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When I finally decided to upgrade my HTC Tilt to the new Tilt 2, never tought all the problems that this will bring.
The first unit was purchased on 2.14.10 at ATT local store. Two weeks later I decided to change the unit because of the many problems encounter.
It's been now two more weeks and this new phone is worst than the first one. I have to do a soft reset at least two times a day. Taskmanager is often gone from my Today screen or any other application.
I have installed a couple of software found around here, but decided to installed all of them to check if the were the problem. They were not.
Yesterday, I finally decided to do a hard reset and start from scratch without any installed software, other that the bloatware included from att.
The problems persist. The phone keeps stalling/freezing over any application. The emails are not being pulled from gmail, hotmail or yahoo (I have 6 configured emails).
What do you guys recommend for this. Doing another hard reset right now it's no easy task since I have to reconfigure all emails, lose SMS, etc.
I was very anxious to get my hands on this phone but it's been a nightmare from day one. My first Tilt was more stable by far.
Thanks for any suggestions, I just have to get this out of me.
It could be any number of things causing your problems.
I myself was very disappointed with my Rhodium when I got it. Was slow, glitchy.
After alot of reading and researching, I found it was most likely due to memory leakage. And that most devices come with a modified/branded ROM from the service provider.
I found that flashing a stock HTC/cooked ROM solved most of the issues. And using an app called 'cleanRAM' freed up alot of memory.
If you dont mind losing your warranty, then I suggest flashing a newer/better ROM. And using cleanRAM to free up any leaked memory instead of a soft reset each time
First things first, install SSK dynamic proxy CAB, Nopushinternet CAB, and AT&T tilt2 speed fix.
My first month of owning TP2 I felt very similar, having to reset every couple days. Now my phone only gets reset when I remove the battery or run out of battery (its been on for about 2 weeks now). CleanRAM is a great utility, but I suggest purchasing SSK Tools for its other great programs (autoclean, registry editor, task manager, program manager...basically this thing is great for tweaking your phone.
I would suggest reading around on the forums, looking at all the stickies, and searching for other users who have the same issues as you. This phone is a great phone, but like you have come to realize, it really needs to be tweaked for its full potential to be released.
Thanks for the suggestions!
ATT just confirm that my phone qualify for a replacement. Mine have a small square white sticker in the battery compartment. This seems to be the key of identify units with problems. I got the feeling that the next new unit is going to suffer the same problems.
I'm willing to work it out and tweak my tilt 2.
Only for a minute I consider to go for the BB bold 9700 but it's not even close.
Definately this forum was key when deciding to upgrade to my tilt 2.
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for the suggestions!
ATT just confirm that my phone qualify for a replacement. Mine have a small square white sticker in the battery compartment. This seems to be the key of identify units with problems. I got the feeling that the next new unit is going to suffer the same problems.
I'm willing to work it out and tweak my tilt 2.
Only for a minute I consider to go for the BB bold 9700 but it's not even close.
Definately this forum was key when deciding to upgrade to my tilt 2.
Keep up the good work!
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All phones have the white sticker. It is how AT&T makes sure your phone has not been water damaged. It turns pink when exposed to water. You most likely aren't experiencing an issue that is specific to your phone.
All Tilt2s are horribly slow and people here just don't want to admit it. It is using the SAME processor as your original tilt, just only clocked at 528MHz instead of 400MHz but it has to drive a much higher resolution screen. Also, either WM6.5 or HTCs implementation of it on the Tilt2 is crap. It wastes memory like no other. I haven't used other WM6.5 phones so I don't know which it is.
I really like my Tilt2's appearance and absolutely love its keyboard but I hate the hardware in it. The crappyness of the OS (either due to 6.5 itself or HTCs implementation) does not help either.
I actually just found a REALLY good deal on a Telus Motorola Milestone on eBay, just $475 after Bing Cashback! I ordered it and can't wait to get it! It has a worse keyboard but its processor is a bit better and Android has surpassed WM.
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I actually just found a REALLY good deal on a Telus Motorola Milestone on eBay, just $475 after Bing Cashback! I ordered it and can't wait to get it! It has a worse keyboard but its processor is a bit better and Android has surpassed WM.
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So your bragging about a phone you do not even have in your possession yet ? can you hack it? how many custom roms are there for it ? how big is the forum dedicated this phone ? why is this the first time i have ever heard about it ? seriously please answer ALL my questions
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So your bragging about a phone you do not even have in your possession yet ? can you hack it? how many custom roms are there for it ? how big is the forum dedicated this phone ? why is this the first time i have ever heard about it ? seriously please answer ALL my questions
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because you know it by its other name, DROID.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Motorola-MILESTONE-US-phone-p_4331.html
That Motorola looks good!
Well, after your recomendations and some extra browsing around here, I decided to hard reset my Tilt 2 again and start from scratch. I have installed all the recommend software and only have one freeze up today while updating the Stocks.
Ram usage is at 55-60% most of the times.
I have also decided not to exchange my phone again, ATT was offering a refurbished unit and mine is new.
I'll stick with for now with the Win 6.5 Rom, maybe there's an update or patch coming up.
I have develop extra patience since using my Acer Aspire One with Intel Atom processor, this thing also get really slow at times...
I'm planning to get a new phone within the next several weeks and would greatly appreciate some answers to a couple of Desire (or just general Android) related questions. I'm torn between HD2 and the Desire at the moment, but since I've been using WinMo for a couple of years now I (kinda) know what to expect if I go for the larger screen . Saw both at a store the other day and was quite impressed by both.
I've tried Android a couple of times on my Touch Pro, but there are certain things that are just different compared to a proper Android device - for example the handling of USB connection and SD card.
1. How's the battery life generally? I'm quite happy with the Touch Pro's battery, even though people seem to think they run out too easily (less than a day?). The phone can go for 2+ days with moderate use.
2. Will there be more hunt for the perfect radio and ROM (as per tradition )? Not that I mind trying out custom ROMs. Similarly, will there be registries or something similar to change app settings?
3. How's AVI playback on the Desire? Now I understand that last time I checked the Android had some problem playing xvid files. I do watch movies on my phone, so I was wondering how players (yxflash?) handle the usual 350mb TV eps at the moment.
4. Can I mount my SD as mass storage on PC ala WinMo HTC phones such as the Touch Pro? Also, would I be able to do internet sharing either via USB or bluetooth?
5. Is there a way to install apps or tweaks ala CABs? I've tried out the market and while it's nice and easy to use, will that be the only way to install apps or tweaks?
6. At the store I felt that the Desire (and the HD2) was very sensitive to touch. The slightest touch fired off a click on the screen, which I suspect was due of the newer capacitive screens. Is there a way to tone this down so that more pressure is required to interact with the screen? Also, I'm guessing finger nails probably won't work now?
7. Is the phone casing durable? From the demo unit I got the impression that the front panel/casing of the phone is quite delicate.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback current Desire users might provide and look forward to what everyone has to say. Thank you.
1. Battery life is good enough for a day's good use. You could stretch to two with much less use. My Touch Pro needed charging daily as does my Desire.
2. Desire's cannot be flashed reliably from what I gather at the moment.
3. Not tested
4. SD card as usb drive yes and tethering yes.
5. Apps can be installed manually just have to tick the option in the settings.
6. The Touch Pro is resistive and the screen reacts like a button, needing pressure. Capacitative screens need no pressure and work by detecting the charge disruption caused by electrically active bodies.
7. Seems reasonable
Il answer what i can , from my view point. I love this phone and in my eyes, there is not one phone on the market at the moment that is better.
1) Battery is fine, as you say with touchpro, are there people who say o it rubbish it doesnt last a day, but it does if you use your brain, i get mine to last a day with heavy use, 2 or 3 days if i want to conserve it.
3) Rubbish, xvid isnt supported, there rumours it suppose to be in the future but doubt it for a while. However, if you want to convert your files, they work fine on the desire, specially with the beauitufl screen.
4) Yes, when you plug your phone in via usb you get list come up ( you can set a default if you want) their, just charge, htc sync (the htc sync software for email accounts etcc...) mount sd card ( mounts it as a removeable device, just like a usb stick) internet sharing ( to share the 3g on your phone with laptop/pc)
6) I dont think so, but i might be wrong, however i dont see it being a problem, the touch is fine, if worried about it going off in your pocket it wont. Only problem is touching the hardware power button when its off, a v ery light touch turns the phone on, which is anoying. finger nails do work.
7) Yes and no, people say it not to hard, however i have dropped it about 4 or 5 times, and not a scratch on it all the way around. Iv had it since end of march, and only had screen protector on it for about a week, no case or anything, and it all nice and shiny and not scratched, and im a student, been out with me while iv been drunk etc.. no issues. Only issue is screen get dirty very quickly, but nothing a wipe from your top doesnt solve.
Hope this helped, msg me or post on here if you want to now more.
But get the desire!
Right I'll have a go at answering some of those...
1. After installing a program called UltimateJuice (cost me about £2) I can get usually around 36 hours out of the battery now. That's with push email, things such as weather, Facebook etc updating every hour along with fairly heavy texting and internet, and the odd phone call. Overall I'm very happy with the battery but it really varies depending how much you use it.
2. Well there definitely are custom ROMs and the like available. I've not really felt the need to install one so far, but I will consider it if HTC decide to take ages to update us to Android 2.2. Google update Android fairly frequently but HTC have a habit of taking ages to offer updates. They say they've learned from past mistakes and should be much better at it now, though.
3. I've not tried any AVI files so far, only MP4. They play well and look great. Really hammer the battery though. I can get about 4 hours of good quality video playback. YXFlash works but lots of people say performance isn't that great. There's a thread in this forum somewhere called DivX support on Froyo or similar. Check that thread out for lots of discussion. HTC did say we'd be getting DivX support but who knows if we actually will.
4. Yes, when you connect your phone to the PC you can either charge only, mount as disk drive or a couple of other options. You can have it ask you each time or set a default preference.
5. You can download APK files from anywhere. For example, somebody on here posted an APK for a different version of Youtube with slightly different preference options to the one that comes with the Desire. It's not on the market but I just downloaded the APK, copied it to the phone's SD card and then installed it that way.
6. I've not seen an option to reduce the sensitivity of the screen. Could be wrong though. I quite like how it is so I've never gone looking for one.
7. It feels sturdy enough to me. Different people have different expectations though I guess.
Thanks for the feedback everyone. The phone seems to be inline with my expectations. I'm not too worried about battery life, and who knows - I might even see a nice improvement over my TP judging from the opinion around the forum. Regarding durability, is the phone generally more/less durable than the Nexus One? I've seen those N1 drop test videos, and that phone seems to be pretty tough. But I've also read about cracked screens...
For me the biggest issue is probably video playback. I don't like to transcode my movies, and have been copying AVIs over for playback ever since I got my first WM device (HTC Magician ). I guess this is something to think about and take into consideration (the HD2 seems to handle AVIs quite well, as expected), though I did read about a possible DivX update further down the road.
I've been reading about people complaining that apps taking up space in main memory. Is there a memory problem (pre 2.2 anyway) because I was under the impression that there's more than enough space without using SD (again, not too sure from my experience with TP Android).
Also, I forgot to ask about the GPS performance of the device. Coming from the Touch Pro let me tell you that even after countless radio flashes my TP's reception is still spotty and "moody" . Do I still need to initialize the GPS in a sort of test application and wait (sometimes for ages) to get a fix before using apps such as Google Maps?
Ive had wm since the 6600 with my last being the tp2. With that said, i now have the desire, and i am seriously think about going back and getting the HD2. Im just sooooo use to wm im personally having a hard time with desire and its problems. Battery life isnt great, bluetooth is horrible, and the sd card issue is driving me nuts. I really miss the file explorer and that i can play just about any video i wanted. This weekend im flashing to a generic desire rom if that doesnt work im selling it asap.
This is a telstra version au.
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GPS is much quicker to lock on my Desire than my TouchPro ever was. Keeps a good lock even in the city centre with high buildings all around. Google Navigator is free and does a decent job even when on GPRS. Co-Pilot is my preferred sat-nav so far.
AVI to MP4 converters are pretty quick and playback is smooth on the Desire.
The shell of the phone is pretty solid but not like the surround of the TP. My old TP's back chipped when I dropped it though!
To the OP...
I'm selling my HD2 if you want it? 3 months old, fully stock and unbranded WWE unit...
Let me know if you're interested (or anyone else for that matter)
@khshapiro: Yes I know the feeling. I've got my favourite music player, movie, file explorer etc. which I figure would run on the HD2 without too much problem. My main gripe with the TP is its "small" screen (hey, 2.8' was the norm back then, but soon after screens got bigger ). Also, the hardware keyboard has been acting up.
What kind of SD card problem are you referring to? I've tried out the Astro File Explorer and it seems to fit the role just fine. Hmm, doesn't the phone come with it's own file browser? By the way, I'm probably getting one from Telstra too (either the HD2 or this phone), or perhaps an international version.
@ls1971: good to hear that there is no more drama and satellite hunts .
The Desire doesn't come with a file manager 'out the box' - I use RootExplorer (rooted) and EStrongs File Manager
i downloaded a "file explorer" from the app store but its not as good as the wm explorer. do the search on desire sd card problems, sometimes it stops reading the card and says its damaged ,asking for a reformat and required a few turn ons and offs to fix. the Bluetooth issue is sometimes your bluetooth will work sometimes it wont. its a real pain if you use you phone as your mp3 player with a bluetooth headset. i "hear" they may be comming out with a fix for it but google still refuses to admit there is a problem and to contact telstra.i bought my phone outright and am using vodafone sim.......... word of advice stay away from the desire until the problems are worked out or it comes with 2.2. i had zero problems with my touch pro 2 , unlike my touch pro with i had 19 replacements. i went with the desire because it was new and smaller (thinner) than the tp2. i am selling my desire after this weekend if i cant fix it and buying an unlocked tmobile hd2. seriously read up on the problems. if you never plan on using a bluetooth stereo headset and dont care about your sd card not reading all the time or bloatware then get the telstra desire...............
There are no apps to speak of for the HD2 surely?
do not get the HD2, The biggest problem i had with the device (among others) is that the screen stops reacting now and then.
So while typing sms sometimes i have to stop for a second or 2 and then i could start again. Thats why i changed my HD2 to a desire!
Hmm now I'm confused . I was pretty set on getting the Desire despite lack of AVI playback (for now) but after reading about the problems I'm not so sure.. I don't use any BT device, but that SD card corruption problem seems to be widespread and serious, and I do use the SD storage alot.
What SD card problem ? I got.my desire only a few days ago to replace my 3gs and I love it .it is far.more stable than any wm device ever made
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Never had any SD card problems either.
Hi and Welcome. I am going to take my opportunity to put my pennies worth in as i've owned the tp2, hd2 (amongst others) and now a desire. I have to say that, if i'm honest i preferred the tp2 to the hd2, despite the better hardware in terms of the processor and screen size. The problem is simple, Win Mo is just not suited well to capacitive screens. Once you get to a page where you're trying to tap on them little radio boxes you'll quickly get frustrated. The same goes for using opera, i found the screen to be really inaccurate a lot of the time and browsing was a really frustrating experience. I very quickly found myself getting annoyed with it. Text entry was another bug bear, on a tp2, the keyboard is absolutely second to none, just about the best, and you'll be moving to a hd2 which, again, due to a wildly inaccurate screen, has to be THE most awkward phone in the world to text on, and its partly due to the size of the screen. It can be quite hard, unless you have huge hands, to reach over the whole screen with one thumb of one hand.
I now have jumped from win mo to android with a desire, it has been a learning curve, but not a bad one. I have to say that for me at least it's about as good as you can get.
Also, i feel that android is very future proof, its fairly new, and arguably better than most mobile OS's and is evolving rapidly. I keep my ear very firmly on the mobile pulse and i believe its the way forward. I just hope to god that HTC don't hang around for too long rolling out the updates, as this is my only concern.
From what I've read, SD cards may get corrupted from time to time and become unreadable (especially when you connect the phone to the PC). Sometimes a restart solves the problem, while other times you simply end up with a non working card. I've read reports about this from around the net as khshapiro mentioned, and I do use my SD storage alot(for music, files etc.). People say the problem may not occur right away (more than a month) but usually gets progressively worse (even on cards that have been reliable and used for years without any problem). Do a search in this forum or google for "SD corruption htc desire" or "SD mount".
@Clivectmob: indeed, even though HD2 has a couple of features that I like such as video playback and basically familiarity with WM, basically WYSIWYG as developers move on. Regarding rollout of the latest version well there's always chefs .
I have no problems with the SD card and Bluetooth on my Desire. I'm not saying that others do not, but I'm pretty certain it is not as widespread as this thread might lead you to believe.
Regards,
Dave
I come from a touch HD, and seriusly looked and tried the HD2 and now hava desire. Although WinMo has some advantages, it's just not properly suited to a phone, you'll always have to reset every now and then, probably hava a ram sweep app and other performance tweaks.
I've had the desire for several months now, and while i flashed a new rom after 2 days and about 3 a week on my touch Hd i havn't changed anything on my desire. It works great out the box and works very consistently (win mo doesn't) so even if you don't flash you'll be very happy!
As far as sd card goes, no issues at all (though i am using my own 16gb) and i don't think it's a widespread problem!
I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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sure you can replace WM with Android, but remember its not a fully operational OS because its a port, so i hope you can live with no sound, bluetooth and no camera....battery could be an issue but with the latest builds its been a HUGE improvement ever since the project started, and also to have a MicroSD card in hand to make Android work, but keep in mind the speeds are not going to be like Windows Mobile since it runs off of a MicroSD, but if you really up for it and you want to speed up your Tilt 2 if youre on WM, i recommend flashing a ROM just be sure to HARDSPL before you do
Android:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
Flashing ROMs guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
good luck!
Cool so Android is out on the Tilt. I noticed what you have done with your tilt 2. Even though I am Computer savy I would like to do something somewhat easy for the first time out. Thanks for the help I will check out the info you gave me and hopefully get it done right.
I keep reading posts about what a POS the Tilt 2/TP2 is and I'm baffled because mine just doesn't seem to fit that description. Mind you, it's no speed demon, but it does all I ask of it with ease. And I've yet to have it freeze up requiring a physical reset. I hard reset it once, but that was because I installed some stuff that wasn't designed for it. I've modded the heck out of mine and gotten the eye candy (of which there's a ton to choose from) where I like it. Yesterday, I impressed some friends when I quickly got some restaurant info from Bing on my phone and then did a quick Skyfire search on some rock band to settle a bet. This is not my first WinMo device, but it certainly is the best so far.
brother I wish mine was all that. I got my first htc tilt2 in Jan this year. Did alot of research and did not find a whole lot to worry about. Got the phone and was happy for about the first month was up. The internet is slow, constantly freezes, when switching to keyboard the darn thing goes three ways from sunday and locks up. I have actually seen static like on my tv. So I went to the local At&T device support center and the dough head told me its windows you will have to learn to deal with it being a hunk of junk. On my second one signal sucks still slow as hell and locks up all the time. Have had to reset (hard) numerous times. Not gona get rid of them, however gona check out some of the mods and see how it goes. The HTC is also not my first WINMO originally started with the orginal Black Jack and dont look forward to the droid conversion. But Will check it out and Hopefully mod this one out with this site.
I have an EVO 4G and was starting to look at putting Ubuntu on it, but really have no idea as to what benefit this would be to me. I realize it is a computer OS, but do you still retain things like 4G and calling? I don't see much of a point in putting it on there if I don't have a plan in place for reverting back to "normal" ROMs or using my phone as an actual phone later. If anyone who has done this to theirs has any input on this, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, if I still retain my phone functionality, could someone tell me a bit about why it would be cool to do this?
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Evobuntu - How to Install Ubuntu on HTC Evo 4G!
I also thought about doing this but found it pointless as your phone's already *nix, unless there's something specific to Ubuntu that you need to run on your phone.
I'm not really sure if Ubuntu would serve any benefit, but I've heard of someone with Ubuntu who gets about 3 days running the stock EVO battery, which kind of perked my interest. I don't need instructions, just want to know what benefits I might get from it.
I'm going to try this also on my Evo. I would say it's more for show than anything else. It's just cool that the Evo can handle it.
Well, you can crack wifi for one.
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Well, you can crack wifi for one.
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How, using aircrack/wireshark/etc? It already takes forever on a multiple core laptop seems to me the phone would be pointless. And don't you need drivers capable of packet injection? Seems far fetched to me.
I haven't really looked into it on the evo but it certainly does not take a long time with a laptop. My little netbook can crack wep in about 5 minutes. I'm not totally sure if the evo's wifi is capable of running in promiscuous mode but none of this sounds that far fetched to me.
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How, using aircrack/wireshark/etc? It already takes forever on a multiple core laptop seems to me the phone would be pointless. And don't you need drivers capable of packet injection? Seems far fetched to me.
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I haven't really looked into it on the evo but it certainly does not take a long time with a laptop. My little netbook can crack wep in about 5 minutes. I'm not totally sure if the evo's wifi is capable of running in promiscuous mode but none of this sounds that far fetched to me.
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I was referring to WPA, I cant find a WEP protected point anywhere near me if I try. I can see 17 access points around me atm, aside from 2 unprotected all are WPA.
I ran Ubuntu on my Evo for a few days to show off, and while I didn't attempt anything aircrack was one of the first thoughts/uses I had in mind. If it is capable of it that would be very cool. I just thought it unlikely that the Evos wifi is capable of injection in monitor mode, especially considering patched drivers are already necessary.
Not trying to argue that it wouldnt be badass tho
Edit: Just thought about it and WPA would be a hassle anyways as the rainbow table I use on my laptop is 30gb, considerably more than my 8gb card haha
Yeah, I wouldn't attempt wpa with an evo, lol. If you google it it does appear that other android devices are capable of injecting packets so it's possible the evo's wifi supports that as well. Where I live (nyc) there are a ton of open networks and an equally large number of wep protected networks.
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Hi folks
I'm so new here, it took 3 days to find the "thank" button (had to turn off some scripts in browser)
I would be grateful if folks would indicate where to put what posts (subjects, questions), what NOT to post (I suspect I might be speaking "taboo" words) I am a tad autistic, we can be rude without meaning to be. But I been building PC's since '1989, piddling with Linux since mandrake 7, so the good news is CAN read the "destructions" and I know how to use IRC just a bit, on the PC (post code to pastebin, and such)
I'm an old biddy. So old I can remember when a landline "Caller ID" was called a "Snitch-Box". I have grudgingly accepted that wireless phones must send THEIR OWN meid over an unsecure radio in order to work. This was due to happy discovery of pre-paid carriers that don't require MY DNA in order to accept my money. Prior to that epiphany, I totally hated the cellphone concept ... Not Secure. In order to activate the "device", ever, it must first be SECURED.
I *did* lurk around many weeks before diving in with the barage of questions... With the help of the tutorials here, have managed to survive a couple of "brickings" and even got a ROM into my phone :victory:
First -- about me poor "Labaratory Rat" device. Can't really call it "phone" coz it was a "brick" when I got it. My friend dropped it in the sink and thot it was dead, gave it to me with a collection of scrapped CDMA phones. Dried it out in dessicant on the hot H20 heater, and to my surprise resurrection! Trouble was, I had revived a very unhappy 'device'. Crammed full of bloatware, [solved with Cyanogenmod ROM] and still has some "firmware" issues. I am simply trying to restore the "device" to CLEAN, NAKED, OPEN source, before I decide wether it's practical for telecommunication use.
It has an acceptable camera, I enjoyed using it to play music, I didn't really see a need to do anything to it till I found I couldn't load a paid tutorial APP for my class.
I can make a PC poop a popsickle and then carve you a tiny rosary outa the stick. I'm so old I can remember moving "DIPP" switches on a motherboard to clock a CPU. I'm VERY CERTAIN the firmware issues can be cleaned up.
OK, so what I have here:
BRAVOC DVT2 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.98.000
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-2.05.0.11
Jul 5 2010:19:14:11
The good news being it's got a fast little processor and 512K ram (I can remember running autocad on 512K, it's usable) The bad news is it was probably thrown away because the carrier (US Cellular) has shipped it with root-kit (Of course, autistic person cannot understand why anyone would pay for a "device" that has a built in Root Kit) I know, the carriers offer the hardware for free, Like "Here is some free cheese = MOUSETRAP"
Managed to get 4ext recovery touch v1.0.0.5 RC9 testing in there.
I like it ALOT better without "Sense" (Cyanogen 7.2 is what's in there now)
I can see that the Android-ness is very much like Linux, which I "grok", it appears that "hboot" is the Android equivalent of "grub"?
And I am guessing that the "root-kit" is living in this HBOOT (I've noticed that the 98 series seems limitted to US Cellular shipped HTC's)
From the looks of it, I'm gonna have to learn to "build" (again -- and I only did it a couple times way back when) to fix this? since I see there's some very nice ROMs folks are running on this phone, but I don't need the "Sense" part?
Moderator, please move my post if I'm in the wrong place. I honestly cannot find where the "Un-ROOTKIT my BravoC" section is. Or maybe point me toward the discussion of how to make/build/install this HBOOT?
Thanks in Advance
Virginwidow
Thanks in advance