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I seem to be having some problem with my HSDPA connection on my desire. I'm wih Three UK and I can't tell is it is my network on the phone.
What happened is for some reason it just wont work anywhere I go. For the first few weeks its worked fine and then towards the end of last month they sent me texts saying they would cut my internet off if I carry on using it but I can't see that having anything to do with it as it is a new month.
The phone is rooted and I've flash the new DeFrOsT Rom (2.0a) and it started working again but then when I logged into the Facebook app it stopped working and went to R (also the wholetime I'm connected to a wifi and when I disconnect from wifi I still get the no connection).
I tried uninstalling Facebook and logging out and no luck
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this or it is happening to them or you know a fix.
I also attached some screenshots of the message I get, I can't actually read the full message as it cuts it off and then when you select it, it just takes you to the homepage.
the R is for roaming
how is the signal strength where you're located?
go into settings -> wireless and networks ->
tell me what roaming settings you have enabled
untick the box to allow data roaming
data roaming will take place when the signal strength is very low and you are therefore using other carrier's networks (this might also incur high data costs!)
Data roaming is disabled and the signal in my area is usually quite good. Also when I go into a city around here or anywhere nothing changes it still sticks on R.
Plus before I started to flash it with roms and rooted it, it would nearly always have HSDPA connection.
so although data roaming is disabled your phone is roaming...
can i ask why it is that 3 told you that they will disable your internet? this seems to be the main problem...
have you tried flashing a different radio?
this will definitely have some change
They sent a text I was reaching/reached my data allowance for the month (so called unlimited =/)
And yeah I've just flashed the new radio that is needed for defrost 2.0a however it did happen before I flashed it.
For some reason it has got proper signal and HSDPA for the time being and as far as I know I did nothing to make it any better.
Got a feeling it will go again but I'll keep you updated.
I'll have to ring three up tomorrow if I can't get it sorted as I'm going on holiday and I'll be screwed with out it,
sounds to me like you have a data cap where if you exceed a certain limit your internet is stopped.
the fact that you are in roaming makes me think that it is a trick so that 3 can charge you large amounts so be careful.
glad the radio update worked for you
let us know if the problem persists
although there's not much we can do unless we know it's been sorted with your provider.
Thanks for the help.
The thing I don't get is the roaming bit as when it says I'm roaming I can make calls and text fine and there is no charge or anything on my bill it just uses normal minutes
honestly it sounds to me like a problem with your provider
does it still say roaming with the new radio?
if it does then phone your provider because they can charge you a large amount for roaming
Three only run a 3G network in the UK. To provide coverage and data connectivity (mainly EDGE) in the areas between their masts they partner with Orange. Your Desire will roam onto the Orange (and possibly now T-Mobile since they merged on Monday) network when it has a weak or no 3G signal. To allow data in these circumstances you must have data when roaming enabled.
There is no additional charge for 3 customers to use data roaming while in the UK. It is part of your monthly bundle. However, please remember to turn data roaming back off when you travel abroad or it'll cost you a fortune!
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+1 for the above, roaming is all well and good but of you leave it on when your on holiday youll definately remember it!
McMichaeli said:
Three only run a 3G network in the UK. To provide coverage and data connectivity (mainly EDGE) in the areas between their masts they partner with Orange. Your Desire will roam onto the Orange (and possibly now T-Mobile since they merged on Monday) network when it has a weak or no 3G signal. To allow data in these circumstances you must have data when roaming enabled.
There is no additional charge for 3 customers to use data roaming while in the UK. It is part of your monthly bundle. However, please remember to turn data roaming back off when you travel abroad or it'll cost you a fortune!
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Thanks I didn't realise I could use data roaming as when I clicked to enable it it said I may be charged so I didn't bother but now I will as I wont get charged
I was just about to say that the original problem had gone but it's decided to happen again just as I tried to log into ebay and download something from the market. However I think it has started to use data roaming as there is now an R in the signal box but a G next to it where the H would be.
Think I'll be ringing them up today
I'm going to be travelling to Canada, and as such I don't want to incur charges. How can I put my phone into a mode where no programs will invoke data services? I would still like to be able to use wifi, so I don't want to use airplane mode. Would the mobile network toggle widget would prevent data from being activated?
Thanks!!
hmm, I thought we got free data roaming with our plans (as evo owners). I am checking to see if this is different in Canada...
Yes its different in Canada, roaming only in the US, and not just for evo owners for all sprint customers.
Uncheck mobile data in wireless and networks works just fine, if thats to scary for you try the app droidwall from the market. that was from before data plans were required but i think its been updated.
The settings shortcut widget thing for MOBILE will do the same thing as unchecking the box.
elegantai said:
hmm, I thought we got free data roaming with our plans (as evo owners). I am checking to see if this is different in Canada...
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davebu said:
Yes its different in Canada, roaming only in the US, and not just for evo owners for all sprint customers.
Uncheck mobile data in wireless and networks works just fine, if thats to scary for you try the app droidwall from the market. that was from before data plans were required but i think its been updated.
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From what I understand, we can roam in the US for free but once we get into Canada it becomes like $.0002 / KB. So that's $2 for a Gigabyte. Um ok maybe that's not so bad after all? Is my math right? Lol
Yeah just disable the Mobile Network. Cuts all data from receiving/sending unless you are on Wifi which of course would not be roaming or anything like that.
I just got back form Mexico and just left it in airplane mode for the week. I was able to switch wifi on and off while in airplane mode. With Google Voice, you are able to listen to all of your voicemails through wifi, its really nice.
thisguyinoc said:
I just got back form Mexico and just left it in airplane mode for the week. I was able to switch wifi on and off while in airplane mode. With Google Voice, you are able to listen to all of your voicemails through wifi, its really nice.
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Thanks that's great to know
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Airplane mode, or go into Settings>Wireless and uncheck Mobile Network. Don't know the roaming data rates, but $2/GB is impossible. More likely $20-$200/GB. Probably ditto for texting.
I'd recommend heading down to your nearest corporate Sprint store (Meaning a SPRINT store, not a Sprint booth, or BestBuy, or RadioShack, or anything like that) and ask them. The one by me has been extremely knowledgeable and they're always up-to-date, more-so than anywhere else.
drmacinyasha said:
Airplane mode, or go into Settings>Wireless and uncheck Mobile Network. Don't know the roaming data rates, but $2/GB is impossible. More likely $20-$200/GB. Probably ditto for texting.
I'd recommend heading down to your nearest corporate Sprint store (Meaning a SPRINT store, not a Sprint booth, or BestBuy, or RadioShack, or anything like that) and ask them. The one by me has been extremely knowledgeable and they're always up-to-date, more-so than anywhere else.
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the $.002 kb i have printed out from a sprint chat... but am I converting it right?
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the $.002 kb i have printed out from a sprint chat... but am I converting it right?
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$0.002 kb -> $2 mb -> $2000 gb
Yes, I was just gonna show that it was ~2000 per gigabyte...could be more if the .2¢ per kb was actually per kilobit
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Yes, I was just gonna show that it was ~2000 per gigabyte...could be more if the .2¢ per kb was actually per kilobit
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kilobits, $16000 per gb, \gg
OOOOOO that's sneaky, thanks for saving me $16,000 LOL
/fails math
There's an option in one of the phone codes that disables the data
I think I managed to say a lot of money by going with a low data plan, but they're telling me the android is going to constantly ping the Internet using up all the data allowance. Is there a way to disable the data functionality when I don't want it (like turning off wireless on a laptop)? When I'm connected to a Wi-Fi network, does it automatically use the local network instead of data minutes? If not, how can I make it do that.
I was able to find my data usage on my.t-mobile.com and verify that as long as Wi-fi is available, it will use it instead of the data plan. I was also able to confirm through another test that images in text messages don't count on the data plan, but under texts instead.
This is good. Now I have to find out how to tell if applications are pinging the network on their own or not.
yes indeed
Update: Ignore this, it was working, it was delayed (duh). What threw me off was my address xx-xx-xx-xxx.pools.spcsdns.net aka sprint pcs dns .net. which wouldn't make sense if I was using Verizon? I dunno.
Sprint 3G Data Roaming (BRIAN HANSEN)
Used
150,757KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
So does this make sense to anyone? I updated to 00001 prl and have been using my phone all morning. The bars are much higher but yet sprint.com says this....
Before change:
Sprint 3G Data Used
329,930KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Sprint 3G Data Roaming
Used
224KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
After change and using all morning:
Sprint 3G Data
Used
463,375KB / Unlimited Remaining
Unlimited
Sprint 3G Data Roaming
Used
224KB / Unlimited Remaining
Unlimited
Why would my data be coming from Sprint yet I am using .00001 prl and my bars are much higher? Oh and my phone also does show prl 00001.
Because it's the Preferred Roaming List...aka ROAMING. If you aren't roaming, you won't be using any roaming data.
I'm having the same issue. My sprint data only goes up and my roaming data just stays the same. I don't want to get booted from my contract so i was wondering why it happened to show up like that.
Usually usage information with any carrier can be a few days out of date, even more so with roaming. Sometimes roaming data won't even show up until next months bill.
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Because it's the Preferred Roaming List...aka ROAMING. If you aren't roaming, you won't be using any roaming data.
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You have no idea what the 00001 prl is.
klub242 said:
Usually usage information with any carrier can be a few days out of date, even more so with roaming. Sometimes roaming data won't even show up until next months bill.
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Thanks. I noticed it updated last night. What threw me off what the Sprint data climbing which is usually nearly immediate when it should have been using Verizon.
Also, what threw me off was I used Overlook Fing to check my internet address and it was still showing as xx-xx-xx-xxx.pools.spcsdns.net aka sprint pcs dns .net.
Basically how can Sprint find out if your wireless tethering for free. If you're rooted and using the free wireless tether app will going over a certain amount of data a day give them a alert. Thank you.
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Basically how can Sprint find out if your wireless tethering for free. If you're rooted and using the free wireless tether app will going over a certain amount of data a day give them a alert. Thank you.
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No Sprint will not be notified of going over a certain amount of data in a day, nor is there a cap for data usage when using the wireless tether app.
I just checked my 4G usage for this month since I started tethering on Sprint.com and it's at 17GB whereas before it was like 4-5GB. It's partially the tethering but it's also because I've been using the Watch ESPN app a lot this month. Is there any way that Sprint will kick me off? It's all Sprint data and not roaming since it's 4G. Obviously they can tell I'm using a ton of data but has anyone ever been kicked off for using too much data? How much data have other people used?
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I just checked my 4G usage for this month since I started tethering on Sprint.com and it's at 17GB whereas before it was like 4-5GB. It's partially the tethering but it's also because I've been using the Watch ESPN app a lot this month. Is there any way that Sprint will kick me off? It's all Sprint data and not roaming since it's 4G. Obviously they can tell I'm using a ton of data but has anyone ever been kicked off for using too much data? How much data have other people used?
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The only way that you are going to get kicked off for using too much data is if you are roaming when you use the data. And even then, more than half of your data usage would have to be while you are roaming. So, if your total monthly data usage is 4 gigs, and 2 1/2 of the gigs are used while roaming then you will most likely get a letter from sprint letting you know that they have terminated your account. This is commonly seen when a 00001 or other hacked PRL is loaded on your phone which causes you to constantly roam. But long answer short, you'll be fine...
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Basically how can Sprint find out if your wireless tethering for free. If you're rooted and using the free wireless tether app will going over a certain amount of data a day give them a alert. Thank you.
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Basically, when you tether you are sending your phones internet through wifi to your computer/device. Sprint only sees that you are using your internet on your phone, not where it is going. When you pay for the "tether service" from Sprint, there is a different way that you hook up to the internet. It is a separate service rather than just sharing your phone's internet connection with your computer/device.
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When you pay for the "tether service" from Sprint, there is a different way that you hook up to the internet. It is a separate service rather than just sharing your phone's internet connection with your computer/device.
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Not exactly true. When you launch the unhacked Sprint Hotspot app it asks the Sprint Server if your phone is authorized to use the app. If you have not subscribed it errors out. The hacked app has the authorization check removed. When the hacked version launches it just shares the phone's internet connection with external devices. Sprint has no way of knowing that the internet traffic is going anywhere beyond the phone.
@ gharlane00,
Well put and agree'd!
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Not exactly true. When you launch the unhacked Sprint Hotspot app it asks the Sprint Server if your phone is authorized to use the app. If you have not subscribed it errors out. The hacked app has the authorization check removed. When the hacked version launches it just shares the phone's internet connection with external devices. Sprint has no way of knowing that the internet traffic is going anywhere beyond the phone.
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Also not exactly true.
One thing they can see is the IPs of the pages you are going to, and different browsers make different page requests,like not pulling up the mobile versions of pages. (yes, I know this can be modified to pull up the nonmobile version.)
Not only is the tcp/ip page request header on an Android browser is completely different than say chrome/firefox/etc, but other applications use the same technique, like IM/BT/skype/etc.
If sprint really GAF, they could very easily see that you're tethering, from what I know.
EDIT: As an example, go here, and see what info it reveals.
Code:
Your IP Address / Hostname
Your IP Address: 72.94.***.**
Your Hostname: pool-********.phlapa.east.verizon.net
Browser/Computer Properties
Browser (User-Agent): [B]Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1[/B]
Time and Date: 3:48:11 PM - Saturday, February 04, 2012
Javascript: Enabled
Cookies Enabled: Enabled
Java Enabled: Not Available/Enabled
CPU class/type: [B]OS/CPU Windows NT 6.0[/B]
Screen Width x Height: 1280 x 1024
Screen Color Depth: 24
Window Width: 588 (45.9% of 1280)
Window Height: 353 (34.5% of 1024)
Browser Headers
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Connection: keep-alive
(edited for privacy, of course. )
Then, tether up, try it again, it will still show the same.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but Sprint doesn't know. What another user mentioned above is partially true, they can find out if you are excessively roaming. That will notify them, then they can investigate further and find which websites you're visiting etc. Then they will begin sending you letters.
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Yes Sprint can tell you tether
Ive been getting a text msg from Sprint, notifying me of doing something that isnt in my plan, they claimed I was "tethering" and setting up a "mobile hotspot" well I was sometimes, and btw I use xbox for LTE, so when they see alot of data being used like that, they will investigate, ive been with sprint for 10 years. That doesnt matter to them as they threatened to cut off my service, so I asked if they had any unlimited tethering/mobile hotspot and all they have is 6gb/month for $50 which is useless. so apparently they said I was going to Weather.com and NOAA website to much lol they couldnt even see that I had an Xbox One on LTE for past 2 months, and then you get an arab or some mexican that can barely speak english that doesnt know anything about phones/mobile development trying to tell you that you are tethering, the person I spoke with literally had to lookup the definition it was pathetic, sprint is going downhill as soon as I find another carrier with unlimited im flying to theyre store.