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Hi all,
im new to this forum and i would just like to say reading this forum is most of a time a pain due to the amount of useless posting an irrelevant noise on most threads
alot of these threads with 20+ pages could really be alot more concise holding only relevant or important tech info.
it just seems you have to read page after page filtering out 90% of the posts for that 10% of tech goodness.
i guess what im hoping for is more nazi admin type behaviour or at least more flaming from the more senior members of the community, Im sure this is a problem all over these forums but it would be good if less crap was posted in the hermes sections.

And you post this off-topic rant in the WM6 forum?
Man, the irony is killing me.

i was referring to post not threads but now that you mention it theres alot of **** threads too.
what is irony and how do i install it.

First make sure your attention is properly connected to this thread. Then download and install Irony v2.0! It's obviously better than 1.2 and fixes alot of these error posts. lol

bleeding_edge said:
i was referring to post not threads but now that you mention it theres alot of **** threads too.
what is irony and how do i install it.
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Actually, if you knew better you would realize that the first post was ironic, your post is just lame sarcasm.
Great way to introduce yourself to the forum. By the way.
See, that is useful sarcasm.

bleeding_edge said:
i guess what im hoping for is more nazi admin type behaviour or at least more flaming from the more senior members of the community, Im sure this is a problem all over these forums but it would be good if less crap was posted in the hermes sections.
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Here's the problem.. How to deal with n00bs that don't know how to read:
1) Lock the thread.
* If you lock the thread, we'll simply get duplicated posts from the same person asking (obviously), "Why did you lock my post about the keyboard issue?!? I *still* can't get the keyboard to work right!"
2) Delete the posts/threads
* If you delete it, you'll get the same duplicated reaction as above. Plus, the requisite *****ing about how they feel hard-done-to because they were singled out! And, besides.. They were just helping others who had the same keyboard issue as them; after all, it's not posted anywhere else on the site!
3) Flame the crap out of them
* Humiliation works. If you humiliate people into submission, prior to posting on the forums, a to-be-useful member of this site will spend the time and read the collected knowledge that is to be found on here. Read and show any of us that you've even *tried* to understand, and you'll get a nice, helpful answer. Post stupidity, you'll get attacked. It's pretty easy.

Now I know who to direct my BRICKED-ANTI-PERSONEL-DEVICE when the time comes.

LegolasTheElf said:
...Read and show any of us that you've even *tried* to understand, and you'll get a nice, helpful answer.
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ROFLMFAO

I can agree with "bleeding_edge" to a certain extent.
Posts that resemble something like "Installing now", "Man, I just installed {insert 1-version-older rom here}", and my fav "Downloading now 20% done" (I just wish they would post every time the percent went up, that would really keep me better informed).
On the other hand today is April 3rd and "bleeding_edge" joined in April of 2007... so to be a member for 2 days and suggest that everyone be meaner to members from now on probably wont get you any friends here.
I think that everyone who makes post like the examples above should simply be shot, in the face.
Actually I think that they don't intend on flooding a thread, its just their excitement showing through. So perhaps if you are someone who makes posts like the ones I have above, and your reading this post, you could simply try to keep your posts relevant/on topic.
Later, Lew

i agree with the admin that it cant really be controlled without backlash,
the only thing that comes to mind is revoking posting rights from those who consistenly post unconstructive unhelpful crap. i could easily name 50 people who post in this section with nothing of use to anyone.
every thread contains crap its just here theres alot higher ratio of useless wow look at my post count banter in comparison to normal dev forums.
or pehaps the idea of not allowing people to post anything within the first month period of creating an account.
although my account in new and fresh i have been reading this board for a while, thus the cause for my outrageous noob style rant
i appologise to any long standing members this has offended i just feel its borderline out of control and something really should be said/done

closed this thread, very good points, but made a new thread and its a sticky...

I can't post anywhere it is really annoying!!!

When can do my post anyone knows how i can close this post after i get my 10 posts that it requires me to put, I Put android and windows 7 on my phone and i have put android and wp7, i am not that new!

There was a 10 post limit put in place to prevent a lot of "noobs" posting questions in the development forums, which is the wrong place.
Once you get 10 posts, you can post in any forum. It won't take long to make 10 posts in other forums. We have an off-topic forum where you might be able to find some threads to reply in. It's a good place to start

Got already my 10 posts but still can´t post where ever i want.

I`m new member too, but I think Is good idea apply that rule.

i should get 10 posts as soon ss possible

maverickwm said:
I`m new member too, but I think Is good idea apply that rule.
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I totally disagree. A 10 post limit is really rather lame since the noobs that need spoon feeding will post garbage to get to a 10 count, then unleash the hell that is typical of people who are too lazy to read first and ask questions later (don't even get me started on the Search function)
I also understand the irony that this my first post, and yes, its both to berate the noob community and the forum. My intended first post was to give feedback on the stability of CM7 stable in the Dev forum like the other 51 pages of comments, yet here I am, going through the bull**** hoop jumping to even post.
****ing makes my head hurt. FAIL.
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Thanks for the info
Enviado desde el Motorola Milestone 2

Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.

Hi just seeing if I can post here
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

Go to your device support area and start helping people. You'll get to over ten posts in no time, and probably learn lots in the process.

reinbeau said:
Go to your device support area and start helping people. You'll get to over ten posts in no time, and probably learn lots in the process.
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This is good advice

zelenko said:
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
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I agree with you sir its a awful idea

I am unable to post in the dev threads after my 10 posts .. i understand the point of the limit but i merely want to post found bugs ..
Iv also seen people with alot more post who still ask very simple and stupid questions in these threads .. so that kind of defeats the purpouse of the limit ..

drotaru said:
I am unable to post in the dev threads after my 10 posts .. i understand the point of the limit but i merely want to post found bugs ..
Iv also seen people with alot more post who still ask very simple and stupid questions in these threads .. so that kind of defeats the purpouse of the limit ..
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IIRC the forum stats update every hour so it may take a little while after acheiving 10 posts before you can actually post........
Should be soon dont worry
Unfortunately your right, there are members with more than 10 posts who do not seem to be able to differentiate between a development forum and a Q&A forum...
However the 10 post rule has dramatically reduced the clutter in the development sections across the board, trust us on this.

the_scotsman said:
This is good advice
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I think the idea is to get people to go into the forums of their devices and actually READ SOME THREADS and maybe contribute to the discussion

zelenko said:
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
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nobs shouldn't be on xda anyways.

orangekid said:
nobs shouldn't be on xda anyways.
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So, you were never new, huh?
New people should read and learn and not post without searching, but no one should be saying they shouldn't be here. We were all new once.

Im Getting My 10 Posts In Now

10 posts ?
tbh
the 10 posts don't seem to deter clutter...
also, just coz you haven't posted 10 times doesn't necessarily mean you can't add value !
That the worst bit of resource management I've ever seen - a 'noob' may have something incredibly valuable to add - even if it's a 'dumb' question - it may provoke a non-noob into a new idea.
I have been on several forums - been on Linux, Ubuntu, Maemo devel ( hey they alrready got GB 2.3.3. running on an N900 ! ), Meego devel, iOS.... all can add value as essentially all based on same platform
..... - just wasting one of my 10 posts here as a noob !....

Serialk1llr said:
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I totally disagree. A 10 post limit is really rather lame since the noobs that need spoon feeding will post garbage to get to a 10 count, then unleash the hell that is typical of people who are too lazy to read first and ask questions later (don't even get me started on the Search function)
I also understand the irony that this my first post, and yes, its both to berate the noob community and the forum. My intended first post was to give feedback on the stability of CM7 stable in the Dev forum like the other 51 pages of comments, yet here I am, going through the bull**** hoop jumping to even post.
****ing makes my head hurt. FAIL.
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this!! i've been trying to download some files for a while and cant seem to find any threads to post in

Posting in a Dev section

So I have got over 10 posts but I still cant post in a Dev section. Any ideas? I have spent the last 7 months reading, I haven't posted much but now I feel I actually could contribute a bit? Thanks

i have the same question, can anyone tell us how to post in a dev section as a new user

DeviceSettings said:
So I have got over 10 posts but I still cant post in a Dev section. Any ideas? I have spent the last 7 months reading, I haven't posted much but now I feel I actually could contribute a bit? Thanks
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Try again, sometimes it takes the servers a while to move you into the correct user group, sorry
Dave

captnx said:
i have the same question, can anyone tell us how to post in a dev section as a new user
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Read this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298

Thank you David.

Does that 10+ Post-rule also apply to adding a signature?
I kinda like the 10 post rule, BUT, it is a bit annoying, since people like myself tend to not read the forum rules, since they are most likely the same on most forums anyway.
So you read a forum for ages. At some point you choose to create an account but still just keep reading since you DON'T actually have anything to add that has not been mentioned before.
Then finally comes the day, when you tried out a new released Kernel and would actually like to add some of your experiances with it and can't post.
I don't think I'm the first experiancing that problem before, cause you didn't realize you NEED to post to be able to post.
well well, as you may think, this post all in all is also a +1 to get to my 10 posts.
cheers

Emmure said:
Does that 10+ Post-rule also apply to adding a signature?
I kinda like the 10 post rule, BUT, it is a bit annoying, since people like myself tend to not read the forum rules, since they are most likely the same on most forums anyway.
So you read a forum for ages. At some point you choose to create an account but still just keep reading since you DON'T actually have anything to add that has not been mentioned before.
Then finally comes the day, when you tried out a new released Kernel and would actually like to add some of your experiances with it and can't post.
I don't think I'm the first experiancing that problem before, cause you didn't realize you NEED to post to be able to post.
well well, as you may think, this post all in all is also a +1 to get to my 10 posts.
cheers
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There is an 8-Post rule for signatures, but for a totally different reason. Spammers were using Signatures to advertise products, adding the restriction pretty much removed these types of bots.

DaveShaw said:
There is an 8-Post rule for signatures, but for a totally different reason. Spammers were using Signatures to advertise products, adding the restriction pretty much removed these types of bots.
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yeah, thats about what I immagined would be the reason.
Its a good rule, but can be pretty annoying...not like I'm gonna care about it anymore in about 30 mins anyway.

Same goes here, i think its time for me to contribute as well.... Still needed another 7/8 post to start posting in the respective threads

I have been lurking on this site for sometime and also feel I have something to finally contribute so hopefully I dont run in to any server issue after my 10th post, really like this site!

[Q] error 7 applying 4.2 update galaxy nexus

It said it finished the download, it loads the clockwork recovery...
I then select the up[date stuff.... and then it spews this error 7...
any idea's on how to fix this? all the other updates from 4.0 to 4.1 and from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 with CWM went just fine...

use the search tool.

Zepius said:
use the search tool.
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instead of wasting that space with your useless post, you could have either helped the op or just not have posted. your post is just as bad a whats the best rom/kernel thread, if not worse.
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Dutch2005 said:
It said it finished the download, it loads the clockwork recovery...
I then select the up[date stuff.... and then it spews this error 7...
any idea's on how to fix this? all the other updates from 4.0 to 4.1 and from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 with CWM went just fine...
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are you flashing the right version rom for your device? all gnex arent the same. you cant flash a gsm rom on a verizon device for example. also, do you have the latest cwm recovery installed? try twrp recovery. also, have you tried just redownloading the rom and flashing again?

instead of wasting that space with your useless post, you could have either helped the op or just not have posted. your post is just as bad a whats the best rom/kernel thread, if not worse.
A useless post in a useless thread is rain in the ocean. Much like this post. However, status 7 error is easily one of the top 5 beat to death questions on xda. So I'd say, in the interest of usefulness, informing OP of his folly is progress towards sparing the community useless threads, whilst posting the actual information, for the ten thousandth time on xda, is actually not encouraging anything. I call 'em like I see 'em.

Cmoore0965 said:
instead of wasting that space with your useless post, you could have either helped the op or just not have posted. your post is just as bad a whats the best rom/kernel thread, if not worse.
A useless post in a useless thread is rain in the ocean. Much like this post. However, status 7 error is easily one of the top 5 beat to death questions on xda. So I'd say, in the interest of usefulness, informing OP of his folly is progress towards sparing the community useless threads, whilst posting the actual information, for the ten thousandth time on xda, is actually not encouraging anything. I call 'em like I see 'em.
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if we go your route, then just about every issue in human existence has been written about, posted about, talked about, etc. then there is no point in having any kind of forums, from child raising, to car buying, to xda. might as well just shut them all down because all information is available somewhere already, from a library, to the internet, to stone slabs. but we are all imperfect humans, that do imperfect things. just remember, anything that you will ever ask in your lifetime, or have asked, has been asked already and answered. go search for it instead of bugging your family, friends, teachers, government officials, doctors, or stranger that walks past you on the street with any kind of question.

simms22 said:
instead of wasting that space with your useless post, you could have either helped the op or just not have posted. your post is just as bad a whats the best rom/kernel thread, if not worse.
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no its not. there have been 10 threads that i know of dealing with the same thing in the past 2 days.

In the grand scheme of things, and an idealized, purely general, take on existence, you're unquestionably correct. But that excellent segue into reclassifying a cited instance aside, this topic hardly warrants profound defense, in the interest of benevolent information exchange. To your response I would say that this is more akin to asking the manufacturer of your product to read you the instructions. A needless request for assistance, for something that has been more than reasonably supplied already.

Subscribed.

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In the grand scheme of things, and an idealized, purely general, take on existence, you're unquestionably correct. But that excellent segue into reclassifying a cited instance aside, this topic hardly warrants profound defense, in the interest of benevolent information exchange. To your response I would say that this is more akin to asking the manufacturer of your product to read you the instructions. A needless request for assistance, for something that has been more than reasonably supplied already.
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I see your point, but I see it more like having a 1,000 page instruction manual and asking someone (or the manufacturer) where the info is located in the book (that's the core idea of a Table of Contents). Just because someone has all the data in their possession, doesn't mean they know where to look or could really understand what they're even reading. But asking someone for help with understanding the instruction manual is totally normal (that's the exact idea behind why there are THOUSANDS of tutorial videos on Youtube and tutorial sites in general). So if someone said "Hey, where in this 1,000 page manual is the answer I'm looking for?" An answer of "The info is there in the book, go look for it" would be pointless.
Back on topic, with error 7, just reboot the recovery (preferably using TWRP) and try again.

^^
And, update TWRP. They've fixed it.

Cmoore0965 said:
A needless request for assistance, for something that has been more than reasonably supplied already.
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any request for assistance is not needless. the op has a need anyways. i am more than happy to assist anyone in need of assistance. if youre not, you dont have to, no one is making you.

I can see you're train of thought, and I can appreciate that. In any case, you're also correct about getting our young status 7's thread back on track lol didn't mean to hijack.

Zepius said:
no its not. there have been 10 threads that i know of dealing with the same thing in the past 2 days.
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heres something that you asked, by starting a new thread, that a simple search would have answered your question.. why didnt you search? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085472
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what are the versions of the stock radio? ive been getting worse battery life with the newer radios.
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let there be 100 threads started. if someone asks for help, i, and others, are willing to help. if you are not, thats ok, just stfu and ignore the thread.

Still not authorized to reply to a dev thread.

Hey, I really hope I'm not missing something here, but here goes. When I first started reading XDA it was maybe June... by later in the year I really wanted to post my ideas or some useful scripts I've made. Unfortunately whenever I tried to even respond to a ROM thread, I got that 10 post error. I guess it makes sense, seeing as there's probably a lot of garbage an unsuspecting newbie can post to a thread. But anyhow, today when I realized I have posted (exactly?) 10 posts, I'm still unable to respond to the dev section or make threads. And it's kind of unnerving. So where would I attempt to find the information on:
1. How to post in those threads when you meet all prerequisites
2. How to become stated as "Member" as opposed to "Junior Member"
3. And.. ... how to get a signature... even though that's less important.
I really hope I'm not missing protocol here.. I searched around and there were some old vague threads that didn't help much. I used good keywords, I do web SEO as a service so I think I searched hard enough. :/
Any help is definitely appreciated.

unixon said:
Hey, I really hope I'm not missing something here, but here goes. When I first started reading XDA it was maybe June... by later in the year I really wanted to post my ideas or some useful scripts I've made. Unfortunately whenever I tried to even respond to a ROM thread, I got that 10 post error. I guess it makes sense, seeing as there's probably a lot of garbage an unsuspecting newbie can post to a thread. But anyhow, today when I realized I have posted (exactly?) 10 posts, I'm still unable to respond to the dev section or make threads. And it's kind of unnerving. So where would I attempt to find the information on:
1. How to post in those threads when you meet all prerequisites
2. How to become stated as "Member" as opposed to "Junior Member"
3. And.. ... how to get a signature... even though that's less important.
I really hope I'm not missing protocol here.. I searched around and there were some old vague threads that didn't help much. I used good keywords, I do web SEO as a service so I think I searched hard enough. :/
Any help is definitely appreciated.
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It should be automatic, it might just take a few hours for the system to put you into a new user group.
You go from "Junior Member" to "Senior Member" when you get 100 posts.

Thanks . The dev forum allows my posts now, which is good. And I am a Junior Member still but that makes sense, it's not like I'm a longtimer on the XDA forums. Also, how can I get my signature going? I always enjoy having a signature.
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It should be automatic, it might just take a few hours for the system to put you into a new user group.
You go from "Junior Member" to "Senior Member" when you get 100 posts.
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unixon said:
Thanks . The dev forum allows my posts now, which is good. And I am a Junior Member still but that makes sense, it's not like I'm a longtimer on the XDA forums. Also, how can I get my signature going? I always enjoy having a signature.
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click on user cp at the top and you can edit your signature from there.

And here is a thread on How To Make A Good Signature
LIFE! IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OUT OF IT!

My signatures up and running. It just took a bit for the system to update. Thanks to both of you for the advice!