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What do you really feel about the Evo?

All I read in the forums are complaints about the Evo. I personally don't have a single issue with the phone aside from the awesomeness overdrive. Obviously, people will post/complain more about their issues than those who are completely happy with their phone. But it does skew the image of the Evo for those who happen to stumble on to XDA in hopes of researching the phone for future use. So here's a poll.

bump. i really want to know.
btw. how the frak do i change my signature?
if you can tell, its so damn old!

love it! and no issues!

Best phone I have ever owned or even used for that matter. Few issues but I think most will be solved within a month of release. Pretty damn impressive if u ask me.
Now if HTC would just release the source code we would be in heaven!!!

appzattak said:
love it! and no issues!
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Same here. If there were, I don't notice it and it doesn't bother me at all for me to completely disown this phone.
It's amazing in many ways and there's still plenty of room for improvements. The roms will certainly help this phone get there.
From the HTC Evo!!

How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!

Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Glad I'm not the only one. I find myself laying in bed at night doing stuff only to realize the sun is coming up....

Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Ha! And my wife calls me a nerd and tells me to put it up. At least I'm not the only one.

Well, I haven't touched my laptop since Tuesday...I love it.
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Having this phone is really starting to mess with my circadian rhythm.

I don't feel anything....but there's alot I THINK about it.

I love it. It's the phone I wish I had years ago when the first iPhone came out. I had a Hero before, and I still liked my wifes 3GS, now with the larger screen of the EVO, I don't have that screen-envy anymore. The iPhone just looks tiny and awkward now.
What are the problems people in the poll are talking about? I don't have any issues with mine.

The people that come to this site repent one half of pone half of one percent of evo owners. The people you see here are either either true hackers, heard about how awesome rooting is and want to do it without reading directions, or find us by way of common search term for a specific issue they are having.
The point is, we may hear slot of complaining here, but its because we're part of a vocal and participatory minority.
I have an ipad for work, I had the pre and before that an htc touch pro before a myriad of other phones dating back to the nokia 101. The evo and android are the closest I have ever seen to fulfilling the promise of mobile technology and convenience.
The future is here, and many of the people reading these forums are holding it right now.
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My 2 Cents
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO

I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.

_Kyros_ said:
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
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I had the g1 too. Learned stuff with that. I had to sell mine to help me pay for this phone. I miss it, but I love the Evo.
From the HTC Evo!!

gqstatus0685 said:
I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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Yeah. The market needs to go through a major makeover. Some apps are crappy. Needs for categories.. etc. I don't even bother browsing through it. I just search and go.
From the HTC Evo!!

I love my phone....I been hoping to run into someone who has a iPhone so I can say ...hhhhhhaaaaaaa hhhhaaaaa!!!
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Is anyone else getting bored with their Evo?

Maybe its just me... but I'm becoming quite bored with my Evo. It doesn't matter what ROM I'm using, I am just getting over Android. Sure it boots fast... but my battery won't last even a full day with heavy usage and its tedious changing them all the time, the touchscreen is way too sensitive at times, and since FroYo, I've had way too many freezes and reboots to count.
I'm honestly ready to jump on the Torch or just go back to using my Bold 2... I could pound the hell out of my Bold 2 and it would still last a day and a half minimum, I rarely, if ever, had it freeze, and it did most things I needed it to.
Am I missing something here? Because Android is turning out to be pretty boring. I hate the fact that I can't have a full desktop replacement like I could on Windows Mobile, I rather dislike having to select one e-mail at a time to delete it, and the customization is just not there...

you had me until you said you'd go back to blackberry.
Boring? Bb may be the most boring thing ever

But yeah maybe android isn't for you if you think you can do most things on your bb.
I like mine still and gingerbread will make it more interesting.
That said it gets stale at times but so did iphone os and web os
All things do. Bb got stale 5 years ago

I said I'd go back to Blackberry for stability purposes... not because its not boring. Plus I wouldn't have to buy another phone... I already own a Curve 8330 I can use on Sprint and my 9700 is on ATT.
Its either that or back to the Mogul or Touch Pro 2... I'd rather shoot myself.
I guess for me it would be more useful if I had a hardware keyboard...
EDIT: I guess I was expecting more... You know full flash is great and all... but without proper 3D acceleration it runs like ****. Same goes for the games on the Evo. 43FPS on Antigen? Are you kidding me? The Evo should absolutely SPANK that game...

Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.

I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story

zeuzinn said:
Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.

Jsimon9633 said:
I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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I don't have high expectations for WP7. I would love to be proven wrong but I don't even enjoy that particular interface on my Zune...
The Torch is something new and it fixes the main *****es that I had about BlackBerry - boot times and the web browser. Plus ATT offered it to me for 214 even though I only became a customer in January.
On the same token though I think its absolutely appalling that RIM is using the same 624MHz processor that my Bold 2 has and the Bold before it did as well so that would definitely factor into my decision to most likely not purchase the device.

EtherealRemnant said:
I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
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Lol I do get ya man I also get bored with my gadgets
Just a nature of the beast
I tried iphone 4 and was bored after a week
Android is new completely to me so I'm still having fun with roms and kernels, oh my
But I'm sure I'll get bored at some point I just hope gingerbread is out by then
I've not had stability issues though barring some mistakes I made as I learned how to properly flash roms

If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...

Market
EtherealRemnant said:
If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The market definitely sucks
Have you tried app brain
It haas helped me find cool apps more than the market

App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.

I'm waiting for some real games to come to android too but I'm not that in need since I have my ipad for gaming not to mention my itouch
I do want facebook connected scrabble for android though and bejeweled blitz also with fb connect would alleviate these horrible games I see for android

EtherealRemnant said:
If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The Evo does have a dedicated graphics processor. In fact, the adreno GPU is quite capable for a mobile device. Games just need to be re-written to support it (Nova is an example of this, it used to run like crap, now runs beautifully). Sure it's not as powerful as the SGX series, but it's certainly not that underpowered.

EtherealRemnant said:
App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
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Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them

Jsimon9633 said:
Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
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Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!

EtherealRemnant said:
Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet

Jsimon9633 said:
Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)

EtherealRemnant said:
I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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Hope this improves your android experience
The community around thee android platform had really impressed me
Especially on this board!

I honestly don't see how you could possibly get bored... You have roms and kernels to last you days of flashing...
Like gambling? You can play Live Poker.
Like racing? You can play Asphalt
Like reading quotes, books and newspapers? theres an app for that.
Like porn? well who doesn't? There is even an app for that.
Craving some super mario or final fantasy? You have emulators.
Like listening to music? You have pandora and a bunch of other radios...
WTF MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT? Some people are just never satisfied.
like honestly...I just don't get it. If your having trouble finding a stable Rom try evios latest and use one of kings kernel. Im easily getting 15 hours on a single charge with moderate-heavy usage.
P.S the latest app thats been keeping me busy is Akinator. That sht is crazy!!! the first time I used it I literally dropped my phone.

So I hear that one of these phones is coming to Sprint soon...

And I'm thinking about picking it up. I currently have the Epic 4G and I had the Evo and honestly..I just dont like how Android is doing things. Spent more time tweaking and messing with it instead of using it as a phone and it still bugs me :/
But the point of this thread wasnt to bring that up..here's what I'd like to know:
This is how I use my phone. A few calls. I used to text a whole bunch...then I realized how dumb that was so now I only send about 20 a day. I listen to music a sht ton and I also use the browser a sht ton as well. I, however, dont use any apps other than the apps given to me from the get-go.
Would any windows phone 7's battery life be able to cover those things for at least 4-5 hours? Also, what are the biggest issues with windows phone 7 right now? And by that I simply mean problems that can be found on all phones, not just things that you dont like personally.
And I was googling and youtubing trying to answer those things for myself and I saw this one video..and this guy went to the bottom of the screen and on the bottom right it had what looked like some XBL stuff...the games on these phones run multiplayer through XBL?

ms79723 said:
But the point of this thread wasnt to bring that up..here's what I'd like to know:
This is how I use my phone. A few calls. I used to text a whole bunch...then I realized how dumb that was so now I only send about 20 a day. I listen to music a sht ton and I also use the browser a sht ton as well. I, however, dont use any apps other than the apps given to me from the get-go. Would any windows phone 7's battery life be able to cover those things for at least 4-5 hours?
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WP7 should do this perfectly fine. The browser is great, with zune listening to Music is perfect. And from what I hear battery life in general is great.
ms79723 said:
Also, what are the biggest issues with windows phone 7 right now? And by that I simply mean problems that can be found on all phones, not just things that you dont like personally.
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The major issues currently are, it can't connect to a hidden wifi network, the marketplace is a little buggy and will crash at times, no copy/paste if that matters to you. Though the marketplace and c/p are getting fixed in the update that is coming out in the next week or so.
ms79723 said:
And I was googling and youtubing trying to answer those things for myself and I saw this one video..and this guy went to the bottom of the screen and on the bottom right it had what looked like some XBL stuff...the games on these phones run multiplayer through XBL?
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Full multiplayer isn't there...yet. Turn based multi-player is however

Battery life on WP is better than android in my opinion (definately depends on battery size, etc).
Windows phone is nice, I was sick of android (had an evo on sprint) as well so I jumped ship over to AT&T and got the focus. Windows phone is a breath of fresh air. Android is just so choppy and hacked together... Gingerbread is nice, but still slow compared to windows.

Yeah I have been thinking about getting the Arrive (pro7)on sprint when its released. I have played around with WP7 a few times when I go to Best Buy, and I like the simplicity of the UI. its almost like the difference between iOS and Honeycomb. I love android to death, I'm just ready for a change I guess. It's worth a try anyway, if I don't like it I can always go back to my EVO or my Shift. And from what I have read about the Arrive on Sprint, it will come with copy and paste out of the box on the 20th.
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Omega Ra said:
WP7 should do this perfectly fine. The browser is great, with zune listening to Music is perfect. And from what I hear battery life in general is great.
The major issues currently are, it can't connect to a hidden wifi network, the marketplace is a little buggy and will crash at times, no copy/paste if that matters to you. Though the marketplace and c/p are getting fixed in the update that is coming out in the next week or so.
Full multiplayer isn't there...yet. Turn based multi-player is however
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Seriously? That's all? I'm liking WP7 already! Well..I mean those are problems and I dont like problems but I dont even go to the market on my epic and I dont use wifi...I probably wouldnt have even noticed those things if I had the device and nobody brought it up.
courtlandre said:
Battery life on WP is better than android in my opinion (definately depends on battery size, etc).
Windows phone is nice, I was sick of android (had an evo on sprint) as well so I jumped ship over to AT&T and got the focus. Windows phone is a breath of fresh air. Android is just so choppy and hacked together... Gingerbread is nice, but still slow compared to windows.
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Well I saw that this one WP7 phone had like a 1200mah battery and it got 12 hours which is pretty impressive even with medium use. I think the one for sprint will have atleast a 1500mah so Im excited! And yeah, Android is just so damn choppy...and Android does get A LOT of things right but at the same time, they get a lot wrong...which wouldnt be a problem if they planned on fixing those issues but I just dont see any fixes in the future. The OS is too busy trying to steal the gamers from iOS...providing a smooth experience just doesnt seem top priority right now...and thats a shame.
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Yeah I have been thinking about getting the Arrive (pro7)on sprint when its released. I have played around with WP7 a few times when I go to Best Buy, and I like the simplicity of the UI. its almost like the difference between iOS and Honeycomb. I love android to death, I'm just ready for a change I guess. It's worth a try anyway, if I don't like it I can always go back to my EVO or my Shift. And from what I have read about the Arrive on Sprint, it will come with copy and paste out of the box on the 20th.
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Yeah that Arrive is what Im looking forward to. And like you say, if I dont like it im in the same boat as you... I can just activate my Epic again and it'd be all good. But I doubt I'll go back.

Going from android to windows 7

Hi everyone
I am thinking about picking up the 900 coming from a galaxy nexus. Now my problem is I am a heavy google user especially google voice. Does that work with win 7 and would I have a tough time transitioning to win 7 and the 900?
Thanks for any help

dblake15 said:
Hi everyone
I am thinking about picking up the 900 coming from a galaxy nexus. Now my problem is I am a heavy google user especially google voice. Does that work with win 7 and would I have a tough time transitioning to win 7 and the 900?
Thanks for any help
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do not assume anything google will work. Just like nothing windows will work on android. Best bet is check with voice, they will know if it works or not.
I made the transition from android to winphone. I didn't made and didn't look for backs all the time, so transition was easy. Android does alot of good things. So does winphone. But they are different. It is a different experience. How well you like it will be up to you.

dblake15 said:
Hi everyone
I am thinking about picking up the 900 coming from a galaxy nexus. Now my problem is I am a heavy google user especially google voice. Does that work with win 7 and would I have a tough time transitioning to win 7 and the 900?
Thanks for any help
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkifKnNmeVg&feature=relmfu
watch that, i think that will help you decide on upgrading to it. the only think about the lumia 900 that bugs me is the resolution on the big screen

stratax said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkifKnNmeVg&feature=relmfu
watch that, i think that will help you decide on upgrading to it. the only think about the lumia 900 that bugs me is the resolution on the big screen
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I think the resolution is only an issue if you plan on heavy usage of the phone such as watching movies etc... I don't "live" on my phone so its never been an issue. Considering the ability to view it nicely in sunlight and the RICH color experience compared to HTC and iPhone I don't think you will be disapointed.

From all the pictures I've seen of it, to me, the colors look dull. I just got the galaxy note and I am extremely happy with it. I was just thinking about picking up the 900 since the price is so good. Screen clarity is huge for me. A friend of mine had the original Samsung Focus and wp7 looked really good on that phone but I don't know about the Lumia 900. It might not be the phone for me.
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HadDaddy said:
From all the pictures I've seen of it, to me, the colors look dull. I just got the galaxy note and I am extremely happy with it. I was just thinking about picking up the 900 since the price is so good. Screen clarity is huge for me. A friend of mine had the original Samsung Focus and wp7 looked really good on that phone but I don't know about the Lumia 900. It might not be the phone for me.
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One of the things to remember, the default setting for brightness is automatic. This dulls down the screen brightness alot, even on the samsung. I switch mine from automatic and set it to medium. Screen looks amazing....of the 900 devices I've got to play with, its screen looked fine.

the colors and the screen itself look fantastic, its just the resolution on the bigger screen. at least its not as big as the titans lol. qHD would have been perfect on this or at least the resolution of the n9. im either going to upgrade to this or the n9, kind of hard to pick. definitely getting rid of my amaze though

dblake15 said:
Hi everyone
I am thinking about picking up the 900 coming from a galaxy nexus. Now my problem is I am a heavy google user especially google voice. Does that work with win 7 and would I have a tough time transitioning to win 7 and the 900?
Thanks for any help
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There are a couple google voice apps for wp7 that work quite well
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HadDaddy said:
From all the pictures I've seen of it, to me, the colors look dull. I just got the galaxy note and I am extremely happy with it. I was just thinking about picking up the 900 since the price is so good. Screen clarity is huge for me. A friend of mine had the original Samsung Focus and wp7 looked really good on that phone but I don't know about the Lumia 900. It might not be the phone for me.
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I compared the lumia to the focus and they are the same at the store where I pre-ordered. The colors on the amoleds look FAR superior to something like the Titan. In fact I passed on it because of that, the HTC colors were just white washed BADLY by comparison.

So I have had just about every android device worth having, I am currently using an iphone 4s, switched from the Galaxy Nexus to use it for a while, it is a nice device, but I just prefer android better.
I have never tried wp7, don't really care for the look of the OS, but I like the looks of the Nokia phone and I have been wanting to try it out. I am open minded to the idea, like I said I love android, I think ios is great too, just like android better.
I am really hoping to like wp7, I like to be able to switch back in forth to different operating systems.

That is what I am going to do. I will just switch back and forth between phones. Gotta love gsm.

wolfedude88 said:
So I have had just about every android device worth having, I am currently using an iphone 4s, switched from the Galaxy Nexus to use it for a while, it is a nice device, but I just prefer android better.
I have never tried wp7, don't really care for the look of the OS, but I like the looks of the Nokia phone and I have been wanting to try it out. I am open minded to the idea, like I said I love android, I think ios is great too, just like android better.
I am really hoping to like wp7, I like to be able to switch back in forth to different operating systems.
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once you get the lumia 900 you should update on what you like and what you dont like

stratax said:
once you get the lumia 900 you should update on what you like and what you dont like
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Okay will do, I usually post on androidforums, but now with me going to be using wp7 figured it was time to start posting more over here.
I will do my best to give a fair review of the phone and what my likes/dislikes are.

dblake15 said:
...I am thinking about picking up the 900 coming from a galaxy nexus. Now my problem is I am a heavy google user especially google voice. Does that work with win 7 and would I have a tough time transitioning to win 7 and the 900...
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The great thing about Google Voice on Android is that it's seamlessly baked in to the OS. Since that is not the case on WP7, you will need to use an app. I use Freetalk, which works well for me and can place calls using my GV phone number. For texting you need to do that using Freetalk's SMS app instead of the Microsoft SMS app. However your incoming text messages will show up in both places.
Windows Phone does have connectivity to your Google Contacts, Mail, and Calendar built in. During setup it will ask you for Google, Yahoo, Outlook/Exchange, Twitter, Hotmail, and / or Facebook accounts. It will then integrate all contacts, mail, and calendar items into your Windows Phone.
As for making the transition, it will take some work. Android and IOS work basically the same way so moving from one to the other isn't very hard. Windows Phone, on the other hand, interacts with the user differently. It also has a minimalist design which looks great, but does not give you a lot of clues as to how to do things.
I would suggest getting yourself a good WP7 book and save yourself the frustration of trying to figure things out on your own. Two good ones are:
Windows Phone 7 Companion by Matthew Miller
Windows Phone 7 Secrets by Paul Thurrott
Also Microsoft's online site for Windows Phone is quite good.

wolfedude88 said:
So I have had just about every android device worth having, I am currently using an iphone 4s, switched from the Galaxy Nexus to use it for a while, it is a nice device, but I just prefer android better.
I have never tried wp7, don't really care for the look of the OS, but I like the looks of the Nokia phone and I have been wanting to try it out. I am open minded to the idea, like I said I love android, I think ios is great too, just like android better.
I am really hoping to like wp7, I like to be able to switch back in forth to different operating systems.
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To be honest, if you don't like the look of the OS, you may not enjoy using the phone regardless of how nice the hardware is. Since you'll be using the OS all the time, you may cringe everytime you use it.
That being said, I didn't like the look of the OS of WP at first and then it grew on me and I really like it now.

uptempo777 said:
To be honest, if you don't like the look of the OS, you may not enjoy using the phone regardless of how nice the hardware is. Since you'll be using the OS all the time, you may cringe everytime you use it.
That being said, I didn't like the look of the OS of WP at first and then it grew on me and I really like it now.
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Honestly that is how I was at first, but the more videos I watch of it the more I like it. It is just something different, it will hopefully just take some time on me.

wolfedude88 said:
Honestly that is how I was at first, but the more videos I watch of it the more I like it. It is just something different, it will hopefully just take some time on me.
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Actually do they already know what the look of Windows Phone 8 Apollo will look like? I'm assuming the UI will be even better.

Apollo?????

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apollo-update-not-coming-to-current-windows-phones
Not looking too promising eh?

I don't think so. First of all, it's too early to say something. Second, if MS will do it, they will completely lost mobile market.

I agree, They aren't doing exactly great at the moment and it would surely destroy them? Time will tell of course but it's interesting all the speculation that goes round before something like this, I hope we do get Apollo or even a lesser version of it, Look at Desktop OS, You have basic through to Ultimate editions although not entirely based on Hardware.

http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-ev...handsets-will-be-upgraded-to-windows-phone-8/

No one know what will happen to our handsets. I'd suggest that you read this article.

I know what's gonna happen to mine, It's heading for ebay and I will be returning to a Maxon MN1 lol.

AndyFZ1S said:
I know what's gonna happen to mine, It's heading for ebay and I will be returning to a Maxon MN1 lol.
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oh dear....
lololololol

Hmmm ? http://gizmodo.com/5902860/every-windows-phone-ever-will-get-the-windows-phone-8-upgrade

Budniu said:
Hmmm ? http://gizmodo.com/5902860/every-windows-phone-ever-will-get-the-windows-phone-8-upgrade
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What about this twist in the tale?
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-8-beta-report-what-features-are-in-place

Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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vetvito said:
Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
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True man, after the HTC HD 2 saga,,here might come the another one, unfortunately I was one of the victim in HD 2 case. Now,sold my Mozart,bought HTC one X...enjoy the phone...
and care-less about it...

Just enjoy what you have till the end of the year, I highly doubt Apollo is going to be rolling in full force before then. Even if it does, I'd bet even more that some form of Apollo'esque update will also be hitting then for our earlier handsets.

Slower than others
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.

Pratzgh1 said:
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
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Going gaga over Ice what?
None of the old phones but one has got ICS after it's announcement nearly half a year ago. If that is going gaga, MSFT is leap years ahead of that.
iOS5 - give you that. Again they have 1 phone to upgrade. Not 5-6 different OEMs with 2-3 phones each!

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Going gaga over Ice what?
None of the old phones but one has got ICS after it's announcement nearly half a year ago. If that is going gaga, MSFT is leap years ahead of that.
iOS5 - give you that. Again they have 1 phone to upgrade. Not 5-6 different OEMs with 2-3 phones each!
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I see what you did there....
please put your ios statement onto android...
Not only 5-6 OEMs and with 50+phone,tied with various carriers...

vetvito said:
Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
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Well said Vetvito,
No doubt we will all end up with the best bit of kit available at the time, personally it will hardly be the end of my world. Besides M$ have been playing this game for years and years, they know their roadmap and we along with the (slow news day) media dont ever have a clue.
There has always been speculation and a healthy amount of bull floating about regarding any update for any O/S or platform........but still i have a Windows phone........shocker huh.
Have a little faith, they havn't exactly shot you in the face yet and they arn't about to knowingly lose money/customer base now are they.
Kind Regards,
Creamy

Yeah it seems even theVerge is now getting on the Apollo updates might actually be happening road

Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP? They decided the time was right to migrate to Vista and cut off support to there "flagship" , that really worked out in there benefit considering more than half of all Windows users are still using XP , XP is 10 years old!!
Personaly I did migrate and am using 7-64 , but dumping the wp7 line for wp8 will alienate all of us who already got onboard , Im dev/interop unlocked , custom rom and if I cant get a custom rom with the update ,I will leave for Android and never look back , my Acer a500 is a year old now and it is better than anything being sold now because I can upgrade /downgrade do anything I want with it , the sky is the limit! In Microsofts world even the sky has limits!

Vintage144 said:
Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP?
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Mmm yeah. It's still the most widely used OS in the world. Not sure how it's F'd up. My parents use it all the time. No complaints.
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Personaly I did migrate and am using 7-64 , but dumping the wp7 line for wp8 will alienate all of us who already got onboard
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Mmm... If XP is any indication I will be using Windows 7 happily for years until I upgrade to whatever comes out after Windows 8. Windowss 8 is going to have zero impact on my computer use for years.
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if I cant get a custom rom with the update ,I will leave for Android and never look back
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MS doesn't care. They sell millions of phones to a bunch of people that will NEVER update them no matter what they offer. The problem is this place is one big geek circle jerk. MS and Nokia want to sell phones to teenage girls and business people. As long as the phone looks cool and covers the basic functions both groups are happy. They are not 20 something male software developers. They just want to text, email, talk, check the weather and play angry birds. The business people also want MS office and some kind of enterprise email calender solution.
They don't want to flash a custom ROM or root a device. If you want to see how the average consumer interacts with tech check out my post HERE.
Pratzgh1 said:
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
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The majority of people I know think "Ice Cream Sandwich" is a desert. This may come as a shock but the majority of smartphone owners to do not hang out on XDA. They do things like go to the park and get some sunlight and fresh air.

Vintage144 said:
Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP? They decided the time was right to migrate to Vista and cut off support to there "flagship" , that really worked out in there benefit considering more than half of all Windows users are still using XP , XP is 10 years old!!
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Just to be clear, they didn't cut support for xp until midway through 2010, and this wasn't to abandon xp for vista. It was after windows 7 was released. They didn't "force" people to use vista, they released something far superior to it, THEN forced you to use it, haha.
Edit: thanks for the next poster correcting this, Microsoft still supports XP and will for two more years.