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All such & such says ICS "coming soon" merged

Hey hey,
I know T989D guys are anxious for some ICS news. I called in today to Samsung Canada for some news about the 100% battery bug (where the battery status will stay 100% until you reboot). Anyway, the gentleman on the phone acknowledged the bug and said unfortunately it would not be remedied until firmware version 4.0 was released. He also mentioned that 4.0 was definitely in the works for the T989D, however, he could not confirm the timing, "whether two weeks or two months, I just can't say".
So, there you have it. I confirmed with him again that indeed ICS was on it's way, he acknowledged it was and he definitely knew what he was talking about.
Cheers!
PS: If you're a T989D owner please post your ROM/Kernel experiences and please recommend your top ROM. Thanks!

Right now im running darksides ROM with included kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473077 it adds many options and cool boot screens I cant say ive ever had a crash... Gonna use it till ics comes out
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Awesome! Thanks for the update! Hopefully they send it to Telus soon.
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telus announced it will have ics last year...

it comes out in 2 years when...burger french fries sandwich is made for other phones.

Dec 31 2012
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leoduncan83 said:
Dec 31 2012
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We would be dead by then lol

nyamd20 said:
We would be dead by then lol
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If I have to wait that long I won't have this phone by then
From ya mums house

If its not out by the next big thing, either SGSIII international, Some new google phone, or an Asus quad core(cause i think asus doesnt mess around when it comes to software updates), then id be upgrading.

Rekzer said:
If its not out by the next big thing, either SGSIII international, Some new google phone, or an Asus quad core(cause i think asus doesnt mess around when it comes to software updates), then id be upgrading.
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Asus is a better choice than Google. Google has totally botched our updates and can't seem to get the bugs fixed. Nexus S updates? Hold. Galaxy Nexus updates? Hold.
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I'm pretty satisfied myself with the speed of the phone with gingerbread, holding outs boot longer ain't so bad with such a powerful SoC. This thing bows away my tegra 2 with ice cream sandwich in many ways.
Any other ROM suggestions? Thanks for that one, trying it now!

autom8r said:
I'm pretty satisfied myself with the speed of the phone with gingerbread, holding outs boot longer ain't so bad with such a powerful SoC. This thing bows away my tegra 2 with ice cream sandwich in many ways.
Any other ROM suggestions? Thanks for that one, trying it now!
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could always try foxstar ;]

a call center rep said it will happen, so it will...
i see this ending well... (looks back at similar vibrant threads)

when i bought my t989d from telus in november it said on the website Android 4.0 - available in 2012. This was one reason i bought the phone knowing that it will get it eventually. I do hope it comes damn soon though cause if the gsIII comes out and we still dont have it i will upgrade for sure.

If the T989D gets it, we get it! That's the awesomeness of having a closely related phone to Canadian carriers that care more about updates. The T959D (I believe D) got Gingerbread and we got nothing. Only difference was the antenna bands.

I'm not excited about ics at all, look at the international version of ics.. it looks exactly like gb.
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cashyftw said:
I'm not excited about ics at all, look at the international version of ics.. it looks exactly like gb.
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Who cares, once it drops, we just need to wait a bit and we will get CM9. Bell has the international version and they said in December they would get ICS in April. Looks promising for their date since the other 9100s got the update this week. So if the international version gets it April in Canada, i would expect May to be a good release date for the variants.

cashyftw said:
I'm not excited about ics at all, look at the international version of ics.. it looks exactly like gb.
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Agreed. I have a Sensation with ICS port and the only thing that really improved was battery life. A few tweaks here and there...really isnt a big deal and other than better battery management, I dont see what all the fuss is about...the facial unlock that works 15% of the time maybe?

Android_Guy said:
Agreed. I have a Sensation with ICS port and the only thing that really improved was battery life. A few tweaks here and there...really isnt a big deal and other than better battery management, I dont see what all the fuss is about...the facial unlock that works 15% of the time maybe?
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The fuss is many fold. Better application management. Better Task manager. First Android OS that I had not had to run a Task Killer on to be stable (on Vibrant). Slicker, smoother faster UI. Better Memory management and of course as noted better battery life because of all of the above. Finally, it's System settings screen has a better and more functional layout.
The face unlock is mostly gimmick but nice nonetheless. I will use it once I get it.
Another really big thing is the ICS stock unlock is so far the best I have used.

once the official ICS drop for our phones, the first thing any Dev would do is rip off TW and replace it with something else more AOSP like
personally i've never used any stock launcher
the first thing i do all the time is freeze TW or stock launcher, and replace them with Go Launcher EX
the important stuff of ICS is not the looks of it, but rather the raw power by the 3.x Linux Kernel it uses, and the real usage of SMP
all the top layer stuff can be changed or replaced by something else

Jelly Bean 4.1 will be announced next week. What are you expecting for the Gnex?

Just thought I'd ask since nobody else did. I really hope they fix the audio latency issues and improve the stock email client. Keeping my expectations low since ICS has been so great already. All that needs to be fixed is the foundation of the Android OS so that longstanding issues go away.

It will probably be 4.0.5. You really think they'll name it 5.0 just for those small changes.

My money is on Jellybean being 4.1, not 5.0. A whole point release implies a complete redesign, whereas I really think they wouldn't do that twice in a row. ICS is a good base, and needs refining, not a complete overhaul.

will probably be 4.1 or 4.5 version

Any source that it will be announced next week?
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wayne850 said:
Any source that it will be announced next week?
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Google tends to give a peek at the next version of Android at Google I/O.

martonikaj said:
My money is on Jellybean being 4.1, not 5.0. A whole point release implies a complete redesign, whereas I really think they wouldn't do that twice in a row. ICS is a good base, and needs refining, not a complete overhaul.
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I'm thinking that as well, but publications are calling it 5.0 so I called it that as well.

For such a short period of time from releasing ICS, I don't think they'll name it 5.0 as I assume there won't be any changes. 5.0 would have to be something revolutionary like honeycomb

Think of Eclair, Froyo and Gingerbread, they were 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 respectively and were very much alike. I hardly think Jelly Bean will be THAT much different from ICS to need a new whole number (say 5 or 6).
It'll most likely be 4.1. Not 4.0.X.

CADude said:
Just thought I'd ask since nobody else did. I really hope they fix the audio latency issues and improve the stock email client. Keeping my expectations low since ICS has been so great already. All that needs to be fixed is the foundation of the Android OS so that longstanding issues go away.
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Jelly Bean?
Where'd you get this information?
Flipboard isn't doing its job. I should know these things!
Sent from the future.

There was that leaked photo of the possible Asus Nexus tablet running 4.1. So I am putting my money on Jellybean being 4.1.

4.1
Little changes, performance improvements, some new functionalities and services announced.
That is what I expect.

How long do you guys think Android will stay at 4.X? Considering that only 7% of devices have 4.x, it could be another 2 years before we see a rollout of the 5.x series.

Definitely 4.1 which is what the Nexus 7 tablet is running.
I've done tons of homework on it.

CADude said:
How long do you guys think Android will stay at 4.X? Considering that only 7% of devices have 4.x, it could be another 2 years before we see a rollout of the 5.x series.
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I don't think that the carriers lack of pushing out the updates will stop googles improvements on their operating system.

I'd also agree that it'll probably be 4.1. I can't see Google releasing a 5.x bump so soon after ICS. Jelly Bean will probably be the Gingerbread to ICS' Froyo.

k.janku1 said:
For such a short period of time from releasing ICS, I don't think they'll name it 5.0 as I assume there won't be any changes. 5.0 would have to be something revolutionary like honeycomb
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8 Months?

Get rid of the data drop issues. That is by far the biggest annoyance with 4.0.4 right now.

Would love if it would look something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26931660
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Qortez1 said:
Would love if it would look something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26931660
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Ics looks like that if you want. New ui is not what i waiting for jelly bean.

Android 4.1 Jelly Bean SDK AVAILABLE

Android 4.1 Jelly Bean ​
Android 4.1 will get interactive notifications, overhauled search results, faster touch-screen response, and a tool to tell people information they may want to know about what's going on nearby and what they might need to know.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.1.html
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I like it. Nice adjusments. Better than other i..OS-es in my opinion. Looking forward for the port.

Deonix said:
I like it. Nice adjusments. Better than other i..OS-es in my opinion. Looking forward for the port.
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If we get one. Ics is enough of a pain in the backside to get working with the defy.
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jelly bean on defy?
There may be a future development of android jelly bean for defy ? Or he does not have enough hardware?

froyo was best for defy
GB was compatible
ICS not so compatible
JB don't know if any possibilities

popcorn1122 said:
froyo was best for defy
GB was compatible
ICS not so compatible
JB don't know if any possibilities
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i think a bit different
FROYO was the worst for defy
GB was very good
ICS is definitely the best ( some exceptions though )
JB - maybe it would be even better

Shubhamqweasd said:
i think a bit different
FROYO was the worst for defy
GB was very good
ICS is definitely the best ( some exceptions though )
JB - maybe it would be even better
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I totally agree that Froyo was the worst, it's so slow and ugly :silly: Gingerbread was a huge improvement and Ice Cream Sandwich is an even bigger improvement, but at the moment not all the power of it can be harnessed by our DEFY, so I'd say that Gingerbread is the best. But Motorola is to blame for that, cause with those proper custom kernels, ICS would be flying So, if no way for custom kernels to run arises, I'm guessing that troubles with missing libraries will be even bigger with Jelly Bean, so we might just not even see a CM based on JB for DEFY

Found the Jellybean wallpapers and the new bootanimation over at Android authority!
>>>>>Android Jelly Bean Goodies<<<<<

Has anyone tried the new Jelly Bean VoiceSearch/GoogleQuickSearchBox on our ICS builds yet? I've been searching all over, no-one has yet to post it. You guys had any luck?

I've just tried Jelly Bean on Galaxy Nexus, it's way more faster than ICS because it has this Project Butter (newer hwa) which makes UI constant on 60FPS, so no more UI lags!
Jelly Bean is based on ICS so there won't be so much trouble about porting it because we already have ICS

I think the main question would be whether Project Butter will run with our Froyo/GB Kernel we have to stick with?!

This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!

Thats great !!

He can takes his time, we will apreciate it very much anyway.

defy developers are really making effort.
I didn't see that on any other device forums

The efforts have been fruitful since the long study made by our developers . They made it easy . since once you get to know how things work . and how the ideas are and what kernel functions and codes u shd be actually knowing . It becomes lots easy for implementation

The Best of The Best of the BEST Dev World
As said : Our defy Devs is the most talented and supportive in all thread with even an locked BL , Don,t know how to give them the deserved appreciation

swapnil360 said:
This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
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Awesome..
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I want to know how ep3 it's going to manage the fact that chrome it's the default web explorer in jelly bean when it's not yet functional in ice cream sandwich...
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swapnil360 said:
This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
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it will awesome for all of us , if it happened some how , our developers are best of all others ,
we were just given eclair , we had froyo(modded roms) , GB roms ( best and great performance ) , and we had ICS all good , except some issues due to locked bootloaders, otherwise we at this time could had best ICS rom Available ....... developers are trying their best working day & night for us ,
I am sure that we all will have jelly bean ,( not fully functional though ), but our great developers will make it happen for us all .......
once this Bootloader thing gets solved some how , can't say how ,
we gonna have rocking roms with overall best performance than all the device present in this xda forum ...... and i can bet on this ......
atlast thanks to all the developers of DEFY & DEFY PLUS .......
LIVEPROOF

Good news:bangprovn will start new project in cm10!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29992622&postcount=217
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790721&page=22
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Sorry for discontinuing this project. I will start new project in cm10 so i dont have time to continue cm7 . Sorry again
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new update: he or she said: Will start to build on this sunday

Not to sound like an ass but honestly CM7 looks and feels really dated now and with a more stable CM9 for our phone and hopefully CM10 on the way I rather more effort is focused on ICS and JB ROMs rather than CM7 since we already have good GB ROMs for the SGW.

Just Another★Gamer said:
Not to sound like an ass but honestly CM7 looks and feels really dated now and with a more stable CM9 for our phone and hopefully CM10 on the way I rather more effort is focused on ICS and JB ROMs rather than CM7 since we already have good GB ROMs for the SGW.
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Do you mean outdated? :laugh:

FelixAusChina said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29992622&postcount=217
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790721&page=22
He or she said:
Sorry for discontinuing this project. I will start new project in cm10 so i dont have time to continue cm7 . Sorry again
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whoaa... really? hope for that become true. can't wait for that.

Just Another★Gamer said:
Not to sound like an ass but honestly CM7 looks and feels really dated now and with a more stable CM9 for our phone and hopefully CM10 on the way I rather more effort is focused on ICS and JB ROMs rather than CM7 since we already have good GB ROMs for the SGW.
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I'm not agree with you.
First, there is not a finished and stable CM rom and is not so good start with new projects at this point.
Why?
Because gingerbred on galaxy w is simply perfect and there is no reason or features in CM9 or in CM10 that justify porting and waste of resources and time.
I hope that someone will finish CM7 job.

willypt said:
Do you mean outdated? :laugh:
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Yea, its early in the morning so its a little obvious i'll make mistakes.
kbytek said:
I'm not agree with you.
First, there is not a finished and stable CM rom and is not so good start with new projects at this point.
Why?
Because gingerbred on galaxy w is simply perfect and there is no reason or features in CM9 or in CM10 that justify porting and waste of resources and time.
I hope that someone will finish CM7 job.
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Well your welcome to disagree, i'm not forcing my opinion on you or anyone just stating what I think.
There is no finished CM ROM but stable I honestly think the latest CM9 build is stable for daily use and not so good, lol CM9 runs graphic heavy games a whole lot better than GB even when its OC.
Oh yes GB is much much smoother and better than ICS and JB, sigh. There are already good GB ROMs for the SGW so is it such a big deal that someone wants to drop making CM7 and start doing the newest CM10 for our phone its their choice and if I had skills I rather take my shot and making CM9 and CM10 for our phone better rather than stick with ye old CM7.

Just Another★Gamer said:
Yea, its early in the morning so its a little obvious i'll make mistakes.
Well your welcome to disagree, i'm not forcing my opinion on you or anyone just stating what I think.
There is no finished CM ROM but stable I honestly think the latest CM9 build is stable for daily use and not so good, lol CM9 runs graphic heavy games a whole lot better than GB even when its OC.
Oh yes GB is much much smoother and better than ICS and JB, sigh. There are already good GB ROMs for the SGW so is it such a big deal that someone wants to drop making CM7 and start doing the newest CM10 for our phone its their choice and if I had skills I rather take my shot and making CM9 and CM10 for our phone better rather than stick with ye old CM7.
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Agreed. I just can say, " go for the CM10". I want to live the future not the past...
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Actually, I'm supporting the development of CM9 and CM10 because 'in case of' the ROM becomes standard, I don't have to learn it.
Take an example of the ye old Win XP
Nowadays, Windows 7 has become the new standard of the computing world (of Windows, obviously).
Yes, you can still make Windows XP compatible program (with more cost and testing) , but can you assure that your program (which is made in .. say Win 7 with .NET Framework 3.5 / 4) could run w/o prob in Windows XP while your program works seamlessly in Win 7?
My point here is that we have to take measure on which ROM has brighter future? Will GB be updated again, with more fantastic feature, or will ICS and JB got them?

The problem is that there will be a hell lot of bugs, maybe even a brick... So when I try a new ROM, best I wait till it has only a few bugs that can be replaced with 3rd party apps (eg. Fm radio)
What do you think?
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there will be a hell lot of bugs
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Yeah, bug may exists but that been always a good news if someone try port rom for us!
at least we have a good starting point, cm9 which can be considered as fully working now :good:

Well, If he's really going to port CM10 for us, I hope he knows that may need to rewrite all the drivers again, like in ICS. And I remember he said in CM7 port topic that he doesn't know very much about kernel and drivers development, Oisis was helping him. I thought he should finish CM7 first, but If he consider better to start CM10, so let's go. I'll try to start studying better of kernel development for helping'em out. Like arco's said before, our community has an lack of kernel developers.

fredamsouza said:
Well, If he's really going to port CM10 for us, I hope he knows that may need to rewrite all the drivers again, like in ICS. And I remember he said in CM7 port topic that he doesn't know very much about kernel and drivers development, Oisis was helping him. I thought he should finish CM7 first, but If he consider better to start CM10, so let's go. I'll try to start studying better of kernel development for helping'em out. Like arco's said before, our community has an lack of kernel developers.
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Yeah we need all the support we can get (says the guy who doesn't know a thing about kernels and stuff)...
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iDelta said:
The problem is that there will be a hell lot of bugs, maybe even a brick... So when I try a new ROM, best I wait till it has only a few bugs that can be replaced with 3rd party apps (eg. Fm radio)
What do you think?
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Arco encounters 2 hard bricks + several soft bricks when porting CM9

fredamsouza said:
Well, If he's really going to port CM10 for us, I hope he knows that may need to rewrite all the drivers again, like in ICS. And I remember he said in CM7 port topic that he doesn't know very much about kernel and drivers development, Oisis was helping him. I thought he should finish CM7 first, but If he consider better to start CM10, so let's go. I'll try to start studying better of kernel development for helping'em out. Like arco's said before, our community has an lack of kernel developers.
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It's easier than upgrade from gb to ics. I don't know much about writing driver so i think i will make a bootable cm10 and the rest is for others developer

bangprovn said:
It's easier than upgrade from gb to ics. I don't know much about writing driver so i think i will make a bootable cm10 and the rest is for others developer
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hope you will success ～

Its the right decision, in my opinion - working on a Gingerbread-ROM does not make any sense at the moment - From features to smoothness, ICS is by far the better choice. Although RAM is a bottleneck for some purposes on the Galaxy W, the device as a whole has enough power to profit from the enhancements that came with ICS and JB.

@bangprovn, would you please release your CM7 source code/repo over github or other repos hosting share with maybe some note howto compile it, I have try it but no luck, stuck on brunch ancora command.
It says there is no ancora device code or sumtim like that
On ur cm7 threat osiris had some patch 4 wifi driver, but I'm sure there are some config on device.mk should be aligned correctly, and I think I could learn easily read ur porting process than I have to start from zero, with your mentoring maybe.
Sorry for my bad english

i am exciting～～ for cm10

I'm really looking forward to this!!

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It's easier than upgrade from gb to ics. I don't know much about writing driver so i think i will make a bootable cm10 and the rest is for others developer
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This will be a powerhouse and fast development in CM10 for our phone. A period of 3-4 months, we have a stable CM ROM.

Ace 2 (I8160) Will skipping ICS for JB

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy

wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy[/QUOTE]
what da hell samsung? uour phone spec isn't low enough for ICS, your bull**** touchwiz blows everything down. crappy marketing strategies

Even Samsung Galaxy S Duos http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_duos_s7562-4883.php comes with ICS
Speechless as it is much weaker than our SGW, in term of CPU & GPU, the only thing it wins is the amount of RAM
There are a lot of ICS phones with 512MB RAM from HTC & Sony, if Samsung is willing to give us support, we would get ICS without problem for sure since Samsung got a big team to work it out, really quite a bad support from Samsung for our phone, luckily we got Arco and some developers who work hard to bring ICS to us really thankful to them!

MyDeSTiNaTe said:
Even Samsung Galaxy S Duos http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_duos_s7562-4883.php comes with ICS
Speechless as it is much weaker than our SGW, in term of CPU & GPU, the only thing it wins is the amount of RAM
There are a lot of ICS phones with 512MB RAM from HTC & Sony, if Samsung is willing to give us support, we would get ICS without problem for sure since Samsung got a big team to work it out, really quite a bad support from Samsung for our phone, luckily we got Arco and some developers who work hard to bring ICS to us really thankful to them!
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yes this is right. support al the dev!!

I always look at the bright side of this.
If sammy release update ICS or JB, then we will loose the excitement of custom ROM.
What I mean is like the waiting time of new custom ROM version, the moment when devs release new update and we download it and flash it to our beloved SGW. It's so exciting!!!
Here, we have many custom ROMs and every new release is getting better and better. To be honest, I might prefer custom ROM. Because even if sammy release update, I'm sure it will full with sammy's bloatware.
One day, I met other SGW user. He is just a regular user and don't know anything about flashing. He looked at my phone and say: whoaa..!!! how did you do that?? Can you do it to my phone??
My point is: I DON'T CARE if sammy release update or not. As long as there are custom ROMs, that's more than enough for me

maybe we are not worried about this because there are custom rom. but I feel sorry for those who use stock rom and hope about rom upgrade.

hotheabilly said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
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Seconded!!!!
And the salt into the wound is that the Galaxy Ace 2 is £70 cheaper on O2 Uk pay as you go than my Galaxy W was 10 months ago
ianfebriyanto said:
maybe we are not worried about this because there are custom rom. .
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Yes but surely ROMs like Cyanogen 9 would be much further along and have taken less time to develop and debug if an official Sammy ICS ROM for Galaxy W had been available as a starting point for modding/improving.

opexblue said:
I always look at the bright side of this.
If sammy release update ICS or JB, then we will loose the excitement of custom ROM.
What I mean is like the waiting time of new custom ROM version, the moment when devs release new update and we download it and flash it to our beloved SGW. It's so exciting!!!
Here, we have many custom ROMs and every new release is getting better and better. To be honest, I might prefer custom ROM. Because even if sammy release update, I'm sure it will full with sammy's bloatware.
One day, I met other SGW user. He is just a regular user and don't know anything about flashing. He looked at my phone and say: whoaa..!!! how did you do that?? Can you do it to my phone??
My point is: I DON'T CARE if sammy release update or not. As long as there are custom ROMs, that's more than enough for me
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you're not completely right, for example if we had official ics we would not reverse engineer camera and some other hw, so creating 4.x customs would be easier, but we had just to rely on our devs and huawei u8860 software
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opexblue said:
I always look at the bright side of this.
If sammy release update ICS or JB, then we will loose the excitement of custom ROM.
What I mean is like the waiting time of new custom ROM version, the moment when devs release new update and we download it and flash it to our beloved SGW. It's so exciting!!!
Here, we have many custom ROMs and every new release is getting better and better. To be honest, I might prefer custom ROM. Because even if sammy release update, I'm sure it will full with sammy's bloatware.
One day, I met other SGW user. He is just a regular user and don't know anything about flashing. He looked at my phone and say: whoaa..!!! how did you do that?? Can you do it to my phone??
My point is: I DON'T CARE if sammy release update or not. As long as there are custom ROMs, that's more than enough for me
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Developers would be able to customized ICS if a stock ICS is already available than creating from scratch. ICS is different from GB. Thats why devs are having difficulties in fixing stuffs like camera for phones that do not have ICS. Devs would love to use working libs for ICS phone-related components. Then porting JB would be much faster too since little is different from ICS.
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hotheabilly said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
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trueeeeeeeeeeeee

dimaka1256 said:
you're not completely right, for example if we had official ics we would not reverse engineer camera and some other hw, so creating 4.x customs would be easier, but we had just to rely on our devs and huawei u8860 software
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bbmadzky said:
Developers would be able to customized ICS if a stock ICS is already available than creating from scratch. ICS is different from GB. Thats why devs are having difficulties in fixing stuffs like camera for phones that do not have ICS. Devs would love to use working libs for ICS phone-related components. Then porting JB would be much faster too since little is different from ICS.
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I realize that. But I also know that pissing off to sammy and curse them won't change anything.
What I mean is instead of pissing off to sammy, we should be grateful because we have devs that work very hard porting ICS for our phone.
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Jelly Bean comes to support phone with NFC device. I think that the cause of the making jelly Bean to Ace 2. Don't worry guys... We have development Forum, we have developers and we have Arco. Not to mention, but ace 2 has no their own thread. You check on search box, no ace 2 comes out. Lol. Probably that's why Sammy feel pity for them and make them a jelly Bean. LMFAO.
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azhiekurosaki said:
Jelly Bean comes to support phone with NFC device. I think that the cause of the making jelly Bean to Ace 2. Don't worry guys... We have development Forum, we have developers and we have Arco. Not to mention, but ace 2 has no their own thread. You check on search box, no ace 2 comes out. Lol. Probably that's why Sammy feel pity for them and make them a jelly Bean. LMFAO.
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+2 saki!!!
u hv d nutz..

azhiekurosaki said:
Jelly Bean comes to support phone with NFC device. I think that the cause of the making jelly Bean to Ace 2. Don't worry guys... We have development Forum, we have developers and we have Arco. Not to mention, but ace 2 has no their own thread. You check on search box, no ace 2 comes out. Lol. Probably that's why Sammy feel pity for them and make them a jelly Bean. LMFAO.
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Are u trying to bullying ace 2 ? LOL
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hotheabilly said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
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I really wish this was true, and I wish Sammy would bring this update out NOW!
Not because I have one of these phones, but because that firmware could be the base for the developers working on our Wonder. That means it's gonna be easier to port, and we'll have a stable CM10 in no time! :highfive: