Hey Guys,
I've been trying out many roms in the last time and I've noticed that on every Gingerbread rom, the battery drain is much higher than on Froyo roms. That's weird, because I constantly hear of people's battery life getting better after switching to Gingerbread.
On Froyo, the standby consumption is at 5 mA. On Gingerbread it's 75 mA. On Froyo, I can surf the internet for 10 minutes and nothing changes, on Gingerbread the battery would lose 5%. With regular use, when the phone is full in the morning, it's almost every day empty 8 hours later.
I just want to have a Gingerbread Wildfire with decent battery life. I tried many roms, and even on CM7, battery life is horrible. Even on a clean install without any apps. What is going on there? Is it maybe the radio? Or the kernel? Do you experience similar drain?
Maybe CPU?
I dont know if this will help but Gingerbread roms often have overclock settings, have you used the overclock feature because this would most definatly reduce your battery life but otherwise im not too sure but i must say i was using Oxygen (Gingerbread) on my wildfire and the battery life was very bad compared to stock ruu roms, sorry if i didnt help :S
Any idea? Im about to upgrade to the gingerbread.
Bwfclew07 said:
I dont know if this will help but Gingerbread roms often have overclock settings, have you used the overclock feature because this would most definatly reduce your battery life
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I know about that, but I don't overclocked my Wildfire. Just because the battery drain is heavy enough on regular CPU speed.
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Any idea? Im about to upgrade to the gingerbread.
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Just upgrade and see yourself, I heard about many Wildfire users with Gingerbread who got better battery performance than on Froyo. Unfortunately, I ain't one of these
After a new flash it's usual to have battery drain. After a few charges it will buff out.
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underclocking ur cpu is a propable way to go. actually using conservative governor in cpu settings, may help your battery efficiency. but before doing this, search for a thread concerning this matter. u can always give it a shot and see for yourself, decide later if you want to keep gingerbread or not.
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My girlfriend has a defy and it'd like to put a custom rom on it.
But I know from experience that they often have a lot of bugs.
What's the best rom that doesn't sacrifice any usability?
Oh, and her gps is absolutely awful, it can't lock onto any satellites.
Swifted from my Atrix.
CyanogenMod7 would definitely have to be the best for performance, the phone becomes much more snappy, and responsive. As far as battery is concerned, I'd say it's going to be the same with any ROM seeing as they all have an absolute ton of processes. You can use SetVSel to change the battery consumption. Definitely CM7 though.
What about the bugs?
Swifted from my Atrix.
i've been using cm7 beta 6 since it came out, and i can tell you, there are only minor bugs, nothing to worry about, the phone is absolutely usable, and very fast. the only thing i'm having problems with is the camera, but afaik that's just me, noone else is having it. try it, if it doesn't work out, you could still try froyo (i recommend 3.4.3-11), that's not bad either
I have been on CM7 for a good week now, and haven't really noticed any bugs to be honest. It's a very solid rom.
Any thoughts on her gps issue?
Also, she really likes the look of MIUI, any thoughts on it?
Swifted from my Atrix.
Cm7 comes with a baseband switcher, so it could potentially fix the GPS issues, not sure about that one though.
MIUI, I have zero experience with it, all I know is that it looks like the iPhone.
GoldenStateTy said:
Cm7 comes with a baseband switcher, so it could potentially fix the GPS issues, not sure about that one though.
MIUI, I have zero experience with it, all I know is that it looks like the iPhone.
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Why would u want to make your Android phone look like iphone?
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i have never used miui either, but i've read somewhere that it's development is based on cm7 by quarx, so it probably has more bugs than cm7. not sure though.
+1 for CM7, both performance and stability. I would recommend using the boot menu overclock and vsel settings in 2nd init. I have always had issues with setvsel, but this has been flawless.
I couldn't recommend miui, even in the htc desire , which has had over 8mths to stabilize, it is still full of bugs. My wife has that phone now with cm7 and it is rock solid.
Barebones 1.51 is quick and stable too, but I would wait until Fritolays does a cm7 mod, cm7 is just too good.
from my experiënce, roms don't realy increase or decrease batterylife. more important is weather you overclock or not.
always calibrate your battery, after installing a new rom, or else you're having battery drain problems in notime.
I think quark's cm7 for now is the most nice rom because it is the only 2.3.3 rom runnung perfectly @ 800 mhz. without too much bugs.
when battery is calibrated you can easily do three days while using internet sometimes or play a little game.
If you don't mind using froyo instead of gingerbread, there are tons of nice roms running perfectly fine. try adlxmod, pays, barebone etc.
i try barebones, pays, MIUI and CM7 the level of battery is similar in 4 roms, i can use intensive for 1 day and when i go to charge the phone have 20%
Tapatalk en Motorola Defy CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390&highlight=6+days
Now i use China Unicom 2.10, same results. I switched from CN 1.11 - Barebones - CN 2.10. I saw a battery draining with batebones, but i dont know if i should blame barebones or some defectiva app.
China 2.10, is very battery friendly and very stable (Fropyo 2.2.2). i'd recommend it over anything else, it have call recorder integrated in dialer, and data plan manager integrated, so you wont incur in data charges. you may need to change baseband to fit your country with basebandswitcher.
Anyway. calibrating a battery is good once every month, but contrary to belief you will not get better battery life; you will just get better readings about its charge.
Screen + Radios are the ones that drains the most power, CPU undervolt can make difference.
Imagine 2 scenarios.
1: Power user, using phone all the time. whatever you do to conserve energy, screen is gonna take 50% of total battery consumption (Tested and confirmed) Radios are the next, so wireless is better than 3g, and 2g is better than 3g. Cpu is the last, undervolt it to save some energy.
2: Users who use the phone for 1-2hours and keep it in the pocket most of the day. Here is where you are going to get the most energy savings, an undervolting and deep sleeping cpu, in china rom, wireless always on, getting notifications from gmail and social networks, will drain only 0.5% of battery per hour, that is 12% every 24 hours. All of the other roms i tried, drained 1%-2% per hour in standby, which is 24% / 48% a day
My defy is running Pay's Rom V6.0, so far so good. Battery life lasts 2 days with moderate use. The only possible bug I found is that the phone sometimes went dead when playing Fruit Ninja.
I've used 3-4 ROMs and so far CM7 is the one with best performance and battery backup. Max I got from my 2months old defy is here in the screeny:
PS: Using SetVsel([email protected],[email protected],[email protected])and I've almost disabled all those eyecandy features of CM7 such as zoom effects on drawer open/close,animate when screen off, ALL vibrations.
I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
Having good luck with Swagged Out Stock.
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A lot of people say AOSP ROMs are good on battery life cuz the sense is gone.
Try out Xplod RLS (one of my favs) test it out see how it goes for you. It's an AOSP btw.
For sense I recommend Tommytomatoes Classic v0.0.0.4 its awesome!
How long does your battery last? Are you running mobile data all day? GPS?
I can get around 20-24 hours put of my battery with real heavy usage. Around 2 days with normal use.
I keep my 3g and everything off until i need it.
HTC EVO 4G running Mikg 2.58
Don't know who your talkin too but I'll reply lol
On Classic I'm gettin roughly about 1d 19h 43m with pretty decent usage text, call, xda, browsing jus putting it to charge right now
I have always had the best success with AOSP and custom kernel.
Currently running ICSmod7 with latest tiamets. With 4g it drops fast but without I get through a full day no worries medium use. Text, fb, music during workout ect...
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Getting good battery life with MikG 2.61.
mikg rom to me is best for battery life .and very stable rom and clean so try and let us know .im running miui and battery life is pretty good but not as good as my mikg rom
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I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
sam9696 said:
I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Tommytomatoes The Classic is a solid sense rom with good battery life its fast as hell, has lots of mods and themes and is pretty sick I've been stuck on it for over a month now I've flashed other roms but always come back to the classic after a few hours
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maybe a dumb question. What is the difference between underclocking and undervolting?
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Underclocking is when you set the speed of the processor to a lower setting than the stock clocks where as undervolting is lowering the voltage needed to run it at a certain speed be it stock underclocked or overclocked. Simplest way I understand it.
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Real culprit for batt issues
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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IMPuLSe EX said:
I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
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I have been using evodeck v1.3 with the lee kernel and the rom just sips on my battery and gives me outstanding battery life with amazing speeds
lojak29 said:
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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"no one knew of" are you kidding me? Carrier IQ has been known about for at least a year now... and no, it's not responsible for any significant amount of battery drain...
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Definantly aosp in my experience. Cm7 gets my vote for battery life
Gary13579 said:
Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Gary13579 said:
Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
Sent from my Transformer TF101
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Dude you have a serious problem I honestly think you need to quit thinking people are attacking you this is the 3rd time I've seen you in a thread that I'm in and not once have I seen you post anything good or helpful I honestly think you should refrain from posting that's my opinion only cause I think your on a kid level and you really can't carry an easy conversation with someone sometimes I wonder if you even have this phone and if your trolling EVO Forum instead of the Transformer Forum.
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I'm using FPSE playing FF7 as the test.
Before installing DoomKernal I was getting a drain of about %13 per hour.
After Installing DoomKernal I am getting a 24% battery drain per hour.
I thought DoomKernel was supposed to help battery life. I even cleaned up the running processes. So they don't drain the battery in the background.
I have installing SetCpu but I haven't overclocked, I only used it to set the minimum speed lower.
I have JuiceDefender set to disable connectivity when using FPSE.
Am I doing something wrong?
try fully charging then turn off phone continue charging then boot recovery and press wipe battery stats.
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Not sure which kernal your using with 10 i get nearly as good as stock, so close i leave it, where in the past ive tried them and always gone back to stock
If its V11 i think from memory the GPU is overclocked and in his thread he does state that the effect of this on battery is unkown.
When i say as good as stock i mean at comparable set speeds.
using v11 now, no significant difference than previous one...
I use DoomKernel v10 and battery life is excellent. I use different governers based on what I am doing.
Like smartass and underclocked to 400Megs during night and 1G or 1.2G during and gaming with OnDemand.
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Tried DoomKernel v10. Went back to Advanced Stock to emulate the original conditions. No significant difference here between both kernels.
Well I don't know why then. I used the latest one available at the time.
When I tried it, I wasn't overclocking or anything. Left things as is.
I'm now using Cyanogenmod 7 with it's kernel, and I'm getting same/slightly better battery life than stock. But when I was on DoomKernel, battery life just sucked.
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Well I don't know why then. I used the latest one available at the time.
When I tried it, I wasn't overclocking or anything. Left things as is.
I'm now using Cyanogenmod 7 with it's kernel, and I'm getting same/slightly better battery life than stock. But when I was on DoomKernel, battery life just sucked.
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I'm really sorry for it, Masters... I guess there are too many variables to understand. Maybe it's a slightly different phone, maybe our modus operandi is different (i proably drain more battery than you, based on your posts).
Anyway, I hope you can find a solution, or maybe in newer versions it will be better. For now, sorry I can't help.
I'm currently on TeamNVDRU CM10 Nightly from the 1st. Battery is at 34% after 9 hrs off charge and 1hr 6min screen on time.
I have tried all underclock, undervolt, battery life tips i can find and the best i can get is about 14hrs on this rom.
I even asked HTC for the price to install the 2100mAH battery in the phone... they came back with $160 which for a 15% boost isn't worth it.
Therefore I am asking the community, which is the best rom for battery life? Sense roms and stock included.
I'm also wondering if there is an app that can collect battery life stats and post them to the web, sort of like antutu but for battery instead of 3d performance. Does such a thing exist? It would be useful for this phone.
My usage profile:
Listening to music ~45 mins each way from work
Gmail push for priority inbox
Microsoft Exchange sync once a day while on charger
Talkbox for communicating with workmates
Viber for texting/calling my girlfriend
Facebook push disabled, notifications disabled
Underclock to 1200, Undervolt -125
Thanks in advance
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I'm currently on TeamNVDRU CM10 Nightly from the 1st. Battery is at 34% after 9 hrs off charge and 1hr 6min screen on time.
I have tried all underclock, undervolt, battery life tips i can find and the best i can get is about 14hrs on this rom.
I even asked HTC for the price to install the 2100mAH battery in the phone... they came back with $160 which for a 15% boost isn't worth it.
Therefore I am asking the community, which is the best rom for battery life? Sense roms and stock included.
I'm also wondering if there is an app that can collect battery life stats and post them to the web, sort of like antutu but for battery instead of 3d performance. Does such a thing exist? It would be useful for this phone.
My usage profile:
Listening to music ~45 mins each way from work
Gmail push for priority inbox
Microsoft Exchange sync once a day while on charger
Talkbox for communicating with workmates
Viber for texting/calling my girlfriend
Facebook push disabled, notifications disabled
Underclock to 1200, Undervolt -125
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
Its well known that AOSP roms' battery is generally lower than sense roms...so if u want a proper battery life...try one of the sense roms...hasnt disappointed me...nearly same set of requirements for me and it has not failed..!! I am using AHRD which is quite good..also try ViperX roms...read a lot about it being real good..!! but havent had the time to try it out myself..!! but generally ARHD or ViperX can help u with ur usage...give them a try and try for like ~1week b4 u come to a conclusion...What i do is to wipe out battery stats when i install a new rom so that the battery is calibrated with the new rom..!!
Hope it helps..!!
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Hi,
Its well known that AOSP roms' battery is generally lower than sense roms...so if u want a proper battery life...try one of the sense roms...hasnt disappointed me...nearly same set of requirements for me and it has not failed..!! I am using AHRD which is quite good..also try ViperX roms...read a lot about it being real good..!! but havent had the time to try it out myself..!! but generally ARHD or ViperX can help u with ur usage...give them a try and try for like ~1week b4 u come to a conclusion...What i do is to wipe out battery stats when i install a new rom so that the battery is calibrated with the new rom..!!
Hope it helps..!!
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I know people still do it but wiping batt stats its pointless. It's been proven it has zero effect
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Mr_S said:
I know people still do it but wiping batt stats its pointless. It's been proven it has zero effect
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use Blade rom with no-frils app and set cpu to 860 , lasts for one and a half day with regular usage ......
Honestly ?? Stock rom got best battery life. I used Renovate and ARHD, they don't reach even a half of stock lifetime.
I am on TripNDroids releases now for a time (since 017 I guess) and I must say, the battery life is fair. I use my phone often for WhatsApp and surfing/playing around and one battery charge lasts for one day. Although I have set the screen brightness almost to the minimum.
I've tried a few ROMs, but it's the kernels that are making the difference for me, i'd try viperx with faux ultimate kernel if you want good battery life.
And do try repacking the kernel boot.img with the one from the ROM using the repacking tool on the dev section.
Guys am almost flashing 1 or 2 roms daily, till date i experinced with 7 r 8 roms..but none of them satisfied me...some ROM had problem with the basic things like camera, camcoder and other things, some other ROMs lack in battery usage...
So can someone sheds some light on this part...
As long as you're on a new stable ROM such as ICS you're battery should be fine. JB is too early to know really but it's fantastic for me. So, assuming you're now on a stable ROM (a non Sense ROM would be better too) the problem is either your battery or you. I would recommend getting a new battery if you still have the 2 year old one the phone came with, and tbh I'd recommend getting a new Ankers 1600 mAh anyway as they're fantastic, lasts me days.
Now that you're on stable ROM and have a shiny new battery, if you're battery life is still bad then the latter problem I mentioned applies, that is, you, or rather how you are using the phone.
If, like many other Vision users I see around the forums, you are overclocked to absurd speeds well over 1GHz running the performance governor then have I got news for you of course your battery life is going to be terrible. For this reason, tbh you really don't need to go over stock clock speed and if you use the Virtuous OC daemon then you can under clock significantly when the screen is off, this saves enormous amounts of battery life.
Also if you are using the phone constantly and have the screen very bright, data on all the time etc., then you've got to accept that you simply won't last more than a day between charges.
By the way I'm not going to recommend a specific ROM because as you should know "what ROM should I get" threads are not allowed, I just wanted to give you some general battery help.
Hope this helps
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As long as you're on a new stable ROM such as ICS you're battery should be fine. JB is too early to know really but it's fantastic for me. So, assuming you're now on a stable ROM (a non Sense ROM would be better too) the problem is either your battery or you. I would recommend getting a new battery if you still have the 2 year old one the phone came with, and tbh I'd recommend getting a new Ankers 1600 mAh anyway as they're fantastic, lasts me days.
Now that you're on stable ROM and have a shiny new battery, if you're battery life is still bad then the latter problem I mentioned applies, that is, you, or rather how you are using the phone.
If, like many other Vision users I see around the forums, you are overclocked to absurd speeds well over 1GHz running the performance governor then have I got news for you of course your battery life is going to be terrible. For this reason, tbh you really don't need to go over stock clock speed and if you use the Virtuous OC daemon then you can under clock significantly when the screen is off, this saves enormous amounts of battery life.
Also if you are using the phone constantly and have the screen very bright, data on all the time etc., then you've got to accept that you simply won't last more than a day between charges.
By the way I'm not going to recommend a specific ROM because as you should know "what ROM should I get" threads are not allowed, I just wanted to give you some general battery help.
Hope this helps
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Am using this ROM : [Flinny] Andromadus Test builds - CM10.1[17]
and my phone is just 40 days old... so the battery will be fine abvsly... then i wont over clock it more than 850 mhz, so it satays under stock freq. then i will be using the mobile in half brightness,, i used to hear songs nd play games lil bit... even though my battery last for jus 12-15 hrs... thats y i doubt on the ROM, but am not sure ...