.
I plugged the phone in via the official charger and noticed a momentary blip of the orange LED near the speaker. This seemed familiar, so I pulled the battery out and tried plugging the charger in again: Sure enough, I got the exact same response. The battery was either dead or the phone wasn't recognizing it.
The replacement phone came in Tuesday, but with some medical emergencies in the family, I didn't attempt anything until this evening. I removed the new, charged battery from the replacement phone and put it in the one I have been working on.
Voila! The phone booted straight up with the new battery!
I noticed some residual damage to the dispersal plastic behind the screen as the phone booted with a white background, but once the phone booted completely up, I couldn't see any difference from before the accident.
While I haven't been able to completely test every aspect of the phone, I plan to update this thread once the new battery (buy dot com, ftw!) comes in on Monday.
I am very pleased with the results and it was definitely worth the time and effort I put into the drying process.
If anyone stumbles upon this tiny thread, please keep in mind a few things:
The phone was only briefly immersed in water for about 30 seconds, inside a pocket
After removing the phone from the water, I pulled the battery before turning on the screen
I allowed the phone to dry over the course of five days
I consider the fact that the phone is now working to be a freak coincidence, results are not typical
a friend of mine had his immersed in water for about 3 min before he realized he had it in his pocket....since we are airplane mechanics, we deal with A/C alot, therefore we have a vacuum pump handy for evacuating A/C systems. He put his phone (dunno what kind, it was touch screen though) in to a vacuum chamber ( a glass jar with a hole tapped in the cap to allow for vacuum to be pulled) and pulled a vacuum on it for a day...it is still working and it was 2 months ago. So just an idea, i realize the equipment is not available to everyone, but it worked for him.
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a friend of mine had his immersed in water for about 3 min before he realized he had it in his pocket....since we are airplane mechanics, we deal with A/C alot, therefore we have a vacuum pump handy for evacuating A/C systems. He put his phone (dunno what kind, it was touch screen though) in to a vacuum chamber ( a glass jar with a hole tapped in the cap to allow for vacuum to be pulled) and pulled a vacuum on it for a day...it is still working and it was 2 months ago. So just an idea, i realize the equipment is not available to everyone, but it worked for him.
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This is interesting!
Chemistry suggests that reducing the air pressure to a near vacuum would reduce the temperature needed for the water to evaporate, allowing it to do so at a highly increased rate... but keeping the phone inside an air-tight (and thus water-tight) container would actually prevent the water from escaping.
What am I missing here?
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This is interesting!
Chemistry suggests that reducing the air pressure to a near vacuum would reduce the temperature needed for the water to evaporate, allowing it to do so at a highly increased rate... but keeping the phone inside an air-tight (and thus water-tight) container would actually prevent the water from escaping.
What am I missing here?
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The vacuum pump has a way of letting the vapor out of it in the process of pulling the vacuum...you can see the vapor as it escapes from the vacuum pump and by the time you reach 29.92 or close, you usually never get a perfect vacuum, but close....moisture is mostly gone....let it set, with a set of guages of course (forgot to mention that) monitor the vacuum, anytime it goes below 28-29 or so, turn the pump on again to remove the moisture....untill it holds for several hours making sure its all gone...a little overkill never hurts with these expensive devices.
My wife dropped my galaxy nexus in a bucket of water. So I pulled out the battery and they both sat for about 20 minutes separate, then I powered it back and it gives the usual screen of "I just got dunked!" and isn't working correctly.
Apparently, Verizon never added insurance to my phone when I signed up for it when I got it.
Thoughts on what to do???
How long ago did you buy the phone because you still might have time to buy a warrenty.. put your phone in rice for 24 hours.. not sure if it should be cooked or not so Google it... I'm sorry for your lose and everyone here at XDA forums wish you the best of luck.. the galaxy nexus is a fighter!
Remove the battery and store the phone in a container with lots of rice for a few days. It is a long shot but I have saved a few devices in this manner. The damage may already be done since you tried to power it on.
Something else to do is rinse the phone thoroughly with distilled water before putting it in the rice. This may get rid of any residue left over from the water in the bucket.
Claim on the house insurance? Ive never made a claim before but thats what its there for.
You should put your phone in a convection oven at 50-60 degrees centigrade for like 24 hours.
The battery should NOT be put in there!
One should never try to power it back on after 20 minutes.
This won't help you now, but as others said, after dropping into water DO NOT turn the phone on without letting it sit in a bag of rice for two days MINIMUM>
Wow, sorry about that. You did the right thing by pulling the battery. I really don't understand why you powered it up so soon though, did you think it would dry out in 20 minutes?
Jackpot! Just added total coverage insurance Had 9 days left.
Should I go ahead and make my claim? Or wait a day or two?
And I rooted and unlocked my phone, and since I cannot restore it back to stock, should I report it as lost or will it not matter?
Uncooked rice. For a couple days.. maybe you'll get lucky
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It's not that difficult to get a new one. You can usually find suitable replacements in bars or on dating sites, especially if you've got money. Look for a model that doesn't drop your calls (in water).
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Jackpot! Just added total coverage insurance Had 9 days left.
Should I go ahead and make my claim? Or wait a day or two?
And I rooted and unlocked my phone, and since I cannot restore it back to stock, should I report it as lost or will it not matter?
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Wait a few days.. and probably file a lost claim though you might have to file a police report for that.
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It's not that difficult to get a new one. You can usually find suitable replacements in bars or on dating sites, especially if you've got money. Look for a model that doesn't drop your calls (in water).
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Ok, THAT is funny... and very true, he may need to make that change
As far as the unlocked rooted thing, i don't think it matters at this point. If you are getting it replaced anyway, just totally kill it so it doesn't turn on. who's to know.
Seriously, put the phone in a ziplock bag with UNCOOKED rice for at LEAST 24 hours.
It will absorb all of the moisture out of the phone. Don't be stupid and try to turn it on or plug it in before 24 hours or you risk frying it.
The battery will most likely be fully depleted also. But take it slow. The phone will also still be a little "wonky" even after a few days.
Be careful with the rice too. I usually fill the bag up half way and lay it on a counter... gently placing the phone on top. Last thing you want is rice dust lodged in your buttons (ie Don't shake the bag)
I've done this a few times. Once in the toilet (before use), my kid threw my phone in the tub while I was showering, and my gf dropped her in a puddle.
All were recovered fully.
You have to watch out for water damage with the stickers unless you have full coverage. Theft and loss are two different things. I don't know if you'd need a police report if you just "lost" it. Maybe you were on a Ski Lift and fumbled it into the woods below. Perhaps since we don't have an official 3-Pin Car Holder, the phone slid and fell out the window. I don't think any of those would require a police report.
The window excuse gives you reason to stress test the screen with your car.
Rice thing worked for my wife once on her env3...second time she had it in the washing machine and it left lines on the screen...so rice didnt work on that occasion...luckily when youre best friends with a verizon store manager they can make your life much easier.
You do know that making a claim on your insurance at this point is basically just petty theft?
Another thing to know is to dunk in rubbing alcohol before you let it dry out. The alcohol will actually displace any water still left in the phone (as much as possible) and then you can put it in rice.
When you place the phone in rice, I wouldn't seal the container unless you live in swampy super humid environment. Sealing it traps moisture and ensures the only place the water can go is the rice. That's not the objective. The goal is to draw moisture out of the phone. It doesn't matter if it goes into the air or the rice.
The alcohol option makes since as it evaporates more quickly. But I'd only do that immediately after it happened like the poster stated.
Lastly, swap it out at any time. They don't care because ultimately it will end up in a he said she said ordeal. They will just end up insuring it any how. I've actually had a repair facility add insurance to my account so they can work on my device. The key is being in that window that you can purchase it.
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i once washed my ipod in the washer. it came out, was still on, i turned it off and kept it in rice for 2 days. then it wouldnt power on. i left it in the toaster oven on 165 for a couple of days. still no go and pc doesnt even detect a usb device. after 2 weeks i thought id turn it on.. and it still doesnt. but before i threw it out, i decided to connect it to the usb, and bam! red charging battery. it works perfectly fine now.
Well, apparently my insurance didn't go through yet and my claim didn't work. Took advice from a friend who works at verizon and I hope I can still do the claim again.
My phone is sitting in rice.. hoping it works.
A little late, but I saw an article on life hacker today about a product designed especially for drying wet portable electronics. Fairly reasonable price swell.
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I lied. Here: http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/06/dropped-your-phone-in-the-toilet-use-bheestie-to-fix-it
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Hi all,
My LTE galaxy nexus phone had a bottle of water spill next to it; it then sat in the puddle for several hours overnight (god damn cat...). The next morning I was a bit confused as to why it wouldn't turn on/charge so I removed the battery cover to reveal wet internals. Taking the battery in/out causes the camera flash to turn on but nothing else.
I put it in white rice for the next two days but when I put the battery in, the flash came on again.
Is it safe to say this phone is doomed and I need to hit up my insurance?
Thanks ahead of time for the advice.
Assuming the phone is completely dry (inside and out) then you're probably best off making an insurance claim. Though it may be possible to repair the device if it is something simple (i.e. 'gunk' causing a non-volatile short) doing so may void your insurance and probably isn't worth your time since you have insurance...
You can proceed with the insurance claim, but if it is not totally busted, I'd use a hairdryer or something to drive warm air at it keeping it warm for some time. It was only last week that the Mrs' HTC Sensation got soaking wet as the phone was in the purse with a water bottle... all the water damage stickers are red now and the phone was soaking wet...On top of that the Mrs actually connected the phone to the charger in that condition to check if it was charging....duh... It flashed funny as if it was about to die...
Anyways, I took the battery out and blasted hot air for at least 30 mins through all crevices on the phone, then kept it for a few hours on the radiator and finally in with rice on the radiator for two days...After all that effort, the phone now works as good as it did before....Just stating that it might still be worth trying to fix it yourself in the interim...
For any doubters, here's a story. My Captivate Glide decided to take a little swim in the toilet Friday night (don't ask how or why, because even I don't know), so I dried it off and all the works. I also decided to take part in that rice myth for waterlogged devices. I checked it the next morning, and it still didn't work. So later that afternoon, I was ready to go to the AT&T store and make an insurance claim, and to my extreme delight and surprise, it turned on. Only a couple keys on the keyboard are sticky, but I don't use the keyboard nearly enough to justify a $125 deductible.
So moral of the story is that
A.) the rice myth works
and
B.) the Captivate Glide is one resilient phone!
Keys are sticky? Try wiping them down with lens cleaner ive done that for sticky keys
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Rice always works butbu need to give it more then one day usally then would boot prlly weird the first time cause might still be moisture on th board the steams off. Even if the keys were "sticky" they would eventually get back t proper working condition.. I took a dive with mine in my pocket down 10 ft of water so
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Rice always works butbu need to give it more then one day usally then would boot prlly weird the first time cause might still be moisture on th board the steams off. Even if the keys were "sticky" they would eventually get back t proper working condition.. I took a dive with mine in my pocket down 10 ft of water so
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Hopefully, at least, you took a picture with it, while you were down there.
(Before it died, that is. And auto-saved to sd card, of course.)
From speaking with people who specialize in remediating electronic devices (smoke, water), it seems the single most important thing is to get all forms of power away from the thing as soon as possible.
Including what would be the CMOS battery in a computer.
Apparently it's the (micro?) corrosion between power and water that kills it.
If I had done the dive, I'd be freaking out and ripping the case apart to get at any battery. Probably doing the case in in the process, in my panic.
Good to hear you, and yours, survived. One less thing to live down (if you're married)?
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Rice thing? Pack a dunked device in a bag of rice and leave it for a couple of days? Perhaps with a good fan going nearby? (When my basement flooded, even though only a couple of inches deep, they brought in some industrial fans for several days. Even if the water seems gone, the humidity is still way high, and that's gotta come down, too.)
So I dropped my phone in my bath
It was in the bath like literally 1 second or such and I grabbed it out real quick. The screen was on all the time until I pulled the battery
I immediately pulled the battery out and cleaned the outisde with a towel.
After an hour or so I inserted the battery and it came up with the white screen itself(i didn't have to push the power button myself)
Then i waited and it got stuck on the second bootscreen(past the white HTC logo)
Then i pulled the battery out and back in, now the only thing it does is give me a red led.
Have I killed it by trying to power it on? I should've had put the phone in a bowl of rice.
Thanks in advance, any help is welcome but i think it is already dead.
Let the device dry with the lid and battery taken off, preferably near a heater or something.
Or use a dryer with lowest heat setting.
After you have dried it, put it in the freezer for 30 minutes. That should freeze the remaining water particles. Try to boot afterwards.
Thanks, I already dried it with my hairdryer. The phone is now in a bowl of rice.
After I dried it with the hairdryer I 'accidentally' put the battery back in and the screen turned on.(first I had no screen, only red led).
But I immediately pulled the battery out again. Does the fact that the screen still turns on indicate that it is probably possible to make it work again? So you say put it near a heater and then 30 minutes in the freezer? With that you mean without battery, sd card and sim card?
I'm gonna try that after I take it out of the rice.
Thanks again
Rice? Nice. Didn't think of that.
I mentioned putting the phone in the freezer without the battery because extreme temperatures damage them.
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This reminded me of my retarded friend who tried to dry his phone using a microwave. It didn't work... at all.. and neither does the microwave since.
Haha, it blew up? I see people recommend putting a phone with water damage in the oven though(on 50 degrees celsius it is)
I think a microwave is hotter than that. I'll let you know if I can get my phone to work.
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Haha, it blew up? I see people recommend putting a phone with water damage in the oven though(on 50 degrees celsius it is)
I think a microwave is hotter than that. I'll let you know if I can get my phone to work.
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Not sure if you guys are kidding about putting electronics in a microwave...
The only proper way is to disassemble the phone and let it dry. Then clean it with a contact spray maybe.
I dropped my DESIRE 3-4 weeks ago in the f*cking toilet.
What i did was:
pulling out the batt
cleaning the phone with antibacterial wipes
cleaning the phone with contact spray
leave it for 2 days(just in case) to dry
..and now my phone works fine.
PS: you have NO idea how much water was inside the phone, despite it was with TPU cover, and dropped in the water for not more than a 1-2 sec.
NEVER EVER rely on drying it just like that
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Haha, it blew up? I see people recommend putting a phone with water damage in the oven though(on 50 degrees celsius it is)
I think a microwave is hotter than that. I'll let you know if I can get my phone to work.
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I somehow don't think its the heat the key is in the name MICROWAVE
There'd of been sparks flying everywhere in the microwave.
Dried out Desires
Congrats on drying it out.
Be VERY careful with heat -- that's what kills things worse than water IMHO
I also have a "Drowned Desire" (cdma kind) my freind gave it to me she dropped it in sink.
Instead of rice I used the dessicant packs you get @ the ammo store. Set the phone battery out open side down on top of the dessicant and another pack on top then set the shoe-box on top of the hot water heater (it's warm-ish, and dry, area)
Left it for 5 days and it worked
Still tryin to get the rootkit out of it
Virginwidow
Here I am again, after a week in a bowl of rice the desire is working perfectly again,I was surprised that it even booted up.
I got a friend's desire so now I have two of them. Anyway, it is working again thanks to the rice.
Thanks for your help.