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EVO shift? Or just preference?

Okay, so I was thinking about getting the EVO shift because I miss my rant but I refuse to get an Epic. Also, I realize I don't use the FFC or the kickstand. I love the camera and idk whether the evo shift has a worse or better one. I also want a faster device with better battery because no matter how hard I try I can't get good battery on the evo. I can't seem to get used to the size in my pocket but it would be cool if I had a leather case.
Anyway I just would like some insight on which is the better choice for me. I'm confused at how shift is faster w/less ram?
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Well the shift has a second generation snapdragon processor. It's more efficient. That's why its faster. Well if you like a slide out key board the shift will be perfect for you.
The EVO you wish you had

Well to your first question, the shift was a worse camera, 5MP compared tot he regular 8MP. The shift IS the evo...just a smaller screen, lesser camera, and an actual keyboard.
On the Evo i can go all day without charging, running CM7 with a savaged zen kernel.

I just don't wanna have to get an extended battery to enjoy my phone. It is big enough lol. I'm not sure about the camera but so far things seem like the shift is better for my preference. Do they have root yet?
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jacoballen22 said:
I just don't wanna have to get an extended battery to enjoy my phone. It is big enough lol. I'm not sure about the camera but so far things seem like the shift is better for my preference. Do they have root yet?
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yes they do, it was rooted on day one

I have a question about the shift as well, firstly doesnt the shift use a gpl instead of hardware for the graphics? Gpl should be smoother for scrolling if im not mistaken. I am probably going to get one because i am putting my parents on my plan and using my plan and giving my evo to my dad.
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my dad has had the phone for about two weeks and loves it. He has stated many times that he has never been happier. Though that is coming from a samsung moment. As far as root, they have released it, but it is very hard to do unless your good with rooting. My dad's phone doesn't even need the root because his phone is lightning fast and has very good battery life, about two full days on a charge. After all of that still love my evo, and the great developers for the evo. But if you want the keyboard. I would get the Shift, it just makes sense!!

So I am comparing this experience to the one I had with psp. The fatter one had more mods but wasn't as fast. The slim was faster and smaller with better battery. Especially if you used the bigger battery. The evo shift comes with the 1500 but I'll be using the 1800 and my 16gb card. Not crazy about the d pad thing but for having a keyboard its cool. So, any other opinions?
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jacoballen22 said:
So I am comparing this experience to the one I had with psp. The fatter one had more mods but wasn't as fast. The slim was faster and smaller with better battery. Especially if you used the bigger battery. The evo shift comes with the 1500 but I'll be using the 1800 and my 16gb card. Not crazy about the d pad thing but for having a keyboard its cool. So, any other opinions?
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I say stick with the big brother, how the Evo was meant to be. Pure awesomeness, not modded awesome for great.

I guess I would just need to find a way to better my battery life and processing speed. I'm on Myn's 2.2 RSL 5.
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You can always try setcpu or use a havs kernel; savaged zen kernels are nice

Do zen kernals work on myns?
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As far as I know and heard, they do.

Stock seems goood but I'll try zen.
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Whats more important, battery life or keyboard?
If its battery life I would try to figure out why your phones doesnt last all day.
If you want a keyboard, the switch is obvious.

Shift is a nice phone I got one for the wife. If you don't mind a smaller screen and you want a keyboard then its the way to go. Honestly though no phone is going to run 12 hours non stop and not kill the battery. The wife seems to make it through the day but if you run it like I run my EVO the battery last about the same. It's advantages are a more efficient processor and a smaller screen that would use less power because its smaller. It does run a solid 60 fps out of the box .
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Battery life is more important. I'm looking for 15 hours. Not continuous use but at least moderate. I need to work a whole day and the phone not be dead without having to turn off all the radios.
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jacoballen22 said:
Battery life is more important. I'm looking for 15 hours. Not continuous use but at least moderate. I need to work a whole day and the phone not be dead without having to turn off all the radios.
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I don't know what to tell you I get 12 hours out of my EVO with the radios on. Of course I don't leave the 4G radio on because I don't have service.
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I don't need 4g, it tends to waste my time and money even when I'm in Chicago to use it. I don't mind using juice to attain 15 hours but for done reason juice only gives me 1.08x.
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jacoballen22 said:
Okay, so I was thinking about getting the EVO shift because I miss my rant but I refuse to get an Epic. Also, I realize I don't use the FFC or the kickstand. I love the camera and idk whether the evo shift has a worse or better one. I also want a faster device with better battery because no matter how hard I try I can't get good battery on the evo. I can't seem to get used to the size in my pocket but it would be cool if I had a leather case.
Anyway I just would like some insight on which is the better choice for me. I'm confused at how shift is faster w/less ram?
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The shift has 2gb emmc/512mb ram, the evo has 1gb rom/512mb ram. So they have the same amount of ram. The shifts processor is clocked 200mhz less than the evo but because of the architecture, is going to be negligibly faster. You wouldn't notice.
I myself hate wear parts like trackballs, slide mechanisms, hardware keyboards... etc.
slide mechanisms and hardware keyboards, what is this 2004??

Would you trade your INC2

Just curious to see if any of you would trade your inc2 for a droid charge.
Why and why not?
Reason being is that I bought a charge, great phone good development (I'm not going to do a versus battle here they are both great phones but suited for different people) but it is just too bulky when in pocket for me at least so I'm thinking of maybe selling it and getting the inc2 or maybe just trading it with someone, of course it would have to be a local trade.
Let's hear it.

lol hell nah Charge doesn't have one AOSP GB. I got my SRSWOW sound so I don't miss Voodoo Sound that much either.
Samoled is overrated. I've used it for more than a year and I like the screen on Dinc2 better. You wouldn't see the true awesomeness of Samoled when the brightness is 100% but I would never use Samoled at 100% cause it's too bright.

Nope dinc2 does anything I need
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Nope dinc2 does anything I need
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Charge also does everything I need, I'm just not liking the bulkiness of it. I do like the size of the inc2.

I'd actually trade for a thunderbolt, mostly because it basically the same except 4g and screen size, AND ROOT! The battery life isn't a problem for me.
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Avelnan said:
I'd actually trade for a thunderbolt, mostly because it basically the same except 4g and screen size, AND ROOT! The battery life isn't a problem for me.
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Well the charge has root and SAMOLED screen which is a beautiful screen plus my battery lasts me all day without problems (I do not have 4g in my area so this is only in 3g and wifi). I don't know much about the TB but all I have heard is that battery life is horrible. Once again I thought about that too but it really comes down to the smaller phone.

Never. Having come from a Fascinate, I'd never own another Samsung, just too many issues and to me, the Charge is just too big. The Inc2 is absolutely perfect.

I would consider it as I'm not a fan of sense ui my whole thought process was root and Cm7 it but root is taking longer than I've seen on any device however I'm still very happy with dinc2 without root I am having withdrawals
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ChrisDDD said:
Never. Having come from a Fascinate, I'd never own another Samsung, just too many issues and to me, the Charge is just too big. The Inc2 is absolutely perfect.
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As far as I can tell there is no issues with the charge. All is smooth and and issues free with a custom rom, I never actually ran it stock.

mikeew83 said:
I would consider it as I'm not a fan of sense ui my whole thought process was root and Cm7 it but root is taking longer than I've seen on any device however I'm still very happy with dinc2 without root I am having withdrawals
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2.2 was rooted in 2 months...my Eris too like 6...for a locked bootloader I didn't have to wait that long...
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Avelnan said:
I'd actually trade for a thunderbolt, mostly because it basically the same except 4g and screen size, AND ROOT! The battery life isn't a problem for me.
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1000000000000000000000% agreed, I put a post on craigslist to try and swap somebody, but no bites yet

If I could get my Droid X back again. YES!!!

No I love the Inc2. My mom has the Droid Charge, and the roms and glitches in their GB roms are too much of a problem if I were to trade. Besides, the Inc2 is incredibly light, perfect screen and great roms!
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pinakaeus said:
No I love the Inc2. My mom has the Droid Charge, and the roms and glitches in their GB roms are too much of a problem if I were to trade. Besides, the Inc2 is incredibly light, perfect screen and great roms!
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There are a few bugs on the GB rom but nothing too bad, and yes you are right the inc2 has a great screen size and weight. I run a lot and I usually have my phone in my pocket playing pandora so the charge big for sure.

Charge is a good phone when rooted with the ext4 lagfix. I love my inc2, but a Charge wouldn't be a bad phone for someone to pick up if they're into flashing ROMs and such
Stock to Stock, I'd take the Inc2 every day and twice on sunday.

franklin270h said:
Charge is a good phone when rooted with the ext4 lagfix. I love my inc2, but a Charge wouldn't be a bad phone for someone to pick up if they're into flashing ROMs and such
Stock to Stock, I'd take the Inc2 every day and twice on sunday.
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This phone already feels as if there is a custom rom running on it. But I still want root. With the Fascinate, I was addicted to Odin and flashing every twice a week. That's what I want with this phone, and that's why I would only trade for a tbolt.
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ChrisDDD said:
Never. Having come from a Fascinate, I'd never own another Samsung, just too many issues and to me, the Charge is just too big. The Inc2 is absolutely perfect.
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+1
I love the build quality of the Dinc2. I too came from the fassy, it felt like a toy compared to the Dinc2.
VZW sent my Dinc2 with the extended battery... It adds a little depth, but man this thing can run forever.
When I was offered the trade in options, I actually asked for the Charge. The rep told me I would have to wait 2-3 extra days and he would call me back. This all went down on 7/28 - AFTER VZW pushed the OTA fix for fassy. I said screw it, send me a Dinc. Very happy with my decision.

I love mine but I'd trade today for a Charge for the resale & 4G!
But if I had Sense 3.0 or CM7...
It'd be a no go!
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I traded mine for a Thunderbolt, after the first week I wanted my Inc2 back.
The bolt is on Craigslist for trade. For some reason people keep thinking a Droid x would be a good even trade.
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The speaker phone of my Dinc2 really sucks compare to the Fascinate it replaced, we really need root for the GB 2.3, don't care about custom ROM but I want to use my Ti Backup Pro. LOL

Galaxy Nexus ruined Christmas....

Maybe I am ungrateful for making this post but I know I am not the only one who feels like this. About a month ago I was rock in a blackberry tour not because I couldn't get any other phone but because I was semi happy with it and no other phone period really had any affect on me.
Then one day I saw an epic touch in Craigslist for 200 and thought it was a scam but it was real. At first I had the phone. Its big, Los, battery, etc. Was gonna sell it for profit but I already sold my tour and the deal was just so good. Then started rooting and ics theme and tweaking made me fall in love.
Then got my gf a nexus s and put ics on it and it began. Then I went to Verizon and touched the galaxy nexus. It will cost me 1000 dollars to switch to Verizon with everybody. The physical of this phone to me is beyond any phone I have ever touched. Ice cream sand which is what android was always supposed to be.
Our screen is better in colors and our gpu is better and we have an SD card slot. But all that doesn't matter. Samsung will destroy ics with touchwiz and then the waiting game will start for a pure rom.
We all want the nexus lets just face it. The minute sprint has it most of you are gone like me.
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The only real life difference will be ics ... and its not worth $200 plus a wasted upgrade to me ... would much rather save it until quad core 2.0 GHz processors WITH ics come out like 3 months after it gets to sprint ...

Actually, I don't want a nexus, or galaxy nexus that is, with those ugly ass on-screen buttons. This phone is better IMHO. Now, if the SGS3 gets released with ICS, I will be even more sure I don't want the galaxy nexus. Touchwiz or no touchwiz. The S line is rock solid, and people that understand that, know that. (TMO's maybe not so much...)
But that's just me.
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Fataldesain said:
We all want the nexus lets just face it. The minute sprint has it most of you are gone like me.
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No sir, i do not. Love this phone, and will for a long while. I'd rather wait for a great ICS rom than jump to worse phone that has it now. But merry christmas!
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OP, speak for yourself but owners of the E4GT are smarter then just buying the same phone only with ICS. We need more of an upgrade.

xSaint21 said:
The only real life difference will be ics ... and its not worth $200 plus a wasted upgrade to me ... would much rather save it until quad core 2.0 GHz processors WITH ics come out like 3 months after it gets to sprint ...
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Yeah I know but physical design has to count for something. The nexus fits in the hand just right. Anyway I know its not that serious its just sad to see what HTC and Samsung will do to these phones. Give customers a choice. Most people won't root there phone.
Google has to stop selling out, yeah tons of people have android but probably 90 percent of them don't even know what android can really do.
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I can wait.
I need external SD support for my music and movies.
I can wait for devs to ready ICS ROMs, and replace TouchWiz with ADW.
The only thing I would like to have is the HD resolution, but again, I can wait.
My next phone will be a quad-core with HD resolution.
This will probably mean the GS III.

Hey we all can say we can wait but that's easy to say since you don't have a choice. When or if sprint gets the nexus then will see if you wait.
At the end of the day we still have great phones but don't act like the s3 is around the corner knowing sprint it will be September again. And we still don't know what the s3 will have.
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[email protected] said:
OP, speak for yourself but owners of the E4GT are smarter then just buying the same phone only with ICS. We need more of an upgrade.
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Sorry but I have ics on my ns4g and I would not trade this phone to the hardware inferior one just because of ics. I wasn't that impressed with ics. I'm running peter Alfonzo's ics nightly. Everything works on the ROM, so its not because something isn't working. Ics seems slower on the same phone versus 2.3.6. I'd rather take better performance over eye candy.

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Sorry but I have ics on my ns4g and I would not trade this phone to the hardware inferior one just because of ics. I wasn't that impressed with ics. I'm running peter Alfonzo's ics nightly. Everything works on the ROM, so its not because something isn't working. Ics seems slower on the same phone versus 2.3.6. I'd rather take better performance over eye candy.
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Same here. I am running aosp's v43 with Ezekeel's Glados kernel on my NS4G and I can wait for ICS on this phone. I have no desire to get the GN at all. From what I have read, the battery and performance is inferior. If people can't wait, there are a couple of great ICS themes to hold you over...
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Uh I have the galaxy nexus... and I'm returning it next week. It can't compare to the E4GT.
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LOL op. You said that we all want a GN. speak for yourself. To spend $1000 omto switch just to get a phone is crazy. So when you are rocking your gn ill rock my epic touch (which is better) then ill get the quad core SIII. Have fun with that.
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Sorry but I have ics on my ns4g and I would not trade this phone to the hardware inferior one just because of ics. I wasn't that impressed with ics. I'm running peter Alfonzo's ics nightly. Everything works on the ROM, so its not because something isn't working. Ics seems slower on the same phone versus 2.3.6. I'd rather take better performance over eye candy.
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We are not talking about the nexus s as I have tried all those rooms and they are slower because its still very new is it recall fair to compare it this early.
Second this phone the epic and nexus are pretty much the same phone but.
Nexus looks better feels better because its slimmer. On a design point it kills this phone ( this phone is nice too but nexus is an evolution of what phones will be )
And the most important thing is it is a nexus. Is anybody here looking for to touchwiz please tell me. Do you really want Samsung over Google. I trust Google is better with there own software os.
I can't even put a case on this phone or it feels like I am holding a brick. Sorry to say this because I like my phone but its design is like somebody ironed an iPhone flat. And with a case it feels like a HTC phone.
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From what I have seen I would have no reason to upgrade from my current E4GT to a nexus just for new updated software.

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Uh I have the galaxy nexus... and I'm returning it next week. It can't compare to the E4GT.
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You can't be serious, so you hate ics or something. I'm not saying this is a bad choice but wow.
I like Samsung making phones not skinning them. I don't even know why Samsung makes touchwiz besides to make people think its an iPhone clone. And now with ics why even waste manpower the best skin is already there.
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Fataldesain said:
Second this phone the epic and nexus are pretty much the same phone but.
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How are they pretty much the same phone? They are completely different:
Different shape
Different software
Different screen
Different camera
Different processor
Different GPU
Same manufacturer
The two phones couldn't be more different and I'm sorry but the E4GT is superior in almost every regard.
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musclehead84 said:
LOL op. You said that we all want a GN. speak for yourself. To spend $1000 omto switch just to get a phone is crazy. So when you are rocking your gn ill rock my epic touch (which is better) then ill get the quad core SIII. Have fun with that.
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That's my plan and probably more what "everyone else" will end up doing
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Fataldesain said:
You can't be serious, so you hate ics or something. I'm not saying this is a bad choice but wow.
I like Samsung making phones not skinning them. I don't even know why Samsung makes touchwiz besides to make people think its an iPhone clone. And now with ics why even waste manpower the best skin is already there.
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I love ICS, it's awesome. But its not enough to make me want to keep such a mediocre piece of hardware.
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musclehead84 said:
LOL op. You said that we all want a GN. speak for yourself. To spend $1000 omto switch just to get a phone is crazy. So when you are rocking your gn ill rock my epic touch (which is better) then ill get the quad core SIII. Have fun with that.
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Man you guys are loyal not one person feels this way. Or are you guys still convincing yourselves. I know I was there.
Only time will tell when sprint gets it and I see you guys posting over there in xda how you love your phone. Ilk make a note so I don't forget.
Anyway guys this is a great phone so don't think I'm just being a hater. Been using ics all week on nexus s and played with a few galaxy nexus's. I want ics just how it is but even if you give it to me on this phone will still want the nexus the slimmer profile, curved glass, 720p, onscreen buttons and its pure Google. I'm sorry but I can't defend the epic against that.
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Fataldesain said:
Man you guys are loyal not one person feels this way. Or are you guys still convincing yourselves. I know I was there.
Only time will tell when sprint gets it and I see you guys posting over there in xda how you love your phone. Ilk make a note so I don't forget.
Anyway guys this is a great phone so don't think I'm just being a hater. Been using ics all week on nexus s and played with a few galaxy nexus's. I want ics just how it is but even if you give it to me on this phone will still want the nexus the slimmer profile, curved glass, 720p, onscreen buttons and its pure Google. I'm sorry but I can't defend the epic against that.
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IMO it's not about being a "hater". Sure ICS is sweet, and it would rock to have a Nexus Galaxy, but to spend the cash(1k according to OP) just for a phone upgrade is something in the likes of greedy little kids with the latest toys. It just doesn't make sense given we all have great phones.
The specs on our phones are great, so unless someone can jump on for cheap it just doesn't make sense. If Sprint got it people might be more interested but paying ETF + whatever it'll cost is just silly to do for essentially an OD update.

Might trade my iphone 4 for this phone.

Does it still have the crappy signal/gps issues? I had it earlier this year and it was frustrating, so just want to see how things have been since then with all the updates and such....

gps sucks. it takes a long time to connect. and i have this issue where the phone fails to connect to 3g when 4g disconnects. super annoying.
get the sgs3 or evo 4g lte.

Umm no. My phone does not have those problems. Running aokp stable 4 with fh13 modem
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Umm no. My phone does not have those problems. Running aokp stable 4 with fh13 modem
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+1 mine doesn't either, of.course I never had LoS when the phone was new either like so many others did.
We are legion, for we are many.
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No GPS problems here. I get a lock in 5 seconds INDOORS and this was on touchwiz, cm9 , and jelky bean
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I don't have GPS problems, but the battery life has been pretty bad with the new ics update. It's no where near the life of gb.
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No GPS or LoS issues here running a stock ff18 Rom fg31 k/m. This phone is sick. :thumbup:
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too many variables to give you a answer lol.. ive hardly ever had any of ur issues but depends on the rom, kernel, modem, your area, and then some.. one thing im sure on is this phone beats any iphone in every way
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Keep the iPhone, easier to sell and retains value. And then buy GS3
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Never had a GPS problem anywhere indoor/outdoor. Even with my slow 3G speeds.
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I still dont know
You guys are all saying its works fine and like a million other people are complaining when I googled it lol. I'm just bored with my iphone 4 and my sister took my evo 3d, So I need something to get my android fix with lol.... no upgrade til december.

Having played with a galaxy s3 in the mall, I'd say go with that. Read that section in the forum to see what issues there are. After going from a 4s to the e4gt, I miss the 4s camera and the better quality sounding audio output. I've had this one for nine months now and the screen burn in is getting on my nerves. Going to pen tile displays was samsung's choice for screen lasting longer and less apt to burning. I didn't notice a screen door effect on the s3 either. Even though the cameras are virtually the same, I can see how having a faster focus helps in certain situations with the s3. Its low light is noisy though like lots have mentioned.

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You guys are all saying its works fine and like a million other people are complaining when I googled it lol. I'm just bored with my iphone 4 and my sister took my evo 3d, So I need something to get my android fix with lol.... no upgrade til december.
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Its the way things goes on in consumer world. More noise is created by people who's stuff is not working. I work for verizon fios and we only hear 5 to 10% customers call in to complain but some might come to wrong conclusion that fios always breaks. Thats how it is. I have had no issues with my e4gt. Love everything about it.
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Goodbye my fellow E4GT brothers and sisters

I have left the Epic 4GT for a Galaxy Note 2. Ever since ICS came out for the E4GT, it just ruined my phones experience. An update I was once so eagerly awaiting, turned out to be a Trojan horse (literally) in a frozen treats disguise.
After enduring countless frustrations (4G not working, crashes, unreliable wifi, horrible battery life, etc, etc, etc...) I left the device. After biting the bullet and paying an early upgrade fee, and selling my old POS E4GT back to Sprint, and all their other fees and bla bla bla, I paid $501.17 to get my new phone. (And that's after I got taken again by Sprint in selling them back my old E4GT for a measly $90)
Honestly, the phone was good until the update, and I suffered for months until I just couldn't bear it. And it sucked because I switched from AT&T after having the iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4. I was so happy to get my first Android phone, it was such a let down once ICS was pushed to it. The only good thing that came out of owning that peice of ****, was that I met some really cool, and amazing people on this forum that taught me a lot. Honestly, you guys were the ONLY good thing that came out of buying that phone. Aside from that, my phone experience was abysmal.
Now I wish you all luck, and I'll miss you guys. But I'll stop by from time to time to drop in and take a peek. I wish you all well, and hope to see you again in the future.
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Aww.
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Good luck bro! Best wishes to you. I have to agree as well, the ICS experience with this device ruined it for me as well. After using ICS on my current Galaxy nexus, i can see what real android is without issue.

Good luck. You probably could have gotten about $100 more if you had sold it on eBay.
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Shoulda flashed a new ROM, duh, You are on XDA right now...

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Shoulda flashed a new ROM, duh, You are on XDA right now...
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No offense to the devs but the roms right now for ics is still the same as the stock ics update just theme and modded but the super elestic scroll still there and well the battery well everyone uses their phone different so not to much tweaks will help. Aosp roms are the only best ones out for the e4gt but to me until JB source is out it isn't going to be a complete rom even though I notice chris and the rest of the crew are doing a great job but like the op I also got tired of waiting and got a note 2 yesterday and I must say its a better huge upgrade I dont regret it at all and this new touchwiz is the **** like I really love it.
Folks that think that the note 2 is not a big upgrade I disagree dont knock it till you try it cuz I think its a big upgrade and battery life is omfg amazing I got the phone with about 56% life on it and this is what I finished with so imagine at full charge .
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I had a pretty good experience with my Spring Galaxy S2 until recently. I never had any major issues on ICS except for bad battery life. When I needed my phone the most, during Hurricane Sandy, my battery began to swell and my phone would randomly turn off. I fixed this by buying a new battery but a few days later my power button crapped out. This phone was great for the first year but I think it's also time for me to jump ship to the Galaxy Note 2.

Now with that said, the Note 2 does look awesome. At least when I'm eligible for an upgrade, the Note 4 will be even cooler.
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mjs2011 said:
Now with that said, the Note 2 does look awesome. At least when I'm eligible for an upgrade, the Note 4 will be even cooler.
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Yea im pretty sure ill be hopping on it too lol
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Should have just flashed back to a el29 based from like calks or phantoms 4.1 and held out for the jb update. That's what I am doing.... really my only option less I wanna pay more for a service with data caps.
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I had the best battery life after the second OTA update on unrooted stock FH13. After I rooted my phone I couldn't find any ROM that had nearly as good of battery life. It used to last more than 60 hours on FH13 with very light use before I rooted it. Now I can only get around 50 hours on CM9 and at most 40 hours on JB ROMs, still on very light use. Not too bad I guess and at least I could modify a bunch of stuff when it's rooted.

yea Blazer or caulk was the Best Rom for Me On the e4gt IMHO. But me I Just Wanted Something New But to me The Way The e4Gt is going it Isn't Worth Staying on it for 2 years.
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I got a note 2.. But the epic 4G touch community is cooler and better
Hell I keep up with these forums more then the note 2 fourms lol:what:
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MiguelHogue said:
I got a note 2.. But the epic 4G touch community is cooler and better
Hell I keep up with these forums more then the note 2 fourms lol:what:
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It is cooler and better because theres no huge development community yet but if you look at it that phone really is too perfect unless you need root for small little things. I also still follow this community since I past this phone to my lil brother and I have to do everything for him when it comes to flashing and such but thats my only reason if not I'll be busy not following no community for the meantime and just enjoy the hell out of my note 2 since I really dont need much tweaks at all.
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mjs2011 said:
Now with that said, the Note 2 does look awesome. At least when I'm eligible for an upgrade, the Note 4 will be even cooler.
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I'm really torn between getting the Note 2 or waiting to see what's next. I would of rather waited a year but my E4GT is almost unbearable to use.

Idk why I can't quote your post but that is true
I know I've rooted mine already even though the phone was perfectas stock.. The unlimited multi view, youtube download, and getting rid of bloat had me sold
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faceyourfaces said:
I'm really torn between getting the Note 2 or waiting to see what's next. I would of rather waited a year but my E4GT is almost unbearable to use.
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I feel you on this and you should always consider the right move for yourself but some folks would be like meh e4gt to the note 2 really isn't worth it they rather wait but to me its worth it depending on the situation I have responsibility but heck when the s4 comes out and I want it ill just sell my note and put the differences its that easy for some folks and well it aint for others and those are the ones that would say meh its not worth upgrading from the e4gt to the note 2.
Once I saw lte in my area and it was being tested by my job and by my house I finally made the jump since lte is around the corner for my area and this device is pure beast and I dont regret it at all but if folks are used to wimax and not sure when they will receive it well its a different story but you just have to play your cards right when deciding to make a move.
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faceyourfaces said:
I'm really torn between getting the Note 2 or waiting to see what's next. I would of rather waited a year but my E4GT is almost unbearable to use.
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I myself was in the same situation kinda.. Torn to wait.. I myself just made the jump because everything is really a big waiting game with something new always coming out.. And after a while, in my opinion, the specs on these phones are just going to look good on paper.. A lot of apps don't even being to tap into the full capability of the phone .. That was my mind set so I just jumped ship since I missed out on the first note..
Just my thoughts
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You guys need to try lightweight and recalked. Best 2 Roms which are very close to stock and lightweight only themes the bare things. If you guys want to switch to newer phones, that's fine but don't blame the device and Roms available. It feels somewhat of an insult to all the awesome devs even though I know you guys don't mean it. Just my 2 cents.
Also almost every goodbye thread has some sort of complaint in it..
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BluesRulez said:
You guys need to try lightweight and recalked. Best 2 Roms which are very close to stock and lightweight only themes the bare things. If you guys want to switch to newer phones, that's fine but don't blame the device and Roms available. It feels somewhat of an insult to all the awesome devs even though I know you guys don't mean it. Just my 2 cents.
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Why should it be an insult to the devs? The devs wasnt the ones that had sent sprint this screwed up ics update remember it was samsung, the devs just been doing something they love and tryed to fix most thing's that sammy couldn't. I cant speak for all but my main turn off is the elastic super scrolling crap that to me its the biggest turn off and when i find something unattractive im sorry but I don't take one for the team lol. I know some folks got acustom to the fast scrolling since the leaks but for me its a big turn off when I go to sites or apps and when im really not flicking my fingers or putting to much pressure that damn thing scrolls all the way down when im really tryin to get to the center of the page and what not.
I really dont see it as an insult when the software of a rom these devs are working with is a crap that samsung decided to push out to this phone specifically I mean for some folks if you like what you use thats fine by me I just couldn't handle most things that used to bug me and im no rookie at flashing and such. If you really wanna see how crappy this ics update samsung gave this device check out the other devices that also recieve ics updates like the sky rocket they ics update is much better and the scrolling is much smoother and snappy like it really should be without that super quick scrolling crap that some folks actually call smooth lol thats my 2 cents.
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