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Okay, so I was thinking about getting the EVO shift because I miss my rant but I refuse to get an Epic. Also, I realize I don't use the FFC or the kickstand. I love the camera and idk whether the evo shift has a worse or better one. I also want a faster device with better battery because no matter how hard I try I can't get good battery on the evo. I can't seem to get used to the size in my pocket but it would be cool if I had a leather case.
Anyway I just would like some insight on which is the better choice for me. I'm confused at how shift is faster w/less ram?
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Well the shift has a second generation snapdragon processor. It's more efficient. That's why its faster. Well if you like a slide out key board the shift will be perfect for you.
The EVO you wish you had
Well to your first question, the shift was a worse camera, 5MP compared tot he regular 8MP. The shift IS the evo...just a smaller screen, lesser camera, and an actual keyboard.
On the Evo i can go all day without charging, running CM7 with a savaged zen kernel.
I just don't wanna have to get an extended battery to enjoy my phone. It is big enough lol. I'm not sure about the camera but so far things seem like the shift is better for my preference. Do they have root yet?
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jacoballen22 said:
I just don't wanna have to get an extended battery to enjoy my phone. It is big enough lol. I'm not sure about the camera but so far things seem like the shift is better for my preference. Do they have root yet?
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yes they do, it was rooted on day one
I have a question about the shift as well, firstly doesnt the shift use a gpl instead of hardware for the graphics? Gpl should be smoother for scrolling if im not mistaken. I am probably going to get one because i am putting my parents on my plan and using my plan and giving my evo to my dad.
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my dad has had the phone for about two weeks and loves it. He has stated many times that he has never been happier. Though that is coming from a samsung moment. As far as root, they have released it, but it is very hard to do unless your good with rooting. My dad's phone doesn't even need the root because his phone is lightning fast and has very good battery life, about two full days on a charge. After all of that still love my evo, and the great developers for the evo. But if you want the keyboard. I would get the Shift, it just makes sense!!
So I am comparing this experience to the one I had with psp. The fatter one had more mods but wasn't as fast. The slim was faster and smaller with better battery. Especially if you used the bigger battery. The evo shift comes with the 1500 but I'll be using the 1800 and my 16gb card. Not crazy about the d pad thing but for having a keyboard its cool. So, any other opinions?
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So I am comparing this experience to the one I had with psp. The fatter one had more mods but wasn't as fast. The slim was faster and smaller with better battery. Especially if you used the bigger battery. The evo shift comes with the 1500 but I'll be using the 1800 and my 16gb card. Not crazy about the d pad thing but for having a keyboard its cool. So, any other opinions?
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I say stick with the big brother, how the Evo was meant to be. Pure awesomeness, not modded awesome for great.
I guess I would just need to find a way to better my battery life and processing speed. I'm on Myn's 2.2 RSL 5.
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You can always try setcpu or use a havs kernel; savaged zen kernels are nice
Do zen kernals work on myns?
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As far as I know and heard, they do.
Stock seems goood but I'll try zen.
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Whats more important, battery life or keyboard?
If its battery life I would try to figure out why your phones doesnt last all day.
If you want a keyboard, the switch is obvious.
Shift is a nice phone I got one for the wife. If you don't mind a smaller screen and you want a keyboard then its the way to go. Honestly though no phone is going to run 12 hours non stop and not kill the battery. The wife seems to make it through the day but if you run it like I run my EVO the battery last about the same. It's advantages are a more efficient processor and a smaller screen that would use less power because its smaller. It does run a solid 60 fps out of the box .
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Battery life is more important. I'm looking for 15 hours. Not continuous use but at least moderate. I need to work a whole day and the phone not be dead without having to turn off all the radios.
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jacoballen22 said:
Battery life is more important. I'm looking for 15 hours. Not continuous use but at least moderate. I need to work a whole day and the phone not be dead without having to turn off all the radios.
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I don't know what to tell you I get 12 hours out of my EVO with the radios on. Of course I don't leave the 4G radio on because I don't have service.
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I don't need 4g, it tends to waste my time and money even when I'm in Chicago to use it. I don't mind using juice to attain 15 hours but for done reason juice only gives me 1.08x.
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jacoballen22 said:
Okay, so I was thinking about getting the EVO shift because I miss my rant but I refuse to get an Epic. Also, I realize I don't use the FFC or the kickstand. I love the camera and idk whether the evo shift has a worse or better one. I also want a faster device with better battery because no matter how hard I try I can't get good battery on the evo. I can't seem to get used to the size in my pocket but it would be cool if I had a leather case.
Anyway I just would like some insight on which is the better choice for me. I'm confused at how shift is faster w/less ram?
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The shift has 2gb emmc/512mb ram, the evo has 1gb rom/512mb ram. So they have the same amount of ram. The shifts processor is clocked 200mhz less than the evo but because of the architecture, is going to be negligibly faster. You wouldn't notice.
I myself hate wear parts like trackballs, slide mechanisms, hardware keyboards... etc.
slide mechanisms and hardware keyboards, what is this 2004??
Just curious to see if any of you would trade your inc2 for a droid charge.
Why and why not?
Reason being is that I bought a charge, great phone good development (I'm not going to do a versus battle here they are both great phones but suited for different people) but it is just too bulky when in pocket for me at least so I'm thinking of maybe selling it and getting the inc2 or maybe just trading it with someone, of course it would have to be a local trade.
Let's hear it.
lol hell nah Charge doesn't have one AOSP GB. I got my SRSWOW sound so I don't miss Voodoo Sound that much either.
Samoled is overrated. I've used it for more than a year and I like the screen on Dinc2 better. You wouldn't see the true awesomeness of Samoled when the brightness is 100% but I would never use Samoled at 100% cause it's too bright.
Nope dinc2 does anything I need
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Nope dinc2 does anything I need
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Charge also does everything I need, I'm just not liking the bulkiness of it. I do like the size of the inc2.
I'd actually trade for a thunderbolt, mostly because it basically the same except 4g and screen size, AND ROOT! The battery life isn't a problem for me.
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Avelnan said:
I'd actually trade for a thunderbolt, mostly because it basically the same except 4g and screen size, AND ROOT! The battery life isn't a problem for me.
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Well the charge has root and SAMOLED screen which is a beautiful screen plus my battery lasts me all day without problems (I do not have 4g in my area so this is only in 3g and wifi). I don't know much about the TB but all I have heard is that battery life is horrible. Once again I thought about that too but it really comes down to the smaller phone.
Never. Having come from a Fascinate, I'd never own another Samsung, just too many issues and to me, the Charge is just too big. The Inc2 is absolutely perfect.
I would consider it as I'm not a fan of sense ui my whole thought process was root and Cm7 it but root is taking longer than I've seen on any device however I'm still very happy with dinc2 without root I am having withdrawals
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ChrisDDD said:
Never. Having come from a Fascinate, I'd never own another Samsung, just too many issues and to me, the Charge is just too big. The Inc2 is absolutely perfect.
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As far as I can tell there is no issues with the charge. All is smooth and and issues free with a custom rom, I never actually ran it stock.
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I would consider it as I'm not a fan of sense ui my whole thought process was root and Cm7 it but root is taking longer than I've seen on any device however I'm still very happy with dinc2 without root I am having withdrawals
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2.2 was rooted in 2 months...my Eris too like 6...for a locked bootloader I didn't have to wait that long...
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I'd actually trade for a thunderbolt, mostly because it basically the same except 4g and screen size, AND ROOT! The battery life isn't a problem for me.
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1000000000000000000000% agreed, I put a post on craigslist to try and swap somebody, but no bites yet
If I could get my Droid X back again. YES!!!
No I love the Inc2. My mom has the Droid Charge, and the roms and glitches in their GB roms are too much of a problem if I were to trade. Besides, the Inc2 is incredibly light, perfect screen and great roms!
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No I love the Inc2. My mom has the Droid Charge, and the roms and glitches in their GB roms are too much of a problem if I were to trade. Besides, the Inc2 is incredibly light, perfect screen and great roms!
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There are a few bugs on the GB rom but nothing too bad, and yes you are right the inc2 has a great screen size and weight. I run a lot and I usually have my phone in my pocket playing pandora so the charge big for sure.
Charge is a good phone when rooted with the ext4 lagfix. I love my inc2, but a Charge wouldn't be a bad phone for someone to pick up if they're into flashing ROMs and such
Stock to Stock, I'd take the Inc2 every day and twice on sunday.
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Charge is a good phone when rooted with the ext4 lagfix. I love my inc2, but a Charge wouldn't be a bad phone for someone to pick up if they're into flashing ROMs and such
Stock to Stock, I'd take the Inc2 every day and twice on sunday.
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This phone already feels as if there is a custom rom running on it. But I still want root. With the Fascinate, I was addicted to Odin and flashing every twice a week. That's what I want with this phone, and that's why I would only trade for a tbolt.
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ChrisDDD said:
Never. Having come from a Fascinate, I'd never own another Samsung, just too many issues and to me, the Charge is just too big. The Inc2 is absolutely perfect.
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+1
I love the build quality of the Dinc2. I too came from the fassy, it felt like a toy compared to the Dinc2.
VZW sent my Dinc2 with the extended battery... It adds a little depth, but man this thing can run forever.
When I was offered the trade in options, I actually asked for the Charge. The rep told me I would have to wait 2-3 extra days and he would call me back. This all went down on 7/28 - AFTER VZW pushed the OTA fix for fassy. I said screw it, send me a Dinc. Very happy with my decision.
I love mine but I'd trade today for a Charge for the resale & 4G!
But if I had Sense 3.0 or CM7...
It'd be a no go!
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I traded mine for a Thunderbolt, after the first week I wanted my Inc2 back.
The bolt is on Craigslist for trade. For some reason people keep thinking a Droid x would be a good even trade.
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The speaker phone of my Dinc2 really sucks compare to the Fascinate it replaced, we really need root for the GB 2.3, don't care about custom ROM but I want to use my Ti Backup Pro. LOL
Hey guys currently have a Droid charge. I have had an incredible in the past and am thinking of buying a incredible off Craigslist For 100 and selling my charge and eventually getting the Prime.
I have been very frustrated with the charge as It has very little development. Just looking through looks like the DINC has CM7 and tons more development.
Opinions anyone?
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Well, not knowing anything about the Charge, if you say that there's hardly any development for it...you know more than me there.
There's tons to choose from here, from Sense 1.0 to 3.5, still a solid phone. I'm sticking with my DInc until Feb, then seeing if there's anything that I want. Go with the DInc.
Would you guys get an incredible or incredible II? (yes I know there are newer phones) and why?
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Personally I would go with the dINC 1
Reasons:
1) Cheaper
2) Lots more mods to boost performance, battery, customization.
Reason for getting #2:
1) Better battery (maybe not, if compared to a dINC 1 with mods/kernels/etc)
2) Front facing camera
POQbum said:
Personally I would go with the dINC 1
Reasons:
1) Cheaper
2) Lots more mods to boost performance, battery, customization.
Reason for getting #2:
1) Better battery (maybe not, if compared to a dINC 1 with mods/kernels/etc)
2) Front facing camera
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+1 to this...
I've had both phones. Go with dinc2. It's much better. Amazing battery life compared to dinc
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[email protected] said:
I've had both phones. Go with dinc2. It's much better. Amazing battery life compared to dinc
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Thanks for your input guys!
Really? Are you talking stock or rommed? Are clock speeds and ram the same?
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Newest Google Map version 6.0 will have interior maps of shopping malls, demestic and international airports, etc....they have added Narita Airport.
Last year at Narita, i had to pay to use their wifi...regardless, a GSM world phone would eliminate that problem....
If you are lost at a foreign airport, the Incredible 2 will be the better choice.
I want to consider it because i do travel to Japan and other places, i dont get lost there though~ Might be handy for people combined w/ new google maps version?
The battery life in stock form is better on the inc2. With that being said I have cm7.1 nightly installed on my inc1 and its faster by a good bit then my bosses inc2. We get about the same battery life.
If it was up to me I would probably get the inc2, strip the fat from the stock rom and enjoy the front camera. Thats the one thing I miss about the bionic (which is sitting deactivated on my kitchen table), the camera. Just too many software bugs on it for it to be useable.
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I've had both phones. Go with dinc2. It's much better. Amazing battery life compared to dinc
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traitor!
If I could get AMOLED on the 2 then I would get a 2 but since I can't, I shall stay with my AMOLED 1. Nice.
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el6006 said:
If I could get AMOLED on the 2 then I would get a 2 but since I can't, I shall stay with my AMOLED 1. Nice.
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What? I thought dinc II was amoled.
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What? I thought dinc II was amoled.
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nope it's super LCD
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It's a close match after you dive into the modifications for each phone. Although the dINC 2 has a decent community, it has no where near the kernels, ROMs and support this one has. I'd say if price is any sort of factor than the dINC #1 is your choice.
If you don't care at all about price then you may want to go with #2 due to the slightly faster CPU, slightly larger screen, front facing camera, GSM capability, and possibly slightly better battery life (debatable after rooted mods).
If you like doing any sort of mods or customizations to your phone, dINC #1 is again your choice. #2 has a significantly smaller selection and less developmental support.
Don't let this phone being a bit older scare you away, it will easily stand for a few more years and still considered be a good phone to have.
so I guess it's down to what you have to spend and what you're really looking for.
My dad has the evo 3d and me and him are always clashing and im always looking for ways for my E4GT can win the battle lol.
I think Evo has it in battery life category, my dad just flashed a rom called mean rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466362
and that thing is amazing!
my question is, is the reason why our ics roms have terrible battery life because we dont have a official ics kernel from samsung?
i think you pretty much answered your own question
man eff the evo 3d! worst piece of crap EVER! NEXT THREAD!
I got decent life from FD26. It isn't quite as long as GB was but it's hard to really compare on a 3800mah battery. I still get all day and only need to charge if I rampage on my phone.
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I'm no evo fan either I just think it was pretty amazing that my dad gets 17 REAL hours of use without a charge
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My Mom is running the same rom. She can go 3 days without charging.
And thanks for letting us know the 3D is the worst piece of crap ever. Don't understand the immature posts some people give.
Back on topic, give it some time. When source drops there will be more development toward kernels. Not sure if we will see anything close to the rom on the worst piece of crap ever, but we do have some talented devs. Patience.
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3 DAYS?! I've always heard that the Evo 3D was a flop... but apparently not.
My experience with the 3D was not good, then again I didn't do any rooting or use any custom ROMs. My overall opinion of the phone was bad from the way it felt to the gimmicky 3D stuff.
But it's all a matter of preference. Some like HTC and remain loyal to them, others like and remain loyal to Samsung or Motorola, or Nokia or even Apple. Personally I'm loyal only to myself and will pick whatever phone I like best regardless of anyone else's opinions or experience.
Im a heavy user and when I had the 3D and a 3500 mah battery I could pull almost 2 solid full days.
It was a cool phone.
But the E4GT is much better IMO. Better screen, camera, processor etc.
Just my 2 cents.
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Agreed, I think our ET4G are the best on the market atm. Can't help but be envious of the battery life that the dev squeezed out of that rom. As far as my Mom's battery life, she has gotten 3 calendar days out of it. Not necessarily 72 hours. Not bad though. It keeps her on the android bandwagon instead of going to the dark side.
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My mom somehow pulls off 2 days without charge and it's on fd24
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thats cool, but if it's an evo3d it aint our fd24. unless im totally mistaken thats a build number specific to our device...
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thats cool, but if it's an evo3d it aint our fd24. unless im totally mistaken thats a build number specific to our device...
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I think he talking bout our E4GTs because nothing evo 3d related is called fd24
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I had the evo 3d with senseless rom and a 4000mah battery. I tried very hard to keep the screen on and use the phone till it shut off. Lasted 15hrs. With normal usage I charged it about every 2.5 days. I really enjoyed the phone whether it had 3d or not. It was fast and decent sized. The 3d was over rated and the rest underrated. I'd still have one if I could explain to the boss lady why I need a bunch of phones.
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She use e4gt (with normal stock battery btw)
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