On my Inc2:
I Clipped s-off.. then I ran revolution.
Is there a way to reload hboot. 0.97 to get back to my original hboot?
That leads into my noob htc question... How does the hboot relate to kernels and RUUs, etc.?
is hboot untouchable for the most part?
Thanks
paulsg63 said:
On my Inc2:
I Clipped s-off.. then I ran revolution.
Is there a way to reload hboot. 0.97 to get back to my original hboot?
That leads into my noob htc question... How does the hboot relate to kernels and RUUs, etc.?
is hboot untouchable for the most part?
Thanks
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In the case of Revolutinary, a modified hboot is written to the phone that has the S-Off turned off. So if you replace the Revolutionary hboot, you will lose S-Off. The XTC clip process turns the actual hardware S-Off and the standard HTC hboot reads that setting, so that is why clipping gives you permanent S-Off. In your case you did not need to run Revolutinary at all. All that the process did was copy the modified hboot to your phone. Since you have radio S-Off you should be able to replace the Revolutionary hboot with the 0.97 hboot without any issues. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
paulsg63 said:
On my Inc2:
I Clipped s-off.. then I ran revolution.
Is there a way to reload hboot. 0.97 to get back to my original hboot?
That leads into my noob htc question... How does the hboot relate to kernels and RUUs, etc.?
is hboot untouchable for the most part?
Thanks
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http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1766 is what you want.
hboot is the bootloader.
kernel is well, the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel explains it better
RUU stands fr ROM Updater Utility, does exactly what it says.
tpbklake said:
In the case of Revolutinary, a modified hboot is written to the phone that has the S-Off turned off. So if you replace the Revolutionary hboot, you will lose S-Off. The XTC clip process turns the actual hardware S-Off and the standard HTC hboot reads that setting, so that is why clipping gives you permanent S-Off. In your case you did not need to run Revolutinary at all. All that the process did was copy the modified hboot to your phone. Since you have radio S-Off you should be able to replace the Revolutionary hboot with the 0.97 hboot without any issues. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
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ahhh... ok. I was thinking that.. but thanks so much for the calcification,
You all rock on this site!!!!!
times_infinity said:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1766 is what you want.
hboot is the bootloader.
kernel is well, the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel explains it better
RUU stands fr ROM Updater Utility, does exactly what it says.
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off to try this now!
I love xdadevelopers... you rock!
Thanks infinity!!
times_infinity said:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1766 is what you want.
hboot is the bootloader.
kernel is well, the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel explains it better
RUU stands fr ROM Updater Utility, does exactly what it says.
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Checked out that link... it was talking about going back to froyo and such.
From what you said.. all I should need is the part for hboot.. correct?
It was also talking about a different checksum for GB?
Just wanted to make sure before I try this.
thanks!!
IIRC, flashing the bootloader is the single most dangerous thing you can flash and can definitely brick your phone. Make sure you understand the risks!
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I've always used the .76 Hboot since xHausx posted it last year.
I've got a replacement 2.16 Hboot Hardware version 004 2.3.3 model that I just used Revolution IO to S-off, root, and flash my custom rom.
Is it safe to replace the Rev. Hboot with the .76 Eng Hboot that I'm accustomed to and can I use the same PC36IMG that I originally used?
Thanks
No. You can not downgrade hboot since 2.02 was released. Sorry.
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Actually, I think the fact that Revolutionary IO has given us S-off and a new Rev Bootloader would be enough to prove you wrong.
I used Rev IO to root my Evo3D and then went on to replace that bootloader with the Eng bootloader for that device without a problem.
I haven't heard mention of anyone doing this on the 4G and that is the reason I am asking.
I'm curious myself actually...anyone try it yet?...or do I have to be first?
I would say it is possible. Did you check out this thread? Maybe you can use the same methods for 2.16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
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I would say it is possible. Did you check out this thread? Maybe you can use the same methods for 2.16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
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First from the thread: Find out your hardware version: From the home screen, (on a sense based ROM) go to menu > settings > about phone > hardware information, if your phone is hw 004 don't even read this thread.
I'd heed this gigantic warning from that post:
If you're doing this on late hardware models 003/004 (with new partitions) then you should stop reading now and probably not do it. I'm not sure if the new recovery can fix up your stuff after you do this
If your phone falls into the "safe" catagory, then yes it is possible to downgrade using the method above. I even did it myself from 2.16.0001 -> 0.76. Requires a hexedit of the HBOOT header to trick the version information to allow the downgrade if you have the 2.16.0001 HBOOT.
worked for me changed header to 6.16.1002. included updated zip. i am on hw 0003. rename PC36IMG.zip thanks to thefredelement for guide and orig file
after that flash any hboot you want or you can put a new ruu and use s-on tool to unroot
how can i check my hboot version ?
thank you
i tried the volume down and power up and didn't bring anything up?
Hi
I want to S-OFF my desire, and just came across the revolutionary tool.
In their documantation file, they say they tested it only on HBOOT 0.93, and 1.02.
I didn't S-off my desire yet so I have STOCK HBOOT (0.90).
has anyone tried to use the revolutionary tool with this HBOOT ?
or if not, is there any SAFE way to change HBOOT (like 0.93) without S-OFF your device?
Alpharev.nl
1)if u try revolutionary, it will say you that ur hboot is not supported of course
2)if you don't have the 0.93 mean u are not up to date..the latest htc stock rom have 0.93 (ar least the unbranded one)
3)0.90? i think is 0.80? is it? it is an older hboot
4)u cant charge hboot if u have the stock one..the stock one is S-ON, mean u cant change it in no way..after s-off, u can change it
5)alpharev.nl could work
I meant to write HBOOT 0.92.0001 .. somehow the numer had mixed up.... that was weird..
anyway, I have an HBOOT 0.92.0001 with a PVT3 (yea, the device is preaty old, bought it about a year ago..)
too bad.. I thought I could do it more easily (and safe) and not go for the IMAGE way.. but if there is no choise, that what I'll do.
anyway, after I'll S-OFF by alpharev's IMAGE, how can I change the HBOOT? just flash it from recovery, or another way should be done?
many thanks for your help!
alhparev will replace ur actual hboot with the 0.93 "hacked hboot" with S-OFF flag (the same is for revolutionary)
after that u can change it (if u need a different partitions table to get more space on the data partition for example) through fastboot command, booting ur phone in fastboot mode
both alpharev and revolutionary do the same, give u s-off replacing ur actual hboot..revolutionary is an evolution of alpharev but only support 0.93.x and 1.02.x
btw to use alpharev first u have to root it with unrevoked
changing the hboot is only to get s-off and have the ability to use different partitions table..no other advantages in it
And of course in the rare event that revolutionary does not work on the old hboot, the old hboot can be upgraded with the froyo ruu
Sent from my Desire running Supernova Extreme - Gingerbread goodness with Unlimited Internal memory
Hello there,
To day I'm getting S-OFFed I am sooo happy, but now I have questions.
Is the S-OFF for ever? If I flash with the RUU will it lock my device? Can I unwanted lock it with experimenting with roms?
Thanks a lot
It is forever man, don't worry
wildfire-chaos said:
It is forever man, don't worry
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unless you flash a new radio that has s-on ...
I have flashed radio but I'm still s off.
theq86 said:
unless you flash a new radio that has s-on ...
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As mentioned in another thread since S-OFF/Unlocking my Wildfire S A510E with my XTC Clip I have performed two full RUU upgrades including hboot and radios.
S-OFF is still there. Perhaps other's results have varied...
Check out my signature to see what I'm up to and still S-OFF.
Sending back my Desire to HTC for repair due to constant rebooting issues. Wanted to put stock ROM back on, unroot and S-ON it but somehow managed to be a total retard and just ran the RUU relevant to my phone. Having rooted it and going through several custom ROMs previously (most recently supreme1.2), I am disappointed that I didn't use my brain in this case, and now I have to salvage it.
So. My Desire.
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.06.00.02_2
I can boot into either HBOOT or FASTBOOT, however it will not boot into recovery. I have used both methods listed for S-OFF in [2]: ADVANCED BOOT PROBLEMS in bortak's troubleshooting thread (why didn't I start by reading the forums!), both claiming to be successful, however I still cannot boot into recovery.
I would very much appreciate any help. I am hoping that the fact I can boot to FASTBOOT of HBOOT will allow me to somehow fix this, but so far I have been unable to work out how.
I understand I am worthy of flaming heavily right now, so do knock yourselves out, as long as someone has a suggestion for me...
u should flash alpharev downgrader first then 2.3 ruu from htcdev which does'nt require goldcard
Sent from my HTC Desire
+1
And 2.3 ruu.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders
jmcclue said:
u should flash alpharev downgrader first then 2.3 ruu from htcdev which does'nt require goldcard
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I was looking at running the downgrader but hadn't gotten round to it yet. I will give that a go. Is the 2.3 RUU you mention available on shippedroms do you know?
Yes it is, but I heard a few problems that people had with version from shipped roms. In my signature you have the explanation how to get it from htcdev.
Yeah, I did those things and I now have a fully functional unrooted s-on desire, that crashes intermittently all the freaking time. Just like before!
Gonna send it back to HTC, wasn't keen on this line of the email they sent me "Bear in mind though, should our engineers determine that the fault you are experiencing is caused by physical damage, wear and tear or illegal software, it will not be covered by warranty." mind.
We shall see what happens. Thanks for the help though.
Don't worry, I sent mine 2 week ago, but because of buttons. I just flashed 2.3 with downgrader, got s-on, and got my phone repaired in warranty.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders
You only use downgrader if you have oxygen r2 or cm7r2 hboots.. or am I missing something?
via xda app
stankyou said:
You only use downgrader if you have oxygen r2 or cm7r2 hboots.. or am I missing something?
via xda app
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If you have Alpharev or Revolutionary hboot with stock partition layout it is write protected and if you run ruu you will have your phine working properly but you will still have the same hboot and s-off, also the radio won't be overwritten.
So, if you're sending your phone to HTC with warranty s-on is inevitable.
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders
I never had to run RUU ever so I don't know. Lol.
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Hi All,
Apologies in advance... I'm a noob.
Well for a long time I was a happy camper running the excellent Marange MIUI ROMs on my HTC desire (which had been replaced by a PVT4 motherboard version). This was S-OFF and running HBOOT 0.93... but then one day a couple of months ago I got into a boot loop where all I got was the MIUI boot logo... not really a loop more just stuck at the logo.
So I tried several clueless attempts to reimage using the TeamWin TWRP boot loader... but nothing I did worked. So after several failed RUU attempts and random PB99IMG boots and one successful run of:
RUU_Bravo_Telstra_WWE_1.15.841.14_R4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_123851
I had what I imagined was a stock phone running an ancient Telstra release (it is a Telstra branded phone - the other world wide English RUUs refused to recognise the phone - 130 error).
I tried re-flashing the baseband radio, ClockworkMod v2.5.0.7 Recovery and MIUI... and wound up back to square one stuck in the MIUI logo and the RUU I used to get back to stock is now refusing to do anything) and this time I noticed my phone reports:
BRAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 0.75.0000
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYMT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
Mar 5 2010, 21:12:15
So somehow my PVT4 S-OFF 0.93 changed to the above. Which I don't understand... I thought that only a Goldcard could do something like that. None of the recovery tools seem to want to deal with HBOOT 0.75 and the fact that I'm S-ON would appear to be a pain.
The other thing that really confuses me is that how come if the phone is S-ON it lets me wipe everything and install the latest Marange MIUI ROMs ? Surely if it's S-ON then these would have to be signed (maybe they are for all I know).
Finally, if I use adb when the phone is stuck in it's MIUI boot logo I'm amazed I can get a root shell.
Anyone got any advice on how my phone got into such a mess, how to fix HBOOT and get a decent ROM running again ?
Any help hugely appreciated. The more detail the better.
Many AtDhVaAnNkCsE
Cheers,
Doug
"The big print giveth and the small print taketh away..."
How where you s-off, with hboot 0.93? Alpharev hboots have 6.93 etc.
Anyways, did you try the 2.3 RUU? Check my sig.
You can flash roms with s-on, but you can't change recovery.
Hi abaaaabbbb63
abaaaabbbb63 said:
How where you s-off, with hboot 0.93? Alpharev hboots have 6.93 etc.
Anyways, did you try the 2.3 RUU? Check my sig.
You can flash roms with s-on, but you can't change recovery.
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To be honest I couldn't quite remember the state of my HBOOT I just new that it had been newer than 0.75, possibly 0.80, and that I had S-OFF and PVT4.
Your suggestion worked perfectly! I ran the RUU without issue to upgrade to 2.3 which gave me a new 1.x HBOOT and then I ran revolutionary and was then able to install MIUI. Smooth as...
Thank you so much!
I find the howto guides out there have lots of how but not too much why. I like detail on why things work or don't. Like why did that RUU work when so many others I tried didn't... did HTC make RUU 2.3 more forgiving in it's identification of supported phones ?
Anyway, once again many thanks for your kind help.
Cheers,
Doug
dscoular said:
Hi abaaaabbbb63
To be honest I couldn't quite remember the state of my HBOOT I just new that it had been newer than 0.75, possibly 0.80, and that I had S-OFF and PVT4.
Your suggestion worked perfectly! I ran the RUU without issue to upgrade to 2.3 which gave me a new 1.x HBOOT and then I ran revolutionary and was then able to install MIUI. Smooth as...
Thank you so much!
I find the howto guides out there have lots of how but not too much why. I like detail on why things work or don't. Like why did that RUU work when so many others I tried didn't... did HTC make RUU 2.3 more forgiving in it's identification of supported phones ?
Anyway, once again many thanks for your kind help.
Cheers,
Doug
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the 2.3 ruu is not supported by htc but is there if u wanted it. so they just made a 1 for all update if u like, basically any brand (o2 etc) any region and so on.