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On my Inc2:
I Clipped s-off.. then I ran revolution.
Is there a way to reload hboot. 0.97 to get back to my original hboot?
That leads into my noob htc question... How does the hboot relate to kernels and RUUs, etc.?
is hboot untouchable for the most part?
Thanks
paulsg63 said:
On my Inc2:
I Clipped s-off.. then I ran revolution.
Is there a way to reload hboot. 0.97 to get back to my original hboot?
That leads into my noob htc question... How does the hboot relate to kernels and RUUs, etc.?
is hboot untouchable for the most part?
Thanks
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In the case of Revolutinary, a modified hboot is written to the phone that has the S-Off turned off. So if you replace the Revolutionary hboot, you will lose S-Off. The XTC clip process turns the actual hardware S-Off and the standard HTC hboot reads that setting, so that is why clipping gives you permanent S-Off. In your case you did not need to run Revolutinary at all. All that the process did was copy the modified hboot to your phone. Since you have radio S-Off you should be able to replace the Revolutionary hboot with the 0.97 hboot without any issues. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
paulsg63 said:
On my Inc2:
I Clipped s-off.. then I ran revolution.
Is there a way to reload hboot. 0.97 to get back to my original hboot?
That leads into my noob htc question... How does the hboot relate to kernels and RUUs, etc.?
is hboot untouchable for the most part?
Thanks
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http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1766 is what you want.
hboot is the bootloader.
kernel is well, the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel explains it better
RUU stands fr ROM Updater Utility, does exactly what it says.
tpbklake said:
In the case of Revolutinary, a modified hboot is written to the phone that has the S-Off turned off. So if you replace the Revolutionary hboot, you will lose S-Off. The XTC clip process turns the actual hardware S-Off and the standard HTC hboot reads that setting, so that is why clipping gives you permanent S-Off. In your case you did not need to run Revolutinary at all. All that the process did was copy the modified hboot to your phone. Since you have radio S-Off you should be able to replace the Revolutionary hboot with the 0.97 hboot without any issues. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
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ahhh... ok. I was thinking that.. but thanks so much for the calcification,
You all rock on this site!!!!!
times_infinity said:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1766 is what you want.
hboot is the bootloader.
kernel is well, the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel explains it better
RUU stands fr ROM Updater Utility, does exactly what it says.
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off to try this now!
I love xdadevelopers... you rock!
Thanks infinity!!
times_infinity said:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1766 is what you want.
hboot is the bootloader.
kernel is well, the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel explains it better
RUU stands fr ROM Updater Utility, does exactly what it says.
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Checked out that link... it was talking about going back to froyo and such.
From what you said.. all I should need is the part for hboot.. correct?
It was also talking about a different checksum for GB?
Just wanted to make sure before I try this.
thanks!!
IIRC, flashing the bootloader is the single most dangerous thing you can flash and can definitely brick your phone. Make sure you understand the risks!
Hi there!
Info about my wildfire s:
Virgin mobile Canada
Marvel PVT Ship S-On RL
Hboot-0.90.0000
Microp-0451
Radio-7.53.39.03M
Android 2.3.5
Guess that's the last resort before i totally give up on that phone.
Here's my situation:
can't seem to unlock my bootloader using Htcdev method whatsoever.
When i type fastboot oem get_identifier_token, i always get:
(Bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
From what i have heard and guessed, it means my Hboot is not up-to-date.
(I was stock 2.3.3 btw)
Tried to flash some roms from the "Shipped Marvel roms collection" thread, and i get all sort of errors during the update, basically that the rom is older than mine.
I then resorted to that thread:
"[HBOOT] HBOOT update for EU users who's having problem with RUU":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432474
It worked...except it only updated the radio, not the Hboot... for the hboot part is only says "bypass", and then offer me to reboot the phone.
I also created a goldcard at some point.
While i can see its virtues, It did absolutely nothing for me.
Of course, i've been reading a lot of threads with problems simillar to mine, but didn't get any working solution out of it.
Here i am, and i sincerely hope someone can help me, because it's one good little phone, i like it, but we all know a device you can't root is a device you can't do much with, sadly.
Thanks a lot for the help!
You have not updated your bootloader to either 1.08.0099 or 1.09.0099 which are HTCdev unlockable.
MrTaco505 said:
You have not updated your bootloader to either 1.08.0099 or 1.09.0099 which are HTCdev unlockable.
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I know that already.
My problem is exactly that: managing to update my hboot.
have you tried simons wildfire s utility v2 to do the BL-Unlocking? doesn't need htcdev i think...give it a try
Bangoo said:
I know that already.
My problem is exactly that: managing to update my hboot.
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have you tried to take the hboot from a htcdev ruu, making a pg**img.zip with it inside and an androidinfo.txt and boot to bootloader to see if it will update? i cannot see why it wont, it shouldnt affect your rom (which will be carrier related) and IS htc signed. you might just get away from with ^^ after that, if it works use simonsimons unlock tool
Thanks Gloris and Heavy_Metal_Man, i'll try both, see how it turns out and report the results.
Didn't work.
To hell with this phone, i've been wasting to much time on this, that's the first time i have so much trouble unlocking/rooting a phone.
I'm done with HTC i believe, that locked bootloader really is a cheap shot from them.
Anyway, thanks a lot for the help, guys.
Hi,
I would like to flash the newest InsertCoin rom to my One X, but i can't figure out if it will work.
In this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920060 it says that i need a certain CID - and my CID is 111111, so it doesn't match (and i tried to change it, but can't).
So - does anyone know if it will work?
And if it doesn't work, will it brick my phone og will i loose any information? (i made a backup in recovery)
fakta said:
Hi,
I would like to flash the newest InsertCoin rom to my One X, but i can't figure out if it will work.
In this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920060 it says that i need a certain CID - and my CID is 111111, so it doesn't match (and i tried to change it, but can't).
So - does anyone know if it will work?
And if it doesn't work, will it brick my phone og will i loose any information? (i made a backup in recovery)
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your CID doesn't support the latest JB Firmware...so DO NOT FLASH THAT!
Hmm... That's not what i was hoping for...
So i will have to find a way to change my CID...?
Do you know how i got that CID? As far as i can read, everybody else has more "random" CID's... I'm an HTC ambassador (i work at a phone company in Denmark) so maybe i got a pre-production model?
fakta said:
Hmm... That's not what i was hoping for...
So i will have to find a way to change my CID...?
Do you know how i got that CID? As far as i can read, everybody else has more "random" CID's... I'm an HTC ambassador (i work at a phone company in Denmark) so maybe i got a pre-production model?
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you can't change your CID cause you are not S-OFF.... you will have to wait.... every phone has a different cid
Dammit...
Thanks for the help anyway
I actually considered flashing it just to try, but i think you just saved my phone...
And i suppose no one knows when we will get S-OFF...?
You know... i might be missing something here, but isn't CID - 11111111 SuperCID??
Surely that would mean the device is already S-Off??
In recovery it says from the top:
UNLOCKED
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
and so on...
I'm guessing that means it is ON?
Yeah that means it's S-ON, but if you had CID 11111111 then thats SuperCID and the CID restrictions wouldn't apply to you.
I don't quite understand how you can have a SuperCID device thats S-On, but if it's a special one from HTC, then who knows?
Mines the same. Weird combo from what I've been reading on here... hopefully there'll no more restrictions or anything... no waiting until every other CID has it first!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Brownie2k said:
Yeah that means it's S-ON, but if you had CID 11111111 then thats SuperCID and the CID restrictions wouldn't apply to you.
I don't quite understand how you can have a SuperCID device thats S-On, but if it's a special one from HTC, then who knows?
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So in other words i can "safely" flash the JB rom?
If it doesn't work anyway, can i get back to ICS without a wipe?
I think i'm just about to get VERY happy
If you do have CID: 11111111 then yes, i'd say you can safely flash the new HBOOT, BUT because you're not S-Off, you can't go back to HBOOT 1.12.
You need to make a nandroid backup of you ICS Rom so if you don't like Jellybean, then you can go back to ICS through restoring. Beware though, things like CM10 etc don't work on the new HBOOT at the moment.
did you try fastboot oem writecid HTC_001 while in bootloader ? if device stops responding until reboot it means it wont work
Yes you can..my HOX has S-OFF and SuperCid and i was able to flash the new hboot.
volcomnator999 said:
Yes you can..my HOX has S-OFF and SuperCid and i was able to flash the new hboot.
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Not all SuperCID devices are S-Off. S-Off also allows you to flash an older hboot, which cannot be done with SuperCID alone.
Yes this looks like superCID but I don't know if it will support the JB firmware... Better not to try
matt95 said:
Yes this looks like superCID but I don't know if it will support the JB firmware... Better not to try
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The worst that could happen is that the new hboot is rejected. That's seems like an entirely recoverable scenario.
Then what does SUPER CID mean if you cannot flash the new Hboot, so it isn't that SUPER!
webpatrick said:
Then what does SUPER CID mean if you cannot flash the new Hboot, so it isn't that SUPER!
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It means you can run any RUU
It will support the new HBOOT i'd imagine, If you've got SuperCID it's like being region free.
I can't see why it wouldn't work, it's worked for other people, thats one of the advantages of being S-Off, so you can SuperCID and flash any HBOOT (+Downgrade if you're S-Off)
Brownie2k said:
It will support the new HBOOT i'd imagine, If you've got SuperCID it's like being region free.
I can't see why it wouldn't work, it's worked for other people, thats one of the advantages of being S-Off, so you can SuperCID and flash any HBOOT (+Downgrade if you're S-Off)
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He is not s-off
Hello,
I rooted and s-off my dhd by using aahk approx one year ago. Everything fine and I testet a lot of roms.
Now I like to upgrade the radio and read that a eng-off is also necesarry. I try to find out if my device already eng.off. But I couldn't.
Did anyone know if the device is also eng-off after using aahk ? Or does anyone know another way to find out ?
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sgrockfort said:
Hello,
I rooted and s-off my dhd by using aahk approx one year ago. Everything fine and I testet a lot of roms.
Now I like to upgrade the radio and read that a eng-off is also necesarry. I try to find out if my device already eng.off. But I couldn't.
Did anyone know if the device is also eng-off after using aahk ? Or does anyone know another way to find out ?
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just go to bootloader.. Turn off your device, then press volume down + power button. You will see a bootloader info. At the top, it should show "Ace pvt eng s-off"
yumm91 said:
Just go to bootloader.. Turn off your device, then press volume down + power button. You will see a bootloader info. At the top, it should show "Ace pvt eng s-off"
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It shows :
ACE PVT SHIP S-OPFF RL
HBOOT-0.85.0024
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.10.04.03_M
eMMC-boot
If I understand right it means it's not eng-off ???
sgrockfort said:
It shows :
ACE PVT SHIP S-OPFF RL
HBOOT-0.85.0024
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.10.04.03_M
eMMC-boot
If I understand right it means it's not eng-off ???
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If it says S-off, which it does, you are S-off.
bananagranola said:
If it says S-off, which it does, you are S-off.
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yes, thanks. But is it also eng-off ?
sgrockfort said:
yes, thanks. But is it also eng-off ?
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Oops, thanked you. If you want to flash a radio you just need S-Off.
S_OFF tool recommendation
Hey, I had run the ACE kit, but somehow put the S back ON (it's a mystery inside an enigma!), and now just want to run an S_OFF tool: my kernel is the 3.0.62_JellyTime_R5-g8e08b6e-dirty ... the tools in the fora all seem to have been specific to Fro/GB, so I need to ask which one is best to run, given my kernel?
And 4.2.1
DHDa9191
Like our original poster, I too want to flash a new radio to get RAW POWER on a legacy slate. Thanks for your help.
Gregory Ernest said:
Hey, I had run the ACE kit, but somehow put the S back ON (it's a mystery inside an enigma!), and now just want to run an S_OFF tool: my kernel is the 3.0.62_JellyTime_R5-g8e08b6e-dirty ... the tools in the fora all seem to have been specific to Fro/GB, so I need to ask which one is best to run, given my kernel?
And 4.2.1
DHDa9191
Like our original poster, I too want to flash a new radio to get RAW POWER on a legacy slate. Thanks for your help.
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S-Off is not an option unless you are an expert. AAHK, the tool used to get it, was retired earlier this week. Root and custom ROMs are still possible with an unlocked bootloader, but getting S-Off is no longer a simple procedure.
cool, so which way
bananagranola said:
S-Off is not an option unless you are an expert. AAHK, the tool used to get it, was retired earlier this week. Root and custom ROMs are still possible with an unlocked bootloader, but getting S-Off is no longer a simple procedure.
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I don't mind getting dirty - but is gfreev.2 alright to roll with given my kernel? it worked the first time, in the kit, but I don't need the whole ACE, just need to smack the sec back out of the device if you have input on the compatibility of gfree v.2 given the updated kernel, please
I have no idea what gfree is...what is it?
Advantage of newer radio ?
bananagranola said:
Oops, thanked you. If you want to flash a radio you just need S-Off.
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Can you recommend me to upgrade the radio ?
I mean I understand that it's always a risk but without that point. Will I have a advantage with newer radio ?
currently I have Radio Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M on my DHD.
And like to flash 12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M or 12.68.60.29U_26.16.04.09
As far as I understand the first variant is the last official radio and sencond one is newest but from unknown source
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295)
I once did an S-OFF but I full wiped my device& flashed a costum rom and now at the bootloader screen its says S-ON.
Every thing fine here, but when im trying to S-OFF my HTC ONE M8 after saying yes at the firewater I got a message like this:
there really isn't a helluva lot to do here. bye bye
but im going back to the bootloader device and still S-ON. anything that I can do to S-OFF my device? im clueless.
Thanks in advanced
Can you change your cid? If yes irs still s-off but somehow changed to s-on normally it can't change to s-on by its own.. so try to change your cid and if it works you still have s-off
There's a hack available that more or less hides the fact that you're s-off. It will do exactly what you're describing. It'll show you as being s-on when you really aren't. Also, if you run firewater after doing the hack, you'll get the same message you got. Perhaps the rom you installed came with the hack? Can't say that I know of any that do but perhaps you should ask first in the thread for the rom that you flashed. Just a thought.
robocuff said:
There's a hack available that more or less hides the fact that you're s-off. It will do exactly what you're describing. It'll show you as being s-on when you really aren't. Also, if you run firewater after doing the hack, you'll get the same message you got. Perhaps the rom you installed came with the hack? Can't say that I know of any that do but perhaps you should ask first in the thread for the rom that you flashed. Just a thought.
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It's told me that at two roms insert coin and renovate . I will try to get back to stock soon.
One-M8-Master said:
Can you change your cid? If yes irs still s-off but somehow changed to s-on normally it can't change to s-on by its own.. so try to change your cid and if it works you still have s-off
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I didn't Check if I still can change my CID but I have the super CID still
romezry said:
It's told me that at two roms insert coin and renovate . I will try to get back to stock soon.
I didn't Check if I still can change my CID but I have the super CID still
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If supercid is still there you still have s-off
And normally the Roms doesn't change the s-off/s-on flag maybe the firmware did it...but yea you should be Still s-off if supercid is still there