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Running AOSP kernels

Hi guys,
I'm running stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on my d2tmo Galaxy S3. When I look up kernels and whatnot, they are labelled many different ways. Some have JB in the name, some with AOSP in the name. I'm wondering: what types of kernels can I flash if I'm running a rooted stock ROM? I don't want to flash any custom ROMs because I'm a musichead and I like the stock music player
Thank you!

First of all you can get then stock music player with a custom rom
Second you can only run aosp kernels with an aosp rom. Aosp stands for android open source project. Aosp is not stock.
You can only use kernels labeled stock or touchwiz if you are using stock based rom
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3rd of all, what in the heck do you want? Haha, you say you are running a 4.1.2 rom (only aosp available on TMO) so AOSP... but you want a kernel for stock (4.1.1) touchwiz rom? The stock music apk is great and works on all stock touchwiz based roms, and in my resource guide I have a huge list of what is available and what is what, if the kernel says 4.1.1 TouchWiz then it is for 4.1.1 TouchWiz. if it says 4.2 AOSP it is for 4.2 AOSP, if it says 4.1 AOSP then it is for 4.1 AOSP... Look in my resource bible in my signature, or in the dev sections for [kernel].

See, that's where I get confused. Sorry for the noob questions. I've been looking around but can't find clear, precise answers.
I'm running the stock TouchWiz, out of the box, 4.1.1 Jelly Bean (updated while not rooted to 4.1.2). That stock ROM is not the same as an AOSP ROM or an AOKP ROM, is it? I have another Android device that runs CM10.1 so I know a bit here and a bit there about ROMs and whatnot, but I'm not so confident when it comes to my S3.
Simply put, I want to keep that stock ROM, but get a custom kernel, because the stock kernel SUCKS. I need to know what kernels I can flash, and clninja already said I can only flash kernels labelled stock or TW. Am I correct, so far?
Thank you!

Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:

There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
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kruse1944 said:
Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:
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That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?

seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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There are a couple of touchwiz kernal's around, Ktoonsez is one that I would recommend, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871946
Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.

mt3g said:
There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
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I see what you did there. :highfive:
seokhun said:
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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Most of the times when you flash a ROM that is built off itself, you can "dirty flash". Example--> That means if you are already on a RootBox Nightly 2/17 with a clean install and RootBox 3/6 comes out, all you have to do is wipe /cache and /dalvik-cache and then flash the new version of the ROM. If any bugs creep up, then if you dirty flashed, chances are that is why.
If you are going to go from a TWiz ROM to an AOSP/AOKP ROM then I suggest a full factory reset and wipe accordingly. That way you have a clean install.
Read the OPs of the ROMs
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Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.
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Yup. Thankfully my phone likes me, plus I kind of know what I am doing with regards to diagnosis.
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?

seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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You could install the update, but seriously I never do updates. I manual flash the whole new ROM. ( and I never had any accidents or bugs)
For the kernel, its was a example kernel chose the one you prefert ( THAT SUPPORT TOUCHWIZ STOCK ROM ) or just flash a new ROM with build-in kernel like the ParanoidKANGdroid 10.2 ROM !

I flashed the FrostyJellybean ROM with Xone kernel and it's been good so far. I'm a religious person when it comes to battery, but so far it's about the same as the normal drainage on the stock ROM, no noticeable improvements.
Another question (whoop): if I run a Nandroid backup, does that backup include the ROM itself? In other words, if I'm running the Frosty ROM, and there's a ROM I want to test, will creating a Nandroid include the Frosty, or will it just backup the system image excluding the ROM itself? I'm asking this because I have wanted to restore my Nandroids but didn't know if that backup may overwrite my existing ROM with the previous ROM.
Thank you guys for taking your time to help me out, I really appreciate it!
Woody said:
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?
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I have flashed a new ROM, so I no longer have the stock Build Number. It now says FrostyJellybean v11.6. I can tell you for a fact that I was previously running 4.1.1 rooted but without any customization or mod whatsoever outside the phone's original settings, so as stock as you can get.

A Nandroid is essentially a snapshot of your ROM at that point in time. You can back it up, try a new ROM and if you don't like it, then restore your Nandroid. A Nandroid should be done before you flash anything. You don't necessarily have to keep them all except your latest, but at least have one for when you try something out.
You can flash and restore just fine from ROM to ROM. Only thing is, you can't restore across platforms. Meaning, if you are on JB 4.1.1, you couldn't restore to ICS 4.0.4. Likewise you can restore a JB 4.1.1 if you are on a JB 4.2.2 ROM because of the file structure. There are ways to do it, but I won't go into that right now. Moral of that story is you can flash and restore laterally as far as builds go, but you cannot restore across different base builds.
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I just wanted to see your Settings>About Phone>Build Number because in your OP, you stated that you were running "stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean". We don't have a stock 4.1.2 ROM, so I was making sure you didn't have another phone. Sure, could be a T999 but there are Canadian versions out there that require different things.

Oh, about the Android version, yes, it's 4.1.1. I wrote 4.1.2 because I thought there was some stuff going on, like wireless and whatnot, and had previously read somewhere that 4.1.2 was rolling out and my phone was doing the "Android is upgrading" thing when it booted up and I didn't check the version before writing that. No worries, it was the stock 4.1.1.
Thank you so much for answering my questions, you guys are awesome!

Is anyone having issues flashing Aroma ROMs on 4.4.2 Rooted?

This is my device at this point:
1. Rooted 4.4.2
2. Stock T-Mobile ROM
3. I can flash SinLess ROM v2.1.2 with no issues after reboot
ANY Aroma ROM I try to flash (for example, DARTHSTALKER_NOTE3_V6), after reboot after installing results in a bootloop at the Samsung screen.
Are NONE of the Aroma ROMs not working on the T-Mobile Note 3?
I would really like to flash the DARTHSTALKER_NOTE3_V6 but can't if I can't get past the Samsung screen on a bootloop.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Darthstalker is a 4.3 base ROM. It won't work on a 4.4 bootloader, which is what you have if you took the OTA or flashed the Odin 4.4 package. It's not Aroma, it's just that most of the Aroma installer ROMs haven't been updated to 4.4 yet. And Samsung made the bootloader incompatible, so once you are on 4.4, you can't boot a 4.3 ROM.
Same with recovery. Make sure you flash 4.4 bootloader versions of TWRP/CWM or it won't boot.

so what IS a 4.4.2 with Aroma and NOT AOSP?
ttabbal said:
Darthstalker is a 4.3 base ROM. It won't work on a 4.4 bootloader, which is what you have if you took the OTA or flashed the Odin 4.4 package. It's not Aroma, it's just that most of the Aroma installer ROMs haven't been updated to 4.4 yet. And Samsung made the bootloader incompatible, so once you are on 4.4, you can't boot a 4.3 ROM.
Same with recovery. Make sure you flash 4.4 bootloader versions of TWRP/CWM or it won't boot.
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Thank you for the insight, I was seriously under the (wrong) impression that DeathStalker was a 4.4.2 ROM. I really didn't know.
IS there a list of 4.4.2 stock rooted ROMs with Aroma? You wrote "most of the Aroma installers haven't been updated to 4.4 yet." Which have? It's very confusing because honestly, i was looking and didn't see that DeathStalker was a 4.3 ROM. I went back and looked and noticed a bunch of JB stuff in the list of enhancements which gave it away.
Well, if anyone can suggest a good stable 4.4.2 ROM with Aroma and not AOSP, I want to keep the SPEN functionality that is still missing in CM. Although I do LOVE CM. Used it religiously on my S3.
thank you in advance.

I honestly don't know of any that have. Any reason you want an Aroma installer? It's not like you see it after the install is done. Most modded stock ROMs will list the "base" ROM they started from in the OP. Check that, and if it's a 4.4 base, it will likely work fine on your 4.4 bootloader phone. There's going to be a bit of a rough patch for a while as the ROMs get updated and users get updated. You just have to read up on each one to verify before installing. Just do a thread search for "bootloader" or "4.4" and read some of the posts. Chances are, it's been asked and answered in the thread if you look.
I'm just running a rooted stock build without Knox/CIQ, the stock ZIP that teshxx posted in the dev forum. Then just used Titanium Backup to un-install any bloatware I didn't want. Add a few Xposed modules, and it's a quite good ROM.
If you like CM, the SPEN does work. It acts a bit like a mouse. It's the built-in apps that don't work. You can replace the functionality of many of them. But if you really like some of them, that's not a great option. I ran CM/AOSP builds for a while, but decided the stability of a stock ROM was more important to me right now. I'll probably be back on CM after a while. I like the speed boost from the slimmer ROM.

Awesome reply
ttabbal said:
I honestly don't know of any that have. Any reason you want an Aroma installer? It's not like you see it after the install is done. Most modded stock ROMs will list the "base" ROM they started from in the OP. Check that, and if it's a 4.4 base, it will likely work fine on your 4.4 bootloader phone. There's going to be a bit of a rough patch for a while as the ROMs get updated and users get updated. You just have to read up on each one to verify before installing. Just do a thread search for "bootloader" or "4.4" and read some of the posts. Chances are, it's been asked and answered in the thread if you look.
I'm just running a rooted stock build without Knox/CIQ, the stock ZIP that teshxx posted in the dev forum. Then just used Titanium Backup to un-install any bloatware I didn't want. Add a few Xposed modules, and it's a quite good ROM.
If you like CM, the SPEN does work. It acts a bit like a mouse. It's the built-in apps that don't work. You can replace the functionality of many of them. But if you really like some of them, that's not a great option. I ran CM/AOSP builds for a while, but decided the stability of a stock ROM was more important to me right now. I'll probably be back on CM after a while. I like the speed boost from the slimmer ROM.
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What a thoughtful and excellent reply. Thank you very much. I'm looking at MyROM Revolution and may download that.
Honestly, I wanted Aroma because it seemed so much more customizable upon installation rather than taking the vision that a dev had for the ROM they created. I may well be wrong and thank you for the update on CM and SPEN, good to know. I just didn't check out the official CM thread as I had heard no SPEN support yet.
I'm running Sinless ROM and while good, it has a certain non-customizable feel to it. Just looking for something lighter, just not as light until everything is stable of CM.
thank you and if anyone has any suggestions for any 4.4.2 ROMs with (or without) Aroma please pass them on.
Is there a list of 4.4.2 ROMs that are compatible?

sanjsrik said:
What a thoughtful and excellent reply. Thank you very much. I'm looking at MyROM Revolution and may download that.
Honestly, I wanted Aroma because it seemed so much more customizable upon installation rather than taking the vision that a dev had for the ROM they created. I may well be wrong and thank you for the update on CM and SPEN, good to know. I just didn't check out the official CM thread as I had heard no SPEN support yet.
I'm running Sinless ROM and while good, it has a certain non-customizable feel to it. Just looking for something lighter, just not as light until everything is stable of CM.
thank you and if anyone has any suggestions for any 4.4.2 ROMs with (or without) Aroma please pass them on.
Is there a list of 4.4.2 ROMs that are compatible?
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Dude, you want the best customizable ROM out right now. Head over to the international forum for X-NOTE . Won't even tell ya just head on over you'll be surprised yourself m8
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X-NOTE? Where is it?
chuko303 said:
Dude, you want the best customizable ROM out right now. Head over to the international forum for X-NOTE . Won't even tell ya just head on over you'll be surprised yourself m8
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A few questions:
1. Where is the international forum for the Note 3?
2. Where can I find a link to the X-NOTE ROM? (I searched at the top-level of T-Mobile Note 3 forums and found nothing in results)
**UPDATE: IS THIS THE FORUM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
3. Is the international X-NOTE ROM compatible with the T-Mobile device and if so, what is lost/not working in the international version that exists in the T-Mobile version?
thanks in advance.

sanjsrik said:
A few questions:
1. Where is the international forum for the Note 3?
2. Where can I find a link to the X-NOTE ROM? (I searched at the top-level of T-Mobile Note 3 forums and found nothing in results)
**UPDATE: IS THIS THE FORUM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
3. Is the international X-NOTE ROM compatible with the T-Mobile device and if so, what is lost/not working in the international version that exists in the T-Mobile version?
thanks in advance.
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It's that one. N look at there questions&answers thread has how to flash it basically download wifi nfc blue tooth fix and wootevers kernel. Wipe of course. Flash rom(CSC is default and also choose NO kernel) one done go on and flash wootevers kernel then the wifi fix. Zip should be a go I did it reverse and wifi was bad flashed it again all gravy
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Oh also the side effect I had. It deleted everything in my internal so make sure you put the kernel and wifi fix on ext SD so you'll hace it available. You'll eventually get your pictures back and music too but not 3rd downloads from the net or apps like wallpapers of screen shots. Be aware

[Q] SGH T999 and Roms.

I had recently obtained a s3 its a T-mobile, its running 4.1.2, with the T999UVDMD5 baseband. I rooted it, flashed xposed(haha the only thing XD). Well, reading about/friends have said there was trouble with the 4.3 update so I decided to stay on 4.1.2.
However, now I've decided to flash a custom rom, and I have noticed the different labels(D2lte, D2tmo, D2usa) and I had read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736477 "As of right now, the roms for your S3 are not meant to be used on other S3 variants" .
I have a few questions:
1.There was a baseband update, should I update it? If so, how exactly?
2.Would it be wise to flash a D2lte on This T-mobile device? I was looking at Resurrectionhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692481(originally waiting on cm11 but.. Yeah lol)
3.Looking at KitKat rooms, which ones could I flash?
4.Would it be safe, if I did flash a 4.4.2 to restore a nandroid backup of my fresh rooted stock 4.1.2.
5.Lastly, what kernel would you say use?(Sorry to ask, curiosity as to which i could flash)
I appreciate taking your time to answer my questions and have a good day!

1) custom recovery.. There are zips available to flash
2) d2lte covers all d2 devices so its safe
3)Any on the development threads
4) Yes
5) like on 3, you can flash any kernel in the development threads, experiment and see which one works the best for you!
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Thank you! Time to get to work!

Ravenjolly said:
I had recently obtained a s3 its a T-mobile, its running 4.1.2, with the T999UVDMD5 baseband. I rooted it, flashed xposed(haha the only thing XD). Well, reading about/friends have said there was trouble with the 4.3 update so I decided to stay on 4.1.2.
However, now I've decided to flash a custom rom, and I have noticed the different labels(D2lte, D2tmo, D2usa) and I had read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736477 "As of right now, the roms for your S3 are not meant to be used on other S3 variants" .
I have a few questions:
1.There was a baseband update, should I update it? If so, how exactly?
2.Would it be wise to flash a D2lte on This T-mobile device? I was looking at Resurrectionhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692481(originally waiting on cm11 but.. Yeah lol)
3.Looking at KitKat rooms, which ones could I flash?
4.Would it be safe, if I did flash a 4.4.2 to restore a nandroid backup of my fresh rooted stock 4.1.2.
5.Lastly, what kernel would you say use?(Sorry to ask, curiosity as to which i could flash)
I appreciate taking your time to answer my questions and have a good day!
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To answer your questions:
1. You do not need to update your firmware - I'm still on MD5. Modems, however, can be flashed separately from firmware.
2. You can flash d2lte ROMs on this phone as it's all one unified build for US SGS3 variants. (I.e. T-Mobile/AT&T/Sprint/Verizon SGS3 is now all built under d2lte).
3. As far as which KK ROM to flash...just try them all out and see which ones you like the best. Each ROM has different features - see which one is right for you.
4. If you don't update your firmware, then yes. (FYI, flashing a custom KK ROM does not update your firmware. However, if you flash one of the 4.3 root66 files that has firmware included, then it will update your firmware).
5. Again, try it out. It's hard to say which ROM/kernel combination will work best. I suggest you read the forums to see what people think of them.
Hope that helps.

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No problem, and i forgot to say but the only time you might need to update modem is if you flash a 4.3 touchwiz ROM, other than that its not really needed unless you want to experiment and see if one gives you better results
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Oh, and one more thing: DO NOT flash a ROM that is for the international version of the SGS3 (i9300). It will, most definitely, brick your phone.
Don't know if you knew that or not...just wanted to make sure.

[Q] Where/Is there 4.4.2 stock rooted debloated etc? 210R

I'm new to the tab3 (210r) and checked out the roms and all that..
So I rooted got that all done but want to debloat, figured it would be easiest if someone has already done this and uploaded a rom.
The rom section is a mess. Anyone know the goto roms for this thing?
I'm cool with touchwiz or cm/aosp as long as its KK w/IR blaster still working.
Or whatever your favorite roms are, idk, seems most are outdated.
Thanks everyone!

No currently there isn't anyone on KitKat base.. Just tell me your Region(for the Rom) and I will debloat, root etc it for you! Waiting for your reply!

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No currently there isn't anyone on KitKat base.. Just tell me your Region(for the Rom) and I will debloat, root etc it for you! Waiting for your reply!
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What are you talking about??? There are 4 roms using a KK base that I know of. NoleKat, TranchidaKat, Dragon and Hassan Rom. All of which are stock based, rooted, and debloated to different levels and all will work on his T210R.
I recommend Nolekat (of course) and IR does work with it. The only reason I used the Italy firmware as a base is because it has more languages built in.

gr8nole said:
What are you talking about??? There are 4 roms using a KK base that I know of. NoleKat, TranchidaKat, Dragon and Hassan Rom. All of which are stock based, rooted, and debloated to different levels and all will work on his T210R.
I recommend Nolekat (of course) and IR does work with it. The only reason I used the Italy firmware as a base is because it has more languages built in.
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Thanks I flashed NoleKat and it was exactly what I was looking for,
Thanks for your suggestions. I will check the other ones out too, but I think this is the DD for the Tab3.

New here Looking for guidance on rooting and stable roms

New here Looking for guidance on rooting and stable roms

Rooting?
CF-Auto Root. Sprints NIE works on KK NK2 and LP OB7.
TWRP2 for recovery. Search TRLTE and choose Sprint version.
Stable ROMs. Check android dev section. As stable as any of them can get, its all up to the users on how they use their device.

Spark91 said:
Rooting?
CF-Auto Root. Sprints NIE works on KK NK2 and LP OB7.
TWRP2 for recovery. Search TRLTE and choose Sprint version.
Stable ROMs. Check android dev section. As stable as any of them can get, its all up to the users on how they use their device.
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Thank you will look for that appreciate your help.

think I am going to try the root today. i read the changelogs and what not can you still use your stylus with these roms?

youngcise31 said:
think I am going to try the root today. i read the changelogs and what not can you still use your stylus with these roms?
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Absolutely yes. If you flash a stock touchwiz rom then all original apps & features work just like original out of the box. If you flash a custom Cyanogen mod rom or other AOSP rom, then expect issues as these type of roms do not include all of the original samsung features, apps, etc. I'm assuming you want to remain on the stock Sprint Samsung rom so visit this thread and flash one of those stock roms first. But before you begin, you will need to read up on how to root your phone and flash the TWRP recovery. You must flash a custom recovery before you can flash a stock or custom rom. Just look around in the development forums and you will find all the information you need.

tx_dbs_tx, I'm in the same boat w/ 4.4 currently installed.
From what little I've read I'm thinking 5.0 might be a wait (reports of memory leak & battery issues) in hopes that 5.1 will be a better option as I don't have time to fight with those kind of issues right now.
My plan was to root 4.4 and stay there for the next few(?) months.
Am I misinformed?
Thanks!

Its been a fewyrs since i last rooted a device ( Evo4gLTE) and Im having issues trying to root my Note 4. Installed Lollipop only because I found multiple sources saying it can be rooted with lollipop, but everytime i try to use autoroot , which i got from this forum, Odin regognizes but wont flash when i hit start. Should I go back to KK and try again?? Maybe im doing something wrong but I watched videos and re read the tutorials and no luck. Ive checked and double checked im using the right md5 file . Help??

Cantin said:
Its been a fewyrs since i last rooted a device ( Evo4gLTE) and Im having issues trying to root my Note 4. Installed Lollipop only because I found multiple sources saying it can be rooted with lollipop, but everytime i try to use autoroot , which i got from this forum, Odin regognizes but wont flash when i hit start. Should I go back to KK and try again?? Maybe im doing something wrong but I watched videos and re read the tutorials and no luck. Ive checked and double checked im using the right md5 file . Help??
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Do u have the right file or a good download
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5.0 has no issues

tx_dbs_tx said:
Absolutely yes. If you flash a stock touchwiz rom then all original apps & features work just like original out of the box. If you flash a custom Cyanogen mod rom or other AOSP rom, then expect issues as these type of roms do not include all of the original samsung features, apps, etc. I'm assuming you want to remain on the stock Sprint Samsung rom so visit this thread and flash one of those stock roms first. But before you begin, you will need to read up on how to root your phone and flash the TWRP recovery. You must flash a custom recovery before you can flash a stock or custom rom. Just look around in the development forums and you will find all the information you need.
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Thank you I rooted. I used Cm12 seems not to be as many roms on here as I am accustomed to seeing been using htc for my last 2 phones. Thanks for the insight.