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what is microsoft trying to do? trying to create a lost hype for windows phone 7? well, you can say that... microsoft is saying that it will gift its each 90000+ employees a windows phone 7 device. everything is detailed over here
funny things are happening, like the myphone changed to windows phone live..
How is it lost hype when it's not even officially launched, and there was no hype apart from in tech blogs and such?
They are also encouraging their 90,000+ employees to build Windows Phone 7 apps in their spare time, so I think it can only do good for the Marketplace!
Don't see nothing wrong with it. Its good business practice, and also says MS believes in their product.
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Sounds like a good idea to me to ensure that there are "xx thousand devices out there on launch day". Well, lets face it, there won't be queues around street corners for one of these like the iPhone will there!
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Sounds like a good idea to me to ensure that there are "xx thousand devices out there on launch day". Well, lets face it, there won't be queues around street corners for one of these like the iPhone will there!
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Will be for me at least
There's a touch of Metro in the new Android Marketplace... More importantly they now have a Books section which I hope will come to exist on WP7.
http://pocketnow.com/android/walkthrough-of-revemped-google-android-market-video?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pocketnow+%28pocketnow.com%29
Yup, definitely metro inspired. I quite like it. I wonder if it's coming to my Android tab and how it'll look?
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doesn't look good at all.
the books section is hodge podge, movies is better... netflix shot itself in the foot this week so timing is good....
that, and google+ is very polished for a beta. wow, just wow.
interesting, gave out 100/101 g+ invites, and now I have 100 more. sweet !
The books section is great just for the fact that it gets books away from the other apps. They are increasingly annoying in the WP marketplace.
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The books section is great just for the fact that it gets books away from the other apps. They are increasingly annoying in the WP marketplace.
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Amen brother ! Couldn't be more right.
Peew971 said:
The books section is great just for the fact that it gets books away from the other apps. They are increasingly annoying in the WP marketplace.
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That's why I'm convinced that Microsoft will address that can give it an own section in the marketplace.
I like it!
Even though it's metro inspired, it's way better than it was before.
I think Google redesigned the new market that way to get a jump on WP7. The WP7 market needs to be improved and I was thinking it needed more apps per horizontal space...like 2 or 3 side by side...just a little while before the new Android market appeared. I bet Google saw that same need and figured they would jump on that style and design before MS had a chance to because the new Android market is exactly like how the WP7 market should look.
Did anybody else notice that they misspelled "revamped" in the URL?
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I think that Googles UI design overall has become a bit Metro inspired. I shouldn't say that I'm complaining though
so now alot more ppl like metro UI..... and other OS are following MS lead....
The WP7 marketplace has a books section
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The only Metro-Like inspiration there is one page with squares.
If you don't believe me I'll link the articles (some guy on this site said I was lying), so much news about WP7 being dead in the water, bad sales and a bunch of other stuff, all this is going to do is push people away. I really hope the whole Nokia/MS Ad blitz works...
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If you don't believe me I'll link the articles (some guy on this site said I was lying), so much news about WP7 being dead in the water, bad sales and a bunch of other stuff, all this is going to do is push people away. I really hope the whole Nokia/MS Ad blitz works...
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ok, provide the links.
Welcome to the Internet, home of negativity.
Its from people who have never touched a wp.
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karan1203 said:
Its from people who have never touched a wp.
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Or Android or iPhone fanboys/trolls
It's no doubt true. I've converted dozens of people even off of iPhones just by showing them my Focus and its awesome UI
jasongw said:
It's no doubt true. I've converted dozens of people even off of iPhones just by showing them my Focus and its awesome UI
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I've converted (or changed the mind of people about to get a phone) about 6-7 to WP7...
Its easy to get people to convert if you are persuasive...most of my friends use android now.
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The apps developed for wp7 were created in only few months plus the lack of lots of features that is missing. All these signs indicate the momentum gained for Windows phone.
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Yes due mostly to all the i-Naives out there... Pretty sad. What's also puzzling is why would a "standard user" choose android over wp7.5????
Key word, standard user. I 'could' see them choosing over wp7, but not 7.5. Would someone explain that???
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Yes due mostly to all the i-Naives out there... Pretty sad. What's also puzzling is why would a "standard user" choose android over wp7.5????
Key word, standard user. I 'could' see them choosing over wp7, but not 7.5. Would someone explain that???
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Simple answer, they don't know any better. Getting advice from sales people who don't know what they're talking about. Plus, there's quite a few who don't even know about WP7.
its due to Android and iOS having their fanbase already established, the bad rep "windows mobile" left which leaves the impression that wp7 is like wndows mobile 7 (they should have called it something more similar to xbox or zune imo) lacking features at launch and so on. personally, after installing Mango, im convinced that WP7 is mature enough to be my full time OS. just love the ui design, smoothness, and overall integration with all things microsoft and social networks
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people in press always loved/love apple. they are the ones in most companies that use macs, while the rest of the companies departements are pc only. they obviously love their iphones, too (and it makes sence, if you know and work with apple products only).
they are the kind of people that still drool if someone makes a bluescreen joke, or a virus joke. they, btw, often still think bill gates is in charge of microsoft.
so it all makes sense. i continue to do my part for wp7. so far, quite some converts happened. and without all-to-active propaganda. just gave it into the hands of some people, answered the few questions they might have had, and let them decide.
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people in press always loved/love apple. they are the ones in most companies that use macs, while the rest of the companies departements are pc only. they obviously love their iphones, too (and it makes sence, if you know and work with apple products only).
they are the kind of people that still drool if someone makes a bluescreen joke, or a virus joke. they, btw, often still think bill gates is in charge of microsoft.
so it all makes sense. i continue to do my part for wp7. so far, quite some converts happened. and without all-to-active propaganda. just gave it into the hands of some people, answered the few questions they might have had, and let them decide.
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Not only iphone though, dosnt android have like the biggest share or something? Theres TONS of androids out there...
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Found it interesting that Microsoft just released an Xbox Live app for iOS users that does almost the exact same thing that our Xbox hub does. Is it me or did Microsoft just take away one of the coolest reasons to own a WP7?
Yes I know that you can't earn Xbox achievements on the iOS app, but one of the main things I loved about having the hub on my phone was to see who was online to play, something that made all my Iphone friends jealous.
Would love to hear feedback!
http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-releases-xbox-live-app-for-ios-users/
Yes i feel the same way, I think Microsoft lost points on this one but i guess it was bound to happen. +1 for iOS
So what are the remaining reasons to buy a WP7? Office, and thats rumoured to be coming to ios. So then with a deficit in apps, mindshare, marketshare, what would be the reason to buy a WP7 device?
What a stupid, stupid, move and when WP7 dies, no one at MS should cry. (Probably all still be on their iphones, anyway).
The integration between Windows Phone and Xbox Live isn't good enough be that much of a selling point at the moment. The parts that are, games that add achievements and what not, aren't available on iOS.
You guys are complaining about something that offers the functionality that the xbox live website offers, who cares? You that mad that somebody can edit an Avatar? Read their Xbox Live Messages?
Let's complain when iOS gamers are playing games with people on Xbox Live.
PG2G said:
Let's complain when iOS gamers are playing games with people on Xbox Live.
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Microsoft being a software company I wouldn't be surprised to see them do that. That's where the customers are.
I think it's damaging to Windows Phone perception wise, iOS has already the best games and now they have an Xbox Live app. Even if the games are not Live enabled, that's not good for perception.
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Microsoft being a software company I wouldn't be surprised to see them do that. That's where the customers are.
I think it's damaging to Windows Phone perception wise, iOS has already the best games and now they have an Xbox Live app. Even if the games are not Live enabled, that's not good for perception.
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Google has apps on iOS, doesn't seem to have hurt them too much.
Hell, I wouldn't mind Zune support on iOS too, haha.
Yeah Microsoft has been stupid with Zune, if they had made it multiplatform from the go they would own the streaming space now. Not sure Spotify would exist today. Typically Microsoft really.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/7/2...ve-app-for-ios-puts-a-little-windows-phone-on
The Verge has an interesting interpretation of this app... expose iPhone users to metro UI.
arkavat said:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/7/2...ve-app-for-ios-puts-a-little-windows-phone-on
The Verge has an interesting interpretation of this app... expose iPhone users to metro UI.
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No it wont, just gives them one more reason to stick with their platform. Xbox Live may not have been a reason to switch to WP7, but being on ios definitely makes it easier for those users to stay on their platform.
Plus Xbox Live users are already exposed to metro through their console so that argument doesn't hold up.
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Wp7 games already suck this gives iOS 1up on us while their fames are nice along with their ability to see their Xbox live account. Who cares if they can't achieve points on such games
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They get their points in Game Center. This is just icing on the cake for them. I said the same thing about them releasing Windows Live Messenger and OneNote mobile on iOS.
I'm due for a new phone soon. This will be interesting.
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I'm due a new phone since August. Been waiting for a decent Mango phone which never came. Chances are I'll keep my Omnia 7 on the side, upgrade to a Galaxy Nexus and buy an iPad. I'll give it until CES then decide but it seems to me Microsoft is treating iOS better than WP at the moment.
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Thread is silly. This has been possible with apps on IOS and Android for years. Microsoft just made a official version for IOS.
boohoo they're trying to get more users. You have to understand MS is a Software company first.
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Thread is silly. This has been possible with apps on IOS and Android for years. Microsoft just made a official version for IOS.
boohoo they're trying to get more users. You have to understand MS is a Software company first.
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And what would have happened if Blackberry made an official BBM app for Apple years ago? Or if Apple had released Siri for Android too? The only difference is WP7 is too new to lose exclusive features, minor or major. 3rd party apps don't count.
uh, this has never been a exclusive feature. As stated apps have been available for years, get over it. Office, Zune are exclusive.
Software company wants more people to use it's software. Wow, who would've known.
Who didn't see this coming. Ignorance is bliss, I see.
Microsoft released WLM for iOS and made WP7 users wait a year for it while demanding developers like IM+ rip out the WLM functionality months before many users even got Mango.
They also released OneNote, which is literally the only part of Office Mobile that is better than iWorks and third party Android Office Alternatives like DTG, ThinkFree, and QuickOffice.
Then the Bing app with Vision and all that other stuff, and even updates it for other platforms when we have to wait for complete firmware updates to go from MS to OEM to Carrier to us for an update on that stuff.
Still waiting on PhotoSynth for WP7... It's on iOS, though...
Really... Why the suprised looks?
Microsoft is internally fragmented. The different devisions don't work together as well as those in Google and Apple. Google would never release a Maps app on par with the Android version for another platform, but Microsoft has no issues releasing OneNote Mobile, WLM, PhotoSynth, and ridiculously good Bing apps for other platforms. They have pretty much always done this.
The Windows Phone Team does not control what the XBox, Windows Live, and Office Teams do; and the management at Microsoft does not force them to give priority support to their own platforms, either, from the looks of it (looking back years even to Windows Mobile days).
www.xbox.com does the same thing, who cares.
And you can control your xbox with the controller. Who cares about that app?
Right?
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Google releases great apps for non-Android devices and they're praised for supporting other companies and are making an attempt to take over the world through superior support and innovation.
Microsoft does it and they're the worst company in the world abandoning their operating system and are heavily fragmented.
Our app still does much more than the iOS app. Would a thread in this tone be created in the Android section if Google released a full-featured Google+ app for Windows Phone? Probably not.
According to this news report emanating from the CES showing of Microsoft, the critics love WP7.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/t...-image-has-a-design-gem-in-windows-phone.html
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According to this news report emanating from the CES showing of Microsoft, the critics love WP7.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/t...-image-has-a-design-gem-in-windows-phone.html
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This is a very very interesting read, well written too! What impressed me more is the fact that they have acknowledged that starting and OS from the start is what Windows Phone 7 is. Unlike others who bash the OS saying 'yeah but they had windows mobile since 10-12 years'!
They've acknowledged the fact that yes the money and customers they made pre-iPhone for 7 years or so were awesome! They decided to fight back iPhone just within a year, but thought windows mobile wasn't good enough with what they were facing. Thus, a drastic re-write of the whole freaking OS! This to me is an inspirational and bold move from a business that thought, we can afford to risk our time and money and let Google come along, give something as ordinary as iPhone but when we go out there, we will produce something extra ordinary. This is exactly what they made money from when they made windows mobile! - something extra ordinary for that era. I think with new design, new idea, new way to present info - they have actually proved a point saying "A decade of experience is much more than one Steve Jobs, but we have to prove it and here is how we do it!".
Thanks for the share!
Critics love it but consumers have no idea what it is.
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Critics love it but consumers have no idea what it is.
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And THAT is the problem!
I spent the morning with a client of mine. We were doing work on her laptop. She's got the Motorola Droid. It's laggy and freezes up ALL of the time. She has absolutely no idea how to use the device or what can be done with it. A few months ago, I showed her the Business Calendar app, but she just doesn't need what Android has to offer.
I've been showing her my HD2 with the BTTF WP7 ROM on it. I explained how the OS gently takes your hand and shows you what it can do, whereas Android is akin to sink-or-swim. You either are curious enough to learn how it works, or you're stuck device that you have no idea how to use.
When Verizon launches a few more Windows Phones, I'm going to help her get one.
Since MSFT doesn't do that good of a job getting the OS's name out there, I do my part.
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According to this news report emanating from the CES showing of Microsoft, the critics love WP7.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/t...-image-has-a-design-gem-in-windows-phone.html
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The linked article isn't a review, or a news "report", but only a click-grabbing headline that makes short gushes of both Joe Belfiore and the history of WP7.
No quote, no reviews, no content, just the NYT playing off of CES for clicks/views