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[SOLVED] ROM or Radio first?

Hi there.
Erm.. this is kinda weird question, say that the ROM that you wish you flash requires a different radio from your current one, will you actually flash the new radio first then only the ROM?
Or you will flash ROM then only radio. Will there be any impact?

ROM first.
9 times in 10 it won't make any difference but there's a chance a ROM might replace the radio anyway.

Thanks Mr_JMM!

I think it doesn't matter..You only need to match your libhtc-ril and radio....
Go to see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986

im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?

psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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I've done ROM then radio about 5 or 6 times now just playing around with different ROM and radio combinations & never had any problems doing it ROM then radio

psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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Yes, ROM first.
Mods: This thread can be marked solved and closed now I think.

However....
SOME ROMs when going from certain radio's to certain radio's have had reports that it is better to flash the radio before the ROM.
This seems to have cropped up with the latest GB Sense ROM's.
So I take it back, as a rule of thumb, flash ROM first, I still stand by that, however, check with the ROM first but be aware such things are usually buried deep in a thread and maybe something that gets fixed with later updated versions of that ROM.
Again. ROM first but when a brand new ROM comes out, specifically the new GB Sense ROM's, check the first 5-10 pages.
At time of post, LeeDroid's ROM v3.0.0 is one such ROM that might work better with Radio flashed first.
My apologies but this info is very very recent.

OK, that could make sense. Thought I stepped in deep doo-doo earlier, but rocked back to life with the nan backup. Scared me all to hell, but I might try flashing the radio, then LeeDroid. When coming from CM7 rc3 - It froze on boot.

I did radio first them ROM and had no issues.
iOO 4.2

Running AOSP kernels

Hi guys,
I'm running stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on my d2tmo Galaxy S3. When I look up kernels and whatnot, they are labelled many different ways. Some have JB in the name, some with AOSP in the name. I'm wondering: what types of kernels can I flash if I'm running a rooted stock ROM? I don't want to flash any custom ROMs because I'm a musichead and I like the stock music player
Thank you!

First of all you can get then stock music player with a custom rom
Second you can only run aosp kernels with an aosp rom. Aosp stands for android open source project. Aosp is not stock.
You can only use kernels labeled stock or touchwiz if you are using stock based rom
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

3rd of all, what in the heck do you want? Haha, you say you are running a 4.1.2 rom (only aosp available on TMO) so AOSP... but you want a kernel for stock (4.1.1) touchwiz rom? The stock music apk is great and works on all stock touchwiz based roms, and in my resource guide I have a huge list of what is available and what is what, if the kernel says 4.1.1 TouchWiz then it is for 4.1.1 TouchWiz. if it says 4.2 AOSP it is for 4.2 AOSP, if it says 4.1 AOSP then it is for 4.1 AOSP... Look in my resource bible in my signature, or in the dev sections for [kernel].

See, that's where I get confused. Sorry for the noob questions. I've been looking around but can't find clear, precise answers.
I'm running the stock TouchWiz, out of the box, 4.1.1 Jelly Bean (updated while not rooted to 4.1.2). That stock ROM is not the same as an AOSP ROM or an AOKP ROM, is it? I have another Android device that runs CM10.1 so I know a bit here and a bit there about ROMs and whatnot, but I'm not so confident when it comes to my S3.
Simply put, I want to keep that stock ROM, but get a custom kernel, because the stock kernel SUCKS. I need to know what kernels I can flash, and clninja already said I can only flash kernels labelled stock or TW. Am I correct, so far?
Thank you!

Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:

There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
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kruse1944 said:
Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:
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That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?

seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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There are a couple of touchwiz kernal's around, Ktoonsez is one that I would recommend, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871946
Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.

mt3g said:
There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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I see what you did there. :highfive:
seokhun said:
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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Most of the times when you flash a ROM that is built off itself, you can "dirty flash". Example--> That means if you are already on a RootBox Nightly 2/17 with a clean install and RootBox 3/6 comes out, all you have to do is wipe /cache and /dalvik-cache and then flash the new version of the ROM. If any bugs creep up, then if you dirty flashed, chances are that is why.
If you are going to go from a TWiz ROM to an AOSP/AOKP ROM then I suggest a full factory reset and wipe accordingly. That way you have a clean install.
Read the OPs of the ROMs
TieDye21 said:
Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.
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Yup. Thankfully my phone likes me, plus I kind of know what I am doing with regards to diagnosis.
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?

seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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You could install the update, but seriously I never do updates. I manual flash the whole new ROM. ( and I never had any accidents or bugs)
For the kernel, its was a example kernel chose the one you prefert ( THAT SUPPORT TOUCHWIZ STOCK ROM ) or just flash a new ROM with build-in kernel like the ParanoidKANGdroid 10.2 ROM !

I flashed the FrostyJellybean ROM with Xone kernel and it's been good so far. I'm a religious person when it comes to battery, but so far it's about the same as the normal drainage on the stock ROM, no noticeable improvements.
Another question (whoop): if I run a Nandroid backup, does that backup include the ROM itself? In other words, if I'm running the Frosty ROM, and there's a ROM I want to test, will creating a Nandroid include the Frosty, or will it just backup the system image excluding the ROM itself? I'm asking this because I have wanted to restore my Nandroids but didn't know if that backup may overwrite my existing ROM with the previous ROM.
Thank you guys for taking your time to help me out, I really appreciate it!
Woody said:
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?
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I have flashed a new ROM, so I no longer have the stock Build Number. It now says FrostyJellybean v11.6. I can tell you for a fact that I was previously running 4.1.1 rooted but without any customization or mod whatsoever outside the phone's original settings, so as stock as you can get.

A Nandroid is essentially a snapshot of your ROM at that point in time. You can back it up, try a new ROM and if you don't like it, then restore your Nandroid. A Nandroid should be done before you flash anything. You don't necessarily have to keep them all except your latest, but at least have one for when you try something out.
You can flash and restore just fine from ROM to ROM. Only thing is, you can't restore across platforms. Meaning, if you are on JB 4.1.1, you couldn't restore to ICS 4.0.4. Likewise you can restore a JB 4.1.1 if you are on a JB 4.2.2 ROM because of the file structure. There are ways to do it, but I won't go into that right now. Moral of that story is you can flash and restore laterally as far as builds go, but you cannot restore across different base builds.
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I just wanted to see your Settings>About Phone>Build Number because in your OP, you stated that you were running "stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean". We don't have a stock 4.1.2 ROM, so I was making sure you didn't have another phone. Sure, could be a T999 but there are Canadian versions out there that require different things.

Oh, about the Android version, yes, it's 4.1.1. I wrote 4.1.2 because I thought there was some stuff going on, like wireless and whatnot, and had previously read somewhere that 4.1.2 was rolling out and my phone was doing the "Android is upgrading" thing when it booted up and I didn't check the version before writing that. No worries, it was the stock 4.1.1.
Thank you so much for answering my questions, you guys are awesome!

[Q] Confused about how to upgrade to MK4 based ROMs

I've been poking around looking for a Touchwiz based ROM to upgrade to and I'm completely confused and thoroughly bedazzled (comic sans, multiple colors, huge signature graphics, etc).
It seems that MK4 based ROMs are based off of the latest Sprint images, but to upgrade into one of those, you have to revert to a stock less than MK4 ROM, then update to MK4, then upgrade to an MK4 based ROM? Does it matter if you are rooted or not? I got the impression you had to unroot at some point...
What happened to the days of a ROM was self contained? I've seen several ROMS mention that you had to have a certain base ROM already installed to install a different ROM. That sounds needlessly complicated....
I found this ROM I would like to load:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537186
and it seems this is a stock MK4 ROM, but I'm not sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541395

AllanonMage said:
I've been poking around looking for a Touchwiz based ROM to upgrade to and I'm completely confused and thoroughly bedazzled (comic sans, multiple colors, huge signature graphics, etc).
It seems that MK4 based ROMs are based off of the latest Sprint images, but to upgrade into one of those, you have to revert to a stock less than MK4 ROM, then update to MK4, then upgrade to an MK4 based ROM? Does it matter if you are rooted or not? I got the impression you had to unroot at some point...
What happened to the days of a ROM was self contained? I've seen several ROMS mention that you had to have a certain base ROM already installed to install a different ROM. That sounds needlessly complicated....
I found this ROM I would like to load:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537186
and it seems this is a stock MK4 ROM, but I'm not sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541395
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582027
well to answer your question about if you need to be rooted to flash this rom or any rom. As for your first link that isnt a rom its a MOD. That MOD allow you to add those features to a 4.3 rom and above. And for the second link you can flash that itll be stock. The link I provided is for the rom im currently using which is TW based rom ad has the Note 3 spen features already included. Check it out. Hope I made sense. Let me know if u have any other questions. Ill try and answer them to the best of my knowledge. Good day to you

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582027
well to answer your question about if you need to be rooted to flash this rom or any rom. As for your first link that isnt a rom its a MOD. That MOD allow you to add those features to a 4.3 rom and above. And for the second link you can flash that itll be stock. The link I provided is for the rom im currently using which is TW based rom ad has the Note 3 spen features already included. Check it out. Hope I made sense. Let me know if u have any other questions. Ill try and answer them to the best of my knowledge. Good day to you
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Ah, I see what happened. I didn't know there was such a thing as a MOD, only ROMs. I came across the ROM you linked to thinking it was a repost of the MOD-that-I-thought-was-a-ROM, so i was wondering what was going on.
I will give that ROM a shot. Thanks for clarifying things!

AllanonMage said:
Ah, I see what happened. I didn't know there was such a thing as a MOD, only ROMs. I came across the ROM you linked to thinking it was a repost of the MOD-that-I-thought-was-a-ROM, so i was wondering what was going on.
I will give that ROM a shot. Thanks for clarifying things!
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Yeaah np. Hit the thanka button if I helped out hahahah. XD

[Q] Flash EVO 4G back to stock ROM

Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!

HunterZ0 said:
Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!
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I'm looking for the exact same thing... I'd like to go back to the stock HTC Sense ROM, but I've lost my old backup copy (long story) and having trouble finding a suitable replacement. Did you happen to save a backup of your stock ROM before switching to the Evervolv ROM? If so, could you send me the Zip?
Or, if anyone out there on the forum could help, that would be great.
I was hoping to get some benefit to a more recent version of Android, but all the ROM's I've tried thus far seem to have one glitch after another. I'd prefer to go back to a stock, or some slightly upgraded version of the SENSE IU. Any suggestions appreciated.
I downloaded this ROM as it looked like a good "SENSE-esque" ROM, and looks like most everything is working on this version.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?12344-ROM-5-09-12-New!!The-Express!!-Updated!!-Working4G!!-Full-Landscape-Sense-3-0-Aroma-Installer!!&p=203943#post203943
Thoughts?

I don't have a backup of my stock ROM as far as I know.
I really wanted something close to stock, so I think I ended up settling on [Rom]TN_Elousions3.2_OTA_5.07.651.6_Deoxed_Stock_Theme.zip which is a moderate mod of the last stock ROM.
I ended up going through the S-OFF process as well to make sure that I had the latest radios and such.
It's functional, but between the Sense changes and the fact that it's Gingerbread-based means that there are some things about the UI that just aren't as nice as Evervolv. The upshot is that the battery consumption is lower and the hardware features work or work better (4G, FFC, camcorder, FM radio, etc.).
I'm tempted to try one of the last official Cyanogen ROMs just to see if I like the UI better than Sense, but I'll probably just stick it out until I get a new phone.

[Q] Updating firmware after rooting/flashing rom

Bit of a noob question, but before I rooted/flashed custom firmware my stock firmware was 1.54.651.8. At some point I'm going to have to update it, so it works with new roms right? Also, how do I go about updating without loosing my root?

The devs of any rom worth flashing always incorporate the latest stock updates into a new version of their rom.
Most custom roms update monthly. HTC updates... what? Every 6 month?
Just stick with the custom rom you like and rest assured - your not missing out on anything the stock rom may have to offer. But if you feel the need, just RUU back to stock....

berndblb said:
The devs of any rom worth flashing always incorporate the latest stock updates into a new version of their rom.
Most custom roms update monthly. HTC updates... what? Every 6 month?
Just stick with the custom rom you like and rest assured - your not missing out on anything the stock rom may have to offer. But if you feel the need, just RUU back to stock....
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Thanks.