New Ask Ziggy Update Just Released (Updated 3-2-12) - Windows Phone 7 General

(UPDATED 3-2-12 -The all new and improved Ziggy coming in a few days! And it's awesome! Click here to watch the video.

sinister1 said:
I just got my Ask Ziggy Update, checkout Market Place on your phone.
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Is that 1.3? I just updated something last night! :s That will be rapid development!

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Is that 1.3? I just updated something last night! :s That will be rapid development!
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Yea. Updated to 1.3 as well. Don't see much difference other than the icon change.
The tile also looks different (plain)

It looks like the one they are posting on YouTube as 1.3 with the different icon and the blue background but if you go to about Ziggy at the very bottom it still says version 1.0.0 LOL.

I don't think it's the same as 1.3, at least it doesn't appear to be.
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Hum, so what does 1.3 look like?

WTF
Okay, hate to sound like captin kill joy but the new Ziggy just failed the text test, I tried it like 5 times and nothing; it just thinks and freezes up, it doesn't even speak or tries to give a web result or anything. I read the instructions that say that the contacts must be set up an the phone which they are. I used the default TellMe feature on the phone and it works WTF Anyone else experince this?

According to wpcentral, the update was just a UI refresh and some bug fixes...version 1.3 is still coming soon .
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Ziggy isn't doing so great for me.
I say "what is 5 times 5"
It comes back with "What is what is 5x5"
next box says 5 + 5 = 10
So, it got the syntax right and then processed it wrong.
Earlier, was saying "I have something for you. ...... "
which would take me to a Bing search for 5 x 5.
I repeated the test
What is 5 x 5
It responded out loud "It's 0"
Definately some bugs need to be worked out.
What is 4+5 returns "What is 4+5" and a second box with the answer "4 - 5 is equal to -1"
Oddly, if I say what is 0 plus 5 plus 5, it gets it right.
It always processes my speach correctly, but Ziggy doesn't always do the the right thing with what nuance responds with.

JVH3 said:
Ziggy isn't doing so great for me.
I say "what is 5 times 5"
It comes back with "What is what is 5x5"
next box says 5 + 5 = 10
So, it got the syntax right and then processed it wrong.
Earlier, was saying "I have something for you. ...... "
which would take me to a Bing search for 5 x 5.
I repeated the test
What is 5 x 5
It responded out loud "It's 0"
Definately some bugs need to be worked out.
What is 4+5 returns "What is 4+5" and a second box with the answer "4 - 5 is equal to -1"
Oddly, if I say what is 0 plus 5 plus 5, it gets it right.
It always processes my speach correctly, but Ziggy doesn't always do the the right thing with what nuance responds with.
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LOL, it only gets like 10% of my questions half of the time and most of the time it redirects me to the web. One funny thing though, I asked it if it was gay out of anger and it responded "no, I am bi-sexual" LOL.... I hate to admit this but i've even tried the android versions on friends phones and no one even comes close to Siri.

I hope Ziggy keeps getting developed but for the time being it is not even close...
Other than what has already been mentioned it also has problems with knowing what day it is...for example, I asked it today "what football games are on today" and it gave me some old college football scores and said there were no NFL games today...it does the same thing with other date-related questions...if Ziggy can learn to get that right it will be awesome...my wife's 4S cannot get me even close to any sports scores if I ask...only sends me to the web for a link to espn.com...

sinister1 said:
(UPDATED 3-2-12 -The all new and improved Ziggy coming in a few days! And it's awesome! Click here to watch the video.
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Siri better watchout for Ziggy.

i don't see any ziggy update - its still as ****ty as always
was it pulled?

emjlr3 said:
i don't see any ziggy update - its still as ****ty as always
was it pulled?
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I agree with you guys that it's ****y, but this new one that is supposedly coming out any day now looks promising.

Version 2.0 is now available .

emjlr3 said:
i don't see any ziggy update - its still as ****ty as always
was it pulled?
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...the new version has just been released... and if you find the work and effort of a single guy ****ty, why don't you start and work on your own version if you are such a genius..

i love this update it works really good.

I'm really impressed with this update, the speech does not always get recognised properly but that is not the developers fault as they are using and external service to do that from what I understand.
Brilliant app and I am amazed that a single developer has done such a great job.

The new version is great. Sometimes it doesn't get the words correct but still its good, plus the new interface.

Okay, It was working fine for about a day and then it wouldn't get word right and then it started giving me odd responses and now it crashes from time to time ???
hopefully we get some updates soon.

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so excited that i have got my rhodium i decided to start a thread so people who share my excitement when they 1st got theirs can post! hope the moderator don't close me down.................
it is beautiful and so slim considering what is under the hood! been trying that dual speakerphone system and it works well. tried using in noisy environment and it auto fades out surrounding noise so you can hear what other person is saying! still cant stop the wind blowing into speakers though!
interesting to see what battery life will be on this thing as that could be its achiles heel! added coreplayer via cab and it works well. videos look stunning! the tilt screen is much stiffer so it don't flop about like on my old kaiser/tilt. used to think the screen on my kaiser would fall off at anytime! it would be nice if people posted the their initial feelings of the device wen 1st received and thoughts after a few days of use. i will be!
thanks all
Keep us posted
waiting for mine shall have it tommorow will post my firt initial thoghts on the phone ad then long term use ie battrey life.
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Keep us posted
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will do. still putting it through its paces as we speak. no freezes or untimely reboots as yet. added a few apps like tomtom etc. works well. can't get over how beautiful it looks and i am sure everyone who gets one will be happy. can't wait for all the customisations that will be available on here for this device. so exciting!
awesome and congrats. Mine should be here tomorrow i hope DHL is on time What onscreen keyboards dose it have? I am really wanting portrait suretype(compact qwerty) for the times i dont use the HW keyboard
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awesome and congrats. Mine should be here tomorrow i hope DHL is on time What onscreen keyboards dose it have? I am really wanting portrait suretype(compact qwerty) for the times i dont use the HW keyboard
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got that ez input keyboard on screen. no sure type or t9 i'm afraid! still the ez input keyboard works well and fully compatible with hardware keypad
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got that ez input keyboard on screen. no sure type or t9 i'm afraid! still the ez input keyboard works well and fully compatible with hardware keypad
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oh ok thanks for the info. I am gonna try and hunt down a suretype cab file that will work with it. It works the best for me for one handed texting
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oh ok thanks for the info. I am gonna try and hunt down a suretype cab file that will work with it. It works the best for me for one handed texting
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if you haven't already check out this very good review on here. it will wet your appetite even more. real in depth review
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139&p=1
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if you haven't already check out this very good review on here. it will wet your appetite even more. real in depth review
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139&p=1
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Ok thanks i have seen his unboxing and hardware review gonna check this out. Dang DHL site says clearance delay for the past 2 days. I called and they say it cleared over the weekend and will be here by 5 tomorrow. Dang sites not updated. I wish it were fedex but oh well
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Ok thanks i have seen his unboxing and hardware review gonna check this out. Dang DHL site says clearance delay for the past 2 days. I called and they say it cleared over the weekend and will be here by 5 tomorrow. Dang sites not updated. I wish it were fedex but oh well
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it will be worth it when you do get it! its a thing of beauty! let us know how you felt through your unboxing and initial usage!
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it will be worth it when you do get it! its a thing of beauty! let us know how you felt through your unboxing and initial usage!
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ok will do, i am currently using a Telstra touch HD so i figuring this one is gonna be that plus an awesome keyboard for the win I am so excited feel like a little kid lol
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ok will do, i am currently using a Telstra touch HD so i figuring this one is gonna be that plus an awesome keyboard for the win I am so excited feel like a little kid lol
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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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Oh ok sweet yeah post on the battery if you would. So WMP doesnt play movies well? On my touch hd it seemed to play better than coreplayer for me for some reason. I cant wait to try it out tomorrow How is the speaker volume? for music and ringtones
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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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Keep in mind that it takes like 3 full battery uses and reloads to get the battery on its best.
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Keep in mind that it takes like 3 full battery uses and reloads to get the battery on its best.
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yeah i know that but cheers for pointing out. getting its ass kicked today to see how it holds up after 1st charging cycle. gave it overnight charge - 12hrs. really hope battery holds up as this could be the only thing that could be its undoing. however saying that, when all the cooks start building rhodium roms etc i am sure there will be things in place to aid battery life!
few other things
no spare stylus. searched whole box and nothing.................
slide out mechanism is a bit stiff for my liking but like the sturdier feel to tilt screen. not sure bout purple background and do like the t-mobile look. that will be my 1st enhancement changing clocks and penguin to t-mobile rhodium look! will post screenshots of how it looks once done! very quick scrolling and smooth accross tabs. mem usage 50% as standard. music playback is more than suitable and in my opinion quite good! FINGERPRINT magnet my god! ugh hate that but will have to live with it! screen protector in box but i can never apply without getting bubbles underneath! big fingers/hands. i find tilt suitable enough for watching vids from my desk or table at home! can't wait to see WM6.5 on this machine
edit: still have the issue where i have to untick proxy in connections to get certain web apps working on t-mobile. for example messenger! not a big prob and doesn't slow down connection speed!
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yeah i know that but cheers for pointing out. getting its ass kicked today to see how it holds up after 1st charging cycle. gave it overnight charge - 12hrs. really hope battery holds up as this could be the only thing that could be its undoing. however saying that, when all the cooks start building rhodium roms etc i am sure there will be things in place to aid battery life!
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I'm hanging on your lips. Don't know if that's a right expression. It dutch translated, that I am waiting eagerly for your findings
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I'm hanging on your lips. Don't know if that's a right expression. It dutch translated, that I am waiting eagerly for your findings
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no worries! posted a few more observations above. must have been typing at same time as you!
finger menu is there and almost instant. synced my hotmail and gmail accounts with no issues. camera is 3 mgp and very adequate in good light conditions. that high res screen makes all the difference. video recording is awesome dude, best performance on any HTC deivice IMHO! call quality is great and very crisp. tv out is there but alas no cable and haven't searched to see if available yet!
multemidia
opera 9.5 there and works well but no flash support. IE is there but older version not new version. flash i however supported in IE. will update IE with cab i have for new version. been bashing since morning from bout 8.30am and till 3 bars left in battery.

Is anyone else getting bored with their Evo?

Maybe its just me... but I'm becoming quite bored with my Evo. It doesn't matter what ROM I'm using, I am just getting over Android. Sure it boots fast... but my battery won't last even a full day with heavy usage and its tedious changing them all the time, the touchscreen is way too sensitive at times, and since FroYo, I've had way too many freezes and reboots to count.
I'm honestly ready to jump on the Torch or just go back to using my Bold 2... I could pound the hell out of my Bold 2 and it would still last a day and a half minimum, I rarely, if ever, had it freeze, and it did most things I needed it to.
Am I missing something here? Because Android is turning out to be pretty boring. I hate the fact that I can't have a full desktop replacement like I could on Windows Mobile, I rather dislike having to select one e-mail at a time to delete it, and the customization is just not there...
you had me until you said you'd go back to blackberry.
Boring? Bb may be the most boring thing ever
But yeah maybe android isn't for you if you think you can do most things on your bb.
I like mine still and gingerbread will make it more interesting.
That said it gets stale at times but so did iphone os and web os
All things do. Bb got stale 5 years ago
I said I'd go back to Blackberry for stability purposes... not because its not boring. Plus I wouldn't have to buy another phone... I already own a Curve 8330 I can use on Sprint and my 9700 is on ATT.
Its either that or back to the Mogul or Touch Pro 2... I'd rather shoot myself.
I guess for me it would be more useful if I had a hardware keyboard...
EDIT: I guess I was expecting more... You know full flash is great and all... but without proper 3D acceleration it runs like ****. Same goes for the games on the Evo. 43FPS on Antigen? Are you kidding me? The Evo should absolutely SPANK that game...
Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
Jsimon9633 said:
I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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I don't have high expectations for WP7. I would love to be proven wrong but I don't even enjoy that particular interface on my Zune...
The Torch is something new and it fixes the main *****es that I had about BlackBerry - boot times and the web browser. Plus ATT offered it to me for 214 even though I only became a customer in January.
On the same token though I think its absolutely appalling that RIM is using the same 624MHz processor that my Bold 2 has and the Bold before it did as well so that would definitely factor into my decision to most likely not purchase the device.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
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Lol I do get ya man I also get bored with my gadgets
Just a nature of the beast
I tried iphone 4 and was bored after a week
Android is new completely to me so I'm still having fun with roms and kernels, oh my
But I'm sure I'll get bored at some point I just hope gingerbread is out by then
I've not had stability issues though barring some mistakes I made as I learned how to properly flash roms
If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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EtherealRemnant said:
If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The market definitely sucks
Have you tried app brain
It haas helped me find cool apps more than the market
App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
I'm waiting for some real games to come to android too but I'm not that in need since I have my ipad for gaming not to mention my itouch
I do want facebook connected scrabble for android though and bejeweled blitz also with fb connect would alleviate these horrible games I see for android
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If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The Evo does have a dedicated graphics processor. In fact, the adreno GPU is quite capable for a mobile device. Games just need to be re-written to support it (Nova is an example of this, it used to run like crap, now runs beautifully). Sure it's not as powerful as the SGX series, but it's certainly not that underpowered.
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App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
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Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
Jsimon9633 said:
Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
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Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
EtherealRemnant said:
Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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Hope this improves your android experience
The community around thee android platform had really impressed me
Especially on this board!
I honestly don't see how you could possibly get bored... You have roms and kernels to last you days of flashing...
Like gambling? You can play Live Poker.
Like racing? You can play Asphalt
Like reading quotes, books and newspapers? theres an app for that.
Like porn? well who doesn't? There is even an app for that.
Craving some super mario or final fantasy? You have emulators.
Like listening to music? You have pandora and a bunch of other radios...
WTF MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT? Some people are just never satisfied.
like honestly...I just don't get it. If your having trouble finding a stable Rom try evios latest and use one of kings kernel. Im easily getting 15 hours on a single charge with moderate-heavy usage.
P.S the latest app thats been keeping me busy is Akinator. That sht is crazy!!! the first time I used it I literally dropped my phone.

So I hear that one of these phones is coming to Sprint soon...

And I'm thinking about picking it up. I currently have the Epic 4G and I had the Evo and honestly..I just dont like how Android is doing things. Spent more time tweaking and messing with it instead of using it as a phone and it still bugs me :/
But the point of this thread wasnt to bring that up..here's what I'd like to know:
This is how I use my phone. A few calls. I used to text a whole bunch...then I realized how dumb that was so now I only send about 20 a day. I listen to music a sht ton and I also use the browser a sht ton as well. I, however, dont use any apps other than the apps given to me from the get-go.
Would any windows phone 7's battery life be able to cover those things for at least 4-5 hours? Also, what are the biggest issues with windows phone 7 right now? And by that I simply mean problems that can be found on all phones, not just things that you dont like personally.
And I was googling and youtubing trying to answer those things for myself and I saw this one video..and this guy went to the bottom of the screen and on the bottom right it had what looked like some XBL stuff...the games on these phones run multiplayer through XBL?
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But the point of this thread wasnt to bring that up..here's what I'd like to know:
This is how I use my phone. A few calls. I used to text a whole bunch...then I realized how dumb that was so now I only send about 20 a day. I listen to music a sht ton and I also use the browser a sht ton as well. I, however, dont use any apps other than the apps given to me from the get-go. Would any windows phone 7's battery life be able to cover those things for at least 4-5 hours?
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WP7 should do this perfectly fine. The browser is great, with zune listening to Music is perfect. And from what I hear battery life in general is great.
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Also, what are the biggest issues with windows phone 7 right now? And by that I simply mean problems that can be found on all phones, not just things that you dont like personally.
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The major issues currently are, it can't connect to a hidden wifi network, the marketplace is a little buggy and will crash at times, no copy/paste if that matters to you. Though the marketplace and c/p are getting fixed in the update that is coming out in the next week or so.
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And I was googling and youtubing trying to answer those things for myself and I saw this one video..and this guy went to the bottom of the screen and on the bottom right it had what looked like some XBL stuff...the games on these phones run multiplayer through XBL?
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Full multiplayer isn't there...yet. Turn based multi-player is however
Battery life on WP is better than android in my opinion (definately depends on battery size, etc).
Windows phone is nice, I was sick of android (had an evo on sprint) as well so I jumped ship over to AT&T and got the focus. Windows phone is a breath of fresh air. Android is just so choppy and hacked together... Gingerbread is nice, but still slow compared to windows.
Yeah I have been thinking about getting the Arrive (pro7)on sprint when its released. I have played around with WP7 a few times when I go to Best Buy, and I like the simplicity of the UI. its almost like the difference between iOS and Honeycomb. I love android to death, I'm just ready for a change I guess. It's worth a try anyway, if I don't like it I can always go back to my EVO or my Shift. And from what I have read about the Arrive on Sprint, it will come with copy and paste out of the box on the 20th.
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WP7 should do this perfectly fine. The browser is great, with zune listening to Music is perfect. And from what I hear battery life in general is great.
The major issues currently are, it can't connect to a hidden wifi network, the marketplace is a little buggy and will crash at times, no copy/paste if that matters to you. Though the marketplace and c/p are getting fixed in the update that is coming out in the next week or so.
Full multiplayer isn't there...yet. Turn based multi-player is however
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Seriously? That's all? I'm liking WP7 already! Well..I mean those are problems and I dont like problems but I dont even go to the market on my epic and I dont use wifi...I probably wouldnt have even noticed those things if I had the device and nobody brought it up.
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Battery life on WP is better than android in my opinion (definately depends on battery size, etc).
Windows phone is nice, I was sick of android (had an evo on sprint) as well so I jumped ship over to AT&T and got the focus. Windows phone is a breath of fresh air. Android is just so choppy and hacked together... Gingerbread is nice, but still slow compared to windows.
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Well I saw that this one WP7 phone had like a 1200mah battery and it got 12 hours which is pretty impressive even with medium use. I think the one for sprint will have atleast a 1500mah so Im excited! And yeah, Android is just so damn choppy...and Android does get A LOT of things right but at the same time, they get a lot wrong...which wouldnt be a problem if they planned on fixing those issues but I just dont see any fixes in the future. The OS is too busy trying to steal the gamers from iOS...providing a smooth experience just doesnt seem top priority right now...and thats a shame.
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Yeah I have been thinking about getting the Arrive (pro7)on sprint when its released. I have played around with WP7 a few times when I go to Best Buy, and I like the simplicity of the UI. its almost like the difference between iOS and Honeycomb. I love android to death, I'm just ready for a change I guess. It's worth a try anyway, if I don't like it I can always go back to my EVO or my Shift. And from what I have read about the Arrive on Sprint, it will come with copy and paste out of the box on the 20th.
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Yeah that Arrive is what Im looking forward to. And like you say, if I dont like it im in the same boat as you... I can just activate my Epic again and it'd be all good. But I doubt I'll go back.

Speech to Text

I unfortunately own the dreaded bugged Dell Venue Pro. On the plus side though, I have gotten to experience the amazing WinMo7 OS. I love it. I will stick with it when I move on to the next phone and just avoid the con-artists known as Dell.
With that said, one of the very few things that has let me down with WinMo7 and the Mango update, is the speech to text feature. I find it ridiculously inaccurate. I would say it works at about a 5% success rate and is so far off most of the time it is comical.
I was curious if everyone else is having great success with this feature or if it is just me (could be something with my voice or even could just be another bug with the Venue Pro Microphone). Would like to hear how the feature is working for everyone else. Thanks.
English is not my native langauge but it get most of my speech correct. So I have no problem with it.
missionsparta said:
I unfortunately own the dreaded bugged Dell Venue Pro. On the plus side though, I have gotten to experience the amazing WinMo7 OS. I love it. I will stick with it when I move on to the next phone and just avoid the con-artists known as Dell.
With that said, one of the very few things that has let me down with WinMo7 and the Mango update, is the speech to text feature. I find it ridiculously inaccurate. I would say it works at about a 5% success rate and is so far off most of the time it is comical.
I was curious if everyone else is having great success with this feature or if it is just me (could be something with my voice or even could just be another bug with the Venue Pro Microphone). Would like to hear how the feature is working for everyone else. Thanks.
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First of all, as a sidenote, it's Windows Phone, not Windows Mobile. Anyways, text to speech worked pretty well the few times I used it. I noticed that the more clear I speak, the better it recognizes what I say. So no dialects, no mumbling.. I barely use it since I couldn't figure out how to use punctuation so it's kinda useless for me.
i was very excited about this at first, until I ran into the same problem. i keep using it occasionally, hoping it will get it right this time... but anything over 2 or 3 words and it always messes something up. i'm even sure to speak slowly and clearly. all it needs to do is mess one word up and its pointless. if i have to go in and correct something, that ends up taking longer than had i just typed in the first place.
Don't u mean windows phone. Also the dell venue pro is great with mango update, but that doesn't erase their past. Speech to text works well enough for me. Not sure what ur doing wrong but I don't have the big problems u state
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Yeah... Im not sure what the deal is. I don't have a lisp or anything like that .
Does anyone know if the core of the speech to text is shared with the music recognition feature also? Because that thing is buggy as hell to. For a while I would try to use it on songs and it would come back empty. I was starting to think that they just didnt have those songs in their library. But, then when a song was unrecognized, I would switch over to Shazam. Shazam would indicate what the song was, and if I clicked the Zune icon with in the app, it would take me right to the song in the Zune marketplace, so obviously the problem wasnt that they didn't 'carry' that song.
Other than when I have to use the phone to have it 'listen' and recognize what is being played or said, the OS is AMAZING.
In all honesty, I find the clearer and more diss-tinkt-lee I speak, the less it picks up.
It'll be something like this:
Me: Text (wife)
Phone: texting (wife)
Me: Want, to, get, pizza, tonight?
Phone: Went you bet pizza to knight. You can say send or start over.
Me: Start over.
Me: Wanna get pizzatonight
Phone: Wanna get pizza tonight
I kid you not, it picks up all the "gonnas" and what not. However for things longer than two sentences, it's a crap shoot.
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My guess is they purposely coded it to pick up more natural sounding speech patterns.
My favorite is when it takes everyday words and censors them because it thinks you drop so 4 letter bombs.
Example:
To Wife: You looked like a million dollars tonight.
What she gets: You looked like a *#&$&#@! tonight.
Goes over real well...
Works for me okay! I like it when its reading texts with "x's" at the end it reads "kisses" its so funny
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In all honesty, I find the clearer and more diss-tinkt-lee I speak, the less it picks up.
It'll be something like this:
Me: Text (wife)
Phone: texting (wife)
Me: Want, to, get, pizza, tonight?
Phone: Went you bet pizza to knight. You can say send or start over.
Me: Start over.
Me: Wanna get pizzatonight
Phone: Wanna get pizza tonight
I kid you not, it picks up all the "gonnas" and what not. However for things longer than two sentences, it's a crap shoot.
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My guess is they purposely coded it to pick up more natural sounding speech patterns.
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I'll have to try this.. I wonder if it's true. I was getting frustrated, it seemed like the more deliberate I was the more it ****ed with me.
and I don't get you guys who are saying 'it works good enough'. it either works or doesn't, no? if it doesn't say what you want then it's useless.
I don't bother with speech to text, but what I miss from the old WM 6.5 was MS Voice Command. You can ask "what time is it?"; "what call did I missed?"; "what appointment do I have?", etc.. It would event alert my upcoming appointment by voice! I don't get why MS scraped that and gave us this handicapped voice thing. Why let Apple get all the credit for siri when Voice Command was able do 80% of that 4 years ago?
Don't give Siri too much credit, it was down for hours today....anywho, mine is 90% accurate...sometimes it amazes me that it picked up what I said, but occasionally it will translate some crazy stuff lol.
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i'm sorry but more testing and this is atrocious.
my last two messages contained 'soon though i'm a' which was turned into 'sonoma'. SERIOUS?
and then 'eleven' it interpreted as 'lesson'. wrong amount of syllables, not even close.
missionsparta said:
My favorite is when it takes everyday words and censors them because it thinks you drop so 4 letter bombs.
Example:
To Wife: You looked like a million dollars tonight.
What she gets: You looked like a *#&$&#@! tonight.
Goes over real well...
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It always makes me chuckle that it actually reads off f*ck and sh*t, etc. Even f*cking reads out loud and clear. However yeah, if I dictate a curse word, it replaces it with comic book swear symbols.
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i'm sorry but more testing and this is atrocious.
my last two messages contained 'soon though i'm a' which was turned into 'sonoma'. SERIOUS?
and then 'eleven' it interpreted as 'lesson'. wrong amount of syllables, not even close.
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"soon though I'm a", what was the rest of your sentence? If it was something like "I'm a be at John's house", then that might be your problem. I wouldn't think that urban slang is coded in, making it think you meant something else.
Essentially, Tellme has gotten pretty good for American/British & Aussie accents.
I'm Chinese & my voice is of a higher pitch so Tellme only got it right 50% & assuming the Auto-gain on the Trophy or my Bluetooth headset doesnt attenuate my voice too much.
A Kiwi I know also have the same problem but you know what? It's a lot better now compared to a year ago & the key is to speak naturally.
It's actually working amazingly well for me which is surprising since I have an Australian accent. I find it strange that it's not working too well for you.
Eg, I said 'I'll meet you at the park in 30 minutes but I'll also be stopping for lunch on the way' and it came out as 'I'll meet you at the park in 30 minutes but I'll also be stopping for lunch on my way'. I actually said this quickly (normal conversation speed), and it came out almost perfect. Even with the error (if you could even call it that) the sentence still made perfect sense..
I've found that the slower and clearer i speak the worse it is.
If i just speak normaly to it, it gets it pretty good.
i wonder if this is the issue for me?
are the phone sold with an accent filter?
I'm an Aussie but i live in the UK and i bought my mobile through O2. is there a way to tell the phone to "listen" for an Aussie accent?
I don't think we need something like Siri on WP7, it's a gimmick imo.
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I don't think we need something like Siri on WP7, it's a gimmick imo.
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it's marketed as a gimmick but there's no doubt its a useful feature. its capabilities are way beyond Tellme where you have to start off with 1 of only 4 keywords to start an action. i'll give it another few years though until anyone puts out a voice system that is truly useful and accurate.
i will give siri extra credit though.. my brother was messing around with it, and even when he gave commands it wouldn't recognize, it would exactly repeat what he said no matter how bizarre or quick he would talk. i'd imagine it must work well for voice to text.

Free Nokia Lumia 900 to trial

Hey boys and girls
im not sure if you know about this already or not but I got fed up with the whole Apple / Samsung court cases and chilsish behaviour, after tweeting @nokia they sent me this link - http://conversations.nokia.com/trial-a-nokia/
I filled it all out and guess what there sending me a new lumia 900 to play with how awesome is that ???? give it a shot
cheers
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Hey boys and girls
im not sure if you know about this already or not but I got fed up with the whole Apple / Samsung court cases and chilsish behaviour, after tweeting @nokia they sent me this link - http://conversations.nokia.com/trial-a-nokia/
I filled it all out and guess what there sending me a new lumia 900 to play with how awesome is that ???? give it a shot
cheers
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Lol... giving them away
hx4700 Killer said:
Lol... giving them away
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Read again, they loan it to you for 2 weeks.
Hey, yeah I know its only for a few weeks but thats still pretty awesome and there is a chance that you get to keep one
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Hey, yeah I know its only for a few weeks but thats still pretty awesome and there is a chance that you get to keep one
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It's a great marketing tool. People are edgy about WP7 (and I'm guessing 8.) and this is a great way for them to try it out. Microsoft should do something similar as well.
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It's a great marketing tool. People are edgy about WP7 (and I'm guessing 8.) and this is a great way for them to try it out. Microsoft should do something similar as well.
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hey so I now have my brand new white lumia 900 and everything about it so far is brilliant. I'm only missing one app so far that being Sky +. I have the norms Facebook, twitter, foursquare, Skype IP con errors and a host of others. Its synced all my contacts ithout issue no duplicates. So far its all good
I will keep you updated
I just signed up for it. Fingers crossed!
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How long did it take you guys to hear back from nokia? Its taking forever for me...hope that doesn't mean i dont cut it. And with the announcement today, Nokia dropped the ball.
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How long did it take you guys to hear back from nokia? Its taking forever for me...hope that doesn't mean i dont cut it. And with the announcement today, Nokia dropped the ball.
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Hey Guys
All in all about 5/6 days in total, in really loving this phone its been awesome so far with everything I have asked of it, I highly reccomend you all at least have a go with one. I honestly think Windows Phone may be the way forward, Apple lost my interest a long time ago as they only ever seem to add a few new features with each release and not revamp the entire OS and lets face it the phones have pretty much stayed the same. As for Android well I do love it however maybe in just getting old because this Windows Oas just feels more professional and well just better !!!
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Hey Guys
All in all about 5/6 days in total, in really loving this phone its been awesome so far with everything I have asked of it, I highly reccomend you all at least have a go with one. I honestly think Windows Phone may be the way forward, Apple lost my interest a long time ago as they only ever seem to add a few new features with each release and not revamp the entire OS and lets face it the phones have pretty much stayed the same. As for Android well I do love it however maybe in just getting old because this Windows Oas just feels more professional and well just better !!!
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Did they email you first or did they just send you the phone?
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Did they email you first or did they just send you the phone?
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Well they dont have my address yet. Thats why i'm hoping that they will email me asking for it so they can ship it out. Its been 3 days now and i'm thinking that they didn't accept it.
I signed up for this too I'm starting up a phone blog, so this will help me out a lot. If I may, I want to ask a question.
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I'm currently an Android user, and looking to Windows Phone as my next OS. My device was recently stolen, so I'm looking to by a new device. But I have no idea which one to buy. Most windows devices look the same expect the Nokia 900. It's an amazing device. But what makes it difference between this device, and the Radar?
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I signed up for this too I'm starting up a phone blog, so this will help me out a lot. If I may, I want to ask a question.
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I'm currently an Android user, and looking to Windows Phone as my next OS. My device was recently stolen, so I'm looking to by a new device. But I have no idea which one to buy. Most windows devices look the same expect the Nokia 900. It's an amazing device. But what makes it difference between this device, and the Radar?
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The OS is the same. There are some Nokia exclusive apps for a short period of time, but that's about as far as the difference software wise goes between a Nokia and the Radar. The major difference between the Lumia and the Radar is the build quality. Everything after using the solid as a rock Lumia feels like crap.
I hope I get one. I really want to try out windows. That new lumia 920 is sick!
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Hi guys they send you a form to fill out if they have chosen you, they have gave me another £10 free credit today they have been really good so far awesome in fact, I have never known a company to do anything like this before I think its brillaint, good luck to you all im sure they will be in touch soon
im really thinking I might get one of these phones to as they are great, I have had no issues yet at all everything about it is fantastic
they emailed me a form to fill out
OK
soooo been using this beast for a few days now not everything can be awesome so, im not a big fan of the camera i the dark it reminds me of a phone from 5 years ago the flash just isnt good enough to be fair, on the flip side in the middle of the day the camera is just as good as any other I have had good quality bright and well perfectly acceptable.
I have now came across a handful of apps that I cant find when I say handful I mean 2/3 literally that I would like but to be honest I can live without, Instagram , Sky + and the other escapes me right now.
the hardware on the phone is brilliant though, I think I will be moving to a Nokia very soon, the build quality is just amazing.
everything else is so far so good
oh one last thing for now, the windows phone marketplace, it seems to get a lot of grief from people for only having a few apps ??? I think theres over 100000 now compared with Apple and Android in the millions....... well this maybe true but looking at the apps on Android and then my windows market place well its an education. the amount of pure and utter crap found on the android play store is crazy half really is malware or just an app that well basically dont work.
all the apps I have really needed and are useful are found on the WP marketplace, when browsing the market place every app is of use or is popular and wanted by users there are no crappy apps for want of a better word..
with that said more updates will follow.
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soooo been using this beast for a few days now not everything can be awesome so, im not a big fan of the camera i the dark it reminds me of a phone from 5 years ago the flash just isnt good enough to be fair, on the flip side in the middle of the day the camera is just as good as any other I have had good quality bright and well perfectly acceptable.
I have now came across a handful of apps that I cant find when I say handful I mean 2/3 literally that I would like but to be honest I can live without, Instagram , Sky + and the other escapes me right now.
the hardware on the phone is brilliant though, I think I will be moving to a Nokia very soon, the build quality is just amazing.
everything else is so far so good
oh one last thing for now, the windows phone marketplace, it seems to get a lot of grief from people for only having a few apps ??? I think theres over 100000 now compared with Apple and Android in the millions....... well this maybe true but looking at the apps on Android and then my windows market place well its an education. the amount of pure and utter crap found on the android play store is crazy half really is malware or just an app that well basically dont work.
all the apps I have really needed and are useful are found on the WP marketplace, when browsing the market place every app is of use or is popular and wanted by users there are no crappy apps for want of a better word..
with that said more updates will follow.
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you're lucky...i tweeted @nokia and they said they escalted it and will get back to me whether i got it or not. Hope i did..i have a great app idea (its done..just needs testing on a windows phone )
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you're lucky...i tweeted @nokia and they said they escalted it and will get back to me whether i got it or not. Hope i did..i have a great app idea (its done..just needs testing on a windows phone )
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good luck fella
Any updates for anyone? I haven't heard anything back.
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