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This is for discussion about the recent news that we'll soon be disallowing posts to development forums for new users with 10 posts or less in an attempt to cut down on junk posts.
I believe is a good new way of lowering down the crap-posts
What else a normal member can do to help?
- Report any problematic post by using the "report" button
- Help to improve and maintain a friendly ambiance
Thanks!
>25 would be better.
It sounds very very good. I'd like to suggest a little thing:
is it possible to ban thread with "HELP me please" title?
This type of title is common and doesn't help to focus the problem.
Sorry but I think is not a good move.
I am massively effected by this move. My only posts and reads are in the development forums because I installed a "custom rom" the moment I purchased my new phone. There is no posting from me in the "other" forums.
How can I answer the maker of the custom rom?
Should i spam 10 meaningless posts in other forums just to get my right?
The term "development" in XDA is funny anyway because these forums have very little todo with development but with installing custom roms and other patches. They are not discussing "development" stuff in these forums.
Anyhow I would suggest to:
1. Have grace period of at least 1 day between registration and posting.
2. Have REAL development forums and separate ones for "custom kernels/roms" for the maker and their users.
Best Regards,
Daniel
spock2097 said:
Sorry but I think is not a good move.
I am massively effected by this move. My only posts and reads are in the development forums because I installed a "custom rom" the moment I purchased my new phone. There is no posting from me in the "other" forums.
How can I answer the maker of the custom rom?
Should i spam 10 meaningless posts in other forums just to get my right?
The term "development" in XDA is funny anyway because these forums have very little todo with development but with installing custom roms and other patches. They are not discussing "development" stuff in these forums.
Anyhow I would suggest to:
1. Have grace period of at least 1 day between registration and posting.
2. Have REAL development forums and separate ones for "custom kernels/roms" for the maker and their users.
Best Regards,
Daniel
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Daniel, I totally agree with you. These are very valid points. Many people lurk here, mainly because they don't want to look stupid when they ask questions - and then, when they get serious after gaining knowledge here, they try something and they can't post? That isn't right.
The biggest issue here at XDA is what I mentioned above - people are hesitant to post because of the reaction they frequently get - on the flip side, those that do post in the proper areas for questions and answers are lucky if they get answers sometimes, I've had questions go unanswered, when I posted in what I thought was the proper forum (never in the ROM development forums). So what I think you really need to do is to come up with a good support forum for custom ROMs, and have knowledgable people read and help out in there - no matter how 'dumb' the question is in their eyes. From my experience, the only 'dumb' question is the one you don't ask. Will that 'cut down' on the 'dumb' questions? Yes, in the ROM development forums it will - only if they're answered elsewhere, however.
You have to remember, Android doesn't come naturally to everyone, some come from other 'worlds' where they know what they're doing, then they're tossed into the thick of it when they try to make the switch (been there, done that). Are there people who really shouldn't be messing with their phones? Of course there are. Is it XDA's job to let them know they're too dumb to be messing? Or is it a better plan to help those people learn? I've always found the latter to be a better plan.
spock2097 said:
Sorry but I think is not a good move.
I am massively effected by this move. My only posts and reads are in the development forums because I installed a "custom rom" the moment I purchased my new phone. There is no posting from me in the "other" forums.
How can I answer the maker of the custom rom?
Should i spam 10 meaningless posts in other forums just to get my right?
The term "development" in XDA is funny anyway because these forums have very little todo with development but with installing custom roms and other patches. They are not discussing "development" stuff in these forums.
Anyhow I would suggest to:
1. Have grace period of at least 1 day between registration and posting.
2. Have REAL development forums and separate ones for "custom kernels/roms" for the maker and their users.
Best Regards,
Daniel
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Well, that is kind of the idea. If you have questions or are not sure about something, you are supposed to try and find the answers by using the search engine. If you must ask questions, most device forums have a Q&A section where you can post. Keep in mind that the announcement says that you will still be able to read, just not post.
As for the "no real development" comment... these forums are not just guides to teach others how to flash custom stuff. It is called development because the roms, kernels, themes, apps don't just magically appear from thin air. There is a lot of work done to get a custom rom to even boot in a device (let alone get it to work properly). You need to tweak drivers, apps, test, test, and test some more before you can even consider releasing something. And don't even get me started in porting and kernel development.
The reason why you don't see the discussions about development is because they are heavily diluted by posts not related to the devving process (which include questions in the wrong place, flaming, thank you posts etc). Hence, the reason for this move. This is to ensure that the development sections stay that way.... as development.
All I can say is about friken time! I have been discussing this rule with a number of mods for a long long time now and frankly I still think 10 is too low, but its a great start and should cut a lot of the rubbish or at least make some people think twice about where they are posting their questions.
spock2097 said:
Sorry but I think is not a good move.
I am massively effected by this move. My only posts and reads are in the development forums because I installed a "custom rom" the moment I purchased my new phone. There is no posting from me in the "other" forums.
How can I answer the maker of the custom rom?
Should i spam 10 meaningless posts in other forums just to get my right?
The term "development" in XDA is funny anyway because these forums have very little todo with development but with installing custom roms and other patches. They are not discussing "development" stuff in these forums.
Anyhow I would suggest to:
1. Have grace period of at least 1 day between registration and posting.
2. Have REAL development forums and separate ones for "custom kernels/roms" for the maker and their users.
Best Regards,
Daniel
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I agree with spock ("Live long and prosper"). For newbies, which I may still be considered, searching the forums is daunting. For example, I have an HD2. I was running Android off of SD for a few months, then just last week took the plunge to NAND. You guys are really making progress on cleaning up the forum structure, because at least now in the HD2 section there are different "development" sections for NAND and SD, etc. BUT, when you are searching for the perfect ROM, it is very confusing with all of the codes in the ROM names. It took me 5 different tries between NAND roms and CWR roms (using clockwork recovery, I'm not THAT DUMB) to finally get one to boot up. I was sweating for a bit!!!
Plus, when you use the search function in the forums, the results very rarely seem to match my search. I understand the experts' frustrations when a newb asks a question or needs help with something that's already been covered, but I have searched numerous times looking for help with bluetooth on a rom, or music skipping, or whatever. Sometimes, I'll take 45 minutes reading through the search results and will realize that none of them are even touching on the subject I was searching for.
Don't get me wrong, I am extremely grateful for all that the XDA team does. I visit this site daily, and follow the news with RSS on the Google Reader. I love it. But, since you're asking for suggestions, there you are.
;-)
It's a shame that you guys need to enforce this kind of rule but we really do need something to keep this forum in control.
Good job.
As i am mech engg and i dont about Rom and other things so i have to post stupid posts
and also some stupid post might help someone
if you can help "If some dev posts some information make sure that he posts his post well informed. by this unnecessary posts can be avoided"
Fair play on attempting something. This is one of a few large community sites I frequent and they all suffer from the problems you describe. Unfortunately no-one has the answer and it is a case of trail and error to find what works.
egzthunder1 said:
The reason why you don't see the discussions about development is because they are heavily diluted by posts not related to the devving process (which include questions in the wrong place, flaming, thank you posts etc). Hence, the reason for this move. This is to ensure that the development sections stay that way.... as development.
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See, I didn't even know that. I think this is a smart move, since it will all but force n00bs like myself to direct their comments to the appropriate forum. In terms of other recommendations, I would say having a ROM support forum, as somebody else mentioned would be a good idea.
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Well, that is kind of the idea. If you have questions or are not sure about something, you are supposed to try and find the answers by using the search engine. If you must ask questions, most device forums have a Q&A section where you can post. Keep in mind that the announcement says that you will still be able to read, just not post.
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Post<>opening a new thread.
Let me phrase this:
1. I have been reading the forum for 1-2 weeks.
2. Then I couldn't find the answer and I have opened an account.
3. I want to post a question to the maker of the custom rom.
4. I can't do this!
5. I will post 10 idiotic comments somewhere else to get my right.
Is this what you want? I (you can see all my posts) have never spammed or asked stupid stuff anywhere but a number of posts should be a sign of my maturity? Posting 10 Post gives you little to no sign if the user has and knows how to use search and stay still untill he has read at least 1000 posts!
This is what you should be aiming for.
Just because you can't measure it better doesn't make it valid. It is like giving you no mortgage loan because in your neighbourhood there were 5% not paying it back in time.
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As for the "no real development" comment... these forums are not just guides to teach others how to flash custom stuff. It is called development because the roms, kernels, themes, apps don't just magically appear from thin air. There is a lot of work done to get a custom rom to even boot in a device (let alone get it to work properly). You need to tweak drivers, apps, test, test, and test some more before you can even consider releasing something. And don't even get me started in porting and kernel development.
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What does this have to do with my remarks concerning the XDA developer forums?
I do agree with everything you said but "testing" especially means getting feedback from users that can't tell you anymore if "it worked".
egzthunder1 said:
The reason why you don't see the discussions about development is because they are heavily diluted by posts not related to the devving process (which include questions in the wrong place, flaming, thank you posts etc). Hence, the reason for this move. This is to ensure that the development sections stay that way.... as development.
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Then make inexperienced users stop "opening new threads" instead of "posting answers/making remarks to current threads".
Naren Raj said:
As i am mech engg and i dont about Rom and other things so i have to post stupid posts
and also some stupid post might help someone
if you can help "If some dev posts some information make sure that he posts his post well informed. by this unnecessary posts can be avoided"
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Here is the thing, and probably where lots of people are missing the point here. It isn't a matter of stupid posts. It is a matter of stupid posts in the wrong places. No one is telling you that you cannot ask for help. What we are saying is that, if all search efforts fail, please post in the right place....
seroaddict said:
See, I didn't even know that. I think this is a smart move, since it will all but force n00bs like myself to direct their comments to the appropriate forum. In terms of other recommendations, I would say having a ROM support forum, as somebody else mentioned would be a good idea.
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Well...
My advice to all ROM devs would be to make their own thread in Q&A or general, called [SUPPORT] ROM NAME HERE Support Thread - Latest Version 1.2.3
In there, all users could post, regardless of number of posts. The first post would link to the main ROM, and perhaps contain a FAQ.
In the ROM release in development, have a large link to the Q&A thread at the start and end of the post. That way, those reporting bugs and helping with patches/fixes can post in the development thread, and those needing help can post in the Q&A thread.
Just encourage devs to do something like this
One of the things XDA added recently to cut down on posts was a "Thank You" button. It's a great idea! Where the heck is it? I would love to thank the devs that help me out with my HD2, but I CANT FIND THE BUTTON!
Can somebody draw me a picture or something?
I mean something has to be done. But being new to all this rooting, S-OFF etc kind of thing I do consider myself at least somewhat of a greenhorn . I do however try to keep my questions relevant to the topic and try finding the proper topic before placing a question.
But I am also struggling with actually get a proper answer, or an answer at all to some of my questions, making it hard for a new guy (or girl) to transend from being a greenie to actually become more and more knowledgeable over time. I mean if people dont share their knowledge and or their solutions then how are we all to benifit from them.
I do however admit that some form of moderation needs to find place, considering that some of the guides are actually more or less straight forward and quite frankly. If people can't follow a single straight forward guide then perhaps rooting, modding etc is not for them
thefinancemaster said:
One of the things XDA added recently to cut down on posts was a "Thank You" button. It's a great idea! Where the heck is it? I would love to thank the devs that help me out with my HD2, but I CANT FIND THE BUTTON!
Can somebody draw me a picture or something?
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It appears to the left of the Quote button.
But IIRC it appears only after 5 posts, as we would have issues with new accounts being made solely to thank their "owner".
You're not far off the thanks button appearing.
I would screenie it, but there's little point. It's to the left of "Edit" for me ("Quote" for you I think as you won't see edit buttons everywhere)
This is your site and your rules. The only question is, that a person like me who has been a member for a short time, but been runing modded rom's for about 5 months (thanks to this site) can't post a question if I did have one. This is my second post, and the first one was to answer a question, I have found everything I needed and every question I had answered by way of reading posts. But if I do have a question I can't ask it because I have not posted alot of BS to get my post count up.
When can do my post anyone knows how i can close this post after i get my 10 posts that it requires me to put, I Put android and windows 7 on my phone and i have put android and wp7, i am not that new!
There was a 10 post limit put in place to prevent a lot of "noobs" posting questions in the development forums, which is the wrong place.
Once you get 10 posts, you can post in any forum. It won't take long to make 10 posts in other forums. We have an off-topic forum where you might be able to find some threads to reply in. It's a good place to start
Got already my 10 posts but still can´t post where ever i want.
I`m new member too, but I think Is good idea apply that rule.
i should get 10 posts as soon ss possible
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I`m new member too, but I think Is good idea apply that rule.
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I totally disagree. A 10 post limit is really rather lame since the noobs that need spoon feeding will post garbage to get to a 10 count, then unleash the hell that is typical of people who are too lazy to read first and ask questions later (don't even get me started on the Search function)
I also understand the irony that this my first post, and yes, its both to berate the noob community and the forum. My intended first post was to give feedback on the stability of CM7 stable in the Dev forum like the other 51 pages of comments, yet here I am, going through the bull**** hoop jumping to even post.
****ing makes my head hurt. FAIL.
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Thanks for the info
Enviado desde el Motorola Milestone 2
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
Hi just seeing if I can post here
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Go to your device support area and start helping people. You'll get to over ten posts in no time, and probably learn lots in the process.
reinbeau said:
Go to your device support area and start helping people. You'll get to over ten posts in no time, and probably learn lots in the process.
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This is good advice
zelenko said:
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
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I agree with you sir its a awful idea
I am unable to post in the dev threads after my 10 posts .. i understand the point of the limit but i merely want to post found bugs ..
Iv also seen people with alot more post who still ask very simple and stupid questions in these threads .. so that kind of defeats the purpouse of the limit ..
drotaru said:
I am unable to post in the dev threads after my 10 posts .. i understand the point of the limit but i merely want to post found bugs ..
Iv also seen people with alot more post who still ask very simple and stupid questions in these threads .. so that kind of defeats the purpouse of the limit ..
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IIRC the forum stats update every hour so it may take a little while after acheiving 10 posts before you can actually post........
Should be soon dont worry
Unfortunately your right, there are members with more than 10 posts who do not seem to be able to differentiate between a development forum and a Q&A forum...
However the 10 post rule has dramatically reduced the clutter in the development sections across the board, trust us on this.
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This is good advice
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I think the idea is to get people to go into the forums of their devices and actually READ SOME THREADS and maybe contribute to the discussion
zelenko said:
Hello. This is very stupid. 10 post for nobs isnt good idea.
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nobs shouldn't be on xda anyways.
orangekid said:
nobs shouldn't be on xda anyways.
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So, you were never new, huh?
New people should read and learn and not post without searching, but no one should be saying they shouldn't be here. We were all new once.
Im Getting My 10 Posts In Now
10 posts ?
tbh
the 10 posts don't seem to deter clutter...
also, just coz you haven't posted 10 times doesn't necessarily mean you can't add value !
That the worst bit of resource management I've ever seen - a 'noob' may have something incredibly valuable to add - even if it's a 'dumb' question - it may provoke a non-noob into a new idea.
I have been on several forums - been on Linux, Ubuntu, Maemo devel ( hey they alrready got GB 2.3.3. running on an N900 ! ), Meego devel, iOS.... all can add value as essentially all based on same platform
..... - just wasting one of my 10 posts here as a noob !....
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I totally disagree. A 10 post limit is really rather lame since the noobs that need spoon feeding will post garbage to get to a 10 count, then unleash the hell that is typical of people who are too lazy to read first and ask questions later (don't even get me started on the Search function)
I also understand the irony that this my first post, and yes, its both to berate the noob community and the forum. My intended first post was to give feedback on the stability of CM7 stable in the Dev forum like the other 51 pages of comments, yet here I am, going through the bull**** hoop jumping to even post.
****ing makes my head hurt. FAIL.
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this!! i've been trying to download some files for a while and cant seem to find any threads to post in
So I have got over 10 posts but I still cant post in a Dev section. Any ideas? I have spent the last 7 months reading, I haven't posted much but now I feel I actually could contribute a bit? Thanks
i have the same question, can anyone tell us how to post in a dev section as a new user
DeviceSettings said:
So I have got over 10 posts but I still cant post in a Dev section. Any ideas? I have spent the last 7 months reading, I haven't posted much but now I feel I actually could contribute a bit? Thanks
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Try again, sometimes it takes the servers a while to move you into the correct user group, sorry
Dave
captnx said:
i have the same question, can anyone tell us how to post in a dev section as a new user
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Read this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
Thank you David.
Does that 10+ Post-rule also apply to adding a signature?
I kinda like the 10 post rule, BUT, it is a bit annoying, since people like myself tend to not read the forum rules, since they are most likely the same on most forums anyway.
So you read a forum for ages. At some point you choose to create an account but still just keep reading since you DON'T actually have anything to add that has not been mentioned before.
Then finally comes the day, when you tried out a new released Kernel and would actually like to add some of your experiances with it and can't post.
I don't think I'm the first experiancing that problem before, cause you didn't realize you NEED to post to be able to post.
well well, as you may think, this post all in all is also a +1 to get to my 10 posts.
cheers
Emmure said:
Does that 10+ Post-rule also apply to adding a signature?
I kinda like the 10 post rule, BUT, it is a bit annoying, since people like myself tend to not read the forum rules, since they are most likely the same on most forums anyway.
So you read a forum for ages. At some point you choose to create an account but still just keep reading since you DON'T actually have anything to add that has not been mentioned before.
Then finally comes the day, when you tried out a new released Kernel and would actually like to add some of your experiances with it and can't post.
I don't think I'm the first experiancing that problem before, cause you didn't realize you NEED to post to be able to post.
well well, as you may think, this post all in all is also a +1 to get to my 10 posts.
cheers
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There is an 8-Post rule for signatures, but for a totally different reason. Spammers were using Signatures to advertise products, adding the restriction pretty much removed these types of bots.
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There is an 8-Post rule for signatures, but for a totally different reason. Spammers were using Signatures to advertise products, adding the restriction pretty much removed these types of bots.
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yeah, thats about what I immagined would be the reason.
Its a good rule, but can be pretty annoying...not like I'm gonna care about it anymore in about 30 mins anyway.
Same goes here, i think its time for me to contribute as well.... Still needed another 7/8 post to start posting in the respective threads
I have been lurking on this site for sometime and also feel I have something to finally contribute so hopefully I dont run in to any server issue after my 10th post, really like this site!
* MODS PLEASE CONSIDER *
Double Post Sorry!!!
First off I'm Posting this in Q & A because this where I Waste ALOT my Time Trying to Help people, to just Later Find out that the Problem has Already been Solved! Lol...
I Can't even Count the number of threads I read from day to day from users that need Help of some sort with their phones, and that's No Problem! After all that's one of the many Purposes of XDA...
But anyways, after seeing how Useful the [Thanks Button] turned out I've been thinking why Not Add a [Solved Button] Also? This way people like me Won't try to Help Users that No Longer Need Help!!
I Mean it'll Save Space and Time Both! If this was Posted somewhere else I Apologize, but I Haven't come Across it!
I Really think this may also Help the Mods Close some of the Dead Threads that are No Longer being used!
Please Give Feedback...
Thank You!
I'll second that.
This is a signature.
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I'll second that.
This is a signature.
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Now if only 100 More people Felt like us... Lol!
Moved to the appropriate forum.
I believe there is a 'Resolved' feature available to OPs in the Q&A forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't get a lot of use. Perhaps wider awareness is needed.
Also, I'm not 100% sure on this but if, when creating a new thread, you choose 'yes, this thread is a question!' tickbox at the bottom, the option for 'resolved' becomes available in all forums? That may not be correct.
I wouldn't say it was a waste of time to help someone and find they'd already found the answer, but I do agree that it can be annoying at times, especially if you're subscribed to the thread and awaiting their response or other questions.
You have my vote
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I believe there is a 'Resolved' feature available to OPs in the Q&A forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't get a lot of use. Perhaps wider awareness is needed.
Also, I'm not 100% sure on this but if, when creating a new thread, you choose 'yes, this thread is a question!' tickbox at the bottom, the option for 'resolved' becomes available in all forums? That may not be correct.
I wouldn't say it was a waste of time to help someone and find they'd already found the answer, but I do agree that it can be annoying at times, especially if you're subscribed to the thread and awaiting their response or other questions.
You have my vote
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Thank you, Appreciate the Detailed Reply also!
mee too. . . . . . .
good idea
if nothing else at least this helps to boost my post count
+1.
10 chars. Don't read this because I just go on and on to fill up space. Really, stop reading. This end bit is useless, me babbling about me trying to look like I know what I'm doing..
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+1.
10 chars. Don't read this because I just go on and on to fill up space. Really, stop reading. This end bit is useless, me babbling about me trying to look like I know what I'm doing..
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Lol... I Guess I just Don't follow Directions that well, The Rebel in me Kept Saying just Keep Reading! Lol...
Good idea.
Ubuntu forms handle this pretty well. Just do it the same way
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Any Idea why??
myonlyst4r, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
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You have few posts.
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Loll u need 10 posts!!!
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Any Idea why??
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A little reading goes a long way, especially in the dev section. You quoted the answer to your question in the OP
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A little reading goes a long way, especially in the dev section. You quoted the answer to your question in the OP
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Hence the reason for the restrictions ....lol
I already have > 10 posts....
how am i supposed to post 10 posts? it will just be spam then..
i mean all i wanted to post was a thank u for my rom developer (krarvind, slim bean rocks) and ask about new features etc
zeddicus0 said:
how am i supposed to post 10 posts? it will just be spam then..
i mean all i wanted to post was a thank u for my rom developer (krarvind, slim bean rocks) and ask about new features etc
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Spamming ten posts isn't a great idea. Try and post something meaningful and maybe try and help some others in the Q&A threads.
Rom development threads aren't really the place to post a thank you, that's why there is a thanks button. Also feature requests probably would be better suited in the Q&A thread for that rom. If it doesn't have one already maybe one can be started.
Same problem.
I am also having a problem posting on development related threads. I am having a problem and cannot let anyone know. I already have 11 posts, why am I still getting the same message that I cannot post? Any help?
I agree that the ten posts thing is ridiculous. I have been pulling my hair out trying to solve a problem, and I found a thread which discussed a possible solution to that problem, but was having some difficulty with it working, and wanted to post the specifics of my problem and how they related to the solution presented to see if it was reasonable to think the solution might work. Instead, I am treated to a condescending message telling me, in effect to take a hike (to put it politely). I don't have time to come up with ten meaningful contributions before I get help solving the problem I am having - heck, I wasn't even sure from the message where I was even supposed to post such messages, since it said I can't post to "development-related forums" - what else is there on a site called xda-developers, anyway? I only found this thread using google to search for this whole ten posts nonsense.
And then, some of the responses by certain moderators seemed down-right rude, for instance one post complaining about how they wanted to thank the author for a post and report some minor issues was countered by a moderator who apparently didn't even read that part and closed the thread, declaring that their post had proved the need for the rule, as the person obviously hadn't learned "how to search" which doesn't even make sense consider the original poster already implied they HAD since otherwise how would you thank someone for something they found helpful and contribute findings on it?
Anyway, the best I could do was to send a private message to the most recent poster who appeared to be knowledgeable about the topic and hope for a reply. They were not the original poster, nor were they one of several other people knowledgable who had previously posted; this is thus a sub-optimal solution. Furthermore, any replies directly to me won't be shared with the world, meaning it won't help anyone with the same problem as me.
And you expect me to contribute in the future after treating me this way?
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The ten post rule is to fight spammers and people who don't search cluttering up development threads with support questions. It's not hard to get ten meaningful posts. I understand frustrations when you're trying to figure out a problem, you've done the best which is ask someone knowledgeable for help, but the rule is in place for a reason.