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Ok,I'm new to Android, fresh out of Windows Mobile and might not know what I'm talking about, so... here we go,
I'm looking for my dream ROM, and kernel combination
Is there a ROM out there that has:
Delicious Froyo
4G Enabled
Can use Bluetooth controllers - (Wiimote, MSI BGP 100) [I guess that means it'd have to be Senseless?]
Retains its HDMI out functionality
Uncapped FPS
Over 2 multi touch points
Stability - Doesn't crash often
Decent Battery Life - (More than 5 Hours)
Swype Keyboard
802.11N Wireless Support Enabled
Overclocking support would be nice, but probably not necessary
I'm currently running Fresh Rom, but its starting to seriously lag after a few weeks of use, I guess its because of all the apps and widget mods I installed. And stupid Sense keeps starting up when I start my phone, even though launcher pro is my default home.
So I'm ready to flash another rom to have a clean start, now that I kinda know what I want.
There isn't a ROM with all of that
Looks to me like most (if not all) of the things you want to do can be done on Fresh. If it's lagging, wipe the caches using Amon and see if that speeds things up. I ran Fresh for a long while with no issues. For the past 3 days, I've been trying out the latest Baked Snack rom, and it's very good, too. The only thing I'm not sure about is the multi-touch feature because I haven't come across the need for it yet. I recommend you do the same thing I'm doing and everyone else does: Download them, flash them, keep them for a few days, and then try another rom. You'll be able to eliminate the ones you don't care for and then narrow down your choices. Do a search for multi-touch and see which roms have fixes for it, and try those out first.
or at least ava froyo v7, thats got everything working for me and use a kingsxkernel
I believe most of those are functional on most of the ROMs now. As far as swype keyboard, I think calkulins ROM (evio2) has that natively, or there's a new ROM someone else was working on that I think had swype listed, it was called echo5 ROM, I think. It's not on the first page, it was on the 2nd page last time I saw it.
The fps, overclocking, and >2pt multitouch are all functions of the kernel, I believe. And the 2 main kernel devs (kingx, and netarchy) support those functions in their kernels, which will flash on most any custom ROM
(I'm fairly new, from winmo, too. I was reluctant and apprehensive for awhile, but really starting to like Android, not to mention most the great devs from winmo are drifting to Android, or already have. Xda has made the transition that much easier)
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Like stated, any Rom can be anything. You can flash almost any kernel with any ROM..You can start with the stock ROM and flash what you want to get what you want...very customizable compared to WinMo.
That being said, I'm running Calkulin's EViO and love it. I can get almost 10th hours with heavy, heavy usage. With multitouch visualizer from the market, I can see 4 touch points. The phone is overlooked and fast as veal...never laggy. 4G works just fine. Lastly, the latest version has sense as an add-on, so no worries about it starting.
And, I have swype as an .apk if u want it.
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Thanks for the quick replies peoples, I went and wiped both cache, and the dalvik cache... even though I have no idea what the dalvik is, I'm using Anon Ra btw.
Calkulens Rom and a kings kernel sound like what I'm looking for, but what about the Bluetooth I know that sense based roms have corrupted Bluetooth settings, so no gamepad, are calkulins roms senseless? And work with wiimotes?
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VaelPak is the greatest. Just doesn't support bluetooth controllers but may be in an update soon
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Um no you can't flash kernels on most roms. They are either for sense roms or asop (senseless roms..cm6) you have to read the kernel thread... and swype you can install on any rom just search and you will find out the apk. For it. 4g doesn't work on cm6 so that's out the question then...
Most kernels are set to 1.19 to 1.22 top overclock.. setcpu is a paid app to over/underclock.. battery life there are a lot of things that causes bad battery. Bad reception, screen brightness, a app that keeps your phone awake, the settings of your CPU...etc...
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Like stated, any Rom can be anything. You can flash almost any kernel with any ROM..You can start with the stock ROM and flash what you want to get what you want...very customizable compared to WinMo.
That being said, I'm running Calkulin's EViO and love it. I can get almost 10th hours with heavy, heavy usage. With multitouch visualizer from the market, I can see 4 touch points. The phone is overlooked and fast as veal...never laggy. 4G works just fine. Lastly, the latest version has sense as an add-on, so no worries about it starting.
And, I have swype as an .apk if u want it.
10hrs of heavy use? Please explain heavy heavy use because I get 4 tops even with the battery trick.. btw I use a wall charger not the phone. I have tried about every rom including yours and what I call heavy heavy usage is non-stop on phone. I can be on here on full battery, txt and do research on phone and get only 4 tops. Even with underclock.. you use wifi during heavy usage? Stock battery?
Just don't believe 10 hours heavy usage...
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So that combination of Calkulin's Rom and King's kernel will not work?
And does Overclocking seriously affect battery life?
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So that combination of Calkulin's Rom and King's kernel will not work?
And does Overclocking seriously affect battery life?
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When you overclock your CPU is running faster than normal which in turn needs more juice... kind of goes hand in hand...
Yeah that should be fine. If I'm correct its a sense rom. When you look at a kernel you usually read what it has implemented and what your looking for in a kernel. They tell you which one its made for. Just was letting you know..
Also always do a nand backup in case of loops or anything goes wrong..
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Im looking for a stock rom with no changes to it that allows me to keep root. I Looked through all the older threads in development but it seems there have been updates and such. Right now I am running CM 6.1 and it seem my batt is dying way faster then it did on a stock rom. I'd like to compare them and such. If anyone has one or can point me in the right direction i'd be happy! Thank you!
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Im looking for a stock rom with no changes to it that allows me to keep root. I Looked through all the older threads in development but it seems there have been updates and such. Right now I am running CM 6.1 and it seem my batt is dying way faster then it did on a stock rom. I'd like to compare them and such. If anyone has one or can point me in the right direction i'd be happy! Thank you!
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Yes, I am experiencing higher drain as well. Search the development section for cr_mod, look for the CR_Mod OTA 1.35.something. It's the rooted stock ROM with a wireless tether built in, OTA update and all. That's what your looking for. I flashed dumfuq's OC 4.0 kernel over the stock ROM and got better battery life than the stock HTC kernel, so I also recommend doing that. I'm on cm6.1 stable now, so I can easily modify themes, since it's AOSP based, and also so I can use the gingerbread latin_IME keyboard, since you need at least froyo to do that.
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Yes, I am experiencing higher drain as well. Search the development section for cr_mod, look for the CR_Mod OTA 1.35.something. It's the rooted stock ROM with a wireless tether built in, OTA update and all. That's what your looking for. I flashed dumfuq's OC 4.0 kernel over the stock ROM and got better battery life than the stock HTC kernel, so I also recommend doing that. I'm on cm6.1 stable now, so I can easily modify themes, since it's AOSP based, and also so I can use the gingerbread latin_IME keyboard, since you need at least froyo to do that.
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Hey thanks! I went back for about 8 hours and hated it. Im back on CM 6.1 and im getting terrible battery life still. IDK, I am going to try and reformat my SD card and reflash at a full battary etc. I migh ttry the kernel, but, I really don't want any OC of any kind, just maybe a lower standby setting, something in the range of 50mhz while the screen is off or something.
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Hey thanks! I went back for about 8 hours and hated it. Im back on CM 6.1 and im getting terrible battery life still. IDK, I am going to try and reformat my SD card and reflash at a full battary etc. I migh ttry the kernel, but, I really don't want any OC of any kind, just maybe a lower standby setting, something in the range of 50mhz while the screen is off or something.
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I cant see how formating an sd card could help. Anywho, cm 6.1 has the oc kernal already built into it. You dont need to flash any kernals, just use setcpu to adjust the speed.
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Digitaldreamer7 said:
Hey thanks! I went back for about 8 hours and hated it. Im back on CM 6.1 and im getting terrible battery life still. IDK, I am going to try and reformat my SD card and reflash at a full battary etc. I migh ttry the kernel, but, I really don't want any OC of any kind, just maybe a lower standby setting, something in the range of 50mhz while the screen is off or something.
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50 MHz is too low. 245 is the lowest option
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I cant see how formating an sd card could help. Anywho, cm 6.1 has the oc kernal already built into it. You dont need to flash any kernals, just use setcpu to adjust the speed.
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I said try flashing dumfuq 4.0 over it because I THINK, not positive, but I was speculating that cyanogen had modified the kernel slightly that was causing a battery drain issue, because I stopped having so many issues with it when I flashed dumfuq's 4.0 kernel over it. Sounds weird, but it helped. I still have an occasional glitch where something is holding a wakelock on the system and it won't go to sleep, which is really annoying, and I think I traced it back to the music app, but still not sure there. I've been off of the charger for over an hour, with just 11 minutes of screen on and screen is 71% of the usage while cell standby is 11%, that's what makes me think flashing dumfuqs 4.0 fixed it. Cyanogen must've made a modification.
So, also @ the OP, go into spare parts battery history and see what is using it. If "running" is up above like 30 or 50% then you have something holding a wakelock, go to partial wake usage, and look at the app or UID that's got the wakelock. Rebooting normally gets rid of the lock for me, like I said, haven't quite figured it out yet.
Hey guys im curious is there anyone who has been able to fully replace EC05 roms with one of the gingerbread roms availalbe? And in doing so keeping the stability, battery performance, and speed of the EC05 roms? I've personally gone from an amazing experience with ACS SFR 1.2 to Ginger Bamboozled and ERA hurricane rom and personally have not seen any benefits with keeping gingerbread. I notice no battery improvements and the phone has slowed down significantly. The only plus i've seen with gingerbread is the cool CRT off animation. Note i've never run the commands to stop processes that update in the background i.e. DRM and SNS, which from what I read make a fairly big difference with getting better battery life on EH17 roms. So at this point I'm thinking of going back to SFR 1.2 or another EC05 rom. Is there someone out there that can give me some useful tips on how to make the Gingerbread roms run smoother for me or am I just wasting my time? Also I used to get random Reboots on Gingerbread but i've noticed that it has stopped, odd. Oh almost forgot I use my keyboard all the time for writing emails for work and not having the skipped letters fix is so annoying. I want to shoot my phone sometimes.
Have you tried Spare Parts and setting all animations to FAST in it? I am on Bonsai B14 EG22 and my phone is about as fast as it was on EC05 ROMs. I do stop all processes when I first boot and have a few frozen with Titanium.
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Have you tried Spare Parts and setting all animations to FAST in it? I am on Bonsai B14 EG22 and my phone is about as fast as it was on EC05 ROMs. I do stop all processes when I first boot and have a few frozen with Titanium.
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I don't care if that does anything for the actual speed or not...its a hell of a placebo effect. Another thing is you could oc with tegrak
As of right now, I don't see any advantage of using a Gingerbread Rom. I was in the same boat as you. I tried a few of them but due to the random reboots and keyboard skips, I couldn't take it anymore. I'm now using the Epic Revolution Rom and I love it. I won't be going back to Gingerbread till the official release.
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Depends on the apps you have
I'm running the ERA OLYMPUS 1.6 EH06 ROM. I hoard apps and that's really bad for performance of the device and battery. I haven't frozen the SNS/Updates but I freeze the DRM every time I install a ROM anyway. I just managed to get all the apps that like running in the background to not do that by messing with the settings and clearing widgets. I can now last at least 5 hours on battery while actually using the phone. My battery life has been about the same on every ROM I've ever used. I would say to try this ROM with Journaling enabled and running Chris' new EH17 Plus kernel. I am also using the EH17 modem. Everything is working pretty well for me now.
No good reason to keep the leaks. However, if you are converted to ext4 and use the v6 supercharge script its as smooth and responsive as sfr 1.2 at 1.4ghz.
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I've been dealing with the same dilemma the past week. I've found that there's really no pros to keeping the gb roms. Although I really like the theme on bamboozle as well as my quadrant stats. Speaking of which, can anyone tell me where I can get the SII lockscreen that comes with bamboozle? It's definitely my preferred lock screen. If anyone can help that'd be awesome thanks!
Thanks for good responses
Thanks guys for all the feedback, I think i'm being swayed more towards the EC05 roms until the release of gingerbread source files. I think the biggest thing now that look at it is the keyboard letter skips. I rely on my phones keyboard far to much to write really fast work emails and no matter how I setup my virtual keyboard or auto correction on TouchPal keyboard or Swype, its just not accurate enough and I waste more time trying to fix the auto corrections. Thanks again everyone and I really hope this thread assist others with making a their choices on which Rom to Choose or which version of Rom to choose. Froyo here I come.... now i gotta figure out if I want to go with Era or ACS lol.
In my opinion, no. After trolling all around using GB Leaks I finally came back to Froyo (Bonsai 4.1.3) because of the stability and speed.
I think its best just to wait for something official when it can be polished and tweaked with.
I too have been up and down the development pages, trying out different roms an modems, froyo and GB. Froyo was cool when i was using it, but I like the way GB looks. I actually had more problems with the Froyo roms than with GB roms, but that could be bc im getting better at rooting.
Right now im running RandomROM 2.3.4 on the EG22 modem with generation x theme. I get a couple of framework fc's throughout the day, but it doesnt seem to actually fc anything. I seem to just get the notification. battery life is amazing. I used to have to charge my phone after only 6 hours, even with light use. Now I dont need a charger until the end of the day, even with moderate to heavy use. I even use it as my wifi at home for xbox and whatnot. Touchpal's hardware prediction is pretty cool, although I havent really noticed much key skipping without it. I'm still new at rooting, so I don't do too much with oc and such.
I get about twice the battery life using RandomROMs hawk v4 vs any of the ec05 builds. Haven't experienced any TV's yet and only one random reboot after running the v6 script.
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Lol that's funny(x
You realize there's an "edit" option right?
And lol @ "TV's"
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ac16313 said:
Lol that's funny(x
You realize there's an "edit" option right?
And lol @ "TV's"
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Yeah I know. I tried editing it a couple different times but for some reason it wouldn't let me submit. And I didn't realize that fc's auto corrected to TV's lol.
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Yeah I know. I tried editing it a couple different times but for some reason it wouldn't let me submit. And I didn't realize that fc's auto corrected to TV's lol.
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Haha funny stuff
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Hi all,
I'm a new Nexus user and I was just wondering what is currently the best ROM and Kernal people are using. I put Android Revolution HD on my Nexus a few days ago and it's running great. I keep hearing people talk about Cyanogen or the Franco kernal though.
Are the performance improvements that much better, or should I stick to Revolution? I don't require a lot of personalization in terms of how things look. I'm quite happy with the stock look of the phone. I just want all the "behind the scenes" improvements like better battery life and loading times. What's the best setup in your experiences?
Thanks!
I've played around with several of the roms and kernels, with mixed results. It seemed like some roms and kernels would get me crazy performance, but really crappy stability.
The setup I'm running now is a cleanly wiped install of GummyNex 0.8.1 found here, or more directly here OnDemand governor is giving me respectable battery life. When I'm running short, I'll switch to Conservative. I've been meaning to set something up in Tasker or Setting Profiles to do it for me.
And Google apps found here, also more directly here
The kernel I run is Trinity, found here
If you haven't done so already, I found awesome performance improvements by opening the egl,cfg file in /system/lib/egl/, and deleting the first line- usually "0 0 android". Then going back into the egl folder and deleting both the .bak file some editors create, and the "libGLES_android.so" file. This is an ICS tweak that alleges to eliminate CPU rendering. I know there's an option in developer tools to "force GPU rendering", but apparently that doesn't quite cut it.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents, and it's blazing fast and stable. Averaging around 3800 in Quadrant.
Thanks! Revolution HD already does GPU rendering so I'm not to worried about that. I guess I'll just stick with that since it's basically stock with a few performance tweaks. I'm not big on instability :/.
The Trinity kernel looks interesting though... Is the overclock safe though? And does it drain a lot of extra battery?
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Thanks! Revolution HD already does GPU rendering so I'm not to worried about that. I guess I'll just stick with that since it's basically stock with a few performance tweaks. I'm not big on instability :/.
The Trinity kernel looks interesting though... Is the overclock safe though? And does it drain a lot of extra battery?
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Revolution HD is based on 4.0.2 so many kernels will not work because they are based on 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. I highly recommend you use a rom that is based on 4.0.3 AOSP (Such as GummyNex or AOKP). 4.0.3 has better stability/battery/performance tweaks anyway. If you want a better selection of Trinity's kernels go here. TNP1344-ANY-384-aelp (dated Feb 27th) is really nice. If it gives you bootloops up the voltages by 50 or 100.
aokp.27 + glados.v.1.18 OR leankernel.v.2.4.0 (both are stable as a rock)
Alright, I'll try Open Kang I guess. I'm so new to this... Sorry for all the questions :/.
It seems like a hassle to reinstall all your apps often so that you can switch to a new ROM . Does this need to be done every time the device changes its firmware version?
Luuthian said:
Alright, I'll try Open Kang I guess. I'm so new to this... Sorry for all the questions :/.
It seems like a hassle to reinstall all your apps often so that you can switch to a new ROM . Does this need to be done every time the device changes its firmware version?
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Well... you can always backup your apps with Titanium Backup, and save all your preferences (such as Nova Launcher, Minimalistic Text, etc.) and then reload that. And usually if you stick one one Rom and then an update comes from that rom, you don't have to wipe data (just cache & dalvik cache). But if you're switching Roms, then yes, you have to reinstall all your apps.
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Alright, I'll try Open Kang I guess. I'm so new to this... Sorry for all the questions :/.
It seems like a hassle to reinstall all your apps often so that you can switch to a new ROM . Does this need to be done every time the device changes its firmware version?
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with titanium pro its a matter of minutes, saves your app-data also, so you don't loose your highscores. but as was mentioned before, updates go through without factory-reset most of the time once you're settled.
btw, aokp is perfectly stable.
I'm running gummy with the latest lean kernel and love it. Battery life is great and performance is top notch. Big fan of team gummy. I get a solid full days use regularly. usually around 20% when I plug it in after 16 hours of use and I use it fairly regularly, wifi, 4g, txt, web, etc.
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I am trying to flash my Inc with a new ROM for the first time, but it seems like more than half the ROMs on this page are either removed by the developer or cant be downloaded because the download links are dead.
Any tips on what to try first, based on what available still? The only thing I am concerned with is that the ROM is stable and compatible with as many of the stock functions as possible, stuff like broken radios is not what I am looking for right now. Would be kinda cool to try one as different from stock as possible. Does CM7 work well on the Inc? I keep seeing people talking about stuff that is broken with it.
Miui 2.3.2
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Ice Cream Sandwich. Abduction by Hanger84 is smoother than the Sense ROMs.
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Abduction is good to try if you want to experice ice cream.... but prepare for some bugs and missing features ( ie Camcorder, camera, & flash on websites and netflix) I suggest one of the gingerbread Roms or Froyo Roms. CM 7 or 8 should be fine, but you loose some of the things you may be accustomed to in Sense (Widgets). But there are pretty good apps that can do what sense does, you just have to look for them.
I'm using CM 7.2 RC1 (RC2 crashes right away for me) with latest ICS Incredikernal and SmartassV2 governor, fully over-clocked. Never crashes, everything works but, of course, 720p recording. I even found decent settings for auto-brightness (Make about 16 levels, start out at ~70, go up in ~5 point increments, then increase. Set Window Length to 5 secs). I have tried three ICS roms but always went back.
I'm using the new Go Launcher but it has a couple of bugs. Clear its data to get the large icons if you are stuck on small. To change settings on the large weather clock you have to do it via the small weather clock.
I use CyanogenMod 7.2. Along with Chad/Tiny's Incredikernel, Jermaine/Tiny's EXT4All mod, and Launcher Pro. Speedy and battery efficient. The latest RC should be fine, I'm on one of the nightlies and have been using Pons' KANGs when his computer was still working.
In addition to Sonny Sekhon's Ice Cream Sandwich CM7 Theme.
If you like the stock ROM, and want something stable and based off of it, Liberation 3.0 is a good choice. It is basically a rooted, debloated, stock ROM. I keep a copy on my SD card incase I need access to EPST or just feel like using Sense.
ICS is getting there, but the laggy animations and general speed have kept me away. It seems to me that the current hardware acceleration isn't 100% implemented. But I have never used ICS outside of the Incredible. So I don't have room to compare.
I'm with the majority here. CM 7.2 RC2 is great. I actually have stock kernel though, I am not sure if performance is better with incredikernel but I can tell you that CM7 is TONS better than stock in terms of battery life, customization, and overall android experience. I like sense but on the Inc, it's like they stopped trying...
P.S. - I also use GO Launcher EX with kovdev's ICS theme.
Well I just switched from Abduction to CM9 and so far CM9 is much better!!
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Well I just switched from Abduction to CM9 and so far CM9 is much better!!
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See if Youtube works. Didn't for me. I ended up using the Go Launcher anyway so the experience was the same for me. There weren't as many stock apps like Car Home and the music widget is not the big one. Things like Phone and Calculator open slowly. Never did crash tho or even lag.
Hi, I am new to XDA and was looking for some links to the cm9 rom for DINC. I am currently running aokp_inc_build-25 and its nice but I have had some issues with it specifically with the camera not working properly.
Thank you in advance for the assistance.
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See if Youtube works. Didn't for me. I ended up using the Go Launcher anyway so the experience was the same for me. There weren't as many stock apps like Car Home and the music widget is not the big one. Things like Phone and Calculator open slowly. Never did crash tho or even lag.
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I use a app called play on for YouTube Netflix and a lot of other video sites.. yea the camera fix seems to break playback on YouTube.. but I'm optimistic that those issues will be worked out since cm9 is still in development. What I love is that every feature u find in other Asop roms u can get apps that do that... so u can customize it better for your own personal taste and still have better stability!!!!!
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Ok before I started getting replies here I dl'd Touch of Blue and Stock+, tried ToB for the week and it was ok but started to crash and lag a lot. The latter may have been due to my SetCPU settings, I dunno, but it was getting hung up on simple apps, and I did not like a couple things about it, like getting calls when the screen is off required you to unlock it, then unlock it again at the receiving call screen. Also didnt like the battery meter.
Just installed Stock+ and immediately realized it wouldn't work at all when I saw that the App Data partition was still at 150MB. Thats the whole reason I rooted, so there is no way I am using a ROM that is eventually gonna give me the Low space messages again.
GOnna try the ones you guys suggested now
I like Wildstangs stock ROM, and gtiny's kernel. I used root app delete to debloat it. And run the on demand deadline settings and can go 11 hours on a full charge with heavy use.
I also like the last stable release of CM7.1.0 it is smoking fast and way less issues then the nightlies or kangs to me.
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CM7.2 couldn't figure out how to add my Google account. Also couldnt disable the camera shutter sound.
Tried Liberation but the App Data partition is still only 150MB; as soon as I restore my apps its gonna be out of space again.
ALL ROMs for the Incredible are going to have a 150 MB data/data partition. It's the way HTC made it. The only way around it is with the EXT4All mod. More information here. The file you're looking for to remove the limit is "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip".
And there is an options in the CM7 sound settings to disable the shutter sound. Called "Mute camera shutter".
Ok I found the camera sound setting, thanks. Any advice on getting the Google account to work? The Account settings were trying to setup an email thing, not my Google account
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Figured out that I need to flash the Google apps pack on CM7 to get that all to work, but ClockworkMod kept failing to mount the pack when I tried to install it. Now I am back on Liberation, because at least here I have my Google account with contacts, but I cannot get the EXT4 fix to work. I download it, open it with Clockwork, tell it to reboot and apply, but it fails to mount it, just like the Google apps pack problem. Using Clockwork 5.0.2.0