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Anybody Returned to Stock after trying different mods and Kernels? Tell us about it.

Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.

Sounds like you're overall not happy with your experience.
If all of these cool tweaks are making it so you can't regularly use the phone like you like it, just return to stock. Its not worth sacrificing your enjoyment of the phone just to get some cool tweaks.

Problem is.. I dont really remember how its to run a stock phone. :S

same here..i also would like to go back to stock..

jeck025 said:
same here..i also would like to go back to stock..
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Then do it! No one's stopping you. There is no shame in returning to stock lol. Its okay.

I want back to stock for a day and changed my mind.... main reason that I don't like the stock is lack of toggles and overall smoothness. Oooo and you have no idea how often I use search icon on navbar . Also this is my main way of communicating with people. Voice actions are brill testing and calling is very easy with this. Someone will say that I can do that from search bar .... yes but 9 out of 10 times I'll miss tapping the icon ....
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Did I return to stock? Well, after successfully compiling my first ROM (AOSP 4.0.3) I found out that my backups were deleted so I had to reflash some stock images from Google. I'm having enough fun playing with the phone on my own...I can be patient to see what improvements other ROMs come up with.
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I am running AOKP MS3 and have been flashing the latest Franco kernel. I had the same issues as you and a full wipe and reflash solved all of those issues. Hope this helps you!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

Malarie said:
Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
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1. I use juice defender too and I NEVER saw it getting killed. The settings do reset everytime you flash something even if you don't wipe cache but that's the developer's problem no the roms/kernels. The solution is simple : just backup your settings from JD's status tab and restore it after you flash zips in recovery.
2. Well known issue with m3. there was a fix zip floating around but you should just update. m3 is not anymore stable than the newer aokp builds. b26/27 are very stable but just wait a few days and m4 will be out for sure.
3. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying you can't hear the music at 100% volume? Does it go away with stock kernel? then it might be franco's volume hack. Try leankernel 2.4 if you want something lean, fast, with GREAT battery life and without all the extra bells and whistles. you need to go to rootzwiki.com to dl leankernel.
4. You don't need to undervolt with gnexus and even if you do, it's completely pointless. It causes instability and the battery savings are negligible.
5. Wipe data and cache and flash leankernel 2.4 and aokp b26 (or m4 when it comes out). You'll lose all your settings but I think this combination will keep you happy for along time.
6. I used JD Ultimate for a long time and after a lot of testing on leankernel 2.4, I find it completely redundant.

I'm back to stock (stock launcher too).
It's because I've never had any real problem with stock in the first place. No battery drain, no dropped calls, no sluggish interface and everything works. Then the most important thing is I LOVE the simplicity feel that stock offers so I've decided to go back to stock.
Nothing against custom ROMs.

This is why after you root its always good to Nandroid your stock rom.
The only thing i like about stock is that i know its not going to fail me and i know i dont have to always mess around with tweaks and other things.. it just does what it was meant to do..
Custom roms seems to always have problems with different kernels or maybe the ROM is just in beta.. or a tweak is causing something else to break..
But we also have some good custom roms base off of stock with nothing too much added.. like Android Revolatuion.. No diss towards other roms tho.. just people dont want to always have to change or fix something

Malarie said:
Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
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It all comes down to personal choices really.
To me i tried AOKP rom with Franco kernel and it really rocked. But then i went back to stock since 4.0.2 with XXKK6 gives me good battery life and its rock stable.. no issues. i do have to give up a lot of customizations but i can live with it. no problem.
The reason i don't want to install custom roms yet is that i would go crazy with flashing roms and it would be addicting so right now i just want to stay away..i would get bored after trying all new roms.. so right now STOCK.. just want to savour the beautiful Galaxy Nexus as is.

I went back to stock on Sunday. I was checking to see if wallet would work on stock but it didn't. When it booted up stock the first time I was like:
http://troll.me/images/snape-dafuq/dafuq-is-this-****.jpg
When I got my phone it was stock for about 5 minutes. AOKP FTW!

Confused. You can run ROMs with the stock kernel. IMHO, stock kernel> any custom kernel. My experience, custom kernels create different problems.
Kernel enthusiasts tend to be a little... too enthusiastic. They tend to ignore the problems and measurebate about supposed battery life or performance.
My best combination is AOKP ROM for the features and stock kernel with a couple performance tweaks in the developer settings.
Now I just go about using my phone to enhance my life rather than the other way round.
YMMV, and it is your life, of course.
Sent from the Galaxy Nexus far, far away.

liverstealerJobs said:
Confused. You can run ROMs with the stock kernel. IMHO, stock kernel> any custom kernel. My experience, custom kernels create different problems.
Kernel enthusiasts tend to be a little... too enthusiastic. They tend to ignore the problems and measurebate about supposed battery life or performance.
My best combination is AOKP ROM for the features and stock kernel with a couple performance tweaks in the developer settings.
Now I just go about using my phone to enhance my life rather than the other way round.
YMMV, and it is your life, of course.
Sent from the Galaxy Nexus far, far away.
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I agree 100%.

I never had any issue with AOKP. But I use stock kernel. Custom kernels are for those who can live with a phone not working 100 % and alarm clock fail to ring in the morning. If you want the best of the best for the Gnex, flash AOKP, and nothing else. And don't mess with performance settings.
And btw. The only ROM that ever randomly rebooted on me, was stock ROM. How is that for a laugh?

Stop using Juice Defender. It sucks or it has some serious bugs on Nexus I don't know. Stock everything I had juice defender on and strange things were happening. Touching screen would do nothing, apps would close on their own. When I took it off everything was fine again. Juice defender was recommended to me by someone else. So oh well, seems he was luckier than me running it. Fast forward a week, I got interested in ROM's, now running AOKP with Fugumod kernel and thought hmm maybe give juice defender another shot. Within 1 day I removed it. AGAIN, apps crashing, touches not being recognized, slowness switching screens. I say Juice defender stinks or has lots of bugs. My battery life is just fine with AOKP and Fugumod. Right now my Nexus is perfection. I can quickly get in and out of apps and there is no slowness or anything. I can't see myself ever going back to stock.

I'm running stock 4.0.4 with no issues.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

I'm debating going back to stock.
Came from 4.0.2 stock to AOKP 1-30 milestone + franco.
The new ROM is nice and all, but like every 15-30m I get randomly disconnected from the network and takes 15s to reconnect. It's semi-tolerable but I hate things like this.

why was music app missing from AOKP rom Milestone 3? who do you get it back?

[ROM] ICS 4.0.4 (IMM76D) Stock, rooted, busybox, battery%, deodexed (4-12-12)

This is 100% stock, rooted Ice Cream Sandwich I've made for myself and thought I would share. Contains su, busybox, nano and bash binaries.
Link:
IMM76D stock rooted busybox (odexed)
IMM76D_stock_rooted_busybox_deodexed v2 (No Battery% or Softkey Mod)
IMM76D_stock_rooted_busybox_deodexed v2 (includes Battery% and Softkey Mod)
Changes v1:
Deodexed
Optimized the system for much smoother UI
Updated Apps:
Market
Gmail
GoogleEarth
Maps
Added Apps:
ChrometoPhone
GoogleDocs
GoogleGoggles
GoogleVoice
GoogleWallet
Changes v2:
Fixed issue with OS being laggy especially in Market.
Stock launcher 270 degree rotations by me.
Better transitions when rotating 180 degrees (more ipad like) by me.
1% Battery increments by he_stheone64.
Themed softkey buttons with ICS stock blue by atticus182.
Themed the rest of the UI so older older apps can have ICS theme (by unknown, didn't get the name. If you know who created let me know so I can credit them)
Removed: (why make it bloated?)
ChrometoPhone
GoogleDocs
GoogleGoggles
GoogleVoice

Oh dear, It's the great news. So, could you let me know where's the link or attached file...

gordon6 said:
Oh dear, It's the great news. So, could you let me know where's the link or attached file...
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Whoops! forgot to add the link..

Good, exactly what I was looking for.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..

Nikos_s3 said:
OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
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+1

Nikos_s3 said:
OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
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nenil said:
+1
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Thanks guys. I ended up getting an iPhone for about a year. It was a great phone but boring due to having no customization. This is my 2nd day with the Galaxy Nexus and I love it. Android has really come a long way since I last used it.
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Hi Geo411m,
Thanks for your effort, just like to confirm that is it a CWM flashable zip?
Thanks~!!

Well, I ran into a few issues at first. It didn't have any APNs, but I reset APNS to default then restarted the phone and all is well now.
So far so good, no real issues now that it's up and running. Thanks!
And yes, it's flashable via CWM.

thanks kitinas.

damn, I'm forced to login/create account with 4shared now? bah..
nevertheless, thanks for sharing

Kitinas said:
Well, I ran into a few issues at first. It didn't have any APNs, but I reset APNS to default then restarted the phone and all is well now.
So far so good, no real issues now that it's up and running. Thanks!
And yes, it's flashable via CWM.
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Did you wipe caches after install? This rom was created using the system image directly from google and therefore should work exactly as OTA. Not sure why the apn weren't there on first use.
kwazi said:
damn, I'm forced to login/create account with 4shared now? bah..
nevertheless, thanks for sharing
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I wasn't aware of the 4shared issue. I haven't done anything with android for about a year and don't know of other hosting.

Stock or AOKP
Receiving my brand new NEXUS tomorrow. Need to make a decision whether to go with stock ROM vs AOKP.
My history has been HyperDroid CM7 on an HD2 so i am on completely new ground. Can any and all give me your top 10 reasons to go either way?...........

universed said:
Receiving my brand new NEXUS tomorrow. Need to make a decision whether to go with stock ROM vs AOKP.
My history has been HyperDroid CM7 on an HD2 so i am on completely new ground. Can any and all give me your top 10 reasons to go either way?...........
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In my opinion I feel stock (with a few tweaks) offers more stability. I've seen too many AOSP give lots of FC/crashes and I rather have a working phone then have it crash while outdoors and you have to wait to get home to fix it.

My experience in Stock tells me, you can only be with stock for so long...
...till you get frustrated enough to
first - atleast change the Kernel (go for franco kernel, one of the best out there). that makes things a bit snappier, has much more tweaks under the hood for battery life, wifi et al
Then, second, figure out how many more features are available in ROMs out there instead of stock. Once you find that - it is very difficult to stick to stock. Try APEX which is a very generic rom and keeps best features of most of the ROMs out there.
So basically, take it easy, and enjoy the ride ... (or enjoy the bumps first then figure out a way to sail smooth!)
You wont like the smooth sailing of a beautiful rom and a kernel out there, till you've had it rough enough on stock. I just used the rom in this thread, and my phone went down by atleast 30% in terms of performance.
Its much more sluggish, feels heavier, and a bit jerky through the menus. Even when I have almost no apps installed!
I was much better on a 4.0.3 bigxie Apex rom (extremely stable) and franco kernel - extremely fast! blazing.
Stock cant even hold a candle infront of this combination, and I'm talking about 4.0.4!!

GPS lock on this stock image is a 1000 times better than CM9. wtf??

robbiev80 said:
GPS lock on this stock image is a 1000 times better than CM9. wtf??
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I've always had 5-10 second lock on CM9; seems like mileage varies for some people for some reason or another.

dhruvraj said:
My experience in Stock tells me, you can only be with stock for so long...
...till you get frustrated enough to
first - atleast change the Kernel (go for franco kernel, one of the best out there). that makes things a bit snappier, has much more tweaks under the hood for battery life, wifi et al
Then, second, figure out how many more features are available in ROMs out there instead of stock. Once you find that - it is very difficult to stick to stock. Try APEX which is a very generic rom and keeps best features of most of the ROMs out there.
So basically, take it easy, and enjoy the ride ... (or enjoy the bumps first then figure out a way to sail smooth!)
You wont like the smooth sailing of a beautiful rom and a kernel out there, till you've had it rough enough on stock. I just used the rom in this thread, and my phone went down by atleast 30% in terms of performance.
Its much more sluggish, feels heavier, and a bit jerky through the menus. Even when I have almost no apps installed!
I was much better on a 4.0.3 bigxie Apex rom (extremely stable) and franco kernel - extremely fast! blazing.
Stock cant even hold a candle infront of this combination, and I'm talking about 4.0.4!!
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I just updated the ROM with a much more optimized system. Let me know how it compares to AOSP.

May I know what did you do to optimize the system? Deodex is to make it slower so I'm wondering what are other tweaks you included that make it different than say ARHD 3.0.

bigeyes0x0 said:
May I know what did you do to optimize the system? Deodex is to make it slower so I'm wondering what are other tweaks you included that make it different than say ARHD 3.0.
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I don't know what's in ARHD to compare. I made lots of changes to the build.prop for increased performance and made changes to the system to make android take advantage of the Nexuses GPU for better performance.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5

Phone is bogging down, anyway to make it faster or should I downgrade to GB?

I finally rooted my desire Z a couple of weeks ago after deciding I've had enough of the poor performance and Sense always having to reload after I exited an app.
So I installed AudacityB5 rom and at first it was looking good, good performance, pretty snappy! ALOT better than my old stock htc sense.
But now after having installed alot of the apps I used to have plus a few new ones(aorund 34 total) i'm noticing a drop in performance, not so fast and snappy all the time and the launcher have had to reload a couple of times...
So I have contemplated if I should just downgrade to GB to see if that helps or is there something I can do to improve performance on my current setup? (cause I really like the look and feel of android 4.0)
EDIT: I searched a bit before this and I've been reading about v6 supercharger and multitasking mods and whatnots... can anyone explain to me what this is all about?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187

Thanks! I actually spent the last half hour reading up on that rom and came to the conclusion that it might be what I was looking for. So I will try that soon!
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2

So, I've been using the mimicry rom for a little while now and it's a definite improvement I'd say.
But I am experiencing an annoying fault, and I'm not sure if its the mimicry rom or a fault with ICS itself. But I can't download or receive mms even though apn settings are ok. Now I can't even send mms... Any help as to what might be wrong?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=163373682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=163373840

Yeah read all those threads, nothing helps, does jellybean experience the same problems? I'm gonna try a sense rom and a JB rom and if none of those helps its back to cm7 I guess...
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Have used flinnys jellybean build now, and at first it was the same problem there, unable to send mms, but then i just chose "reset to default" or something like that and anfter that it has worked.
Are these settings stored in the sim card or does the phone download them from some place or what? Because the apn settings are basically the same as what is on my providers (OneCall) website except for the apn names which is the same as the network name, "networknorway"
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Try Flinny Andromadus CM10.1 (jellybean 4.2.2). I highly recommend it, it transforms the phone. Lots of new features plus it's faster. DL the latest build here: http://andromadus.flinny.org/?q=node/34

remiks3 said:
Try Flinny Andromadus CM10.1 (jellybean 4.2.2). I highly recommend it, it transforms the phone. Lots of new features plus it's faster. DL the latest build here: http://andromadus.flinny.org/?q=node/34
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Yeah, I've been using build 20 since friday now, it does seem faster than build 19, still some lag from time to time but then again it's an old phone so

I'm in a similar situation to the OP, wondering what settings and modifications I can enable/install to get some extra performance out of my Desire Z. I'm running Flinny's Andromadus CM10.1 Build 19 (updated from a fresh install of 17 w/ full wipe, unsure whether that matters) and while it's certainly useable I often find my phone slowing to a crawl or throwing me "Application Not Responding" notices, sometimes even locking up to the point where the screen is stuck on black and battery removal is required. So far the only settings I've changed are the CPU min/max, currently set to 368 and 1200 respectively using the Interactive governor.
I've read through multiple threads with multiple suggestions and conflicting opinions, so I wanted to check here before doing anything drastic. So far I've seen suggested:
• Increasing VM Heap size (not sure if this would positively or negatively impact performance considering the Z's limited RAM)
• Creating a swap partition on the SD card
• Forcing 2D GPU rendering
• Setting a limit of ~2 for backgrounded apps (tried this, but didn't remember setting on reboot)
• Using a utility to move apps to the SD card
• Enabling Kernel Samepage Messaging
• Changing the I/O Scheduler (not sure what this would really do, or which one would be best for performance)
...so which ones do I do? All? None? Play around and see what works best for me? I really don't care about multitasking all that much, all I'm looking for is a more fluid UI and less application lags/lockups/freezes.
Thanks in advance for the help, by the way! I've become very attached to the hardware of my Desire Z and would like to get as much use out of it as I possibly can.

I know reducing the number of background processes to 2 or 3 makes the phone supper snappy for me. Without that I'm experiencing the same issues as you are. However, this setting causes certain background processes to halt and hence background notifications from apps such as facebook might simply seize to function properly.
I've been struggling with the issue of responsiveness, apps not responding, sluggishness, etc. ever since I started flashing custom ROMs on my G2 (so basically since day 1, somewhere in 2010). Alas, setting the hard, low limit for background processes is the best workaround I managed to find so far. I tried Supercharger (helps just a tiny bit), creating a swap partition (makes the phone even slower), kernel samepage messaging (no difference), changing VM heap size (no difference), and other possible solutions and hints I found here and there.
Cheers

tommern said:
I finally rooted my desire Z a couple of weeks ago after deciding I've had enough of the poor performance and Sense always having to reload after I exited an app.
So I installed AudacityB5 rom and at first it was looking good, good performance, pretty snappy! ALOT better than my old stock htc sense.
But now after having installed alot of the apps I used to have plus a few new ones(aorund 34 total) i'm noticing a drop in performance, not so fast and snappy all the time and the launcher have had to reload a couple of times...
So I have contemplated if I should just downgrade to GB to see if that helps or is there something I can do to improve performance on my current setup? (cause I really like the look and feel of android 4.0)
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Actually, regarding the downgrade, I did it and I am very impressed with the result, a fresh install of CM 7.2: Looks great, is really lag-free and responsive. I don't feel I have lost anything significant by not having the latest Android. Maybe this is also going to change over time, but for now it looks like something to be recommended.

yahya69 said:
Actually, regarding the downgrade, I did it and I am very impressed with the result, a fresh install of CM 7.2: Looks great, is really lag-free and responsive. I don't feel I have lost anything significant by not having the latest Android. Maybe this is also going to change over time, but for now it looks like something to be recommended.
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I have considered it a lot recently!! Performance has been very sluggish, but I just upgraded from b20 to build 21 of flinnys 4.2, and wow, I'm seeing around 80-115mb of free ram, we'll see how it holds up over the next few days :fingers-crossed:
If it gets laggy again I'll probably downgrade too...

stable aosp rom?

hi all.
tried a few aosp roms. all great. just some annoying random reboots. im not a heavy customizer. i just like the feel of vanilla android. and also i like smaller dpi settings. currently running ptmr3's jedi rom. excellent rom, havent experienced any reboots. though its a nice rom, i like aosp roms. any out there without random reboots?
also with the kitkat update our note3 is getting, will future roms be more random reboots less or none at all? im suppose to meet someone this coming wednesday to trade my note3 for his nexus5. or should i wait til new roms are cooked up based on the kitkat update for better aosp roms?
also trying to figure out how to remove this damn widget on lockscreen. cant seem to get rid of it.
thanks all

simpl3lang said:
hi all.
tried a few aosp roms. all great. just some annoying random reboots. im not a heavy customizer. i just like the feel of vanilla android. and also i like smaller dpi settings. currently running ptmr3's jedi rom. excellent rom, havent experienced any reboots. though its a nice rom, i like aosp roms. any out there without random reboots?
also with the kitkat update our note3 is getting, will future roms be more random reboots less or none at all? im suppose to meet someone this coming wednesday to trade my note3 for his nexus5. or should i wait til new roms are cooked up based on the kitkat update for better aosp roms?
also trying to figure out how to remove this damn widget on lockscreen. cant seem to get rid of it.
thanks all
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I've been on the unified Note3 CM11 builds and have been enjoying them quite a bit. The only reboots (and lockups) I got were from tweaking my CPU settings...apparently the only parameter that was pissing my phone off was the conservative governor. Also clk_min won't stay at the floor...but aside from slightly compromised battery life CM11 has been near perfect. I'll take the very slight battery life reduction for AOSP...also, the ART runtime is wayyyyyy better than Dalvik. Worth it for that alone. I just enabled that "for good" today but I already expect enough battery life savings to make up the difference (which was admittedly small).
Performance is top notch (even when underclocked to 960mHz), the ART runtime seems to make scrolling, chrome, maps and all around navigation snappy as hell...and I don't have to deal with TWiz. To each their own, touchwiz ain't for me. All the important stuff appears to work (LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera, 1080p video recording...I can't even remember the things I used to worry about...everything works fine, even the 'settings bug' is resolved now...)
YMMV, of course.

daneurysm said:
I've been on the unified Note3 CM11 builds and have been enjoying them quite a bit. The only reboots (and lockups) I got were from tweaking my CPU settings...apparently the only parameter that was pissing my phone off was the conservative governor. Also clk_min won't stay at the floor...but aside from slightly compromised battery life CM11 has been near perfect. I'll take the very slight battery life reduction for AOSP...also, the ART runtime is wayyyyyy better than Dalvik. Worth it for that alone. I just enabled that "for good" today but I already expect enough battery life savings to make up the difference (which was admittedly small).
Performance is top notch (even when underclocked to 960mHz), the ART runtime seems to make scrolling, chrome, maps and all around navigation snappy as hell...and I don't have to deal with TWiz. To each their own, touchwiz ain't for me. All the important stuff appears to work (LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera, 1080p video recording...I can't even remember the things I used to worry about...everything works fine, even the 'settings bug' is resolved now...)
YMMV, of course.
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Thanks. I will try it out after i play around with gummy. Yah im not a fan of touchwiz either. How do i enable ART? i have never tinkered with that. Also regarding cpu tweaking. I dont really bother with that and i still get reboots and lock ups. Most times i just leave the kernel that came with the rom alone and not change it.

im a flashoholic. & i truley hate touchwiz roms. but ive been a week on AOSB v1.30 (longest ive ever stayed on one rom lol) its smooth & zippy, it has some amazing battery life. also vanir isnt a bad rom.
also switching runtimes is available in developer options under "apps"

r333xxh4v0k said:
im a flashoholic. & i truley hate touchwiz roms. but ive been a week on AOSB v1.30 (longest ive ever stayed on one rom lol) its smooth & zippy, it has some amazing battery life. also vanir isnt a bad rom.
also switching runtimes is available in developer options under "apps"
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thanks. i only had my tmo note3 for about two weeks now. the AOSB v1.30 is not on the TMOBILE NOTE 3 development threads (i did find it). are we allowed to use those roms for our tmo note3? is there anything special i need to do to install roms from there?

simpl3lang said:
thanks. i only had my tmo note3 for about two weeks now. the AOSB v1.30 is not on the TMOBILE NOTE 3 development threads (i did find it). are we allowed to use those roms for our tmo note3? is there anything special i need to do to install roms from there?
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The AOSB rom is a universal. Just flash rom + gApps & you're set to go!
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WOW. i think i just found me a stable rom to use. installed and been running this rom for more than an hour now with all my usual tweaks and apps installed. and so far no reboots. usually on other aosp rom, i would have had a few reboots already. this is awesooooome. well besides the fact that app settings (xposed) doesnt seem to work since temasek integrated his own lcd density changer on the settings menu. also he just announced yesterday that he is putting his development on hold (temporarily, hopefully). damn!
temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM11 BUILD
so far loving it. will update if any issues occur
peace

simpl3lang said:
WOW. i think i just found me a stable rom to use. installed and been running this rom for more than an hour now with all my usual tweaks and apps installed. and so far no reboots. usually on other aosp rom, i would have had a few reboots already. this is awesooooome. well besides the fact that app settings (xposed) doesnt seem to work since temasek integrated his own lcd density changer on the settings menu. also he just announced yesterday that he is putting his development on hold (temporarily, hopefully). damn!
temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM11 BUILD
so far loving it. will update if any issues occur
peace
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temesek is very nice work, glad to hear you found a rom!

Hype, Forget, Stay...

...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!

Kustaa said:
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
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I agree with the problems you mentioned and i do want speed, stability and smoothness.
I noticed those things when i first upgraded to KK.
To overcome those challenges, i tried all the roms (CM Remix, Cm11, PA, Omni, Omni FML, geyers, AOKP, etc..) with stock kernels and then with DIRTY V and Fancy.
More ram is available with dirty v, fancy and stock PA kernel.
Afterall, i choose my personal set up which is smooth and stable for my device. i am satisfied with it now.
With Android you always have a choice of tweaking, upgrading or downgrading from JB > KK. so choose whats best for you :good:

Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.

hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!

hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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try the paranoid 3.99 based on 4.3
I remember it was really smooth

Kustaa said:
As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
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I agree with you on everything you said. I think I even went back to CM 10.X (not sure the exact one), but it was much better than anything I had before. I am on PA 4.44 and my data loses connection often and not sure why. The version of CM though, I would put it on airplane mode and my battery would still be drained the next day when other versions I didn't have that issue. That's one reason I went to another ROM, but it appears I am just going through ROMS like crazy trying to find the one I like most. To me...battery life is the most important.

decisions.
when i stopped using google framework with all those apps you dont have to use...
i found my battery lasting much longer
setting my kernel to lazy...while turning up voltage and over hertz. gives it enough speed...with enough "crash"
to stay up for 3 to 4 days, just sitting there
and 1 to 2 while in normal use.
and using up my data....well no one is going to get much up time like that