Mods please delete my thread in the other forum I posted in the wrong forum.
Is wireless affected by modem type?
I just started using thunderhawk and shadow kernel. Modem is still eo5. I am noticing my wifi signal is not what is used to be when I was on frozen/genocide.
Will a different modem make a difference?
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Samsung turned down the radios in Gingerbread to conserve battery. So wifi is lower in signal, gps locks on less satellites (without the fix) but 3G and 4G seem unchanged.
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Great
Anyway to turn the wifi signal up?
Not that I know of. I don't think anyone has looked at it.
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I have seen reduced wifi and 4G data throughput speeds ever since installing EI22. I don't test 3G. Multiple ROMs and multiple kernels. Seems I can get a bit of a boost in speed if I disable the slowest clock speeds on my device.
Had no such issue with EC05 SRF and Genocide.
That's my experience, anyway.
The OP was asking about wifi signal strength.
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The OP was asking about wifi signal strength.
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I believe they lowered the power consumption on the radios all the way around. But with wifi don't pay attention to signal bars cuz the devs or samsung change the bars between builds. Example you could have 100% signal but only show 1 or 2 bars depending on the decibal levels they have each bar set to. The only thing that is accurate is a wifi signal analyzer that shows you your signal in decibals.
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jbadboy2007 said:
I believe they lowered the power consumption on the radios all the way around. But with wifi don't pay attention to signal bars cuz the devs or samsung change the bars between builds. Example you could have 100% signal but only show 1 or 2 bars depending on the decibal levels they have each bar set to. The only thing that is accurate is a wifi signal analyzer that shows you your signal in decibals.
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I think a few people noted that they don't have the same range they had on Froyo with their wifi, comparing the same distances from the router.
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I think a few people noted that they don't have the same range they had on Froyo with their wifi, comparing the same distances from the router.
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I would have to disagree I have analyzed my network in db's since eclair with this phone. I have identical db's in the exact same locations just less signal bars. Its all in peoples heads. So don't believe everything you read. I install wifi networks for a living and use this phone as a testing tool cuz its faster and easier than my laptop. Another thing some people don't understand is interference could be the issue of them not getting the same results. If you have 20 wifi signals broadcasting like in apartment it will degrade your signal terribily. I don't have any other wifi signals around me so my signal is constant no interference.
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I would have to disagree I have analyzed my network in db's since eclair with this phone. I have identical db's in the exact same locations just less signal bars. Its all in peoples heads. So don't believe everything you read. I install wifi networks for a living and use this phone as a testing tool cuz its faster and easier than my laptop. Another thing some people don't understand is interference could be the issue of them not getting the same results. If you have 20 wifi signals broadcasting like in apartment it will degrade your signal terribily. I don't have any other wifi signals around me so my signal is constant no interference.
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Thanks for that input J.
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I've had my g2 for about 4 months now and I'm quite happy with it. Rooted with perm s-off, running about 4 different roms, blahblahblah. I have the full data plan for my phone, and I've used it passed the data cap through all my billing cycles so far.
However, I live in hawaii. The data here is unbearably slow. Using speedtest, I see people with scores of 4mb down and 1mb up.
I average ALMOST 0.3mb down 0.9mb up. that's with 3g on, if you couldn't guess.
I've already tried flashing different radios for my phone, but it only minamally increases my data speed for a huge increase in battery consumption.
Am I stuck here, to wander a 2g world with my almost-but-not-really-4g phone? Help me out if you'd care to lend a hand, I'm kind of sick of seeing the buffer icon permanently on youtube.
Toodles.
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The phone is 4g. That doesn't mean your area has it though. Have you bothered to call you service provider to make sure you are connected to the proper tower? I had data speeds like yours but found my phone was trying to connect to a tower in a completely different city.
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Spastic909 said:
The phone is 4g. That doesn't mean your area has it though. Have you bothered to call you service provider to make sure you are connected to the proper tower? I had data speeds like yours but found my phone was trying to connect to a tower in a completely different city.
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There's kind of no tower in, around, or relatively close to hawaii. The closest tower is in L.A I believe, which is the one I'm connected to. So no matter where I go on the island, the signal stays around there.
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You're not getting 2G speeds. 2G speeds is edge which is at BEST and THEORETICALLY a little under 250 kbps. You're doing decent for 3G. If it was a 4G connection you'd see "H" instead of "3G".
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There's kind of no tower in, around, or relatively close to hawaii. The closest tower is in L.A I believe, which is the one I'm connected to. So no matter where I go on the island, the signal stays around there.
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That doesn't seem possible. there has to be some sort of cell towers on one of the islands there. Carriers use each others towers at times to. I know the internet out there can get screwy at times so I understand your frustrations...write your local congress person lol
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That doesn't seem possible. there has to be some sort of cell towers on one of the islands
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You're right, the OP can't possibly be correct about there being no cell towers in Hawaii. The max range of a GSM tower is about 22 miles in the best of conditions, and almost always much less. Towers have to be placed as close as 1/2 mile apart in some terrain or urban conditions. 1 to 2 miles apart is average in many conditions.
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You're not getting 2G speeds. 2G speeds is edge which is at BEST and THEORETICALLY a little under 250 kbps. You're doing decent for 3G. If it was a 4G connection you'd see "H" instead of "3G".
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I actually do have the H. I wouldn't be bugging out so much if I was running speedtest with only 3g xD
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I actually do have the H. I wouldn't be bugging out so much if I was running speedtest with only 3g xD
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Is your phone rooted? If not, it's gonna show H no matter if you are on 3G of HSPA+.
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Is your phone rooted? If not, it's gonna show H no matter if you are on 3G of HSPA+.
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I'm rooted sir.
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I'm rooted sir.
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Even if you're rooted, that symbol will not show unless you've got a theme or rom that is set to show HSPA+ in the status bar.
Download mobile signal widget, it will tell you whether or not you are actually on HSPA+.
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Even if you're rooted, that symbol will not show unless you've got a theme or rom that is set to show HSPA+ in the status bar.
Download mobile signal widget, it will tell you whether or not you are actually on HSPA+.
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I'm running the Ultimate Droid, CM7, LiquidMetal, MT4G, and MIUI roms on my phone. All of them shows hspa in the status bar. Except for miui, but miui is weird. Haha. The widget said I'm connected to hspa+.
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Has anyone tracked down a good radio fix when wimax doesnt stay connected? I know they have radio updates but does anyone have one in particular they would recommend?
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Has anyone tracked down a good radio fix when wimax doesnt stay connected? I know they have radio updates but does anyone have one in particular they would recommend?
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No. Unless you understand the risks do not flash a new radio ("modem" in Samsung land), there is currently no way to go back to stock (EG30).
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There was a thread here on tweaking that. You have to dial a number on your phone and edit something.
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There was a thread here on tweaking that. You have to dial a number on your phone and edit something.
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##DATA#
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Tweaking the radio
I know there was a fix to tweak the radio by dialing certain numbers, but i'm curious if anyone has done it and saw a big improvement in their 4g signal.
Considering sprint will probably not expand wimax anymore, i'm screwed with this weak signal.
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##DATA#
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Both posts above are right. It is in here. I will try and post a link if I can find it. I did the same tweaks on my OG Epic and they work well for me. There are certain setups depending if you are always in a good signal area or if you want it to connect faster,etc
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Essentially you are looking to lower the threshold for signal strength to connect and raise the timers for disconnect. It's not going to make your signal any better. It's only going to make it more usable--maybe. It could also keep you "connected" and not transmit or receive anything. Not too sure how that would be useful.
Well, i know there are things you can type for sure, but i've never heard from someone that has tested it and said it improved their 4g experience.
Was trying to find a signal amplifier because i'm in a weak 4g spot, but i'm not spending 600 bucks for something i should be getting anyway with my "premium data" 10 dollar addition to my bill from sprint.
Pisses me off that they expect their customers to be happy they are switching to LTE. Me and my expensive wimax phone are so happy sprint is changing their cell tech to LTE..
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Essentially you are looking to lower the threshold for signal strength to connect and raise the timers for disconnect. It's not going to make your signal any better. It's only going to make it more usable--maybe. It could also keep you "connected" and not transmit or receive anything. Not too sure how that would be useful.
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They are useful if you are in a good or fair 4g area. I live in a full bar 4g area and shortened the connect time and lowered the minimum signal strength a bit. I used same settings that I had on my OG Epic. If you don't get it now it most likely wont do anything or MAY get you 1 bar if you are in a fringe area
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So, I read somewhere that 4g is more similar to wifi, indicating that 4g is better for the battery if you have good signal. But I notice the exact opposite, 4g kills my battery whereas 3g isn't SO bad. Can anyone confirm this?
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For me it's always been from best to worst
Wifi, 3g, 4g.
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I use 4G frequently while at work. I obviously don't use my phone as much while I'm at work as when I'm not, so it's tough for me to get a good comparison.
It does seem to me when downloading bigger items, like ROMs, 4G will take up more battery than 3G even though it will certainly take longer on 3G to accomplish the same thing.
And for what it's worth, I do get a good 4G signal while at work too, so it's not like it's bouncing back and forth between 3/4G.
From my own personal experience;
Wifi>3G>4G
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Wifi>3g>4g here as well
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jeffro18 said:
Wifi>3g>4g here as well
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Same... 4g def kills battery quicker
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Imho I think it is modem/kernel/ rom related. I certianly think there was a period that wifi was sucking the life from my phone and 4 g was sipping. Presently I think I am doing 3g>wifi>4G...but I have seen this flip arround on diferent versions.
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Eclair: wifi > 3g > 4g*
Froyo: 3g > wifi > 4g*
Gingerbread: 3g > wifi > 4g*
*Was only available when I traveled to a city with it. Closest was ~400+mi away. Lame, I know. Stupid Sprint.
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Thanks for all the replies (literally). I've seemed to notice exactly what your saying though, I was just wondering because I heard somewhere 4g drains less battery in high signal areas. I usually get 2/3 4g bars, so id say mine is ok, but it definitely drains faster than 3g
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It doesn't make much of a difference for me. Probably though because my school is so close to a 4G tower? I mean I can literally see it.
4G is a seperate radio so would require more power. 3G is tied to the CDMA radio. Wifi uses almost no power when connected. So I get days of standby on weekends at home on wifi.
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kennyglass123 said:
4G is a seperate radio so would require more power. 3G is tied to the CDMA radio. Wifi uses almost no power when connected. So I get days of standby on weekends at home on wifi.
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Funny, my device gets the opposite with 3g vs wifi. My sleep policy is set on 'never', but wifi has drained the hell out of my batter since Froyo. It's nearly as bad of a drain as 4g, when I was in a 4g area to test.
+1 and also since froyo. How I long for the wifi battery sipping days.
nikon120 said:
Funny, my device gets the opposite with 3g vs wifi. My sleep policy is set on 'never', but wifi has drained the hell out of my batter since Froyo. It's nearly as bad of a drain as 4g, when I was in a 4g area to test.
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4g spectrum runs at a higher frequency rate than 3g. Therefore, 4g will drain ur battery a lot faster, especially if u have weak or weaker signal strength. Wifi, is low aplitude frequency rate, meaning..it an open frequency , therefore, does not require much power for high speed. 3g is moderate frequency rate. Just to clearify..3g and 4g are cdma, depending on carrier. Support information regarding can be allocated at www.phonescoop.com
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4g spectrum runs at a higher frequency rate than 3g. Therefore, 4g will drain ur battery a lot faster, especially if u have weak or weaker signal strength. Wifi, is low aplitude frequency rate, meaning..it an open frequency , therefore, does not require much power for high speed. 3g is moderate frequency rate. Just to clearify..3g and 4g are cdma, depending on carrier. Support information regarding can be allocated at www.phonescoop.com
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I have no doubt you are technically accurate and it could be the implementation and how they are managed. If I take a full battery and leave one of these on at a tome...as of stock froyo (I think some roms may have had different results) and all gb 3g certianly is usong about half the battery being used as 4g and wifi consistantly uses more.
Sammy should talk to u guys n get theeir sheit fixed.
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I have no doubt you are technically accurate and it could be the implementation and how they are managed. If I take a full battery and leave one of these on at a tome...as of stock froyo (I think some roms may have had different results) and all gb 3g certianly is usong about half the battery being used as 4g and wifi consistantly uses more.
Sammy should talk to u guys n get theeir sheit fixed.
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it also has to do with power time managment in the kernels. i discovered that between the different kernels i have tried and xda. you just have to play with the different roms and kernels and see which gives you better results.
I flashed to CM9 3-15 build this morning and after doing so, I no longer have wifi. I've flashed multiple ROMS, Modems and Kernels now with no success.
Here's my logcat from a completely stock EL29 phone.
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Any suggestions?
I think I'm experienceing this issue too :0 I'm getting a very weak signal when I'm right next to my adapter while my flyerbl has full bars
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dspain28 said:
I think I'm experienceing this issue too :0 I'm getting a very weak signal when I'm right next to my adapter while my flyerbl has full bars
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OPs issue is it won't even connect to the router to even get a low signal.
these wifi issues are certainly interesting.
OK I'm running 4.0.3 beta 0 on a el30 base a 2.6.35.7 and CWM 5.5.0.4...I live maybe a mile down the road if that and my signal blows, my wife is running my old photon that is stock with root and has great signal..is there any setup I can run to amp my signal strength cause wifi tether blows so I'm thinking if I have a better setup I would have better tether signal in theory
You can try a different modem...like maybe the EC05.
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id like a good signal for gaming but currently lags. I'm in a major city usually with full bars but not with current setup I guess. Hotspot works good for laptop tho.
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debage39 said:
id like a good signal for gaming but currently lags. I'm in a major city usually with full bars but not with current setup I guess. Hotspot works good for laptop tho.
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If you're rich, there's hardware you can setup around your home to amplify network signal, cost nearly 1,000 though. Aside from modem, there is no other known way. You can try 3G turbocharger from Zeppelinrox, but that's as good as it gets.
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