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[Q] Dungeon Defenders on custom roms... runs good?

I'm getting reports that it's lagging on the Evos, but I assume they run stock. Has anyone gotten a chance to play this game on ur overclocked Evos? I don't wanna drop $$$ if it'll be choppy as hell.

toprock23 said:
I'm getting reports that it's lagging on the Evos, but I assume they run stock. Has anyone gotten a chance to play this game on ur overclocked Evos? I don't wanna drop $$$ if it'll be choppy as hell.
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They didn't really optimize it imo. I bought it on my bros evo. The framerate sucks. Mainly because of the gpu. And lack of optimization. Looked like they focused more on sgx gpus. Although the g2 and mt4g can run it. Mainly because of the newer gpu.
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That really blows... was looking forward to this game but with the 15 minute refund crap I'm not even going to try it.

I've been playing it on CM, and it runs fine for me so far. It's show loading levels, but seems to play just fine.
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You can change the graphical settings thru the slider. I moved it to the middle and now it's really smooth. I set my CPU to 1113mhz, but i'm gonna try stock speeds for comparison.

It's not too bad. Tolerable, but not great. What I can see from my general observation, the environment (levels, 3D objects) are fast. UI slows it down. Shows when you try to do something, background 3D stuff is fast, but UI framerate is bad. Once you are done managing your character, and start playing, you should be ok.
Also, 3 bucks is not that much money. I dropped it anyway, thinking that even if it's bad on Evo, it may give developers incentive to work on updates.

werxen said:
That really blows... was looking forward to this game but with the 15 minute refund crap I'm not even going to try it.
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The developer posted this on Engadget
We agree, it's possible to request a refund via google checkout and we've been refunding everyone that's asked through the proper channels!
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For $3, I don't think I would refund. I would expect a lil more optimizations. Id definitely save this game when I get a new phone tho.
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Tried it out on my EVO and its seemed to run fine. I am overclocked to 1152 so I'm sure that helps. Its was a little slow accessing some of the menus but overall the game seemed to play fine..

zone23 said:
Tried it out on my EVO and its seemed to run fine. I am overclocked to 1152 so I'm sure that helps. Its was a little slow accessing some of the menus but overall the game seemed to play fine..
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You can't overclock the GPU so overclocking the CPU helped very little or not at all. Just a FYI.
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I have a stock evo. It runs terribly. Especially when you get a few turrets up around you. Definitely not worth the DL at this time, although i do belive it is an awesome game. Way too laggy to enjoy. Either wait for PC version (which should be nothing short of amazing) or wait til they make improvments on android (hopefully).

willo0303 said:
I have a stock evo. It runs terribly. Especially when you get a few turrets up around you. Definitely not worth the DL at this time, although i do belive it is an awesome game. Way too laggy to enjoy. Either wait for PC version (which should be nothing short of amazing) or wait til they make improvments on android (hopefully).
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They better make improvements for Android... runs flawlessly on iOS.

werxen said:
They better make improvements for Android... runs flawlessly on iOS.
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you have to remember that when developing for iOS they know exactly what hardware everyone is running it on. The problem with developing for Android is that there are sooooo many different phones with different hardware out there. That's the one thing that iphones have going for them: no individuality, everyone has the same thing...

The devs at Trendy Ent. forums said they plan to optimize HTC based phones in future patches. It includes Desire, EVO, Incredible..etc. They aren't sure how much better it'll be, but they're working on it. Also, if anyone here knows any tweaks for the Evo plz share.

Just bought it on Market yesterday, and runs really crappy on my EVO lol. I hope that they will optimize it soon (considering it's suposed to run on unreal tech and how versatile that is on pc no mather what gpu u have).
Also needs lots of ram and i'm having a hard time getting those 256free mb for it xD

werxen said:
They better make improvements for Android... runs flawlessly on iOS.
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They said that's because iOS uses less RAM than the Android OS.

toprock23 said:
The devs at Trendy Ent. forums said they plan to optimize HTC based phones in future patches. It includes Desire, EVO, Incredible..etc. They aren't sure how much better it'll be, but they're working on it. Also, if anyone here knows any tweaks for the Evo plz share.
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That's the exact opposite of what they told me on Twitter, but one can hope, right?
(They said don't expect it to ever run right on the EVO, as it is not an officially supported platform.)

Actually, Gingerbread WILL bring improvements to this game and others.
There was a website (Frandroid?) that did 3d benchmarks of the Evo Froyo and Gingerbread. All the tests had a 2-16fps increase... which can make or break a game.
So let's hope it all works out.
Also, the NDK (Native Development Kit) is going to be updated. Games like Exzeus Arcade, which is VERY graphically intensive, were made by the NDK and run SMOOTHLY on the Evo/N1/Incredible/Desire.
All of this should be signs that us Evo users are going to get some support.
And supposedly HTC is updating N1 gpu drivers... which are the same for the Evo technically cause they have the same processor/GPU (Snapdragon/Adreno 200).
Anyway, we'll see. I'm about to run this on Myn's. I'll report back in a minute.

thanks for sharing the info! now it's gotten me super excited for CM7

Necrosan said:
That's the exact opposite of what they told me on Twitter, but one can hope, right?
(They said don't expect it to ever run right on the EVO, as it is not an officially supported platform.)
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This is what the dev said on the forum: Quote Originally Posted by kimzplaze View Post
Thanks! Will it be more optimised for HTC Desire? =)
Yes all of the HTC phones, including the Desire, could benefit from optimization, and it's something that we'll be trying to do in the upcoming major content patches in January and beyond. Don't yet know how much performance we gain yet gain from them, but we'll get some degree of benefits.
-Jeremy
That came from a 65 page thread of disappointed HTC users (not so much galaxy s). Hope the dev keeps his word.

Nitrous Rom (speed?), Anthrax

I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks

hotstocks said:
I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
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Quadrant scores dont really tell you anything and can easily be manipulated, linpack scores are a slightly better judge for performance but still not truly accurate and easily manipulated, your best judge for true performance increase is to use it for several days preferably a week and see how it runs for you
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That's kind of my point. I have tried many roms/kernals and no matter
what speed claims they have, they are all the same (sense based).
I would think that 3d games like Shadowgun, Nova, or Dungeon Hunter
would seem faster/smoother with so called faster roms and kerrnels
like Nitrous/Anthrax, but they are exactly the same speed as Sprint
Stock HTC Evo 4g? All these roms floating around are visually different,
but the speed is exactly the same, so why do devs claim their rom
is faster?

I watched a guy on youtube flashed 119 roms/kernals and said
SavageZen/MUII or something is twice as fast (quadrant), but
the guy lost the ability to mount the phones SD card and 4g!!!
So, my question is:
For the Sprint HTC Evo 4g rooted,
what is THE fastest sense rom/kernel?
Or are they really all the same speed?
Mainly interested in faster gaming, and I do have chainfire installed.
Thanks

Damn Hotstocks at this point I don't think there is anything different anybody can tell you that would really meet your demand... Perhaps maybe you can seek the opinion of notorious XDA Guru "Captain Throwback" and see what he thinks on this matter, this dude forever has a good tip on just about any relevant issue.

Hmm, it would just seem that people around here would
know what is the fastest kernel/rom for full Sprint HTC evo 4g
sense compatibility. Unless I am mistaken, all the sense roms
are the same speed and people are lying when they say they
are faster (Nitrous). I can see how Cyanogen or a senseless rom
could be faster, but all the sense roms I have tried were no faster
than Sprint HTC stock. Maybe a Nitrous user can chime in here.

Hey,
I am not sure what he did to the software of the phone but it appears to me that he didn't tweak the system speed at all but if you noticed transitions are faster and he changed a lot of the animation settings to no dealy so they move faster and gives the Rom the appearance it is faster but the Rom itself has no physical speed changes. That's my two cents anyways
I hope I helped if I did please hit the thanks button
Stevo
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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This is pretty much what it is hotstocks, just keep in mind these are just a few factors that may vary results from user to user.

Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.

hotstocks said:
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
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U obviously need to read some more, there are 3 different hardware versions of the evo 002-004 and all have slightly differnt hardware thus they all act differentlu with different software, it takes much longer than 10 minutes for hardware to adjustbto new software which it why it needs to settle in for several days
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Thanks for the info. My hardware says 0004
Does that mean I have the newest/fastest hardware?

Newest doesnt mean fastest so no it all depends on what they had when it was made they have different logic boards different cameras different screens different brands of memory but all have the same processor just different combos all run differently
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Thanks. I know my phone isn't the latest and greatest.
But I am holding out for the LTE Sprint phones coming this
summer. It would be silly to waste my 2 year upgrade on
a Galaxy SII with wimax, when I will need an LTE phone this
summer. Plus it will probably be a quad core 1920x1080 monster
also. Right now I am just trying to make my phone as fast as
possible. It is overclocked to 1.13ghz, have sd speed increase at 2048.
I thought there would be a SIMPLE answer to which sense rom and
kernel were definately the fastest, but I guess no one can answer
that simple question. I have been working on computers for 30 years,
I can install windows XP, windows vista, and windows 7 on three identical computers, I can also flash old and new bioses to the motherboards,
and I can DEFINATELY then benchmark the same machines with different bios (rom) and kernel (windows version), and tell you what is the fastest. I fail to
see why this is so difficult to do with a smartphone like the evo 4g. I would think that the rom/kernel with the highest quadrant (graphics) score and highest Nenamark2 score would be the fastest rom/kernel. Games or 3d graphics is where the phone runs into a bottleneck.

not all evo's are created equal bud, that's just how it is

Every computer, phone, tablet, game console, router, etc. is going to have significant performance variances at an individual device level. Even ones that are identically configured, running the same OS, software, firmware, drivers, etc. A 20+ year career as a network engineer showed me that, and nothing has changed in that regard with more modern electronics.
I'm running the Nitrous ROM as my daily driver so I'm rather familiar with it, and I really don't see how you can claim that anyone lied to you. The ROM has simply been tweaked to speed up the UI, transitions, and a few other things. Read the first section of the OP for that thread -- it clearly states what has been improved. Nowhere in there does it claim overclocking or anything that would improve phone gaming. The improvements related to data/Wi-Fi have quite a few other factors at play, including the base level variances between devices that I mentioned in the first paragraph. I haven't really noticed an improvement in Wi-Fi, but have noticed an improvement in 3G.
All that said, the ROM is visibly faster and "prettier" (which usually don't come together in one package) on my EVO 4G than any other Sense ROM I've put on it. You need to read/understand what the dev did and not let your expectations get so out of whack. If you want better game performance, you're simply going to have to get a better phone. For its time, the EVO 4G was an absolute BEAST. Now? There are quite a few better phones.

Thanks, and I agree. The evo can still play almost any game on the market (not gta III) with acceptable performance. Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same. I also seem to have a problem with sd speed not sticking between reboots, even though I have checked it. Same with CPU master free (set cpu) settings not sticking thru reboot. I also think the live wallpaper wasn't sticking thru reboot, but that was on 1.2.7, haven't tried it on 1.3.1., just wastes battery.

hotstocks said:
Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same.
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We'll just have to disagree on that one, because overall it's a much faster ROM for me. However, I use my phone as just a smartphone (multimedia, light browsing, email, texting, etc.) where the Nitrous tweaks would be more obvious and beneficial, and then use my Acer tablet far more for gaming.
I think you should just pick a Sense or AOSP ROM that you like and is well supported, and then focus your efforts on various kernels and trying out their options/settings to try to get the most out of your "old" hardware while you wait to get a new phone.

Thanks, I actually did that and it is how I found Nitrous.
I think it is the best sense rom right now, but it has a few
little bugs. I can't post yet in the dev forum for Nitrous,
but the live wallpapers definately do not stick with reboot,
goes back to Nitrous default wallpaper. Other than that
I am pretty happy with Nitrous and Anthrax kernel (for oc
and wireless tether). Real stable. I was just saying that
when the dev says it is much speedier, and his lock screen
says "Nitrous Oxide System", I expect to see a noticable
speed increase. If you put Nitrous Oxide into a Corvette or
Mustang, it doesn't just get get 1% faster, it gets 25% faster!
With Nitrous you REALLY should notice the speed difference.

Yo Hotstocks I'll give you credit for sticking to what you feel son LOL I'm shock you still debating in this thread however if it's ok with you let me give you a little tip since I noticed you might be a little excited to comment on the Dev once you get more than 10 post... Be very gentle with what you say over there because these people spend a lot of time and effort behind what they do for somebody to come and talk smack about their work... Chances are they'll rip you a new one if you cross the line... Just saying son don't take it to the heart either.

AXI0M/AOKP CROSSBREED is by far the smoothest rom I've flashed

I haven't seen any posts about DroidTheory's new Axi0m/AOKP kang.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/20018-axi0m-crossbreed-aokp-404-kanghybrid-362012/
Its marvelous. I have flashed many, many roms on my LTE Gnex and this one is BY FAR the smoothest and fastest available. Everything is so quick and snappy. In my opinion it rivals the CM9 nightly in terms of speed.
The newest version, updated yesterday, tries to completely integrate 4.0.4 with the most recent AOKP. Some things don't work, like market restore, but it's definitely worth taking a look.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, this rom uses franco's kernel.

Okay...
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Wow, smoothest AND fastest?
Also (if I have this straight) quick and snappy?!

Synonyms are great, huh?

Placebos are great too

I just flashed it last night and its very good. It is pretty fast and smooth.
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adrynalyne said:
Placebos are great too
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Hardly a placebo. It is faster than AOKP, no question. ESPECIALLY the newest 4.0.4 release

Now where's the GSM version? No love over here
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number3pencil said:
Hardly a placebo. It is faster than AOKP, no question. ESPECIALLY the newest 4.0.4 release
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Which makes it a hackjob at best. There is no 4.0.4 source, so I am thinking he probably used dex2jar and tried adding features from it. That will not make a rom faster by the way
Never underestimate the power of placebo. If it feels faster, its due to the kernel. Everyone always says it is not a placebo, but the Beats port is a perfect example. Measured responses show zero change, yet people swear by it according to their feelings.
I am not saying not to try it, I am saying if you think its faster, its the kernel or placebo.

adrynalyne said:
Which makes it a hackjob at best. There is no 4.0.4 source, so I am thinking he probably used dex2jar and tried adding features from it. That will not make a rom faster by the way
Never underestimate the power of placebo. If it feels faster, its due to the kernel. Everyone always says it is not a placebo, but the Beats port is a perfect example. Measured responses show zero change, yet people swear by it according to their feelings.
I am not saying not to try it, I am saying if you think its faster, its the kernel or placebo.
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Then why have other developers started using Axi0ms "Th3ory Go Faster Script (Speed, Fluidity, Battery Life, RAM Management)"
Surely rom developers know a placebo from the real deal.

We aren't using it so...'other developers' is pretty subjective.
Do you really believe that one single guy knows the secrets to making Android go fast and Google does not?
Thats the problem with placebos. The more people believe in them, the more conviction everyone has that it is real.
Look how far nuking batterystats went in terms of placebo. We heard about it for years, everyone believed it worked, and most took it as gospel until recently.
How many devs start their posts with deodexed and zipaligned for performance? Neither affect performance.
How about those that have a zipalign script every boot? Zipalign only works once.
How about the build.prop tweak of maxevents = 240 for window manager? Do you really think that setting it to 240 increases the framerate by even 1 frame per second?
Many, many placebos out there.

adrynalyne said:
We aren't using it so...'other developers' is pretty subjective.
Do you really believe that one single guy knows the secrets to making Android go fast and Google does not?
Thats the problem with placebos. The more people believe in them, the more conviction everyone has that it is real.
Look how far nuking batterystats went in terms of placebo. We heard about it for years, everyone believed it worked, and most took it as gospel until recently.
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Have you even TRIED the rom? I would bet you have not. Why are you arguing semantics with me? You will not get me to change my mind. THIS ROM IS FASTER THAN AOKP B27.
Also, the battery life is great. Far better than stock AOKP B27. I get 10% less battery drain overnight than I did with just AOKP B27.
This is a good rom, it is faster than AOKP B27, comes with a great kernel, etc. What's your deal?

LOL...
Blind as can be. You are so tied up in your own little world, that you didn't hear a word I said. I am sure the rom is nice, but show some measurable numbers before saying its faster than...anything.
I have been around the block a few times to know when a placebo is in effect. I have even run some blind tests with kernels. I literally had a test group say they felt a larger performance difference from kernel A to kernel B. Like 30% said kernel A was better.
They were both the same exact kernel, no changes between them, both compiled within minutes of each other. Imagine their surprise when I gave them the results and explained both kernels were identical.
I am not asking you or telling you to change anything, but unless you can provide measurable results, your opinion is just that. If you like the rom, I am happy for you. Enjoy it.

adrynalyne said:
LOL...
Blind as can be. You are so tied up in your own little world, that you didn't hear a word I said. I am sure the rom is nice, but show some measurable numbers before saying its faster than...anything.
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Uh, I didn't 'hear a word' you said because you edited your post AT THE SAME TIME I SUBMITTED MINE.
If I had two gnex I would prove you wrong right now, but sadly I cannot.
I'm done with you. I was just trying to bring this great rom over to the XDA forums.

number3pencil said:
Then why have other developers started using Axi0ms "Th3ory Go Faster Script (Speed, Fluidity, Battery Life, RAM Management)"
Surely rom developers know a placebo from the real deal.
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this script you describe here is 100% nonsense (RAM Management?) and no developer who knows "placebo from the real deal" would use a hacky script from some WinZip Wizard

number3pencil said:
Uh, I didn't 'hear a word' you said because you edited your post AT THE SAME TIME I SUBMITTED MINE.
If I had two gnex I would prove you wrong right now, but sadly I cannot.
I'm done with you. I was just trying to bring this great rom over to the XDA forums.
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I am sure the dev can bring it over if he so wishes. Why are you taking this so personally?

Not a fair argument adrynalyne.

You know me. I never play fair.

AOKP and BAMF are smoother in my experience. And the screen tweaks in Axiom caused horrible purple tinges for me.

I was an AOKP faithful, but Axiom crossbread snatched me

[REQUEST][KERNEL] Icy Glitch port? Nyan Colonel for JB? Custom?

Was a previous Fascinate user (as a PMP-only), till I inadvertently knocked it into my bed-side trash bin and took said trash out I loved the modified ICS-based AOKP that Icy Glitch did, but more specifically their kernel that was included! When I got the Epic 4G (non-touch, don't worry lol) I started looking around and Nyan Colonel looked like my cup 'o tea with all the tweaking options Marcusant included; however, not only could I not find a working link to it anywhere but the last version wasn't even available for JB Right now I'm running Nitest (Effsi's), and that actually appears to be the only stand-alone packaged Kernel available for the D700 as well. I'd honestly give compiling one a try except I'm stuck with WWAN home internet and a 5GB limit per month that 2 others use on occasion. :crying: As such I rely on the smarts and abilities of you fine XDA'ers :highfive:
At any rate, as I've no experience with Linux I do not know how complicated these requests are, so please excuse my ignorance lol. But to me it seems like certain features (commits?) are fairly modular in nature and appear as though they are almost "a la carte". If it's harder than it sounds, by all means let me know and I'll be content with what is available.
If anyone does take up my suggestion, which not to try and dictate anything, but the one thing that is a must-have for me is Voodoo Sound. I use this Epic as a media player and not a phone, which without Voodoo Sound the audio quality (specifically with earphones) is overly-bright and defeats the sole purpose I have it for
That being said, while porting Icy Glitch (Git Hub, XDA Thread) to the Epic 4G would be awesome, I do realize that is likely going to require the most work and so I don't really expect it to happen. However, what I'm primarily interested in is the ability to LiveOC, as on the Fascinate I found that even running at 101(%, MHz?) offered a significant boost to performance, in particular I/O's. While I may not always use the max achievable overclock, I did always keep it at 101 for at least the benefits it provided, but it's always nice to have more performance available literally at your finger tips!
Nyan Colonel v5 (Git Hub, XDA Thread) had it all though, and was even for the Epic 4G! I don't know if he took it down because he moved on to the Nexus, or what Though, I suspect the fact he moved on is why he didn't reply to my PM a few weeks ago, which is understandable and I'm sure he gets asked a lot :\
As for "Custom?"... If someone has their own kernel, or have one they are working on, this would be my "wish list" of stuff to have:
LiveOC [His XDA Thread for the LiveOC Git location links to HERE (108MB), but he also has a repo for "Nexus S ICS" which if new=better then that is HERE (118MB).]
 - If not part of LiveOC: Frequency multipliers up to 1600MHz for CPU w/o modifying base frequency,
  individual GPU clock control (possible?), individual RAM clock control (possible?)
Voodoo Sound [For D700]
 - Preferably offer a version with and without Voodoo Color, as some users need/like it, yet for me I get
  unfixable color issues
Governors & Schedulers [Nitest, at least Effsi's ver, has a bunch to pick from. Can you have too many?]
 - Scary gov seems to do a good job of keeping CPU freq low (100MHz vs 200MHz) and scaling up
  quickly, giving me no instability problems at 1200MHz. 'fifo' sched has been working well for me, but
  I was not able to notice any performance differences between any of the choices through Quadrant benchmark
USB Hub [Looking to try out connecting my Xonar U3 USB sound card for shiz-n-giggles, but USB flash storage would be a benefit!]
Latest Linaro & Linux Kernel [Doesn't have to be newest, but fairly recent would be nice heh]
 - Compiled with "O3" optimization flag, as it does seem to help some.
BigMem [As having a camera is quite handy! (Not sure if it pertains to vid playback as well)]
I'm sure there is more but let's be real, I'm probably pushing my luck the way it is! lol Though if lots of people showed interest and provided more tweaks/features they'd like, I kinda think it'd be cool to have an Epic 4G "XDA Community Kernel"
Thanks! (Especially if you made it this far lol)

30th Birthday Bump (ok fine, not for another 11mins, but close enough! lol)
So if not for a every-day [REQUEST], how about for a Birthday-[REQUEST]?! :laugh:

Burban502 said:
30th Birthday Bump (ok fine, not for another 11mins, but close enough! lol)
So if not for a every-day [REQUEST], how about for a Birthday-[REQUEST]?! :laugh:
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Lol happy b day and hope this comes true
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Lol happy b day and hope this comes true
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Thanks man :highfive: I do, too (obviously lol)
Also, thanks to whomever moved it to the right forum for me, wasn't quite sure where it belonged.

[Q] How do I get my sprint gnex set up with 4.4 and (if possible) unlocked?

I got a gnexus from ebay today and want to know how I can:
-root and set up a cm11 snapshot (reasonably stable kitkat rom)
-install cwm touch
-unlock the bootloader
-(if possible) get it to activate with another carrier
-have a way of getting back to stock-just in case, not like this thing is under warranty anyway
The thing is, I need to do all of this from a linux system (ubuntu 13.something) and while I do have a fair amount of experience with android and how it works, I have very little idea of the specific aspects of the gnexus. If it helps, my main phone before this was a galaxy s3, I've heard that at the hardware level they're very similar. Thanks in advance for the help.

Just take a looksie around this forum section. TONS of threads with full detailed information on how to go about it.
I'm not sure about the activation on another carrier part as I've never done anything to that degree.
But I CAN say that for all other things you ask it will be a LOT easier than anything you did with the s3(or simpler at least IMHO)
For unlocking boot loader, just install the android SDK to your Linux system(VERY easy, just Google "Android SDK ubuntu/Linux). Then after adding the platform-tools dir from the SDK to your PATH(easy instructions found via googling and on the android SDK download/install site) you simply boot into bootloader/fastboot mode(power off, hold power and both volume buttons at same time) then plug into your computer, then open terminal and enter "fastboot oem unlock"(no quotes) and follow instructions that pop up on device and in terminal. Keep in mind doing this OEM unlock command will COMPLETELY WIPE ALL DATA FROM DEVICE INCLUDING PICTURES AND EVERYTHING LOCATED ON /SDCARD PARTITION .
After that it's a walk in the park to fastboot flash custom recovery img (download whichever recovery version you prefer, I use twrp, make sure you get the one specified for toroplus which can be found again easily via Google "official twrp toroplus".. Be certain you are using the NEWEST img which will be 2.7 or above(not sure if newer released yet) so that you do not get error installing a 4.4 based ROM & gapps)
After unlocking bootloader I recommend using the device itself to download the ROM and gapps zips that you intend to install so that you do not have to use adb to push the files to /sdcard..its just easier.
Then you just boot into recovery mode(after install of custom recovery of course) and choose to install your ROM and gapps zips. Reboot and presto.
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As for getting back to stock, that is ALSO VERY SIMPLE! gotta love a nexus device!
You just go here on your computer, https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Grab a stock factory image package(make sure to get the one for your specific variant, for sprint gnex it is mysidspr aka toroplus) and then uncompress it on your laptop, open terminal in that dir, then just plug device in while in bootloader, and run the flash-all.sh (on my setup I have to do "sudo ./flash-all.sh" then just be patient and DO NOT UNPLUG until FULLY FINISHED (radio flashes might seem to take a long time)
If you need any clarification on anything and cannot find the information in these forums, just let me know. Happy to help out.
And welcome to the exciting life of a nexus device, things are sooo much simpler in these lands!
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Get cwm touch IMG from here
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
For sprint it is listed as Google Galaxy Nexus(sprint)
Get cm11 snapshot from here
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=toroplus
And gapps are easily found pretty much anywhere, and links are on that last linked site for cyanogenmod.
Enjoy!
And remember, Google Search is your best friend with the Galaxy Nexus Sprint/toroplus tag before anything you will want, Pretty much has official support and downloads for everything

I was coming from the land of manufacturer controlled phones (s3 & g1 to a certain extent) so the main thing I was worried about was how "unlocking" the bootloader sounded like something that I should prepare for, and fear, like flashing one, I'm loving my new nexus. Things really are soooo much simpler, I set it up like I have my s3 set up with appearance and all, though I kind of want to know the best way of transferring apps, other than opening them and using android beam to open play store. Is there a way that I can have it automatically download the apps that I have on my s3?

There could/should have been an option for "automatic restore"(it's not something you choose upon flashing a ROM though. It just does it if you had it set, and I don't know if it works between devices.) As seen below in device settings
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I've had issues with it not working before though. I think depends on gapps used and if it syncwd to Google correctly to begin with.
You could try an app like Helium or similar also(some use titanium backup app, I've never used it personally though so cannot comment on it's functions, though it is VERY popular application)
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And yea, I was also VERY surprised by the easiness and simplistic nature of the nexus development environment also. Especially coming from a crazy locked down droid X2!
Is just HEAVEN having stock IMG(although we also had simple stock restore SBF files using RSD lite program for x2) but nothing compares to grabbing EVERYTHING you need RIGHT FROM GOOGLE nexus development pages. And ALSO having full on support for all major custom ROMs. With tons of kernel development also.
You may have come at a great time also if our amazing devs are able to get the 3.4based Linux/android kernel working for us with all kinds of enhancements.
Over two years old and STILL very exciting development going on for this device. Welcome again!
And feel free to PM me any questions. Very familiar with Tuna devices will help much as I can

wait, what are the improvements that a linux 3.4 kernel could bring? I know it could mean improvements on a desktop, but what could it really do for android?

There are many improvements.
I cannot name specifics since I am not developer. But the android kernel is based on the Linux kernel. So any bugfixes and improvement to the base kernel in theory are also passed to the android kernel.
We have many great kernel devs who also have spent time backporting things to our current available kernel choices(which are GREAT by the way...I can't say ANY kernel is bad in any way for the Gnex...and you can use ANY tuna kernel for ANY tuna variant(toro, toroplus, maguro)).
But there are many of us who feel that Google kinda stiffed the Gnex when it comes to specific SoC optimizations. And bringing a 3.4kernel(which was what I believe is what most devices that got KitKat 4.4.x shipped with) will bring improved performance and better all around. Along with any optimizations from omapzoom that were only for 3.4 kernels.
Sorry I couldn't be more technically detailed about it :/ too far over my head at this point in time.

how well does the screen-bezel blending on this thing compare to that of the nexus 5 or nexus 4? I've found like absolutely nowhere that actually gives a review of that aspect. I really love a phone that the screen completely blends in with the bezel when off and as much as possible in the black areas of an active screen, I never got the experience with my white galaxy s3, and wouldn't have anyway with the "black" version as the black version is like a brushed dark grey instead of a glossy black the same color as the screen.

Someone else gonna have to chime in for that. I don't have much to compare it to.
The bottom and top bezel I feel could've been smaller, but I always felt this thing looks and feels great in the hand

dreamwave said:
how well does the screen-bezel blending on this thing compare to that of the nexus 5 or nexus 4? I've found like absolutely nowhere that actually gives a review of that aspect. I really love a phone that the screen completely blends in with the bezel when off and as much as possible in the black areas of an active screen, I never got the experience with my white galaxy s3, and wouldn't have anyway with the "black" version as the black version is like a brushed dark grey instead of a glossy black the same color as the screen.
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It's slightly better than the Nexus 5. But the AMOLED used in the Galaxy Nexus doesn't really shut off totally displaying blacks (and I had 3 different displays). You can find others saying the same thing online too. Even with that, the blacks on the GNex are deeper than the Nexus 4/5.
I used a Galaxy Nexus before my current Nexus 5 before , mum has a Nexus 4.
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I have found that if u set omap gamma interface to 6 or 7 you will get much deeper/darker Black's on the Gnex screen in case you wanted to give that a shot and see how it looks for ya.
Sometimes I will even set it to between 8+10 if indoors or its dark out. I mess with display settings a LOT
(And to be clear I'm talking about the OMAP gamma contrast setting, not the trinity contrast settings)

how do you change that?

dreamwave said:
how do you change that?
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Pretty much ANY custom kernel.
I use trickster mod app for my kernel tweaking(play store) second setting in below picture.
Values from 1-10 are accepted(5 is the same as 0...1-4 will make it look washed out, I use 4 or 3 when out in direct sunlight. 6-10 will saturate and look darker)
Lots of screen settings to try.
Cm11 stock kernel should allow for color tweaks also.
And protip: go to Galaxy Nexus Android Development section for your kernel needs. ANY kernel will work on ANY tuna variant. They are not specific to toro, toroplus, or maguro. So the most active section regarding kernels is the maguro section since you can use them on any variant.

I've got my gnexus set up mostly how I like, though I really want to know how hard it would be to re enable tablet ui on kit Kat. I kind of liked being able to at least sometimes make it look like a tablet, and at least want the freedom to do so. I heard that google removed the code, but wouldn't it be possible to just take a 4.0 or 4.1 Rom and copy the code into a kit Kat rom and compile it?

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I've got my gnexus set up mostly how I like, though I really want to know how hard it would be to re enable tablet ui on kit Kat. I kind of liked being able to at least sometimes make it look like a tablet, and at least want the freedom to do so. I heard that google removed the code, but wouldn't it be possible to just take a 4.0 or 4.1 Rom and copy the code into a kit Kat rom and compile it?
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You might want to look into Paranoid Android (other ROMs also have similar options)
They have tablet-like setups and dual-pane options.
They used to have the ability to set these options Per App also, though it has been a while since I've used these ROMs or those options.

What is the best kernel in your opinion? Which one has the best battery life, performance, or ui speed?

dreamwave said:
What is the best kernel in your opinion? Which one has the best battery life, performance, or ui speed?
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I have been very fond of DirtyV by @bsmitty83 lately. The constant tinkering by him and @osm0sis has given such a beautiful result(and I would be remiss if I didn't mention that it has seemed to turn into a nice community driven kernel, with all devs pooling together and being very helpful to each other). And Os's work with the Synapse control support has been awesome.(I haven't personally used Synapse control application yet, but will be very soon. I usually use Trickster, but with all the work done to give large amount of control availability through synapse in this kernel I wouldn't feel right if I at LEAST didn't give her a shot lol!)
Personally I use the Smitty builds of that kernel. There are a couple versions, all are the "same" EXCEPT that smittyV builds do not have the RAM reclaimed from some system things. The others will give more ram available to user, the amount depends on which version you choose(details are in the OP)
Don't be afraid to try em all. See which suits you and your usage best.
Same goes for any of the other kernels available. Askp, hybridremix, and more. I have used pretty much every kernel available. I can't say that ANY are bad at ALL. We have solid developers. Don't be afraid to try em all lol.
In regards to battery life, I've personally never seen any huge gain or loss based on only changing kernel. It is just how it is with the Gnex
For performance, again, they all perform great. Some have different levels you are able to over clock to, or use slight different frequency tables. But NONE of them should degrade performance on your device. Unless it has a bug of course.
But even THEN the stability of all the kernels is STELLAR imho.
So personally right now I am using SmittyV, I WAS using build from 4/12. But @metalspring hooked up a little build for me/us to play around with that has higher IVA freqs enabled(I believe is based on the SmittyV 5/3 build.... by the way, most kernel builds are referred to by the users with their build-date, to make it easier for debugging purposes and clarity amongst everyone when posting about their experience just FYI )
And everything is running beautifully of course.
Another highly praised kernel is Franco kernel. As well as Faux. Franco just put out an update recently as well.
If you ever plan to go back to an older version of android(like 4.2, 4.1) a couple of my Favs would be GlaDos kernel(I believe can only be found on the Rootzwiki.com forums), AK, trinity, and Lean Kernel for SURE(as well as Franco and faux again lol) I'm not sure if Lean kernel has been updated to work on 4.4 or not.
Oh and Tiny Kernel is damn solid as well.
And my fav/best might not necessarily be the same for you. Its honestly a personal preference thing now since we have such crazy solid amazing developers here on this device. They are all fairly consistent. Gone are the days(IMHO) of one kernel reigning supreme due to other devs being less experienced, since many of our devs share their works closely and are constantly popping in each others threads to help directly when needed. We don't see much (if ANY) bashing from one dev to another or anything like that.
Wow, I'm rambling and didn't really give you a "good answer" lol.
Personal opinion::: Start with DirtyV. Don't be afraid to OC/tweak the living crap outta it(or just run it stock if u prefer). Then make a backup(you can backup just the kernel with app like trickster! Or just backup 'boot" in a nandroid) and give another a whirl.
And ABOVE ALL ELSE: HAVE FUN! I got addicted to kernel flashing and tweaking when I came to the Galaxy Nexus from the DroidX2 which we couldn't change kernel versions on. I just LOVE being able to change everything about how the device runs. And learning what each advanced setting does(like all the governor controls and timings, scheduler tweaks, sysctl tweaks, anything!). And I STILL don't know exactly what they all do. But I ain't afraid to change it and find out lmao. Cuz the gnex is so easy to bring back to life (as you've found out already)
EDIT:::; how Did I forget to mention Fancy kernel as well?!? Sorry boype! This is ANOTHER great one available to us!!
As always, if you have any specific questions about a kernel or something, just shout it out
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dreamwave said:
What is the best kernel in your opinion? Which one has the best battery life, performance, or ui speed?
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Also, in reply to earlier post asking about tablet mode and such, check out what this guy says recently,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52376505
And then peruse through that thread (which is a newer one) to checkout what others thoughts are on different kernels being used. (And ROMs, but they are also talking kernels there too) it might give you a better idea as far as different choices.
And remember, you can grab your kernels from the "Galaxy Nexus Android Development" section, that is where the most active kernels development threads are since kernel will work on ANY variant exactly the same

I really want a kernel that uses the absolute minimum of battery when there is no activity or just mild activity but that is able to handle extreme overclocking (I'm talking in the 1200mhz to at most 1400mhz range) without crashing or anything. I don't need something that has never been recorded to crash, just something that won't "lay a reboot egg" when I step up the pressure, without it being so power hungry that I can't get through a school day with it on and still be able to play coc on the bus. P.S. this si such a change from the G1 where I still don't think they have an active kernel dev...flashing a kernel was just something that came with a few custom roms, not really something that was really done on its own.

ashclepdia said:
I have been very fond of DirtyV by @bsmitty83 lately. The constant tinkering by him and @osm0sis has given such a beautiful result(and I would be remiss if I didn't mention that it has seemed to turn into a nice community driven kernel, with all devs pooling together and being very helpful to each other). And Os's work with the Synapse control support has been awesome.(I haven't personally used Synapse control application yet, but will be very soon. I usually use Trickster, but with all the work done to give large amount of control availability through synapse in this kernel I wouldn't feel right if I at LEAST didn't give her a shot lol!)
Personally I use the Smitty builds of that kernel. There are a couple versions, all are the "same" EXCEPT that smittyV builds do not have the RAM reclaimed from some system things. The others will give more ram available to user, the amount depends on which version you choose(details are in the OP)
Don't be afraid to try em all. See which suits you and your usage best.
Same goes for any of the other kernels available. Askp, hybridremix, and more. I have used pretty much every kernel available. I can't say that ANY are bad at ALL. We have solid developers. Don't be afraid to try em all lol.
In regards to battery life, I've personally never seen any huge gain or loss based on only changing kernel. It is just how it is with the Gnex
For performance, again, they all perform great. Some have different levels you are able to over clock to, or use slight different frequency tables. But NONE of them should degrade performance on your device. Unless it has a bug of course.
But even THEN the stability of all the kernels is STELLAR imho.
So personally right now I am using SmittyV, I WAS using build from 4/12. But @metalspring hooked up a little build for me/us to play around with that has higher IVA freqs enabled(I believe is based on the SmittyV 5/3 build.... by the way, most kernel builds are referred to by the users with their build-date, to make it easier for debugging purposes and clarity amongst everyone when posting about their experience just FYI )
And everything is running beautifully of course.
Another highly praised kernel is Franco kernel. As well as Faux. Franco just put out an update recently as well.
If you ever plan to go back to an older version of android(like 4.2, 4.1) a couple of my Favs would be GlaDos kernel(I believe can only be found on the Rootzwiki.com forums), AK, trinity, and Lean Kernel for SURE(as well as Franco and faux again lol) I'm not sure if Lean kernel has been updated to work on 4.4 or not.
Oh and Tiny Kernel is damn solid as well.
And my fav/best might not necessarily be the same for you. Its honestly a personal preference thing now since we have such crazy solid amazing developers here on this device. They are all fairly consistent. Gone are the days(IMHO) of one kernel reigning supreme due to other devs being less experienced, since many of our devs share their works closely and are constantly popping in each others threads to help directly when needed. We don't see much (if ANY) bashing from one dev to another or anything like that.
Wow, I'm rambling and didn't really give you a "good answer" lol.
Personal opinion::: Start with DirtyV. Don't be afraid to OC/tweak the living crap outta it(or just run it stock if u prefer). Then make a backup(you can backup just the kernel with app like trickster! Or just backup 'boot" in a nandroid) and give another a whirl.
And ABOVE ALL ELSE: HAVE FUN! I got addicted to kernel flashing and tweaking when I came to the Galaxy Nexus from the DroidX2 which we couldn't change kernel versions on. I just LOVE being able to change everything about how the device runs. And learning what each advanced setting does(like all the governor controls and timings, scheduler tweaks, sysctl tweaks, anything!). And I STILL don't know exactly what they all do. But I ain't afraid to change it and find out lmao. Cuz the gnex is so easy to bring back to life (as you've found out already)
EDIT:::; how Did I forget to mention Fancy kernel as well?!? Sorry boype! This is ANOTHER great one available to us!!
As always, if you have any specific questions about a kernel or something, just shout it out
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Also, in reply to earlier post asking about tablet mode and such, check out what this guy says recently,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52376505
And then peruse through that thread (which is a newer one) to checkout what others thoughts are on different kernels being used. (And ROMs, but they are also talking kernels there too) it might give you a better idea as far as different choices.
And remember, you can grab your kernels from the "Galaxy Nexus Android Development" section, that is where the most active kernels development threads are since kernel will work on ANY variant exactly the same
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