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Running Windows Mobile on iPhone...it needs to be done!!!

so i was looking at the many iphone knock offs and personally i am not impressed with the hardware, but as i am a pc and not a mac i will never ever use the Mac OSX operating system without an overwhelming feeling of shame as though i have just cheated on my wife; not that i have and would know what that feels like but you get my drift.
my point is gentlemen that we need to collect our talents and intelligence and move toward a break through in modding. I am currently running SNN Lite Edition and am very pleased with it. Upon exploring the OS, i realized that there exist the possibility to expand upon this work and take it to new heights.
to begin with as i said earlier i am running WM6.1 SNN Lite edition, 3rd party apps include SPB Mobile Shell II, Wisbar Advance 3, Advance Config, Network Wizard, Resco Explorer and Photo Viewer, among others. The only 2 of the apps that i mention that have anything to do with what we are and will be discussing are WisBar Advance 3 and SPC MS II.
take a look at the following screen shots, photoshoped so dnt ask me for the ROM i haven't created it...heck i wouldn't even know where to start;
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i mean all we're really talking about here is a mobile version of bootcamp or something to the effect of creating partitions on the iphone hard-drive and then booting into the windows mobile and delete the iphone rom or better yet since one would have to spend so much on buying the device then one could have both OS's running...choosing to booting into one or the other.
But again i wuldnt know where to start so if any of you genii could figure out how to do this then i can assure you, you would go down in modding history.

jus for the hell of it, someone in Development and Hacking started a thread entitled "MUST SEE" about how he found an "iPhone" that runs both the iPhone rom and WM6

it's definitely some kind of chinese iClone obviously.
i suppose the problem here would be drivers for the screen.
also, a whole bunch of the features wouldn't work out that well(visual voicemail, accelerometer)

The only real upside I see is the hardware and that is only until the new devices like the Xperia1 come out.
For pure geek factor I will admit that it would be the bee's knee's though.

So...
Any one seriously consider tackling this on? I wish I had the knowledge to do it, because I would in a HEARTBEAT.
EDIT: Anyone see this yet? Thoughts?
http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1364&page=1

actually it's an iphone...i simply photoshoped screenshots of my phone onto it. i'm running WM6.1 the screen ou see there is Dredd's mobile shell theme for mobile shell 2 and of course the taskbar is vista pocket 2 running on wisbar advance 3...and a WMP11 skin.
but you see my point here...however you want to customize your windows mobile device you can...which you cant do with an iphone...

lemme drop some research some you:
Partioning/Dual-Booting the iphone http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/03/12/dual-booting-the-iphone/
Jailbreaking the easy way:
http://www.ziphone.org/
iphone to have dual-core processor
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/04/23/a-powerpc-in-your-iphone/

dang this iclones seem 2 have better thing than the iphone i mean dual simcard slots,cameras and bluetooth, and running wm6... apple should take some notes...

impossible
Running windows mobile/windowsCE is completely impossible from a end user/hacker point of view for the iphone let alone ANY device that does not run WM/CE. it all comes down to drivers, and the developers(like HTC, Gigabyte...) makes them.
You have to understand each WM ROM is custom made for each device by manufacturers. WM/CE is fully componentised from ground up right down to including keyboard support, so only minimal drivers are included in the ROM to make it small.
So unless you can do programming in low level(010010101010) and have complete access to hardware and chip design then it is impossible to have it boot WM natively.
btw, we are hackers(or some of us are), and we *might* be able to make a device emulator and just emulate WM/CE like on the PC. of course, currently thats next to nothing - as we need an opensource/free emulator for WM/CE that does not exist.
the only way to make it real and feasible is VNC. They did the same thing with Android-on-WM(and i think it works great).

the screen resolution of the iphone is absolute incompatible.

[Q]can anyone put iphone into andriod?

just wanted to know, i dont like iphone my self but i do like there games. one game ive been itching to play is maplestory. XD
so is there one out or is something make one as we speak?

Let the flaming begin

seeing how fandroids get all upset at even the thought of IOS running on an android phone...it doesn't look like theres anyone currently working on this port. The drivers would have to be built from the ground up so it would just be a pain in the ass just for people to reply with rude comments and telling the dev they're wasting their time blah blah blah.
I personally would like to see it done just to see it done, but to answer your question, no.

thought so XD

You have three choices:
1) GTFO, go get an iPhone.
2) GTFO, go load MIUI.
3) GTFO.

drmacinyasha said:
You have three choices:
1) GTFO, go get an iPhone.
2) GTFO, go load MIUI.
3) GTFO.
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Lol that's funny.
Anyway, to answer the question, no. I don't see it happening anytime soon, either...
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.

It would be nice to see it happen just cuz iphone can run android, the 3g atleast im not sure about iphone4
Edit: plus im sure it would make steve jobs cry an im all for that!

Cy_n_ic said:
It would be nice to see it happen just cuz iphone can run android, the 3g atleast im not sure about iphone4
Edit: plus im sure it would make steve jobs cry an im all for that!
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that would make my day, i really dont want and iphone bootloader i just want like one or two of there apps, i wish we could just convert them. XD

Yes, just grab your iphone and place it over your android phone. You now have iphone on android.

jigglywiggly said:
Yes, just grab your iphone and place it over your android phone. You now have iphone on android.
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You do understand android is open source and ios is not.

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i was just going to say this.
the reason why you see WinMo and Ios phones running android and you dont see much with android phones running iOS and WinMo isnt entirely because of the backlash from fanboys.
a lot of it has to do witht he fact that Android is open source so it is much easier to get it up and running on other devices. to be able to modify a non open source OS and get it running on android phones is much more difficult and would take a lot of time and effort. think about it this way.
for the EVO we have a team working on a base android rom (CM) and they still dont have it all working. to make iOS or WinMo fully functioning would be significantly more work then it will take to even get CM fully functioning.

The reason Android is available to run on iPhone is because:
1) There is actually a reason to... iPhone owners realized that Android was better and thus there was demand for it.
2) Android OS is a much more efficient (thus easier to port) OS. It is designed to be flexible... where as iOS is not.
so... given that you have wonderful freedom with your Android, why would you choose to imprison yourself with an inferior OS?

omegasun18 said:
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i was just going to say this.
the reason why you see WinMo and Ios phones running android and you dont see much with android phones running iOS and WinMo isnt entirely because of the backlash from fanboys.
a lot of it has to do witht he fact that Android is open source so it is much easier to get it up and running on other devices. to be able to modify a non open source OS and get it running on android phones is much more difficult and would take a lot of time and effort. think about it this way.
for the EVO we have a team working on a base android rom (CM) and they still dont have it all working. to make iOS or WinMo fully functioning would be significantly more work then it will take to even get CM fully functioning.
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^ This.
Ask anybody that's been involved with the Hackintosh scene for awhile what all is involved in getting a non open source OS running on hardware it wasn't designed for. I'm sure it's no walk in the park.

edufur said:
The reason Android is available to run on iPhone is because:
1) There is actually a reason to... iPhone owners realized that Android was better and thus there was demand for it.
2) Android OS is a much more efficient (thus easier to port) OS. It is designed to be flexible... where as iOS is not.
so... given that you have wonderful freedom with your Android, why would you choose to imprison yourself with an inferior OS?
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No offense but you sound like a fanboy more than anything else.

Get an iPod touch then you have the best of both worlds. Thats what I do.

[Q] MIUI....anyone run this through a microscope?

I started hearing about the ROM over on some Dell Streak blogs and had a thought I was worried about...but wonder if I am just being paranoid.
Where is MIUI from? Is this in some actual consumer phone that is on a major network? Has anyone actually met these people that wrote this?
I see on their website that they are working with some of the devs here and supposedly have submitted the FM app to Cyanogen:
http://www.miui.com/thread-1687-1-1.html (Not much more than that page unless you can read Chinese which I cannot.)
I guess my paranoia sets in when I see things come out like this fully baked and being adopted blindly by the masses. We saw games just last year that were doing random calls and that was from a site people trusted.
Sorry if this seems tinfoil hatty, but really what better way to sink a trojan/backdoor into a ton of phones than to release a super cool looking bit of software that no-one is really going to dig through and vette? So my question is do people here really trust this software? Have the Dev's torn it apart enough to feel they know everything in it?

It's an AOSP-based ROM developed by some Chinese folks to make their phones into KIRF iPhones.

I at one point thought the same thing about it. I thought about where it came from, and all the jazz with the same paranoid mindset. Then I thought about it more, and realized I wouldn't be doing anything on my phone that would be of any interest to anyone. I'm sure its probably legit. There are other poeple that have had to go through and port it to English and more fun stuff. I would assume they have taken a decent look at it.

Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.

Yes, you're being a bit "tinfoil hatty." Google MIUI dev and you'll see the english forum from xda members that are dedicated to this rom's development. I'm sure that they have broken down most of the rom and you can get more information there.

phatmanxxl said:
But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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I how you' re trying (unsuccessfully) to be funny. Here's a newsflash, there are android geeks, honest ones even, all over the world!!
Really, if the Chinese were trying to gather information via some device that millions upon millions of Americans would use (and no, that would not be the MIUI on Android), they would probably tap the ipod, iphone, and ipad - all of which are made in China.
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phatmanxxl said:
Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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ROFLMAO !
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Don't wanna say much but watch this guy!

I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp

Well, I can't take a quy serious who calls it Windows Mobile 8 and this vid is also quite heavily biased. And you will also quickly notice his main interest: good hardware specs.

I couldn't even get past the the first 40 seconds.
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Cant believe you made me click on that link and add to his view counts!

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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I want to thank you SO MUCH for this link, that clicking on the THANKS button IS NOT ENOUGH!:laugh:

"Windows Mobile 8"
wtf...
he also says that only "Windows Mobile 8" devices are gonna be able to acces gmail... wtf

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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Lolz, 40 secs wasted on my life~ XD

That dumbass deleted my comments...
u__u

Thanks for the lulz xD

What a moron, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
Android fanboy.

This guy is a complete idiot! Waste of my time especially with the Windows Mobile reference and the Gmail app piece. And he says Windows Mobile never compared to Android. It's because Android wasn't around when it came out. And they minimized Windows onto a phone in like 2000...Windows Mobile:laugh:

I managed to get a good 3min out of that before his voice and general lack of any intelligence what so ever got the better of me, forcing me to try stab my screen with a pitch folk when ever he opened his month.
I am amazed that such inbreeding still goes on in western countries, which surely must be the only reason for such a mentally challenged presenter.
Ill happily list anyone valid pros and cons of any device and remain completely objective whilst doing it AND putting aside that WP suites my needs best, why cant people who put them selves in that position at least attempt to be impartial?!
unless of course that was his sole aim!
To get all clear thinking people flapping about him being a complete nob.
In which case my friend, you have exceled yourself

I was waiting for him to start signing the Barbie Girl song.

renatofontes said:
That dumbass deleted my comments...
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He deleted both of my comments too.

he is funny,total android fanboy.
first he cry about wp7 phones that can't be updated to wp8 (that is actually a bummer) and hoe stupid MS is
and about 5 min later he cry's about 10 min long how bad verison is that he can't get ics on his phones
F*****ing nope if you ask me , they actually sould ban him from the internet and take away all phones he has , give him a brick to use for calling

Getting him an Aligator would be enough
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for those who are not familiar with it

This guy is clearly tripping on something. I found this video hilarious.

I watched about 40 seconds, wrote a vile reply that most likely will be erased and left. It hurt to watch that bull****.

He needs a Kleenex.

With everyone trying to sit through it, I decided to as well. Horrible presenter - not much in the way of facts or information, he just 'feels bad' about Win8. All I could think throughout the time I could stand was CAGE MATCH!!! Let's see how this fanboi stands up to a WP fanboi... err, whatever we call General the Destroyer [FONT=&quot]http://www.youtube.com/user/generalthedestroyer
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When can we get unlocked bootloader?

There's no topic for it,so here it is.
Please let the Fire TV XDA community know when the exploit for unlocking the bootloader becomes available.
Just post the link to it when it comes out.
I hope it is not too expensive because I don't have that much freely spendable cash (I think less than 10$) to buy a money card to transfer it to PayPal.
I really wish that it was free,or that I could do something helpful to get it for free.

retroben said:
There's no topic for it,so here it is.
Please let the Fire TV XDA community know when the exploit for unlocking the bootloader becomes available.
Just post the link to it when it comes out.
I hope it is not too expensive because I don't have that much freely spendable cash (I think less than 10$) to buy a money card to transfer it to PayPal.
I really wish that it was free,or that I could do something helpful to get it for free.
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I too wish it would come out, but If i were to ask for something unknown.... I would ask for tomorrows lottery numbers instead of when the bootloader will be out. why? have you got those lottery numbers? lol

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Where is that DAMN 1st bootloader unlocker!
Please help us out,JCase can you please say something about it?

retroben said:
Where is that DAMN 1st bootloader unlocker!
Please help us out,JCase can you please say something about it?
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It will be out, patience must be a virtue.
@jcase mentioned it on his twitter recently: https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/482768021904048128
He also showed a custom recovery running on the fireTV via @rbox: https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/483444034854060033
So Please calm down, wait for the devs due their work and fix the bugs!

Thank you mastermind... Well said.
Also, am I the only one that thinks the 25$ Sunshine app is worth that price.. Cause I will buy it to be able to unlock the boot loader, an then be able to install a custom ROM, tweaked for xbmc and controllers.. Keep up the good work guys. Thanks. ?

LittleBear1981 said:
Thank you mastermind... Well said.
Also, am I the only one that thinks the 25$ Sunshine app is worth that price.. Cause I will buy it to be able to unlock the boot loader, an then be able to install a custom ROM, tweaked for xbmc and controllers.. Keep up the good work guys. Thanks. ?
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I've contemplated compiling a pure AOSP rom for FireTV. As for one "tweaked for xbmc"... what doesn't the stock rom do if you use my xposed module to make it the launcher?

I would like to try a AOSP ROM for the fire TV.. I am a fan of minimal and linux operating systems.. That I can mod to my hearts content.
I love having XBMC as my launcher.. Yes! Awesome! Thanks.
But that's basically it.. As stripped down as it can possibly be.. No frills, all about efficiency. No files for things not part of the original device.. Like mobile data apps.. NFC.. mms.. Blah blah..
But I would like to have the ability to mount an external drive as 'android' system folder.. Would a symbolic link work? Needs to be available at boot I would think.
Like on my Linux box or way back when I started with windows..
One drive is for the OS the other is for 'home' in Linux, or in windows for all other data..
I'd like to figure a way to do the same thing with the fire TV.. Internal storage just for the OS, external for all else.. Settings, installed apps, data..
That way.. In theory if the hardware fails.. A new device with the old drive would become an 'instant' restore.. With your data and apps intact.
Cameras, controllers, and light pack.. The ambilight clone.. works with android but not the fire TV.. Are among other things I am thinking of..
Hope that makes some sense.. Its late and I must retire for the night.

LittleBear1981 said:
I'd like to figure a way to do the same thing with the fire TV.. Internal storage just for the OS, external for all else.. Settings, installed apps, data..
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That's not really how Android works. I think maybe you want to just run a Linux dist on the Fire TV instead...

Oh. I had kinda figured maybe.. I need to brush up on my understanding on android.. Lol..
I've been using Linux as my daily driver for years.. Even had my parents using Linux.. They did not care to understand what it is or means or does..
Now.. We all have android devices.. I've modded, rooted, tweaked a few of them.. Now.. The fire TV..
If you make that rom.. I am willing to try it.. And like I said.. The 25$ is well worth it to me Sunshine.