My girlfriend has a defy and it'd like to put a custom rom on it.
But I know from experience that they often have a lot of bugs.
What's the best rom that doesn't sacrifice any usability?
Oh, and her gps is absolutely awful, it can't lock onto any satellites.
Swifted from my Atrix.
CyanogenMod7 would definitely have to be the best for performance, the phone becomes much more snappy, and responsive. As far as battery is concerned, I'd say it's going to be the same with any ROM seeing as they all have an absolute ton of processes. You can use SetVSel to change the battery consumption. Definitely CM7 though.
What about the bugs?
Swifted from my Atrix.
i've been using cm7 beta 6 since it came out, and i can tell you, there are only minor bugs, nothing to worry about, the phone is absolutely usable, and very fast. the only thing i'm having problems with is the camera, but afaik that's just me, noone else is having it. try it, if it doesn't work out, you could still try froyo (i recommend 3.4.3-11), that's not bad either
I have been on CM7 for a good week now, and haven't really noticed any bugs to be honest. It's a very solid rom.
Any thoughts on her gps issue?
Also, she really likes the look of MIUI, any thoughts on it?
Swifted from my Atrix.
Cm7 comes with a baseband switcher, so it could potentially fix the GPS issues, not sure about that one though.
MIUI, I have zero experience with it, all I know is that it looks like the iPhone.
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Cm7 comes with a baseband switcher, so it could potentially fix the GPS issues, not sure about that one though.
MIUI, I have zero experience with it, all I know is that it looks like the iPhone.
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Why would u want to make your Android phone look like iphone?
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i have never used miui either, but i've read somewhere that it's development is based on cm7 by quarx, so it probably has more bugs than cm7. not sure though.
+1 for CM7, both performance and stability. I would recommend using the boot menu overclock and vsel settings in 2nd init. I have always had issues with setvsel, but this has been flawless.
I couldn't recommend miui, even in the htc desire , which has had over 8mths to stabilize, it is still full of bugs. My wife has that phone now with cm7 and it is rock solid.
Barebones 1.51 is quick and stable too, but I would wait until Fritolays does a cm7 mod, cm7 is just too good.
from my experiënce, roms don't realy increase or decrease batterylife. more important is weather you overclock or not.
always calibrate your battery, after installing a new rom, or else you're having battery drain problems in notime.
I think quark's cm7 for now is the most nice rom because it is the only 2.3.3 rom runnung perfectly @ 800 mhz. without too much bugs.
when battery is calibrated you can easily do three days while using internet sometimes or play a little game.
If you don't mind using froyo instead of gingerbread, there are tons of nice roms running perfectly fine. try adlxmod, pays, barebone etc.
i try barebones, pays, MIUI and CM7 the level of battery is similar in 4 roms, i can use intensive for 1 day and when i go to charge the phone have 20%
Tapatalk en Motorola Defy CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390&highlight=6+days
Now i use China Unicom 2.10, same results. I switched from CN 1.11 - Barebones - CN 2.10. I saw a battery draining with batebones, but i dont know if i should blame barebones or some defectiva app.
China 2.10, is very battery friendly and very stable (Fropyo 2.2.2). i'd recommend it over anything else, it have call recorder integrated in dialer, and data plan manager integrated, so you wont incur in data charges. you may need to change baseband to fit your country with basebandswitcher.
Anyway. calibrating a battery is good once every month, but contrary to belief you will not get better battery life; you will just get better readings about its charge.
Screen + Radios are the ones that drains the most power, CPU undervolt can make difference.
Imagine 2 scenarios.
1: Power user, using phone all the time. whatever you do to conserve energy, screen is gonna take 50% of total battery consumption (Tested and confirmed) Radios are the next, so wireless is better than 3g, and 2g is better than 3g. Cpu is the last, undervolt it to save some energy.
2: Users who use the phone for 1-2hours and keep it in the pocket most of the day. Here is where you are going to get the most energy savings, an undervolting and deep sleeping cpu, in china rom, wireless always on, getting notifications from gmail and social networks, will drain only 0.5% of battery per hour, that is 12% every 24 hours. All of the other roms i tried, drained 1%-2% per hour in standby, which is 24% / 48% a day
My defy is running Pay's Rom V6.0, so far so good. Battery life lasts 2 days with moderate use. The only possible bug I found is that the phone sometimes went dead when playing Fruit Ninja.
I've used 3-4 ROMs and so far CM7 is the one with best performance and battery backup. Max I got from my 2months old defy is here in the screeny:
PS: Using SetVsel([email protected],[email protected],[email protected])and I've almost disabled all those eyecandy features of CM7 such as zoom effects on drawer open/close,animate when screen off, ALL vibrations.
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What is the best ROM for battery usuage?
Every sense with leedroid kernel...
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i use revolution hd 3.1 and its great for performance and battery
I will second that Revolution HD 3.1 makes such a difference to battery life, its much smoother than stock too. Tried CM7 and CoreDroid but they were both a little too battery hungry to be useful.
ROM, Kernel and Radio
I have used LeeDroid HD, Spike CM7 and Android Revolution HD. All with different kernels and radios.
I would think the battery drain has to do with both ROM, Kernel and Radio versions (and maybe more). So it's vital that all the components is compatible. Most ROM devs recommend both a radio and a kernel.
And of cause it depends on all the services and app installed after the flash
Anyway, to you question:
I use the new Spike CM7 build 19 and have great battery life now.
I had problems with no sleep mode on other ROM/Kernel before. (and yes I have tried various patches)
I'm using CM7 latest nightly with mad murdocks battery fix and the the most latest radio and I'm getting 3-5 mA battery drain while in standby (with constant 3g, mobile data and sync on). So I'd say all the roms are quite close to each other when it comes to battery drain nowadays and the battery drain isn't a main concern anymore while choosing between roms.
My friend and myself bought the phones on same day. He runs Revolution and I run LeeDroid. Looks like there is a small advantage with LeeDroid.
i'm using Spike CM7 build 19 flashed with mad-murdock's batfix build7 and my battery life is great
I recommend Android Revolution HD 3.2 for you!
I had 2-3 days of battery with ARHD3.1 all the time!
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I recommend Android Revolution HD 3.2 for you!
I had 2-3 days of battery with ARHD3.1 all the time!
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Not using the phone much huh?!
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Yes and No
I don't know what would be much...
But with texting all day, some calls I get this, but yeah, I immediatelly turn off the display after using my phone and have deactivated all unnessesary stuff
I also removed most of the sense stuff and don't use twitter or something
the only syncing things are mail (every hour) and google (once a day)
but yeah, 1-2 days are easy with this, but mostely 2+
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I don't know what would be much...
But with texting all day, some calls I get this, but yeah, I immediatelly turn off the display after using my phone and have deactivated all unnessesary stuff
I also removed most of the sense stuff and don't use twitter or something
the only syncing things are mail (every hour) and google (once a day)
but yeah, 1-2 days are easy with this, but mostely 2+
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I'm not saying that it isn't possible as you can get a week out of the device if you just let it run on standby but as soon as you switch the screen on the consumption jumps to at least around 200mA and add a little gaming, browsing etc the consumption doubles from that (not an exact figure). So what I am saying is that it's kind of false to imply that another rom has way better battery consumption if you really don't use it that much. As it has been implied in many other threads that you just can't get over a day out of the device if you actively use it. It's just maths and there is no way around it as 1230mAhs will only get you that far
It is possible to get a few days by using it as a "regular" phone, it is all really usage dependent, and therefore the times are pretty hard to compare.
I am seeing a battery improvement using Coredroid V4 over Coredroid V3.2.
Today I have given the phone light use, about 4 short phone calls, email browsing, some facebook browsing but no gaming and I am at 73% after 12 hrs from full charge.
Combination of Buzz 1.3.8.2. 1.61GHz kernel, ARHD 3.2 with sense and the recommended radio is working great for me battery- and performance-wize. Using On demand gov at 1.22 GHz with 230-460MHz screen off profile.
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I'm not saying that it isn't possible as you can get a week out of the device if you just let it run on standby but as soon as you switch the screen on the consumption jumps to at least around 200mA and add a little gaming, browsing etc the consumption doubles from that (not an exact figure). So what I am saying is that it's kind of false to imply that another rom has way better battery consumption if you really don't use it that much. As it has been implied in many other threads that you just can't get over a day out of the device if you actively use it. It's just maths and there is no way around it as 1230mAhs will only get you that far
It is possible to get a few days by using it as a "regular" phone, it is all really usage dependent, and therefore the times are pretty hard to compare.
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I did'nt say that it all depends on the ROM I use, but with my normal mobile phone lifestyle and this ROM I get those battery lifetime. It was ment as an example, because on the other hand, if I use my DHD more frequent with playing games and stuff, I don't get around the 24h with a single battery charge, but that's (like you say) ROM independet because of the big display consumption and the 1230mA battery.
I just wanted to state the ROM I use with my normal battery experience for the thread author to test out.
It all depends on the user
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I can easily reach this with stock rom...
Syncing every hour, sometimes tweeting, txting, and sometimes looking in market, just normal use.
Hi!, i'm looking for a ROM with a good battery life, because, i like to plug on 3g all day and my actual ROM in 2 hours, spends about 20% of battery that's horrible!
Thanks so much guys!
I actually have this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039257
And 44 radio.
Have you tried LeeDroid 3.0? I'm running that, I'm a heavy user and it works a treat. Plus, HTC Sense =)
The best battery-saving-rom is Redux 1.1.2. for me! Give it a try
Thanks to both, actually the LeeDroid 3.0 haven't shows spanish language 100%, so, it's a "problem" (not too important, but i'm spanish and i like have my phone in my language ) so, i'll try Redux 1.1.2 and later LeeDroid when shows spanish
Thanks!
Htc Desire
it's good and awesome man i think i must go for one.
Tbh I get 3-5mA usage on the stock sense 2.2x rom - so battery isn't bad on the stock roms. What can change is the radio/ril which determine how efficiently the phone handles mobile/wifi signals - after screen usage and wifi this is usually the biggest drain.
That said, I find it looks nice but don't need it all and prefer Redux
+1 for Redux defiently the best battery saving rom i've tried
What do people use to monitor app mA/battery usage?
I've tried battery monitor widget, and system panel; the former show's me - by monitoring every 60s - that something is pushing the battery from 3-4mA to 50, 80, even 150mA usage at seemingly random times (phone idle overnight) - any ideas of an app to shop which these spikes are?
Syspanel is ok, but doesn't show you what causes what usage when.
Battery life is also determine by what's running in the background. I'm running CM7 and I use wifi practically all day. If I don't use that then I use mobile network. My battery life can span up to 2 days or a little more if I'm careful.
Battery saving roms are ok but unless they're been heavily optimized for it, I don't see the real point.
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Best ROM I've used is Amethyst. Could easily get 2+ days of usage out of it, but the dev went to a Nexus S, so stopped development on Amethyst, unfortunately.
What ROM's are you using and what do you think has the best battery life? I love my DHD but my biggest pain with it is it's battery life, I would love to get around 15 hours of moderate-heavy use out of it, but right now I only get between 8-10 hours of it, I've tried LeeDroid, Revolution and CyanogenMod. Which custom rom do you think is best for battery life?
in my humble opinion i would say CM7... thats after a fresh flash, battery calibration, and one full charge till total discharge (sometimes i like to do it two times just to make sure the bat stats get proper readings)... Maybe its just me but i usuall get around 15-18 hours depending... I would say that i am a medium to heavy user...mainly surf the web, movies, mp3s, text, light emails and of course downloading new roms and themes to flash...
Other than cm7 i find that RCMix and revolution to be pretty decent on battery life
U can always use currency widget to determin power loss and check whats soaking up your power
I'm no expert but so far this has worked for me
i've flashed a few roms over the last few weeks and i must say that they are all pretty decent in terms of battery life. i haven't really noticed one being significantly better than the next.
i can easily kill my phone within 7-8 hours with heavy usage but i can also keep my phone going for about 30 hours with light usage and about 16 hours with moderate usage, using the same rom.
if you asked me, i think it just depends on your style of usage. perhaps this isn't the answer you're looking for but i really don't think there's one rom out there that is going to give you that edge.
If you are looking for battery, use MIUI Freshly squeezed versions...CM7 was my first ROM, I loved it but battery life was terrible.. I could hardly squeeze out 12-13 hours even on low usage..MIUI is great! I easily get 15-20 hrs plus battery on moderate usage(wifi connected most of the time, abt 30 min gaming etc)..I bet if u try u'll see the difference.....
thanks for the replies, I think you're right with how you use it. Going to try MIUI now as well
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If you are looking for battery, use MIUI Freshly squeezed versions
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but i use leedroid_hd_GB_3.0.1
Leedroid's roms always have very good battery life
Also bare in mind the radio you use has a big affect. I used the stock radio from December with Android Revolution when I first flashed it and my battery drain was extremely bad, about 15% an hour. Flashed some new radios and I get at least 18 hours before I hit 30%.
Yup radio plays a very important role.I tried 6-7 different radios before I found the right one.....
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thanks for the replies, I think you're right with how you use it. Going to try MIUI now as well
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If it is not important for you to lose HTC sense, MIUI is nice in spite of the fact that it looks like too much the firmware of the iphone
CM 7.0.0 HAS a bad battery drain but its fixed in the cyanogenmod 7.0.2... now the battery works for a long time.. 24 30 hrs moderate use..
and finally if you are interested for a better battery drain try SETCPU.apk (free for XDA MEMBERS) AND configure your proccessor for a conservative work or setdown de cpu (900 mhz for example)
under my experience with the custom roms leedroid (lastest froyo 2.2.1 with leedroid kernel 2.2.9 at 960 mhz max) was provided the best battery drain
Yup MIUI does look like iOS...That was one of the reason I didn't pay much attention to it at first.
You can always use a good launcher like ADW or Launcher Pro to replace the iOS feel...I personally am a fan of Go Launcher EX...its simple n fast n serves my purpose
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Yup MIUI does look like iOS...That was one of the reason I didn't pay much attention to it at first.
You can always use a good launcher like ADW or Launcher Pro to replace the iOS feel...I personally am a fan of Go Launcher EX...its simple n fast n serves my purpose
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ouu!good idea!!! i like miui´s performance but i don´t like his app drawer hahah
Newest Android Revolution HD + matching radio.img and MDJ's kernel v8 and good SetCPU settings makes for a REALLY fast DHD ( 1.6GHz ) and great battery life, a full day with medium to heavy usage from what I've experienced so far.
Used MIUI for the last day, really impressed, except for the iPhoneish feel as been said above. Going to try the setcpu too so I can underclock
I'm using the recommended radio too, which I always make sure I do, I rely on that for improved signal as well, the reception around my place is quite dodgy. Vodafone is Australia's equivalent of AT&T in America in terms of dodgy reception ha
My DHD is now running CyanogenMod7 2.3.5 Nightly and it drains about 1% every two hours idle. I think that's good.
Can anyone make a comparison table?
ARHD 5.2.3............almost 36 hours with regular use here.............24 hours atleast..................
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ARHD 5.2.3............almost 36 hours with regular use here.............24 hours atleast..................
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Same here, although needs quicker recharging when using WiFi intensely (after about 12 hours in my case.)
as i think android rev. 5.2.x ,, the greatest bettary life for me
and also i think in general sense 3 roms are very bad in bettary life
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Same here, although needs quicker recharging when using WiFi intensely (after about 12 hours in my case.)
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i used to get 24hours even using wifi for ARHD 5.2.3+sense 3 components.....
but now i a using some extras other than sense 3[like transparent rosie,clock....so oon]
now my battery drains fast when using wifi...like you...............................
Does anyone have any recommendations on what the ROM is the best for battery life? The rom I heard that had the best was g-lite from virtuous, but it hasn't been working out for me. I mostly text and only get max 9 hours out of it.
Afternoon,
If you look in the forum that topic has been discuss several time as to what ROM is better for battery life. You'll see several responses. It comes down to personal preference.
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Does anyone have any recommendations on what the ROM is the best for battery life? The rom I heard that had the best was g-lite from virtuous, but it hasn't been working out for me. I mostly text and only get max 9 hours out of it.
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This topic has been talked about many many times before... but i would say that virtuous g-lite has one of the best battery life out of all the roms, although it comes down to user experience
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Does anyone have any recommendations on what the ROM is the best for battery life? The rom I heard that had the best was g-lite from virtuous, but it hasn't been working out for me. I mostly text and only get max 9 hours out of it.
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has been asked 100000+ times. Its not necessarily the specific ROM, but how you use it and what features you choose to leave out in order to extend life.
No matter what ROM you use, there are probably UV and under-clocked kernels, which can help battery life. Also, doing things like turning off 3G/4G data when you're not using it, turning down brightness, and turning off GPS/BT/WiFi when not in use, reducing gmail/twitter/facebook/g+ sync, etc. etc. etc. will all help.
im having the best with bulletproof....went 2.5 days with light usage
i've tried CM7, MIUI, Virtuous Unity and Virtuous G-Lite and out of those G-Lite is the definite winner and is the one I've stuck with...
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i've tried CM7, MIUI, Virtuous Unity and Virtuous G-Lite and out of those G-Lite is the definite winner and is the one I've stuck with...
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i might have to give it another chance
definitely not MIUI ! as for me CM7.1 was the best with 2 day while MIUI is only 1 day with a lot of SMS and few data
I can usually get about a day and a half out of glite with wifi on and screen at 60% brightness. Definitely over 2 days if you turn on juice defender...
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has been asked 100000+ times. Its not necessarily the specific ROM, but how you use it and what features you choose to leave out in order to extend life.
No matter what ROM you use, there are probably UV and under-clocked kernels, which can help battery life. Also, doing things like turning off 3G/4G data when you're not using it, turning down brightness, and turning off GPS/BT/WiFi when not in use, reducing gmail/twitter/facebook/g+ sync, etc. etc. etc. will all help.
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Agree. There's so many variables, and ROM might not even be the most important factor. For instance, what radio are you using, is it RIL matched to the ROM, and is it the best radio for your local area?
People complain about Sense ROMs draining battery. But I'm on Unity (with the radio recommended in the Unity thread, also in my sig), and get over 2 days with fairly light usage.
It may not be all about the rom but i can say that I am using the stock radio that came with my G2 for all of the roms I have tried and there is a definite difference in the battery life between them. MIUI was definitely the worst for me, then unity and cm7 and the best has been glite. I haven't changed anything beyond the rom. Usage across all of them was fairly consistent.
Really unity and cm7 were pretty good. But MIUI was very noticeably worse. And glite has been noticeably better.
Whether I am right or wrong, that has been my experience.
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A bit off topic, but consider using Juice defender as an alternative. It turns off your internet while you're phone's screen is locked. For my personal uses, it would work great, but I just manually leave my internet off until I need it. I hate having less than 50% battery life at any time. ( I carry about 3 spare batteries just in case I feel the use to play PSX)
Yeah juice defender does do a pretty fantastic job of saving battery while being the least amount of intrusive as possible. That being said, even though it does turn on mobile data pretty fast upon waking up the screen, it still is a few seconds before the connection is reestablished. also, even if you have it set to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes (or whatever you set it to) it is still preventing instant updates to emails and such.
For that reason I only use juice defender when i know I am going to be away from my charger for a long while since it is only the slightest bit inconvenient. It does really cut down on battery use though.
I don't think i have used JD since i switched to glite however since as long as my battery lasts a full day (it does) then i am always able to plug my phone in before I go to sleep.
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Guys am almost flashing 1 or 2 roms daily, till date i experinced with 7 r 8 roms..but none of them satisfied me...some ROM had problem with the basic things like camera, camcoder and other things, some other ROMs lack in battery usage...
So can someone sheds some light on this part...
As long as you're on a new stable ROM such as ICS you're battery should be fine. JB is too early to know really but it's fantastic for me. So, assuming you're now on a stable ROM (a non Sense ROM would be better too) the problem is either your battery or you. I would recommend getting a new battery if you still have the 2 year old one the phone came with, and tbh I'd recommend getting a new Ankers 1600 mAh anyway as they're fantastic, lasts me days.
Now that you're on stable ROM and have a shiny new battery, if you're battery life is still bad then the latter problem I mentioned applies, that is, you, or rather how you are using the phone.
If, like many other Vision users I see around the forums, you are overclocked to absurd speeds well over 1GHz running the performance governor then have I got news for you of course your battery life is going to be terrible. For this reason, tbh you really don't need to go over stock clock speed and if you use the Virtuous OC daemon then you can under clock significantly when the screen is off, this saves enormous amounts of battery life.
Also if you are using the phone constantly and have the screen very bright, data on all the time etc., then you've got to accept that you simply won't last more than a day between charges.
By the way I'm not going to recommend a specific ROM because as you should know "what ROM should I get" threads are not allowed, I just wanted to give you some general battery help.
Hope this helps
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As long as you're on a new stable ROM such as ICS you're battery should be fine. JB is too early to know really but it's fantastic for me. So, assuming you're now on a stable ROM (a non Sense ROM would be better too) the problem is either your battery or you. I would recommend getting a new battery if you still have the 2 year old one the phone came with, and tbh I'd recommend getting a new Ankers 1600 mAh anyway as they're fantastic, lasts me days.
Now that you're on stable ROM and have a shiny new battery, if you're battery life is still bad then the latter problem I mentioned applies, that is, you, or rather how you are using the phone.
If, like many other Vision users I see around the forums, you are overclocked to absurd speeds well over 1GHz running the performance governor then have I got news for you of course your battery life is going to be terrible. For this reason, tbh you really don't need to go over stock clock speed and if you use the Virtuous OC daemon then you can under clock significantly when the screen is off, this saves enormous amounts of battery life.
Also if you are using the phone constantly and have the screen very bright, data on all the time etc., then you've got to accept that you simply won't last more than a day between charges.
By the way I'm not going to recommend a specific ROM because as you should know "what ROM should I get" threads are not allowed, I just wanted to give you some general battery help.
Hope this helps
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Am using this ROM : [Flinny] Andromadus Test builds - CM10.1[17]
and my phone is just 40 days old... so the battery will be fine abvsly... then i wont over clock it more than 850 mhz, so it satays under stock freq. then i will be using the mobile in half brightness,, i used to hear songs nd play games lil bit... even though my battery last for jus 12-15 hrs... thats y i doubt on the ROM, but am not sure ...