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Just updated OTA to ek02 and am experiencing slower 3g speeds... with and without the tweak. Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?
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For me with update, 3g is same, but 4g is almost double.
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If they get any slower they'll stop completely (at least for me).
Sprint is so slow anyway that o havent noticed anything yet
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hijewpositive said:
Just updated OTA to ek02 and am experiencing slower 3g speeds... with and without the tweak. Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?
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I really feel that i am having much slower 3g speeds.
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I am really curious tho as to which modem is the best out of all of these
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I'm experiencing slower speeds and my 4G connectivity got even worse...even did a profile and prl update after the update and it didn't help.
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Sprint's 3G is stupid slow. It's completely unusable around here. For example, the Android Market. Most things say they are "starting to download" then they never do.
I did a speed test and my ping was like 900~1100+ with a download speed of 7~13kbps and an upload speed of 50~100kbps or so.
Seriously, 7~13kbps download?
The only reason I put up with this crap is I'm almost NEVER away from wireless. I work in the technologies field with full gig-network access on almost all the campuses I'm at threw out the day and 105mbit at home.
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Sprint's 3G is stupid slow. It's completely unusable around here. For example, the Android Market. Most things say they are "starting to download" then they never do.
I did a speed test and my ping was like 900~1100+ with a download speed of 7~13kbps and an upload speed of 50~100kbps or so.
Seriously, 7~13kbps download?
The only reason I put up with this crap is I'm almost NEVER away from wireless. I work in the technologies field with full gig-network access on almost all the campuses I'm at threw out the day and 105mbit at home.
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Wow, that is really slow. I don't have it that bad lol. But with that ping and those speeds, it seems like something is uploading constantly. That's the only time I've ever seen speed tests like that for me, while i was uploading songs to Google music. That's interesting.
As for the speed test tho, i feel there is an issue with the actually test and specifically our 3g. The reason i say this is because the speed test will give me a result of 40-50kB/s, but then i will download a torrent at like 150kB/s.... all in the same area. Very weird.
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Sprints download speed for me is around .12kbs to .45kbs in good reception areas... in the same areas ATT gets 3.5mbs and Verizon is very stable with good reception and stable internet that is around 1.5 mbs... so ATT is wicked fast 3g but the reception and internet are both hit and miss as far as coverage goes. Where as Verizon may not be the fastest internet, they are well within my personal tolerance and needs... and their coverage surpasses ATT by a long haul in my area... notice i haven't mentioned sprint? That's because my download speeds on average are (like previously stated) between 10kbs and 50kbs at most! 50kbs is the fastest I've ever gotten with the speestest.net app! Don't even get me started on call reception.... I've honestly had more dropped calls in a month and a half then I've had with every other company combined throughout my life. End rant
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So needless to say... no matter what modem u decide is he best, it will never actually please you or meet any sort of standard for you... i know it hasn't for me
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My 3g is pretty much the same bro
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Mods please delete my thread in the other forum I posted in the wrong forum.
Is wireless affected by modem type?
I just started using thunderhawk and shadow kernel. Modem is still eo5. I am noticing my wifi signal is not what is used to be when I was on frozen/genocide.
Will a different modem make a difference?
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Samsung turned down the radios in Gingerbread to conserve battery. So wifi is lower in signal, gps locks on less satellites (without the fix) but 3G and 4G seem unchanged.
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Great
Anyway to turn the wifi signal up?
Not that I know of. I don't think anyone has looked at it.
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I have seen reduced wifi and 4G data throughput speeds ever since installing EI22. I don't test 3G. Multiple ROMs and multiple kernels. Seems I can get a bit of a boost in speed if I disable the slowest clock speeds on my device.
Had no such issue with EC05 SRF and Genocide.
That's my experience, anyway.
The OP was asking about wifi signal strength.
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The OP was asking about wifi signal strength.
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I believe they lowered the power consumption on the radios all the way around. But with wifi don't pay attention to signal bars cuz the devs or samsung change the bars between builds. Example you could have 100% signal but only show 1 or 2 bars depending on the decibal levels they have each bar set to. The only thing that is accurate is a wifi signal analyzer that shows you your signal in decibals.
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I believe they lowered the power consumption on the radios all the way around. But with wifi don't pay attention to signal bars cuz the devs or samsung change the bars between builds. Example you could have 100% signal but only show 1 or 2 bars depending on the decibal levels they have each bar set to. The only thing that is accurate is a wifi signal analyzer that shows you your signal in decibals.
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I think a few people noted that they don't have the same range they had on Froyo with their wifi, comparing the same distances from the router.
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I think a few people noted that they don't have the same range they had on Froyo with their wifi, comparing the same distances from the router.
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I would have to disagree I have analyzed my network in db's since eclair with this phone. I have identical db's in the exact same locations just less signal bars. Its all in peoples heads. So don't believe everything you read. I install wifi networks for a living and use this phone as a testing tool cuz its faster and easier than my laptop. Another thing some people don't understand is interference could be the issue of them not getting the same results. If you have 20 wifi signals broadcasting like in apartment it will degrade your signal terribily. I don't have any other wifi signals around me so my signal is constant no interference.
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I would have to disagree I have analyzed my network in db's since eclair with this phone. I have identical db's in the exact same locations just less signal bars. Its all in peoples heads. So don't believe everything you read. I install wifi networks for a living and use this phone as a testing tool cuz its faster and easier than my laptop. Another thing some people don't understand is interference could be the issue of them not getting the same results. If you have 20 wifi signals broadcasting like in apartment it will degrade your signal terribily. I don't have any other wifi signals around me so my signal is constant no interference.
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Thanks for that input J.
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So, I read somewhere that 4g is more similar to wifi, indicating that 4g is better for the battery if you have good signal. But I notice the exact opposite, 4g kills my battery whereas 3g isn't SO bad. Can anyone confirm this?
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For me it's always been from best to worst
Wifi, 3g, 4g.
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I use 4G frequently while at work. I obviously don't use my phone as much while I'm at work as when I'm not, so it's tough for me to get a good comparison.
It does seem to me when downloading bigger items, like ROMs, 4G will take up more battery than 3G even though it will certainly take longer on 3G to accomplish the same thing.
And for what it's worth, I do get a good 4G signal while at work too, so it's not like it's bouncing back and forth between 3/4G.
From my own personal experience;
Wifi>3G>4G
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Wifi>3g>4g here as well
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Wifi>3g>4g here as well
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Same... 4g def kills battery quicker
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Imho I think it is modem/kernel/ rom related. I certianly think there was a period that wifi was sucking the life from my phone and 4 g was sipping. Presently I think I am doing 3g>wifi>4G...but I have seen this flip arround on diferent versions.
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Eclair: wifi > 3g > 4g*
Froyo: 3g > wifi > 4g*
Gingerbread: 3g > wifi > 4g*
*Was only available when I traveled to a city with it. Closest was ~400+mi away. Lame, I know. Stupid Sprint.
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Thanks for all the replies (literally). I've seemed to notice exactly what your saying though, I was just wondering because I heard somewhere 4g drains less battery in high signal areas. I usually get 2/3 4g bars, so id say mine is ok, but it definitely drains faster than 3g
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It doesn't make much of a difference for me. Probably though because my school is so close to a 4G tower? I mean I can literally see it.
4G is a seperate radio so would require more power. 3G is tied to the CDMA radio. Wifi uses almost no power when connected. So I get days of standby on weekends at home on wifi.
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4G is a seperate radio so would require more power. 3G is tied to the CDMA radio. Wifi uses almost no power when connected. So I get days of standby on weekends at home on wifi.
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Funny, my device gets the opposite with 3g vs wifi. My sleep policy is set on 'never', but wifi has drained the hell out of my batter since Froyo. It's nearly as bad of a drain as 4g, when I was in a 4g area to test.
+1 and also since froyo. How I long for the wifi battery sipping days.
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Funny, my device gets the opposite with 3g vs wifi. My sleep policy is set on 'never', but wifi has drained the hell out of my batter since Froyo. It's nearly as bad of a drain as 4g, when I was in a 4g area to test.
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4g spectrum runs at a higher frequency rate than 3g. Therefore, 4g will drain ur battery a lot faster, especially if u have weak or weaker signal strength. Wifi, is low aplitude frequency rate, meaning..it an open frequency , therefore, does not require much power for high speed. 3g is moderate frequency rate. Just to clearify..3g and 4g are cdma, depending on carrier. Support information regarding can be allocated at www.phonescoop.com
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4g spectrum runs at a higher frequency rate than 3g. Therefore, 4g will drain ur battery a lot faster, especially if u have weak or weaker signal strength. Wifi, is low aplitude frequency rate, meaning..it an open frequency , therefore, does not require much power for high speed. 3g is moderate frequency rate. Just to clearify..3g and 4g are cdma, depending on carrier. Support information regarding can be allocated at www.phonescoop.com
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I have no doubt you are technically accurate and it could be the implementation and how they are managed. If I take a full battery and leave one of these on at a tome...as of stock froyo (I think some roms may have had different results) and all gb 3g certianly is usong about half the battery being used as 4g and wifi consistantly uses more.
Sammy should talk to u guys n get theeir sheit fixed.
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I have no doubt you are technically accurate and it could be the implementation and how they are managed. If I take a full battery and leave one of these on at a tome...as of stock froyo (I think some roms may have had different results) and all gb 3g certianly is usong about half the battery being used as 4g and wifi consistantly uses more.
Sammy should talk to u guys n get theeir sheit fixed.
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it also has to do with power time managment in the kernels. i discovered that between the different kernels i have tried and xda. you just have to play with the different roms and kernels and see which gives you better results.
I been trying to use the Wifi Tether app from market but lately my download speeds are really slow. Even though my phone is pulling like 10mb my computer only pulls like 1-2mb. And my hacked hot spot doesn't even work even though it's supposed to be hacked. Anyone have similar issues?
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Yup -- I have similar experience.
Lol. Thanks for replying. What are we to do .
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Could possibly be the ROM you're using. Need more information on what you're running. Try flashing another ROM
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I honestly believe this is normal behavior. Looks like Sprint had Samsung put a threshold to throttle tethering speeds. I believe that's what caused the whole slow 4g fiasco on previous ICS builds. They didn't properly bake it in. On Gingerbread I would pull 10+ mb while tethering. Now on ICS I barely break 1 Wether it's wifi tether or the the Sprint hotspot. Also after updating my Evo3D to ICS the tethering speeds dropped down too the same as my E4GT. And I actually pay for it on that phone..
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If you're having issues with connection being slowed due to Sprint, check out this step by step video
http://epic4gtouchroot.com/epic-4g-...g-touch-using-msl-and-bypassing-sprint-proxy/
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If you're having issues with connection being slowed due to Sprint, check out this step by step video
http://epic4gtouchroot.com/epic-4g-...g-touch-using-msl-and-bypassing-sprint-proxy/
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That only works for 3g and being that he said his phone is pulling 10mb he's obviously using his 4g connection. Honestly I've done that tweak in the past and my 3g speeds were still crappy. Even worst it broke streaming on certain apps till I reverted back to the Sprint proxy.
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Ugh well this is certainly an issue then if what you say is true. I would like to fully exploit the connection of my phone. Does this happen in cm10? I might give paranoid android or cm10 a go but I've heard the 4g speeds on those are just slow period.
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Could possibly be the ROM you're using. Need more information on what you're running....
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@OP
since you haven't disclosed your setup here is an off the wall suggestion...flash fi25 kernel/modem and test speeds again...
from my experience some ICS kernels/modems can affect 3g/4g speeds
Did you try the WiMax tweaks mentioned in the General forum?
I've tried tethering on all the stock (rooted) ROMs and never get much speed when I turn on 4G. I don't think I've ever gotten over 1Mbps. I've tried the hotspot hack and others. 3G is acceptable for most of my (very limited) tethering needs, so I haven't asked for much help.
For my purposes, 4G on a smartphone is a bit silly since reading forums and RSS feeds doesn't take up much bandwidth. But I would like to tether now and again at higher speeds to download larger files and stream video.
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Did you try the WiMax tweaks mentioned in the General forum?
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Thanks for directing me to that thread. Unfortunately, I'm unable to get my MSL. I installed a terminal emulator and get nothing when I enter getprop ril.MSL. When I put in getprop by itself and scroll through the list, there is no ril.MSL. I've also tried dialing *#RIL#, running an IPC Dump Log, but the View IPC Dump is blank.
I am rooted, btw, on stock FI25 with Agat's recovery.
What am I doing wrong?
EDIT: Okay, first of all, I was able to make the entry changes using shortcut > Activities Nova Launcher > WimaxHiddenMenu > Extensions. Second, I was able to get my MSL by downloading alogcat, going to dialer and entering ##DATA# > Edit > entering random numbers, then filtering alogcat for MSL. Whew! Anyway, still trying to follow all the instructions in that thread.
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I tried settings from the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&highlight=wimax thread and it didn't seem to make a positive difference. In fact, I'm having a little trouble with stable connections, so I'll have to try a few different things. Anyway, I'm not optimistic about this helping with tethering. My 4G speeds on my smartphone are terrific! My 4g tethering speeds are...3G-ish.
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I tried settings from the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&highlight=wimax thread and it didn't seem to make a positive difference. In fact, I'm having a little trouble with stable connections, so I'll have to try a few different things. Anyway, I'm not optimistic about this helping with tethering. My 4G speeds on my smartphone are terrific! My 4g tethering speeds are...3G-ish.
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Best other suggestions I can give - make sure nothing else is running and if at all possible keep it plugged in and cool when tethering. I don't use it much but I keep it around as a backup in case the main net access goes out.
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Best other suggestions I can give - make sure nothing else is running and if at all possible keep it plugged in and cool when tethering. I don't use it much but I keep it around as a backup in case the main net access goes out.
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Thanks. Should i try water cooling? I don't use it enough to worry, but like piddling with it to get the best performance. If something changes, I'll post about it.
Funny my post got ignored when I tried to give the best feedback based on experience. If you want fast 4g tethering speeds go back to a gingerbread build and you'll be all set. On ICS the kernels are set up to not allow you to go past 1mb while tethering. I guess that was sprints way of cracking down on the free tethering. You get to enjoy it still but at reduced speeds. My Evo3D is also on the same boat after ICS even with a subscription to Sprint hotspot $29.99.. Both phones had great tethering speeds on gingerbread. On that note good luck because you're never going to go above 1mb unless you count the upload speeds.
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Funny my post got ignored when I tried to give the best feedback based on experience. If you want fast 4g tethering speeds go back to a gingerbread build and you'll be all set. On ICS the kernels are set up to not allow you to go past 1mb while tethering. I guess that was sprints way of cracking down on the free tethering. You get to enjoy it still but at reduced speeds. My Evo3D is also on the same boat after ICS even with a subscription to Sprint hotspot $29.99.. Both phones had great tethering speeds on gingerbread. On that note good luck because you're never going to go above 1mb unless you count the upload speeds.
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Actually, I never got 4G tethering speeds on Gingerbread.
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since you haven't disclosed your setup here is an off the wall suggestion...flash fi25 kernel/modem and test speeds again...
from my experience some ICS kernels/modems can affect 3g/4g speeds
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I'm on re-calked FI03. FI03 modem and kernel. I have no plans on going back to gb. Ics is too nice. Will try switching roms to see what happens. Thank you all.
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Actually, I never got 4G tethering speeds on Gingerbread.
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I did with no issues. Speedtest on my laptop pulled 8-10mb easily. Hell I even streamed Netflix on my ps3 at full HD. Something I can no longer do
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I don't get what's going on? Are wii talking about tethering with the cord? If so, I've seen some people talking about tethering with their hotspot. So now I'm a bit confused. Are you all using the "Wifi Hotspot Hack" tether?
I don't know what "speed" problems you all are getting. I've been using the Wifi Tether app for quite some time. Most of the time, ROMs don't let you tether 4G using Sprint Hot Spot hack. The hack would only support 3G. So I just use Wifi Tether anyways. I always get good speeds. What's going on?
And I stream Netflix HD on ICS. So I know I'm getting fast speeds. LoL!!
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I don't get what's going on? Are wii talking about tethering with the cord? If so, I've seen some people talking about tethering with their hotspot. So now I'm a bit confused. Are you all using the "Wifi Hotspot Hack" tether?
I don't know what "speed" problems you all are getting. I've been using the Wifi Tether app for quite some time. Most of the time, ROMs don't let you tether 4G using Sprint Hot Spot hack. The hack would only support 3G. So I just use Wifi Tether anyways. I always get good speeds. What's going on?
And I stream Netflix HD on ICS. So I know I'm getting fast speeds. LoL!!
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We're talking about using the phone as a hotspot whether it is with the wifi tether app or the hacked hotspot. Apparently after upgrading to ICS from GB I'm getting throttled data speeds when I use my phone as a hotspot. My phone would pull 10 mbps, but when my computer connects to it is throttled to 2mbps max whether I'm using wifi tether app or the hacked hotspot. What's your setup and what speeds are you getting while tethering?
I have a epic touch 4g flashed to cricket and I was on wondering why I get 1x on custom ROMs but stock ROMs are just fine. And when I do get 3g the data acts weird and cuts on and off.
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It might not be that you are even on 3G but sprint has this little habit of lying on their stock ROMs by making it so it always shows 3G even when connected to 1x. The devs on xda have made it so that in ROMs shows the true connection such 1x/3G.
A good way to verify while on stock is to go look on the about phone to see what you are connected to or use netmonitor/speedtest to see what connection you are on.
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I had a ROM they showed real speeds and I was on 3g. The ROM was basically a slightly modified stock though....
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another welcome to sprint thread.. my speeds are always at 1x no matter what rom/modem im on because of my area
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Well first crickets 3g doesn't work very well on sprint phones, if you want real 3g you need a cricket phone or be on Sprint.
Data does work on touchwiz roms though, and if you want aosp you have to flash a fix to get it to work on those, but it won't be even close to 3g unless your lucky.
If you don't have the fix its here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479175 use the ics one for ics and jb.
I've gotten 1.6 Mb/s download speed on aosp jb with Cricket, although average during the day is more like 800Kb/s. Area, PRL, signal strength, etc play a huge role as well.
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