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I think wm is dead, let's get android! or is it just me

just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver

Yep, it's just you.

I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en

tonyb15re said:
I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en
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*drools* i can't wait for this to be released

I think windows mobile is gonna be around for a while yet until something else more stable & reliable comes along. Going by the phone in link above, WM is here to stay for quite some time!!

kaalgoosy said:
just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver
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You can jailbreak an iphone and install a ton of useful apps today already...
I'm waiting for the next iphone with 3G and hopefully built in GPS.

Blonde jailbait?

The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime

C Brown said:
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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ROFL, hey Charlie, the "sickest" device?

penguin20000 said:
*drools* i can't wait for this to be released
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Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?

C Brown said:
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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See its specification, if the price is as rumors around 700$ the Xperia X1 will be a killer of all other WM devices. I wonder why HTC doesn´t have any revolution model up coming. I prefer the high resolution display and small smart design.

Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html

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Blonde jailbait?
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sacwoo said:
Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?
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$399----wow, that is a low estimate. if the tytn i is still going for 400 i think the the x1 will be around 800-1000 when it first comes out.

jamal1782 said:
Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html
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Hmmm an iphone with WM on it, what a bad combination!!!! Oh and worst of all no keyboard, no use whatsoever as a business device... Nice toy if you like poking your screen with a stylus or smearing it with fingerprints...

I believe the expected release date for the xperia 1 is early 2009

I phoned the Sony Shop in the UK they said mid year.

excellent, I'm due a new phone bout then!

Windows mobile will die if microsoft doesn't quit being lazy
Windows mobile will die. Have you guys ever really thought about this operating system we're running on our hand helds. back inthe day you had desktops pushing 166mhz and running full installs of windows 95 and in some cases I've even seen 98 on that processor. And those system ran applicatiosn and did so with not much problems.
in 2008 many years in the future we have our handsets pushing 400mhz processors (hermes) and yet it lags when you chcange screen orientation. It lags to answer a phone call if your in landscape orientation.
That is utter rubbish. Microsoft got windows mobile code wrong the firstst ime it was bloated. The reason why it'll never improve exponentially is because microsoft does not like to do things over they will forever build up ontop of a bloated operating system.
We see the same thing happening in the desktop counteer part of their operating system. If android can drop a proper user interface to make users comfortable with using the device Then i see no reason why it wouldn't superceed windows mobile
hardware vendors would be more than happy if this was the case as licensing for windows mobile cost an arm and a leg.
but really think about it
166mhz ran a whole computers operating system with various application 400mhz can barely run the windows mobile operating system properly.
Thats just disgusting.

WM is already changing due to other operators including Apple, and they need to as people expect reliable, functional operating systems.
Yes I agree, microsoft are lazy, but with the introduction of android, apple etc, I think (hope) they are actually starting to sit up and take action.
If they come back with another unreliable WM then, people will start to look elsewhere and microsoft will be in trouble. Lets just hope they take note and sort it out now

O..M..G WM7 Hysteria !!!

I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards

did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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Its only adding to it because there are people around who can't behave them selfs..
Thats how the "Game Over" tread got destroyed..
Neverthless this is a forum.. this is where we discus things.. but in a well ballanced way..

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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1st i was thinking to wirte it on some already opened Thread but honestly they are ALOT and its hard to choice where to write exactly.
The best thing is to open New Thread many peoples to be able to see and eventualy stop with this crazy hysteria till the WM7 is out and we can test it by ourselfs.

Indeed, There is now way you know if WP7 is great or not so great. The OS is not tested by anyone, only a prebuild seen at a conference more than a half year before release. There is nothing known about how open the platform is, what kind of multitask it has, etc, etc.
More than half of the treads here are from people who are bashing WP7, without knowing what it will be at the end. People who are bashing the HD2 because it wont have an official update, and so on. :')
We will know much more at MIX, and you can decide for yourself if it's nice, when there are rom's here at xda. (they will after all, also for the HD2)

You can't stop people from spectaculating what the new OS will be or not. But I agree it's ridiculous to open new threads like "do you prefer WM 6.5 or WP7" when noone never had the chance to use it before. I also don't feel very comfortable with the things I've seen so far but it's even more ridiculous to write things along the line "WP7 sucks I switch to Android" because at this point noone knows what the OS will really be in the end.

If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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still no reason to overact on it. You buy a phone if you need it now. If you buy a phone that's meant to run a OS that currently doesn't even exist then it's actually your own fault, not HTC's or Microsoft's.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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Why do they have to say that? Will they have to say there will be no iphone os, android or palmos update? When you buy your pc do they have to say it wont have an update to Windows 8? (juli 2011)

tsalta said:
I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards
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I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
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Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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drownage said:
nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

[Q] Windows 7 on HTC Evo?

I figured sense the Evo is similar to the HD2 and the HD7 and they run windows 7 is it possible to make a rom that will port windows 7 OS to the Evo...Just a thought, I really like the OS and I want to at lest try it...BTW there not going to be a W7 phone on sprint for some time...What do you guys think?

Jaimemex said:
I figured sense the Evo is similar to the HD2 and the HD7 and they run windows 7 is it possible to make a rom that will port windows 7 OS to the Evo...Just a thought, I really like the OS and I want to at lest try it...BTW there not going to be a W7 phone on sprint for some time...What do you guys think?
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First, before you get hammered, this question belongs in Q&A, not the development section.
It sounds interesting and would be cool to see it happen but I don't think it would be easy. Each driver would have to be ported to the phone and such.
Possible but unlikely but who knows? There as some amazing devs out there.

Jaimemex said:
I figured sense the Evo is similar to the HD2 and the HD7 and they run windows 7 is it possible to make a rom that will port windows 7 OS to the Evo...Just a thought, I really like the OS and I want to at lest try it...BTW there not going to be a W7 phone on sprint for some time...What do you guys think?
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Why do you feel this question belongs in this forum? And like ricsim said, possible but unlikely. Take a lot of work to do such a thing, and the devs seem pretty busy lately, trying to port something like that would post pone their current work.

Thats funny because just the other day I figured sense the Evo is similar to the HD2 and the HD7 and they run windows 7 is it possible to make a rom that will port windows 7 OS to the Evo...Just a thought, I really like the OS and I want to at lest try it...BTW there not going to be a W7 phone on sprint for some time...What do you guys think?

[email protected] said:
Thats funny because just the other day I figured sense the Evo is similar to the HD2 and the HD7 and they run windows 7 is it possible to make a rom that will port windows 7 OS to the Evo...Just a thought, I really like the OS and I want to at lest try it...BTW there not going to be a W7 phone on sprint for some time...What do you guys think?
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This made me LOL. WRONG FORUM YOU FOO'!

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you again! lol

Haha sorry man, I couldn't help myself.....
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it's kool bro lol

This might not be too bad of an idea. Have any of you nay-sayers actually used a WP7 device? I would bet no. It's not a phone that could replace my EVO, but the interface is kinda cool. It would be neat to dual boot WP7 - just because. It saves you from having to buy an expensive WP7 to use it infrequently. I think it's a cool idea, but I don't think there is support for it.

I would also love to see this idea come around, more as another ROM for our phones than anything else, just because I would like to try the interface and I like the idea of having Xbox LIVE on my phone, as well as having a choice of OS's, like Sense and AOSP. Maybe someone out there would like to contribute some time to this?

Windows 7, no. The NT kernel is x86/x64.
Windows Phone 7, technically it meets the requirements, but that's what the HD7 and other WP7 phones are for.

Windows Phone 7, of course. The title of this thread is a little off (Sorry OP). And yes, while we could all certainly go buy Windows Phone 7 devices, why would we do so if our EVOs that we already have are more than capable of handling it?

In terms of specs, the Evo meets the requirement. But there is no other way right now to flash a different OS on the Evo like there was in the case of the HD2 booting Android. There is a tablet coming out or is already out that can dual boot Android and WindowsCE6. So we might be able to find something from that if anything comes out of it. But it wouldn't do any good right now even if WP7 was running on the Evo, you need the genuine Windows phone services, which the HD2 doesn't have since it's not a certified Windows 7 phone.

You can flash Ubuntu to the EVO, I would define that as a different OS.

Ubuntu is also a unix based linux OS like Android. Windows 7 Phone isn't. You're not really flashing Ubuntu on there either, you're really just loading it onto the SD card like you would for Android on the HD2. There were and are tools available for WinMo 6.5 to boot linux on that device and other WinMo devices, but nothing like that for Android devices to boot up CE kernels and OS.

Simple answer:
Not going to happen.
Why?
Android is open. The devs can modify the source to tailor it to a device. Windows Mobile and iOS are not.[/thread]

There won't ever be a worthwhile WP7 port unless you can remove the stick from M$'s butt, because as Team DFT put it "Microsoft's Genuine Software check will basically disable all cloud based services like Zune, Marketplace and Xbox Live if the system can't pull a valid key from the handset's motherboard."
Which means, if your device wasn't pre-loaded with WP7, WP7 won't work on your device. Now they have ported it to other phones, and run it, calls, ect. They just can't access the materials that make WP7 what it is.
So you will need to expect to buy and install a mod chip in your Evo to trick a future WP7 port into thinking your phone is a WP7 phone, or you will need to accept the fact that no phone other than a WP7 phone will be able to fully utilize the software.

Fake iphone to android

Hey guys i need help
My cousin bought fake iphone 4 (MC61OLL) with strange software (KINGSTAR35_68B_HW)
What i wana know is can i put android on it?
thanks for help

Easy. Reverse engineer the phone's OS and rewrite it for linux, write a kernel, then compile. You may need to do some hardware modifying to be able to load the android...
Or an easier way is to buy a real android device. Seriously.

he wanted a cheap phone for his son...
oke thank you
can i find somewhere steps or?

I think that the steps should be very difficult...you can jailbreak it if you want but i dont think that you can change the iOS into Android 2.3.x

its not the iOS I think that it is some kind of java software based on android

just buy a new iphone

wow take the guy down a notch realy. sorry but hounding the guy cause he asked a question isn't very nice I understand everyone isn't nice. but really. here's what you need to do send me a pm with the specs of the phone maybe if it is running a version of android you can install a diff luancher. unless you have an idea don't just kick the guy when he is down. please grow up.sorry if this offends anyone but lets be civil. I can do some research for you I am not a developer nor do I plane on being one. just remember the g tablet viewsonic put out it was **** but now. that was my first android device. I. have a few of them and know a few developers. just pm me thanks

mmmm I think tht if is not iOS it wuold possible to delete it and re-install another one...mmmm how??? XD

So it appears that you have the knock-off HiPhone or SciPhone. Which seems not run Android, but a form of Java. This would generally mean you are stuck with that system unless you could port android which would depend on the specs. So what are the Technical Details of this device??
In my opinion this entire process might be a long and fruitless mission but that is only my opinion Its your choice entirely!!

Porting android is not easy
If you're a programmer and are willing to put in 100's of hours finding and compiling the right drivers, then maybe, but its not worth it to invest all this hours in some Chinese crap, there are enough cheap android devices.

Itz very difficult dude.100 hours I think that it takes more more more hours if you are a good programmer.anyway yu could ask on web to someone to do this kind of job paying money...You think??

no you cant

Fake Iphone
Hi,
I have a fake Iphone, and before you tell me to get a new phone, I already have an android. I just want a challenge as an aspiring developer.
The specs are:
Capacity: 32G
Version: F6A_CLD_IV_SA1G256_10A_MSFWR_200W_V3-2_V0
It is a Chinese phone running some type of JAVA software.
I am willing to put in time to find and/or create the right drivers and roms, but I would need help in this project. If anyone can assist me with information, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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den xerw pws na to egatastisw epeidh to thl emfanizetai san flasaki sto pc..!!!

Graf Kiky said:
Hey guys i need help
My cousin bought fake iphone 4 (MC61OLL) with strange software (KINGSTAR35_68B_HW)
What i wanna know is can i put android on it?
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It's already installed!
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One of my clients gave me one of these, it's pretty clever, looks a lot like iOS 8.0.2. But is is most likely KitKat, and it's running a Go Launcher theme that it pretty convincing. I installed ES Explorer, it's definitely not iOS, with a clearly Android FS. Whoever made this, it was a lot of work - They were able to make a totally authentic iPhone 6, but one thing prevents any version of iOS- iboot. All I can say is HAHAHA!
Hell, I don't care about activating it, it's probably impossible, but I'd like to find the drivers for it so I can load it up with my Android goodies. I guess I'll just use Es Explorer to connect to my SMB and grab what I need.
My ZTE phone has the drivers accessible if powered down. Yes, when I power down, it comes up as MT65xx preloader. It came up with these, but I still can't read the mounted drives:
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Bro download kingroot.. See the device information... It will be based on meditek... So just note down the model and download a custom rom for that model.. Simple...