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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
Don't install it. I'm not sure how to do that with an Android device.
However if it does get installed you will lose root. It could also cause some problems if it gets pushed to your phone.
The devs will have a rooted version of the rom before they will have a root method for the rom.
I think it is safe to say, if you want to keep Root, ignore the update prompt, and wait for the developers here to make rooted versions of the ROM.
The original firmware was rooted before the phone came out. (I don't know how long it took developers to actually Root the phone, since I don't know how long they had the developers release in their hands).
When the 1.47 OTA came out, it broke root, and became a mad scramble to try to re-root the phone. If I remember right, it took a couple weeks to find the workaround that would allow root.
It is a good bet that the new release WILL break root again, and there is no telling how long it will be before it can be rooted again, if ever.
is this a serious question? most updates will remove all hacked/homebrew stuff been hapning since the begining of time.......(i.e. PSP, Nintendo Wii, iPhone/touch......)just dont update...take this stuff to yahoo answers.
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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
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Update lose root. Period. Just wait.
ohh geez, be prepared for all of the topics like "just updated to sprints official froyo update and lost root can i root it back?" my gawd its gonna get annoying
i guess this is a noob question, but how long does it take to get a rooted stock rome of this 2.2? i would assume not too long correct?
usually same day.. its all about patience which there is little of.. i can guarantee you will have a stock rooted rom by this weeks end
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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Been trying to temp root a few installed HTC desire HD with the new OTA 2.3.3 update but during the temp root process the icon goes yellow then it just sits on a black screen (with just the task bar up on top showing) for 20+ mins. and root does not happen.
I tried this while connected via usb (with the app installed visionary+ v14) with usb developer mode on or what ever it's called .. even tried re-starting and re-trying to no avail.. did they "patch" it in the latest update?
*edit fixed typo from 2.2.3 to 2.3.3 =P
You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
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You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
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Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you look in the development section you will find several ROM's that are very close to stock such as LeeDroid and there's even a one GB ROM that is has been rooted and pretty much nothing added.
There's no reason for you not to downgrade as you can upgrade again with a near as damn it customised GB ROM.
Revolution HD is great
I never tried any other rom (yes I'm an Android noob !), but I don't feel like it, i'm happy with Revolution.
It's exactly like stock, only smoother with better battery life and root.
I hesitated a long time before I installed a custom ROM on my DHD, waiting was a waste of time. Custom ROM are WAY better (in my opinion). Just remember to reade a lot of topics before, in order to know where you're going, what kind of problems you could face, and how to solve them. There's a lot of stuff and it all looks hard to get at first, but in the end it's not that hard.
Good luck, have fun
(I apologize for any english mistakes I could have made)
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(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you want your things backed up use Mybackup from the market. Also once you go down the rooting lane eventually you will install a custom ROM which is way better than stock. Try it for yourself and see the difference..
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Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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right now to get root for 2.3.3, u need to be downgrade first. anyway, in the dev corner, they have 2.3.3 stock but rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059563
that is for 2.3.3 but your thread title mention 2.2.3, so don't know its a typo or u still prefer running on Froyo
Current ROM
Install a current ROM
neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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before updating to the gingerbread u first have to do radio s-off. other wise u r unable to get root on it. i have installed leaked version for my phn. i also didnt know that, struggle hard to find and solve problem to dwngrade my phn. did it successfully, now i m running my phn with gingerbread fully root with gingearbreak 1.20 version.
thanks for all these amazing and quick replies ... I used to own a htc polaris and i always used custom roms.. my main issue is this, this is a company phone (it's mine.. but if there are ever issues with it i have a full warranty (even if i break it). Thus i wanted to achieve a temproot, just to freeze bloatware but not leave any "permanent" marks on the phone which if sent in for warranty would void it.
Eventually i will toss custom roms on it for sure, but since it's only 2 weeks out of the box i'd rather save it like this, at least for the first year.. if only there was a easy way to just freeze all that "crap" and not mod it with s-off or what not then i'd be so happy..
Unless s-off and such can be reverted and i can then work my way back .. but the problem is.. if i break it, and can't then "re-eable" s-on and so on and they see it they will not pay for the "fix" they are assses about it here in italy..
one of the main reasons i switched was for SIP calling (got a new data plan) .. if i go ahead with s-off / custom rom and all.. can I revert back in case i ever need to send it in for repair or .. does it leave traces?
I had the very same issue on my Desire HD 2.3
I have a motorola defy with android 2.1 eclair(2.1-update1). and motoblur version 2.21.0.MB525.Retail.en.GB. and its been a while since the 2.2 update is out. bt when i goto system updates in the settings menu and search for updates, i am told that no update is available. i wanna know y. and i dont know any other way to update my device. kindly show me how to update.
Another thing is that i thought of rooting my device but i didnt find any benefits for me to root.
I wanna know that if i root my device. will i loose motoblur? because i really like it. and if rooting can delete motoblur. if i unroot it, will i get motoblur back?
i am really lookin forward for help.
my cousin has a t-mobile version and he has successfully updated his device. and its faster and smoother than mine. so i really need help.
thanks
OTA update availability is dependent on your carrier, check the moto website for your region instead.
Root just enhances rights but won't delete motoblur or anything. If don't see a need to root, you don't need to root naturally.
CM7 still very smooth with a
cm7 is what and whys is it cool?
@abc_universal. thanks. i think i vl root tell me any easier way to root
CM7 is a custom rom that can be run on the Defy, it is very fast, and has a new feel. Look it up on youtube!
Root your device using SuperOneClick. Much easier.
if you feel there is no need to root, and happy with your ROM, then why root? no need to root just because the world roots their phone. if you feel that you need to maximise your phone potential, rooting is the way to go, but you gotta be more hardworking and learn up more about rooting and stuffs before doing it
cm7 is snappy but there isnt any motoblur. so no contacts frm facebook. no facebook integration well i thnk i'll root first.
can someone tell me where to find superoneclick?
hammadvenom said:
cm7 is snappy but there isnt any motoblur. so no contacts frm facebook. no facebook integration well i thnk i'll root first.
can someone tell me where to find superoneclick?
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Get facebook from other Apps.
The first google search result for "superoneclick" is just what you are looking for..
I waited for so long for the 2.2 update for the defy couldn't resist any longer so i updated to the SEA-15 couldn't be happier its nice and stable haven't had any troubles so far i have used the cm7 i loved that to but never could get the market i have installed gapps but still never showed.
yes, CM7 is far better than motoblur crap.
and it's gingerbread already.
do i need to root if want to install that cm7?
and where can i download the latest cm7?
first im sorry to post here, tried to create a new thread but it wouldnt let me cause im a "new user"
Hello everyone.......
I know there are many posts on this topic .. I've been reading whole night last night but I couldn't find the answer... tried so many things - Z4root, super 1 click root and etc. but I can't get my phone to root. In z4root it just goes back to home screen some time after I start the program and the phone is not rooted. In Superoneclick it says Failed at the end after being unable to push the busybox or whatever its name was.. I just updated my phone about a week or so ago cause I thought 22 is out.. instead I got this lazy update for 21 which now I see could be the reason the phone can't root. I should've rooted it earlier anyway here are my specs:
Sys Version Moto Version 2 51 1 MBM525 Retail en CEE
Firmware Version 2 1 update1
APflex Version GAS ASIA USAJORDANRTCEE P031
Anyone can offer a way to root that is reversible? I don't wanna root If I'm gonna be unable to unroot it later. It probably won't have problems with the root and after (when i make a backup) but my phone is only 6 months old and I have 1.5 yrs left warranty.. and I'm like 99% sure that if they see the phone is rooted they're gonna void my warranty. Again sorry for the duplicate thread but again I read so many threads and I couldn't find a way to root it.. also if you wanna know the reason I decided to root - ad-hoc. I just got a wireless adapter and realized android doesn't work with ad-hoc but then I saw that there is a fix.. still this fix requires rooted phone. ANd that's it
Well.. the easiest method is to update to 2.2 and then root with SuperOneClick. SHould work and is reversible. Plus, the 2.2 Update is getting rolled out anyway.
If you don't wanna update, you might want to give a full wipe a try.
I wanna update it's just that the 2.2 is not out yet for my phone. Still I tried with factory reset and still can't root.. I guess it's this update. I hope it's gonna be able to root at 2.2 update.. cause I don't wanna flash non-factory ROMs, just wanted to get root privileges.
Well.. it is available for your phone. You have a Defy.
For me, at last a fresh .sbf flash with RSD Lite solves every problem. But it is on your behalf, if you wanna flash a rom yourself or not.
Thing is I don't want to flash it I want a stock regular rom update from Motorola :/
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Thing is I don't want to flash it I want a stock regular rom update from Motorola :/
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Me too bt 2.2 is only available for t mobile.
I have a Tmo Defy also and updated to the stock 2.2...
I personally rooted using GingerBreak.apk which was very easy to do and from there i downloaded Root Explorer and weeded out alot of the MotoBlur crap that was slowing down the phone...
Then i downloaded Milestone Overclock from the market and SetCPU and overclocked it to be running as a 1GHZ speed and after getting rid of the MotoBlur crap im easily getting 35 hours of battery life on one charge and it is sooo much quicker to respond to everything..
My answer to why root the phone is to make it the phone that it should be without the drag of all the other junk..
But thats just my opinion..
Hi guys I have another question and I am thinking I may be able to acheieve re-root by using unrevoked, but I am unsure.
My system:
Version -2.15
PRI -2.15
Software version 5053-651-1
System - 2.3.3
Kernel version - 2.6.35.10-g13578ee
The above is the current information on my phone which has an update available but I haven't performed that task yet. My question I know there is a new root for those which have upgraded to the new gingerbread, but if am correct I don't thing my replace phone has been upgraded yet with the above information listed. Since I knew I was getting a replacement phone i assumed the software info would show it as ver 2.16 which requires the new rooting method? Am I correct in this assumpstion? Also since my system hasn't been updated yet can I still use UNrevoked3 to re-root? I know it seems lenghtly but I was attempting to be clear as possible to get the best answer before I proceeded with either the rooting method or the update.
Only way is for you to root is to use revolutionary.io only way for gingerbread
Should I update my phone before I root then?
Hey,
Yeah you will need to use revolutionary, but dont worry just google it you will get youtube videos walking you how to do it.
No do not update your phone, updates can always patch things and make rooting impossible (Sadface), just jump right in follow the instructions and you will be rooted and flashing roms in no time! just one piece of advice when you are rooted NEVER EVER accept an OTA update otherwise you might just kill your root, or worse D:!
Goodluck my friend! if you need anything just pm me!
Stevo
RamesisX said:
Should I update my phone before I root then?
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You could root then just flash the latest stock rooted rom. Its up to you really I would just root now instead of updating
Yes I too learned that you must root first, a few months ago i accepted the Gingerbread update - mistake. Oh well, now im rooted using revolutionary.io
It was so easy, literally a few settings in the phone, install the driver, start rev.io, plug in your phone, type in your license key, done. reboot and ROM that *****
Happy ROMming