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Galaxy Nexus no longer being released on the 9th in the US?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.

if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting

I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true

I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here

psufan5 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.

this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible

Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.

Luxferro said:
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest

I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.

RVDigital said:
They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.

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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?

Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?

criDikal said:
anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010

Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.

eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.

Verizon Reps didn't give me the Thumbs up

So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.

Bootloader is very easily unlocked and you can do any mods you want.
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One thing I've learned from reading many mobile phone forums, the Vz sales people often know less than the informed reader. I went thru 4 Bionics and after having issues even after the OTA I packed up all my stuff and returned it for the Nexus.
I don't wish I waited. I love the idea of owning a Google feature phone knowing I'll always have the latest updates and they'll continue to provide updates for a long time coming.
The bootloader is super easy to unlock on this phone and it's equally simple to root. I never rooted my Bionic b/c I ways waiting to see if I ever got a stable phone before I monkeyed with it. The Nexus I rooted after 5 days. I think this phone is going to receive a lot of developer attention because it's so easy to work on. I don't think the radio is as strong as what Moto uses, but I've never had any reception issues.

sebastianraven said:
So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.
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Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it

andy2na said:
Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it
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So by "fixed soon" you mean the GNex is going to show you more bars for the same signal it currently gets? In my area, that just means I'll show some signal and not have any data network. I've owned several VZW phones and have never had dropped calls at my house like with the GNex. My advice - the GNex is the best phone on the market *if you get signal with it* end of story. If you don't (like me), it's just an expensive paperweight with a pretty screen and "faster updates." BFD if I can't make or receive calls with it out of my home. So anyway, my actual advice is to try the GNex first. If you get signal where you live/work/play, by all means enjoy an awesome phone. If not, return it for something with a better antenna.
Unless Samsung personally delivers a migrant worker to my house to install a newer, better antenna in my device, I don't think any software fix is going to help me (and yes, I've flashed the newest radios to no avail).
Sucks, and I don't want to get rid of it but I think I'm out of options.
Todd

I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
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I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life

I wouldn't listen to anything a rep says. As far as reception, did a test from my device and posted it on my blog. There is nothing wrong with the reception on the phone. If your device does have a legitimate issue, you need to exchange it.
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My GNex consistenly sits 10-20 db lower than my D2 sitting next to each other on the counter. Admittedly I live in an "outlier" area as far as Verizon's network goes, but if my D2 can manage an average of 80 db, why can my Nexus only muster between 100 and 110 most of the time? I've never seen it go below 93 at my house, where I've seen my D2 get as low as 65 dB. Again, new radios don't help for me. To me it just seems like the Samsung antenna is not as sensitive as in the motorola, so to say there are "no reception issues" simply because you may not experience them is patently false. I've been to three VZW stores now and all three of them said swapping out for a new Nexus is doable, but will not fix the issue because of Samsung's crappy antennas. At least two of the people I spoke with were Nexus owners, one owns a Razr, for whatever that's worth.

sebastianraven said:
I spoke to two different reps.
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phone store reps and apple 'geniuses' are derps. they are just about as knowledgeable about technical stuff as you and i are about cthulu. ive had a genius tell me that my ipod would have difficulty connecting to n-networks if i was an lte area... its an ipod... it doesnt give a **** about lte. similarly verizon reps have told me that the droid incredible 1 and 2 have the same hardware with a different case.
most people on xda are actually highly knowledgeable and i would trust opinions out here over any vzw derp.

At my local store the Nexus is all but hidden in the stock room. It's on display but in the group of old phones across the room from the iphones and RAZR. I asked the guy and he admitted to not knowing much about the phone but that they are being pumped by management to push the razr and that xyboard tablet. It's obvious verizon corporate would rather not push unlocked phones but imo carried the nexus to snag the root community.
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That's funny. At my local vzw store they don't keep a nexus out on the display. The sign and mount for it are out, but you have to go to the service desk and stand in front of them after being blessed with the opportunity to hold it briefly. All other available models are out in multiple locations for customers to play with.
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I went from the TBolt -> Rezound -> Nexus so hopefully I can offer some insight ;-)
TBolt reception wasn't an issue for me in general. At work the cafeteria is in the basement of our building and I always saw 4G with an occasional drop to 3g. The Nexus occasionally see's signal, but I still prefer the Nexus and having a Google experience device.
Will it be fixed? I hope so.
Could it be software related? Potentially, as much as people want to argue we just don't know for sure. The Nexus S 4G was plagued with performance issues when it was released and they were fixed it with a software update. (note that it wasn't a reception issue)
Some phones have better antenna's than others, that's the simple truth. I've seen excellent reception at times and crappy receptions at other times.
The Rezound I had was a good phone, but I felt the need to tinker with it to get rid of bloatware, tweak performance, etc...I don't feel that need on the Nexus. I have pros and cons for each phone but in the end there are intangibles about the Nexus that I enjoy more. FYI, my second Rezound had great battery life but in all honesty it matches my Nexus. I've hit 12-18 hours every day this week, and it's been a normal work week for me. There's no WiFi for me to connect to from 6:30am until 6:00pm, I'm on 4g the entire time and streaming music for 1-2 hours a day. I don't had a ton of screen on time at the end of the day 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
If you stick with your Rezound you'll have ICS in a few months more than likely, and it does have many of the cool features already built in like the screenshot capability. I hope you are ok with S-On because you can't assume that it will ever be unlocked. Odds are that eventually it will, but until it happens you have to determine your level of satisfaction with it as the phone stands now.
Good luck in your decision.

100% happy with mine. Hands down love this unlocked, rooted, custom rom, OC kernel, blazing fast phone

Asking for your local VZW store's reps' opinions is like asking a Genius at an Apple store, I wouldn't trust their "expertise" about much more than flipping burgers
Unlock your bootloader and enjoy your amazing phone sir.

T-Keith said:
I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
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They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
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I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life
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How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.

nrfitchett4 said:
They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.
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I currently have a nexus and love the phone, hate the reception. I can't get signal where my droidx could. I pray they can fix it before 1/15 or I will have to return it.
The rezound only displays 3G signal not 4G, try switching to cdma and you see that the DBs remain the same. Not sure why that is but I have spent a lot of time considering this as a alternate phone and there is now way to tell what the DB level is of 4G from the status menu.

With light use today. I'm at 61% at 11pm off a charge from 9am. 9am-11pm.
That's awesome. With light use my Rezound would still be about dead at 11-midnight.
Light use = several (4-5) quick phone calls. Texting. Push Gmail/exchange. Twitter/Facebook. Wordfued. XDA.
4.0.3 CM9 Lang w/ latest LTE radio/baseband.
They can always pump more power to the radio antenna to get better signal but at the loss of battery life.
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Worth dumping LTE for this?

I've been wanting the Galaxy Nexus since the announcement but never got around to getting it. I ended up getting a GS2 Skyrocket and have fallen in love with LTE.
Do you think it's worth dumping my skyrocket for the GN? What's the current state of ROM development?

I dumped the skyrocket but I don't live in lte market. And I don't load roms. Stock gnex ics > skyrocket touchwiz
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This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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navymoss35 said:
This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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Coming out in a few months
I kind of miss the stock Google experience.. once a new version of Android is announced, you're the first to get it Kinda wish the GN is $529 like the N1 was

No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.

Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh

Lots of good roms. switch to verizon and get lte too. To be honest if verizon had a GSII I would think twice about my purchase. I love ICS but the camera on this phone drives me nuts. Plus I don't hate Touch Wiz.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).

havent experienced the sg2 myself so i doont know how good it is, but i got the nexus last saturday and i love it more and more everyday. AWESOME PHONE!

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LTE has a huge battery drain.
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
martonikaj said:
For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).
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OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.

If budget permits, I would say yes, go for the GN. But if I were you at a time like this, I would wait for MWC (Mobile World Congress) where Samsung is allegedly announcing the Galaxy S3 and see what they have to offer in that aspect.

I'm pretty much stuck to AT&T because I get a huge discount off my monthly bill through work
I totally forgot about the Galaxy S3.. hummm

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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps.
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Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Willieumm said:
Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Ummmm... Mobile Hot Spot! Verizon has yet to throttle me on 4G... I use atleast 12-15 GB's / month. That is where it pays off to have Verizon LTE and unlimited data...

Lol again, Verizon is not an option for me. I pay close to $100 a month right now for 4 lines + unlimited data on 3 lines. With Verizon, I'd be paying over $200

Honestly HSPA+ speed are good enough for me in a mobile device. I browse, stream a lot and speeds are good enough. Average around 5Mbps is good for me. Sure I will take lte if there is an option, but it's not a big deal. Finally it comes down personal choice, if you are teethering may be lte speeds are good but for normal usage no big deal.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.
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Fair enough, but the only ones I've seen complaining about their Galaxy Nexus are the ones getting the US carrier-Nexuses. On overall GSM owners seems happier.
Which may or may not be relevant to OP, so it's worth getting out there.
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To OP: I don't have LTE, so I have no idea what I would be dumping, but this is my general take on the Galaxy Nexus (from another thread)
Seriously though: I think this phone is the best phone I've ever had. For those returning it, it probably wasn't.
This phone was hyped like nothing I have ever seen, and lots of people probably bought it on the wrong premises. Some people probably bought this phone thinking this would be the Android Jesus-device who would save the souls of Apple-users en-masse by its presence alone. A device which could slay iStore employees by simply taking it out of your pocket. A gadget so shiny, the sun would feel its competition. Etc.
To those people, this device probably didn't deliver. They probably returned it.
To me though this phone is a godsend. Not only is the HW pretty good, it is also 100% open. It's a device whose openness is unprecedented in other types of phones.
I can compile Android from source and flash on this device. Using open tools which I've also built from source. It's not just something I say that you "can" do. I've built the source and deployed on my phone. No hacking or closed drivers or protocols required. Why? Just because I can. It gives you a feeling of actual ownership which is hard to describe or match.
If I want to run nothing but stock but rooted, I can do that without any need to meddle deeply with the phone. In fact, if all I want is a custom recovery to do nandroid backups, I can do that without flashing or modifying the phone in any way.
How? It's easy. I can boot my phone off a boot-image (and hence recovery-image too) hosted outside the phone. I can boot my phone from code hosted outside it. No hacking required. Absolutely none.
This is what a Nexus device is all about. It's all fully open. It does what you ask it. Even if it is retarded. Even if it is singing the Hello Kitty theme song while in the bootloader. Because the device is open. It's yours. It's yours to do exactly what you want with it.
The openness of this thing is amazing. For me, there is absolutely no other phone I would consider. Others might land at some other choice and that is perfectly fine too.
People returning this phone are probably doing it because they followed internet-hype and didn't research what they were actually buying.
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If you think that sounds awesome, LTE is probably worth dumping. If you think "that sounds... like something I dont care about at all", then probably not.

Had the Verizon GN. Was surprised to find that I actually had 4g where I lived. Got ~35mbps down and ~7mbps up. With mild use, was finding it difficult to get the battery to last through the day.
Returned it, bought the unlocked GSM version, popped an at&t similar in, and now my battery lasts all day with almost twice as much use and 30% left at night. Pages load at roughly the same speed. Call quality is better (maybe just where I live, but the Verizon version was always a little "glitchy").
Just my experience with LTE and the nexus.
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I have both phones and love both, skyrocket gives me 2 days in one charge easily, gnex only about 10-14 hours with extended battery but love stock ics.
If you already have the skyrocket then stick with it, its a great phone, if you dont have neither, get the Gnex gsm.

For now, LTE is the future. I carry a spare battery if and when needed. Battery technology will always be playing catch up.

New guy here coming from Evo4g... Few questions.

Hey guys,
I finally made it over to the Nexus from Sprint. I did it thru amazon and saved 200 bucks... its a no brainer. None the less, I have a few questions about the Nexus Forums.
I see there is a section for CDMA development, but when I have a general question about the nexus, it would pertain to both the CDMA and non-CDMA models right? As in the phones are the same, minus the type of radio they use? So say I want a screen protector, it would work for both models and not just Verizons model.
Im going to get an extended battery, the Verizon one seems to be where its at, no? I didnt see it on their website, whats the price? Does the ebay TPU cases work with the extended batteries?
I now know about the signal issues, just to clarify, if I have a "bad" one the signal will drop out even in a good solid 4g area right? My fiance and I just went to verizon, and she went with the razr. So I would be able to use her phone as a comparison for what speeds I "should" be getting.
Anything else to look out for?
Cant wait fellas...

Screen protectors will work for both phones.
The extended batteries are specific. For the LTE version the extended battery is a must IMO.
A lot of TPU cases such as the androidified ones are compatible with the cdma extended battery.
Never had signal issues, it will depend on your area. Also, the update coming soon is rumored to address this with a new radio
Congrats on the new phone.
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Thanks. I picked up screen protectors, Diztronics TPU and Im trying to find the 25 dollar verizon battery deal. I think its been over for a bit now..

Amazon has the battery or $35. It was $28 the other day...I think Verizon is sold out.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I515BBGSTA-Verizon-Extended-Battery/dp/B006NYP94O/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
For questions, the general forum has GSM and CDMA together as most things pertain to both devices. The only separated section is development.
If your phone is keeping a 4G signal and you are surfing the web without it constantly losing signal then coming back on your phone should be fine. If your wife's Razr has a better signal or might pick up 4G in area's where you cannot, that is just the phone and not a defect.

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks. I picked up screen protectors, Diztronics TPU and Im trying to find the 25 dollar verizon battery deal. I think its been over for a bit now..
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If you can handle the *slight* inconvenience, a solution I'm currently using is actually two standard OEM batteries. For $29.99 you can actually get the standard battery, external charger, and Y-Cable to charge both the battery and your phone at the same time. I chose this option over the extended battery because from what I've read the extended doesn't add that much juice, plus I wanted to continue to use my regular accessories. So basically now when I run out of juice on one battery, I pop the other in and let the other charge. It's actually been really convenient because it only takes roughly 2-3 hours to charge to extra battery, and the fastest I've drained my phone was around 4-5 hours.
Welcome to the Galaxy Nexus and Verizon!
EDIT: Here's a link to the product I'm talking about. It's $39.99 online, but you can get it for $29.99 in store.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12922&accessoryId=49880

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Amazon has the battery or $35. It was $28 the other day...I think Verizon is sold out.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I515BBGSTA-Verizon-Extended-Battery/dp/B006NYP94O/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
For questions, the general forum has GSM and CDMA together as most things pertain to both devices. The only separated section is development.
If your phone is keeping a 4G signal and you are surfing the web without it constantly losing signal then coming back on your phone should be fine. If your wife's Razr has a better signal or might pick up 4G in area's where you cannot, that is just the phone and not a defect.
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hey man, see I made the switch haha... ( no more this or that threads from me )
Thanks man.

damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )

mroneeyedboh said:
damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )
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Believe me, most of us love our devices. Even I do, despite having to have my screen fixed for discoloration and banding issues. But people are more likely to post issues than compliments. Not to say there aren't issues, or that they are necessarily isolated. But I think with time you'll realize you made a great choice, especially if you keep up with the dev community.

True, dont get me wrong I hate sense, I dont use it. But if I cant use the phone because the data drops and the phone calls dont stay connected WTF? lol sure I should have realized that before but soooo many people pushed the GNEX. Yeah very easily persuaded. I'll see how it pans out.

To be honest I don't have issue with data service or any of that. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. I came from sprint also so maybe I just feel spoiled from the super fast data speeds I get now compared to sprint. I used to roam internationally with sprint at my house and now I get good 4g service at home. I didn't even have 4g from sprint where I live. But my gnex is really good to me.
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mroneeyedboh said:
True, dont get me wrong I hate sense, I dont use it. But if I cant use the phone because the data drops and the phone calls dont stay connected WTF? lol sure I should have realized that before but soooo many people pushed the GNEX. Yeah very easily persuaded. I'll see how it pans out.
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I believe Amazon gives you 30 days for an exchange. That is more then enough time to figure out if the device works for you or not. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if we see an update within the next 30 days.
Oh, I haven't had a dropped call yet so not sure about that one either. My defective Gnex didn't even drop a call.

Thanks eman. Yeah amazon is 30 days on the replacement. Now let me ask you this. say the phone I get tomorrow is bad, I'll replace it say in 7 days. When the next one comes do I have around 23 days left, or does the 30 days start again? And Im talking about the replacement phone, say its bad do I get another 30 days for that one too?

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks eman. Yeah amazon is 30 days on the replacement. Now let me ask you this. say the phone I get tomorrow is bad, I'll replace it say in 7 days. When the next one comes do I have around 23 days left, or does the 30 days start again? And Im talking about the replacement phone, say its bad do I get another 30 days for that one too?
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lol, if you go through that many phones in 30 days, you might want to go with something else...
When I received my replacement I actually asked this same question. They told me I had 30 days from the date of the replacement. If I were you I would call Amazon and just confirm that with them. I wasn't worried because I still had a lot of time within my first 30 days anyway.
If my 2nd phone would have been bad, not sure what I would have done as no other phone on Verizon really interested me.

mroneeyedboh said:
damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )
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In my opinion and experience on forums, you will generally hear more people stating issues than those praising their phone. You will also have those that are NEVER satisfied. I would take what you read on a forum with a grain of salt and simply try what works best for you and make your own determination. Opinions on any device, or any tech, will vary depending upon location (with regards to signal), the person, their past and present expereinces, and so on.
That said, I read a lot throughout various forums of people complaining about their signal compared to the Thunderbolt and how the TB carried a better signal than the GNex. Im my experience, my GNEX would show fewer bars but have higher UL/DL speeds and a far better signal in general. For example, where my TB would show 4 bars 3G, my GNEX would show 1 bar 3g. However, my UL/DL speeds on my Genx were far better. You cant really compare signal when dealing with two seperate manufacturers radios either, and Im sure most will say that either im lying about my speeds or lucky. Im in the DC area if that matters. Im just stating my experience.
I will say that while I dont have dropped calls with the Nexus, I do at times have issues connecting to a call after hanging up on another call. This was never an issue on any other phone I had.
That said, while there are some issues I have personally with the phone at times, the pros outweight the cons to me. I love this phone and to me, its the best I've owned.
Also, my wife and I came from Sprint, her a little later than me. I had the Evo, went to the Thunderbolt. I also had the Razor and Rezound for about a week and flipped them while keeping my Nexus. My biggest dissapointment with this phone between all Ive owned is the speaker, but its not a huge deal to me anymore...I use a jambox for that now.

Cool bro I'm in Pasadena MD and work in DC. So hopefully I wont have any issues.

Keep unlimited data / verizon and get the Gnex now?

Are the new phones going to crush the gnex / performance wise?
I am sitting on a verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan right now.
Verizon is holding off on its new batch of uber phones until it sets up its tiered data plan, that also will void your unlimited data plan.
Will i be crying like a little baby when june rolls around and the new phones come out and possibly destroy the Gnex?
Or will the S3 and other phun phones be only a small step up in real world performance.
The Gnex is only $199 now on verizon and the extended 2100mah battery is 1/2 off at 24$ ..
Thinking of going the nexus route to keep my unlimited data for a few more years.
Thoughts ?
As you can tell by my sig, im sort of a phone whore.

The reason why many people choose the nexus line is because of the stock android experience. It will also have the largest rom and development support until probably the next nexus. It seems like if you realty want to keep unlimited data then you have to get the nexus. After researching thoroughly I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied.
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With mod use will I be able to make it through a day with the 2200mah battery?
thx for the info.

I personally don't see the newer phones coming at as that much of an upgrade where I would risk losing my unlimited data for.
I get about 24 hours on a charge with over 4 hours of screen time using the 2100mah battery. That's with moderate use and multiple email accounts and the weather widget syncing.

wow
if i could get anywhere near that then i would be very happy.
on my craptacular Droid charge i get about 10 hours with very light usage

Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
killing is my business, And business is good.

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Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
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At least they won't be installing Touchwiz in a future update... *cough* Samsung Tab *cough* <---- Yes I know it's a Nexus, so that wouldn't happen

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At least they won't be installing Touchwiz in a future update... *cough* Samsung Tab *cough* <---- Yes I know it's a Nexus, so that wouldn't happen
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Yeah I know..... Sad...... One less rom option. Well I guess if one look can hold you over.... you can choose between a Gnex and a iPhone...... Tough call.
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Hold off until the last minute. If something else cones around before the cut off date, whenever that will be announced, get it. If nothing new or better is available buy the gnex. After the data cap plan goes into effect you can still keep unlimited by not paying for phones on a new contract. Just buy them outright.... which will be expensive.
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Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
killing is my business, And business is good.
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How is it crippled on AOSP? I had IMM76D on it within hours of release. Same with IMM76I. I am guessing that you are referring to the missing proprietaries. Not really a crippling blow, more like a minor inconvenience.
Also, updates don't come from Verizon. Verizon just approves when Google can OTA them.

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How is it crippled on AOSP? I had IMM76D on it within hours of release. Same with IMM76I. I am guessing that you are referring to the missing proprietaries. Not really a crippling blow, more like a minor inconvenience.
Also, updates don't come from Verizon. Verizon just approves when Google can OTA them.
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At this point Verizon is selling Gnexs with 4.0.2.....bugs lag and all. CDMA Nexus is a joke.....not Googles fault but just the same....a fault. I don't see how sitting around waiting for a carrier to approve a update is any different than any other cellphone period. Nexus is supposed to be latest greatest....Verizon has made the Nexus like every other phone....to me that warrants choices. Every phone will be running AOKP so sitting around waiting seems a bit crippling when the ONLY thing you are getting from a Nexus at this point is AOSP.
The advantages the Gnex had on other devices are slowly dwindling away.....I still think it's a nice phone that's why I told him to get it. Maybe you feel its a inconvenience.....I feel its business as usual..... not a "pure Google experience" lol.
killing is my business, And business is good.

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At this point Verizon is selling Gnexs with 4.0.2.....bugs lag and all. CDMA Nexus is a joke.....not Googles fault but just the same....a fault. I don't see how sitting around waiting for a carrier to approve a update is any different than any other cellphone period. Nexus is supposed to be latest greatest....Verizon has made the Nexus like every other phone....to me that warrants choices. Every phone will be running AOKP so sitting around waiting seems a bit crippling when the ONLY thing you are getting from a Nexus at this point is AOSP.
The advantages the Gnex had on other devices are slowly dwindling away.....I still think it's a nice phone that's why I told him to get it. Maybe you feel its a inconvenience.....I feel its business as usual..... not a "pure Google experience" lol.
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True, regarding OTAs, but it is hardly AOSP crippled (so far). As long as US carriers like Sprint, ATT, and Verizon are in control, this is likely not going to change.
There are a lot of issues with OTAs on the Galaxy Nexus. Heck, there are some yakjuxx variants still on 4.0.1. I know I personally didn't buy it for quick stock updates. I have always felt that Android does not fit Verizon's business model. I felt that years ago, and I still think that is the case today.

Unless the GS3 is a winner to you... then no nothing else coming out on VZW will be better than the Galaxy Nexus.. unless you like the Galaxy Note aka "Journey" or the Razr HD that is rumor to be coming out..
But the Nexus will always be better later on this year when "Key Lime Pie" or w/e Google decides to name its next OS Version because those GS3'S and Razr's are going to take ages to get upgraded to 4.2 or 5.0 just like most phones now who is still on ICS.. Leaks will always leak out..
You can keep your unlimited data plan even when VZW change their plans.. you just going to need to buy your next phone full price.. no discounts no upgrades..
anything that will make you sign a new 2 year contract will take you out of the grandfather plan

I just did exactly what the OP is asking. I had the GNEX on release day but had massive signal issues. I went back to my Bionic and waited. Then I tried the gnex again, same issues. I went and got the Razor maxx, great battery life mediocore phone. I just jumped on the GNEX again and third times a charm. I love it. Im running Franco MS3 and AOKP and I get through the day and night no problem.

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I just did exactly what the OP is asking. I had the GNEX on release day but had massive signal issues. I went back to my Bionic and waited. Then I tried the gnex again, same issues. I went and got the Razor maxx, great battery life mediocore phone. I just jumped on the GNEX again and third times a charm. I love it. Im running Franco MS3 and AOKP and I get through the day and night no problem.
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Droid Razr makes me want to cut my wrist. Gnex is FAR superior to that gimmick. Good choice man....don't turn back to the darkside.
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Yah, darkside is right.... I left out that I had the iPhone 4 and 4s a few times also.....

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Yah, darkside is right.... I left out that I had the iPhone 4 and 4s a few times also.....
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:what:
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yah, I was thinking about leaving and jumping on the HTC one X w/ ATT.