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A lot of people are asking about Android on the Wave but I was just thinking one of the best ways to promote bada would be to port it to the Galaxy S or even other phones. I am sure there has to be at least a few Galaxy S owners that would be interested in at least playing with bada. This would vastly increase the potential market size for developers and provide more incentive to develop for bada. So what do you guys think, is it doable or even worthwhile? And if anyone at Samsung by chance is reading this, perhaps you could write an official alternate bada firmware for your Galaxy S customers. The way I see it, it could only help in promoting bada.
This is a great idea. We should definitely do so. This procedure will promote our system
I agree but is Bada out yet? I thought it was still under development. Im sure samsung will want to release versions of it out made completely by them before they release the source for open dev
iffrett said:
I agree but is Bada out yet? I thought it was still under development. Im sure samsung will want to release versions of it out made completely by them before they release the source for open dev
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hmmm
LOL!!!
Firstly we are on version 1.2 (the 1.x indicates stable) secondly its not open source. Where do you people come up with that stuff??
lol Bada on Galaxy S that will never happened
It might not happen, but I do believe it is possible. Galaxy S and Wave apparently share much of the same hardware so I wouldn't think it would be impossible to port. In my mind, I would think it would be easier to port Bada to the Galaxy S than it would to port Android to the Wave. All it would take is someone with the knowledge and motivation. But then again, I'm not a hacker or programmer so I will readily admit if I am wrong about this. Pipe dream or not, I think it would be a huge step forward if it happened.
Kill the topic guys, any developer will give you countless reasons why this is a pointless exercise.
sabianadmin said:
Kill the topic guys, any developer will give you countless reasons why this is a pointless exercise.
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Here it is, that wonderful spirit of adventurousness that makes life worth living. Why don't you explain to us some of the reasons that this is a pointless endeavor? I am not a programmer so please enlighten me. I like the idea of Bada being ported to the Galaxy S phones.
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Here it is, that wonderful spirit of adventurousness that makes life worth living. Why don't you explain to us some of the reasons that this is a pointless endeavor? I am not a programmer so please enlighten me. I like the idea of Bada being ported to the Galaxy S phones.
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Go off and look the other topics i have started. then come back and say that too me. This pointless because we are having a damn near impossible time porting Android over to the Wave even though the entire Galaxy line which has similar (but in many ways different) hardware. And thats with Android which has its source code readily available to any developer. Bada is for all intents and purpose, Closed source.
Samsung releasing the source code would do a hell of a lot for bada. So what if the code is not perfect, there would be a lot of new eyes looking at the code, suggestions and improvements will surely come...
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You know what..After Bada 2.0.1 is officially out and it supports s8500, I think there maybe a port which will take place to get bada on android! It is so cool man! But, at the same time, I see the Android 2.3.4 has many features and animations better that the bada 2.0.1. It is gonna be a tough choice on what you want! I own both bada as well as Android smartphones...So i would love to have bada on my wave and android on my Galaxy SL! I can clearly see the difference and the competition
They won't release bada sourcecode, never.
Releasing sourcecode means losing control over software.
Also, they are using proprietary libs of many companies, for example QuRam, releasing source would be very long and expensive process.
Its possible to patch bada 2.0 kernel without sourcecode to get it working on SGS. But I don't believe anyone will do it.
Even if we find out bada 2 is nice OS, almost nobody will want it instead of Android - no devs (nerds?) ready to spent hundreds hours of their time just because of being kind.
Me and some others tried it because i wanted to help get android onto your devices. It is next to impossible at this point. I hope newer releases will become a little better
I would not say its out of question. But then again we always want and strive to get what others say is impossible. Its what built XDA after all
So yes i still look into it..and try and try. Maybe one day
Rebellos said:
They won't release bada sourcecode, never.
Releasing sourcecode means losing control over software.
Also, they are using proprietary libs of many companies, for example QuRam, releasing source would be very long and expensive process.
Its possible to patch bada 2.0 kernel without sourcecode to get it working on SGS. But I don't believe anyone will do it.
Even if we find out bada 2 is nice OS, almost nobody will want it instead of Android - no devs (nerds?) ready to spent hundreds hours of their time just because of being kind.
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i agree with you. at this stage i dont see any advantage of porting bada to galaxy. and yes there are two or three persons willing to have bada on it, but its not enough. maybe in future....
ok maybe, i would like see every os on every device, maybe this is a fact that everything makes sense, if everyone can choose everything it would be better, than i buy a device pay os license and if i dont like it use another. would be realy nice.
All things is't possible in development world
And it is July now
Here's the post I found http://archiverabhinav.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-bada-2-launch-announced-for.html
no wonder i have somewhere read that bada has in india 10 % of market, they are aming to countries that like bada, germany as i am using its firmwares will get it i think as last, the people there dont like bada and putting it down on every forum.
maybe it is better so, india has more oses to choose and we are sitting on only two to choose, yepee.
Lol that is old news
after that samsung shifted to september
kadavil said:
Lol that is old news
after that samsung shifted to september
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lol
as i remember they said on mwc that the sdk will come on july and bada 2.0 on september for wave and waveII.
and this news is from april. I dont know also the pictures are from this guy here that postet the first bada 2.0 pictures, this is not a long time ago.
In April, they said bada 2.0 will come to India in July..
few weeks later, a tweet from them said September
Thanks Kadavil for info..( btw are u the same kadavil who is on badaforums? )
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Thanks Kadavil for info..( btw are u the same kadavil who is on badaforums? )
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Yes..he is the same kadavil
Maybe they will launch the Wave 578 in July (with Bada 2.0) and the 2.0 FW for Wave and Wave II will be released in September.. That way.. both news will be true
What we can get earlier though is the public beta/ other country versions.
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Maybe they will launch the Wave 578 in July (with Bada 2.0) and the 2.0 FW for Wave and Wave II will be released in September.. That way.. both news will be true
What we can get earlier though is the public beta/ other country versions.
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Public beta wont be out yet
The closed beta is only about to start and everyone in it is bound by the TOC not to distribute it
Im in the closed beta and the 2.0 SDK is not yet out either so looking at September would be a good indication for the Beta to be out not the release
Well, As i see Bada 2.0 is much awaited. And, I think people who got Android on Wave are soon gonna throw away android and get Bada...Maybe there will be a port of bada into Samsung Galaxy
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Well, As i see Bada 2.0 is much awaited. And, I think people who got Android on Wave are soon gonna throw away android and get Bada...Maybe there will be a port of bada into Samsung Galaxy
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ha ha it will never happen be sure
lol it is currently happaning, everyone wants bada 2.0 on wave
larioteo said:
lol it is currently happaning, everyone wants bada 2.0 on wave
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Sure. Because of the leaked firmware. But we had the same when the first android build leaked... So I think it's just a matter of personal taste. I'm happy seeing the 2.0.1 leaked, and to be honest I like what I see on the videos. But I won't stop developing Android because of it...
maybe yes, why not? android has his supporters more than enough some bada hackers are always welcome. hack the kernel give us root rights, than you will be more than a hero man. the first person that hacked bada and not the 100000000 person that hacked android.
used bada 2.0 for two hours
liked it... but still want android
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hack the kernel give us root rights, than you will be more than a hero man.
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All is possible.
How would you define root rights? I'm not familiar with the API - what is that functionality that is not accessible?
We all need to be aware that any stick has two ends and privilege escalation may easily lead to malicious usage at some point.
what root rights, you don't have a plan man, why you need root rights? an app can write to media folder over an api that is secure, on android an app can send you data to anywhere with root rights, what is better? every app is possible, a little bit reading the documentation would help, and the protection that noone can hack the apps as easy is for developers a dream on android there are so many illegal stuff, that the small ones doesnt earn anything on it, everybody using android here wants to use illegal software and this is why android is crap, why to develop for such a os, for fun? some people needs to earn money with their coding, what can they say? they all going to ios cause there you can earn much more money, and bada 2.0 is the opponennt of ios not android, android is only a illegal container for me, no interesting stuff in, you must even install a packet counter app to know how much you use internet connection, realy unusable an os that cannot do what my old W800i could do.
Sorry, but I didn't get what you mean. I don't need root rights for anything. I'm not mobile developer, I do research for fun and I honestly don't crave for Android. I was referring to your previous post about bada hacking and just wanted to know what you mean. I definitively could use some reading of the documentation, but it would be by far more convenient if you just answered the question. I support initiatives where people sacrifice their time and don't get into fights between mobile platforms. I do not support warez and do not publish anything leading to developers losses. I can understand your irritation as you (from what I understand) code for living, but try to canalize the emotions in the other direction. I rephrase the question:
Is there a blocked functionality in bada that the developers could potentially use, but it is not usable without certain permissions or access to some resources?
OK rootrights would be in one point nice, to access the internal system and to do some major changes witout custom firmwares or stunes, that is all, if i want to change something or to add my email account backup this would be a nice solution for everyone, all other things i am also not interested in.
We'll see, but I don't suppose it to be a kindergarten play. I should have a bit more time for this in August. Maybe there will be some more Bada 2.0 firmwares to analyze by that time.
Hi there.
Well i'm a bit upset about the changing release date for bada 2.0. I just can't understand why they are doing this to their customers.
When i brought by S8500, i didn't expect an android or an ios phone, i understood that bada is a tiny OS and there are no warranty for updates or for the OS to survive. BUT when bada them self gives us this fake hope about releasing a new update soon and just spitting us in the face every time they say "hi guys, we can't use the money that you gave us to find a guy with a normal brain that can make up a realistic plan for the new release and gives a date that we can hold, because a date is only a symbol to show that we will not fail you, we do our best to show respect for the money you gave us and the support you are giving us".
So i twitted this to @samsungbada "@samsungbada if u can't keep your promises,don't promise.Every time u change the date for bada 2.0 release u spit your customers in the face".
Maybe it's who are being disrespectful , so please just say it. I'm i the only guy that can't understand why they are doing this to their customers, are there no one from samsung that watches so the bada-team doesn't mess up their name?
I'm more fine with bada saying bada 2.0 will be out there 2020 and then giving it 2012 then them saying NEXT MONTH and three month later saying next year.
I'm not saying that you should attack them but IF you feel as i do and see the disrespectful acting that i see then you should maybe think of sharing a piece of your mind to them. If you have an other point of view, please share it with me so i can learn from my mistakes (if i made one).
I'm a developer myself and i just cant understand what's going on. I have developed apps for Windows Phone but not for bada and i don't even own a phone with WP. Bada doesn't give me any respect so i can't give it my respect back by developing apps for it and tell my friends good thing about it.
Please remember remember, i didn't expect anything from bada, i don't expect anything from bada, but IF they them self, without any one asking , saying we will give you this hope, trust us and then spitting in our faces , then it's a different thing and that's what this thread is about, sharing our feelings and hoping that someone from them will hear it and at least gives an apology!
I don't get your anger. Samsung itself never published officially Bada 2.0's release date and so it was never changed. Every date was made up by bloggers and "sources close to the company", so your anger should point to these people, not to Samsung IMHO...
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You are in wrong section.
Please search for crying like an baby section and post then...
This is for Development and Hacking.
Best Regards
anghelyi said:
I don't get your anger. Samsung itself never published officially Bada 2.0's release date and so it was never changed. Every date was made up by bloggers and "sources close to the company", so your anger should point to these people, not to Samsung IMHO...
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"bada 2.0 will be available from 4Q(starting Europe)in different countries gradually[cont]" They announced it them self on their twitter
adfree said:
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Please search for crying like an baby section and post then...
This is for Development and Hacking.
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I'm sorry if it's the wrong section, there are many threads just talking about bada and their releasing date, so it didn't think it would disturb.
Thanks for calling me a cry baby when i was talking about how a company should have respect for their customers, it's a very mature statement coming from you.
...so it didn't think it would disturb.
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Sorry, my fault.
But here on XDA it is "useless" info...
Why not post on SAMSUNG Forum... like this one:
http://developer.bada.com/badaforum/board/thread/list.do?boardName=bada-general
Maybe they will not answer or delete your post.
BUT they can't ignore it.
Merry Christmas
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"bada 2.0 will be available from 4Q(starting Europe)in different countries gradually[cont]" They announced it them self on their twitter
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It actually is available - on Wave 3.
Here is a link to the Bada 2 petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/bada-20-update-for-old-wave-devices-we-want-it-now
the above link is a petition started by Manuel , owner of Badablog.it who often communicates with Samsung Italy.
I understand your frustration and we can take pro active steps to make productive results. Join the petition and get everyone you know to sign up.
@adfree of course i meant "so i didn't think it..." sorry for my bad English i speak c++/c and other languages much better so
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btw thanks for the link , i want to know what developers think about the situation , because it effects us also and we are a bit important for the surviving process for bada
@Rebellos they answered this twitt "@samsungbada when we can download from KIES BADA 2.0??? We Bada users are very anxious!!!" and i guess wave 3 comes with bada 2.0 already so he must have a device that doesn't currently have bada 2.0
@bong4316 i don't care anymore if they release bada 2.0 or not , i will give something else a try, maybe Meego or something that are not android or iOS. I just hope that samsungbada learns something from this and trys to not make the same mistake again and hopefully one day win my and others respect back.
Merry Christmas every one!
Samsung is merging bada with Tizen. I don't know what exactly is going to be open-sourced or if support is going to be dropped entirely.
Samsung merging bada with Tizen for smartphone push
Hello Master Melab
Please, can you tell me if BREW ecosystem is alive in US market?
My last infos are VX10000 or Samsungs R810 or something similar in this case...
But this looooooooooooooong time ago.
Are their any latest BREW devices from Samsung on market?
Thanx.
Best Regards
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Samsung is merging bada with Tizen. I don't know what exactly is going to be open-sourced or if support is going to be dropped entirely.
Samsung merging bada with Tizen for smartphone push
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You can refer to a discussion about it in progress :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445114
For the moment the only thing that is sure is that Samsung is working with Intel on Tizen OS. Samsung said also that they even don't know what will happen to Bada. It must be merged with Tizen. All others news are unofficials and/or rumours.
Yes, adfree, while feature phones are falling out of favor over here, plenty use BREW MP.
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Its an appeal to Every Bada site to join in and just do something for Bada Community. Today as soon as the Facebook,twitter, YouTube and google+ page of Samsung gets the update of Samsung Galaxy S4,we will start our movement.
What we have to do
If you are the first one to comment on that Page then just write. “We want Tizen for Samsung wave” And write your demands as you wrote on our site. Then like your own comment and After that see if their is any similar comment on top that is having many likes then like that comment too.
If Samsung starts deleting our comments then everyone should post their comment after every hour if possible. So that there are too many comments to so get irritated and finally answer to or quires. Also spread this news across technology sites like eg cnet ,engadget, tech2 or any other sites so that we can get some media attention.
FACEBOOK PAGE: HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/SAMSUNGMOBILE
Youtube Page: http://www.youtube.com/SamsungMobile
Twitter Page :https://twitter.com/SamsungMobile
Google Plus :https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobile/posts
Please this is our last chance to do anything for our samsung wave devices so please try your best and try to involve some of your friends so that we can get what we want.
Hope This Works and Samsung answers our question and Brings Tizen to Samsung wave devices.
Source: http://badahub.com/2013/03/we-want-tizen-for-samsung-wave-movement-starts.html
But Tizen is at the moment bul.s..., because NOT finally finished nor released for public market.
Btw... Tizen seems Hardware hungry for more RAM...
We can't upgrade our RAM in Wave...
This is 1 of K.O. Points...
Second Kick in the Face...
You will likely see the first smartphone using Tizen from Samsung in the third quarter of this year.
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In S.ms.ng time this means end of 2013... Maybe Christmas time...
Maybe 2014...
What we do with our Waves over 6 months...
Btw...
How many petitions you can remember with success? for bada...
Good luck.
Not gonna work. They will delete the posts. Simple as that. The last resort for our waves is only BADADROID or maybe Tizen Port ?
must tizen
we must tizen
tizen is not needed for wave 1 and 2. android is almost finished
GreekBlood said:
tizen is not needed for wave 1 and 2. android is almost finished
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The goal of the protest is not necessarily Tizen, but any kind of support we deserve.
7.5 million new customers in the second half of 2012 were abandoned by Samsung!
Better its ask Wave source
Tizen or Bada ?
Prefered they continue Bada !!!
S4...S3....S2....galaxy will reach S75 maybe....but what about BADA,what about TIZEN?????What about me and some other million people????
This is my post on Samsung's facebook page
Tigrouzen said:
Better its ask Wave source
Tizen or Bada ?
Prefered they continue Bada !!!
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As I Said,
The goal of the protest is not necessarily Tizen, but any kind of support we deserve.
7.5 million new customers in the second half of 2012 were abandoned by Samsung!